Hello,
Hoping to get some advice here. Currently on Sogarth Base Vanilla Rom running radio 1.58 on Rogers with the new 6GB data plan. Couldn't get the 3g and H to show up until I configured the Band settings to Auto (another tip i got from these forums). This changes the provider name to "ROGERS UMTS". At this point, I could get 3g + H downloads, although it still felt a bit slow. Unfortunately, my 7500 will no longer hold any cell calls. All outgoing fails, and incoming only lasts 1-2 minutes. These are tests throughout the city(GTA).
Wife's phone (Tytn II) is working great at 3G + H using stock rom.
The only way I can get good cell reception again is if I manually tune the Band settings to GSM & GSM (1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850). Of course, I can never get any type of speed over Edge. The provider name changes to just ROGERS, which is the same provider name that the Tytn II gets.
Anyone have any words of advice or tips that I can try? Rogers won't help because it's an unsupported phone. Data reception is not an issue because the Tytn II gets full 3G/H. I'm hoping to finally unleash the power of this phone.
I'm wondering if it makes sense to downgrade to 1.57. I never tried this version with the data plan, because I only just recently got it. Hoping some people may have some telling experiences.
Thanks in advance,
achok.
Just as an update, reflashed to 1.57 radio with no improvement.
any other athena + rogers users here?
did you try the 3G hack?
download the nice utility from this forum
it was called something super mobile hack
it lets you customize sooooo much stuff of the phone inside and out
after i enabled it, mine always gets the best stuff 3G and HDPDA speed
which was awesome
if i didn't enable it, it was always on EDGE, and very few times on 3G
HOWEVER!!!!!!
i think i know why HTC did not turn that on by default
because whenever i keep 3G & HDPDA on all the time
it drains battery real fast
is worse than using WI FI all day long
so what i do now, is to keep it on EDGE for the automated downloads from programs Weather, TomTom, Stock, push email, etc
but when i SURF THE WEB, i enable 3G, and ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM like the commercial
is a quick ON OFF thing in the COMM Manager.
and when i'm done looking up stuff on the WEB, i turn it back to EDGE mode
to save battery
Don't know why you need to turn it off, I keep H on all the time and at the end of a low-useage day I'm still in the mid-80's on my battery. Yes, if I start surfing heavily the battery goes down much faster, but not from background push/pulls.
i do surf browse de web quite a bit
lots of download, some uploads
streaming videos
and i use VNC and remote deskop quite a lot for work / home stuff, meanwhile on the road.
this phone is the best thing every.
now i can literally work from any where, and people will still think i'm in the office
as long as i have good signal that is
Best thing with the Advantage is...... OUR BATTERY LAST SOOOOO LONNNNNNNNNG compare to a LAPTOP of any size, doing the same thing
Thanks for the replies and suggestion. I'll try the 3G hack and report back.
Anyway you can report which Radio ROM you are using? I'm still believing that certain Radio ROM's are better suited for the Rogers/Fido 3G network....
...or is the Rogers/3G network just than inconsistent?
Regards,
achok.
as you can see in my siggie it's the X7510 which means it has the stock 1.58 Radio that everyone is upgrading to with the Modded ROMs
and the other thing is, im on FIDO, not Rogers.
but LOL as if that matters anymore, they are both the same company now.
just one has better billing, and Cutomer Service, than the Get Lost actitude from Rogers CS people, and always screwed up and over billed invoices every month....
Folks, just as an update:
I recently upgraded to Michy 4.0 1.2 spl (16mb version) (fantastic ROM by the way...) and stayed with Radio 1.57.
So far all looks to be good, but still need to test over the next few days.
Hopefully, this is a sign that things are finally starting to work the way it's supposed to.
Regards,
Achok
I just upgraded to AP 4.0 Platinum..Everything works fine ( I think ) except when I go to m.youtube.com to watch videos, and streaming media starts, It says "Failed to find network."
Please help!!!
Coz this is the very reason why I upgraded the rom..thinking it would solve the problem..
I'm with Rogers..
I already installed the latest FP7 plugin thingy..
HELP ME!!!!
i cant get my 3G or my HSDPA to work at all. Im using The HTC TOUCH PRO, which i imported on the ROGERS network. Ive been reading these forums and i have no clue as to what radios and rom versions are nor how to even tell what im using. WHOSE THE GENIOUS HERE...HELP ME.. This phones wack unless i get the best out of it...
Htc touch pro
if anyone can email me directly also that would be cool...
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Hiya,
Ive unlocked my O2 XDA and started using my T-Mobile sim card with it as I get a great GPRS deal with it. The problem is that with O2 it connects to GPRS straight away and have no problems with it. But with T-mobile, its all over the place, most of the time it doesnt connect and when i'm searching on the web it only displays pocket pc friendly pages or disconnects within a few minutes. Not like the O2 one, which seemed so stable. Could it be something in the settings as I set them up manually? I could do with get it up and running as it will save me loads of cash. I'd appreciate any help you can give. I'm using the WM2003 which I got from the ROM kitchen, which I lurve.
Thanks in advance.
Chris
If it makes you feel any better, my T-Mobile GPRS service sucks with both the T-Mobile ROM and WM2003. It just sucks. I am currently using the radio ROM 6.18. I do not know if 6.24 is any better.
Hi! Just to let you know that I took the plunge and upgraded my Radio stack to 6.24 on my T-Mobile device. It works much better for me! I now have "always on". Now, I'm not saying the "speed" is any faster but at least it now stays "connected" even when it is turned off.. I am using it with WM2003. I have not upgraded to the latest T-Mobile version. :lol:
So you see no improvement in the speed of downloading or connecting in the first place? Is the only improvement just the constant connection?
It connects very fast to the network but the speed is still pretty slow on most searches and downloads. Having said that, I am very happy now that it stays connected all the time (albeit, as long as I am in an area of coverage) and does not drop out when I have a call come in or the unit it self powers off the screen. I will be one of the 1st, I am sure, to buy one of the new XDA II's when available, if for no other reason than to see if WM2003 works better with that unit than with the current XDA version.
I looked forward to see how the unit works with Wi-Fi at my local coffee shop..
camarao said:
So you see no improvement in the speed of downloading or connecting in the first place? Is the only improvement just the constant connection?
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The always on connection is a big deal to me.
I usually go out with 3 connections open:
-Ezwap pointing to a yahoo wap page of market indices
-My brokage software open to my fav stocks
-PIE pointing to a news site,forum or my blog.
All these on pause mode as we pay by the Kb here.
I will refresh each of these pages as and when needed
throughout the day.
The best is calls can still come in AND your battery
will last the day. Try that with WiFi!
Only wish Xda2 will have Class A? gprs where you
can talk and surf at the same time.
This has started to happen recently. I am with AT&T Wireless in Brooklyn, NY. The phone used to carry the signal around almost the whole day and never lose it, but these days if I leave it alone for a while and come back it may say "no service" or "searching..." . If I do a soft reset it may find the signal, or if I turn wireless off and then on (which doesn't always respond, by the way -- on my phone it's called "Turn on Flight Mode". Is that what it's supposed to be called?)
I got this phone two months ago and I am extremely thrilled with it. It's a phone, pocket pc and (video!) camera in one. Sometimes it can achieve great clarity on conversations.
I wish someone can help me out though with some advice or information on upgrading the phone. I have the following questions:
1) What GSM frequencies does this phone use? Can I make it work with AT&T's 850 band? Is anyone familiar with making this phone work better with AT&T wireless?
2) What are some of the icons I see on the top, such as the G in a square? On my old phone that used to mean GPRS connection (i.e. internet/wap). I don't know how to control these things. To turn wireless off, I click a link that says "Turn on flight mode."
3) Finally, what can I do to stop losing the signal?? I tried putting manual selection of the AT&T Wireless network on, and it didn't improve things -- the phone still lost the connection. Once it had the connection thoguh, it didn't drop it -- I don't know why the connection gets lost.
Thanks a bunch for any advice and info,
Greg
Egreg,
I have similar problems. My provider uses GSM 1900 & 850.
1) It uses GSM 900/1800/1900. Unfortunately doesn't have an 850 radio; which is really bad, they should have made it a Quad Band for the price we pay for it. GSM 1900 is really terrible in buildings etc.
2) G Means the radio has negotiated GPRS availability.
3) I've gotten better results with signal locking on by following this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=7619&highlight=signal
Download the application and set it to "Search GPRS on start GPRS connection". That way it doesn't have to negotiate for GPRS unless you actually want to use it (helps to establish signal lock much better as there is less protocol overhead).
Also now, I'm using Radio Version 1.06 & 1.08 as they seem to reconnect much better than 1.14.
Hope this helps.. Mine is performing much better now, not perfect, but not as annoying.
Thanks. I'll download the GPRS tweak program. Will that alone help the situation a bit? All I need is the voice capability, I won't use GPRS, only the GSM voice -- for internet browsing I may get a WiFi SDIO card from SanDisk.
I thought that changing to some other Radio software would help, but I heard on this site that changing the OS is risky. Can you tell me what I could do to get some a better connection, perhaps guide me through installing a correct version of Radio?
I haven't had this phone for very long, so I'm unsure if I should attempt to upgrade/downgrade.
-Greg
Greg,
I think the tweak program will help things a bit.. As I mentioned I am able to get signal seemingly quicker when I have it set...
I was pretty paranoid about OS upgrades, but I've gone through about 4 versions so far. This week is the first time I ventured out to use a different radio version than what comes with the upgrade.
Try the tweak and see how things go for a while, and then make your decision to upgrade your ROM...
Hi everyone,
I'm just wondering if anyone has had experience with the H icon not showing constantly on the recent 6.5.1 builds. I still get it when downloading, so HSDPA is still working, but it no longer shows up constantly. Seems a lot like on my old Hermes, which only supported HSDPA (but not HSUPA). It may be that there are some issues at my carrier, but I just wanted to confirm that noone else has seen this before I contact them...
I'm currently using Timolol's 81 build, was on the 71 for the last few weeks, had no issues before that, though I think I had a brief period back at the start of using 71 where it was working fine...
caeci11ius said:
Hi everyone,
I'm just wondering if anyone has had experience with the H icon not showing constantly on the recent 6.5.1 builds. I still get it when downloading, so HSDPA is still working, but it no longer shows up constantly. Seems a lot like on my old Hermes, which only supported HSDPA (but not HSUPA). It may be that there are some issues at my carrier, but I just wanted to confirm that noone else has seen this before I contact them...
I'm currently using Timolol's 81 build, was on the 71 for the last few weeks, had no issues before that, though I think I had a brief period back at the start of using 71 where it was working fine...
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T-Mobile Netherlands?
TPG (Optus) Australia ;-).
Using Radio 1.14.25.05 and 1.14.25.35 (the only two that work reliably with GPS)...
do you have touch pro config or advanced config type tools installed? They can do a registry tweak that can close data connections after X minutes of inactivity. On mine with this option set (to 1 minute) i will get the H icon with signal strength (as opposed to the other H icon on the left which is always there) when a connection occurs and it downloads something, then 1 minute later it goes back to the antenna icon with signal strength (and you can see in HTC COnnection Manager that Data Connection has now been switched off).
Perhaps you have this setting/option set now? In general leaving the data connection on all the time cant be as good for battery etc, especially when the connection is re-established whenever something like activesync or your browser requests it anyway
Thanks for a good suggestion, however, sadly this is not my issue. I am still maintaining connections (on 3g) when not downloading. I did wonder if perhaps MS had tweaked the power management in new builds to drop back connection speed when not in use (Symbian does this, though it drops back all the way to GPRS) but don't think this is the case. Is there any way other than via the icon being constantly H to know HSUPA is working?
In relation to battery and the auto disconnect tweak, I used to use this but sadly it breaks simultaneous voice and data, which makes it a no-go for me (nothing worse than downloading a file and having it bomb out due to an incoming call).
I'm on ATT, and lately the only thing that's happened is H has been showing up more. I use the .25.35 radio and the newest NRG ROM and it works excellent. Hope this helps.
I believe that AT&T have recently increased their coverage significantly for HSDPA in the States...
We've had it over here in Australia over quite a large area of the country for some time now, and it was certainly working well for me before. I've just called the network, but they don't have any information about faults. I'm currently trying to deprovision and reprovision my data service, and hope that will help (I wonder if it's something to do with me at one point using unmatched RILPhone DLL and radio...if that did something funny on the network perhaps they switched something off for my phone. After I tried that, I put it to radio 1.14.25.35 (+matched RIL), which worked fine on H again, but a bit later I changed to 1.14.25.05 (+matched RIL) as I get better battery life with that one...no luck on that, but since then changing back to 1.14.25.35 (+matched RIL) doesn't bring the magic H back either :-( )...
OK, just flashed back to stock to see if that helped, and no luck. So it's not the new ROMs, and it's not anything on my phone. I guess the phone company has either detected me doing screwy things with my radio and switched off my HSUPA for some reason, or more likely, have screwed something up or switched it off in my city for some reason.
All i've got to say about that is BUGGER!
Back to my nice new 23081 w/1.14.25.05 radio then...
Hi caeci11ius,
I'm on virginmobile(Optus) as well. I noticed the same behavior with various new WM 6.5 roms (I'm on latest Exquisite now), but an old EnergyROM build I had which used WM 6.5 21016 build was on H almost all the time.
I think Windows Mobile by default automatically drops down to 3G access from HSDPA to save on battery-life when the device is not utilizing high amount of mobile internet. I noticed I can easily get back on HSDPA (even for just a few seconds) if I do something like browse the internet or even just update the weather and I can also sustain HSDPA with problems.
I think what you are experiencing is a feature. I haven't noticed any problem with the behavior, in fact I think it works better for me, it uses less battery.
Steve
Wondering if you can help me.
In my office my colleuge and I have an hd2 on UK o2 pay monthly. Untill about a month a go we were getting HSPDA internet access. Now we are only getting EDGE. I contacted o2 and they stated that the area is a very high coverage area and we should be getting HSPDA.
What makes matters more interesting is two other colleuges in my department in the same building, one has an iphone 3 and the other has an iphone 4, both guys are on uk 02 pay monthly and are getting full 3g access. I am getting 3g and hspda in other areas.
Does anybody know why we are getting edge instead of at least 3g?
thanks.
I had a very simillar issue, so perhaps the solution I found will work for you. A co-worker of mine bought an HD2 (immediately after seeing mine). In many areas at work the reception was terrible. I also noticed that at home, when I first had the phone I got 3G often, but after a few weeks I was suddenly stuck on the EDGE network (If I got any reception at all). Since messing around with the Android port I was forced to flash a new Radio ROM and it seems that was my problem all along. At home I now get constant full bars HSPDA. At work I get reception in places that I never did before. My coworker (still using stock radio) is having the same reception issues I used to have.
So my advice is try a few different radios and see if that helps.
Faelok said:
I had a very simillar issue, so perhaps the solution I found will work for you. A co-worker of mine bought an HD2 (immediately after seeing mine). In many areas at work the reception was terrible. I also noticed that at home, when I first had the phone I got 3G often, but after a few weeks I was suddenly stuck on the EDGE network (If I got any reception at all). Since messing around with the Android port I was forced to flash a new Radio ROM and it seems that was my problem all along. At home I now get constant full bars HSPDA. At work I get reception in places that I never did before. My coworker (still using stock radio) is having the same reception issues I used to have.
So my advice is try a few different radios and see if that helps.
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Yea we did try that the other night thinking it might be a radio issue we went from 2.5 up to 2.12. What rom / radio did you use if you dont mind me asking?
Does anybody else have any ideas? This is happening with two ok uk hd2's in the office! My colleuge and I have tried multiple rom and radio upgrades but nothing is working but my other colleuge on iphone can get 3g sitting beside me
ive had this issue too, never knew how to fix it :/
AGHHHHHHHHHHHH Going to call o2 tomorrow and tell them I want to swap for a new phone, I am not getting the service I should be!!!
Ive tried just about everything I can think of. Ive tried updating the ROM, Radio, rilphone.dll - also tried going back to stock rom, yet my colleuge sits on his iphone right beside me on 3g its madness!
have you tryed puting your phone into flight mode then .ack on again let thephone pick the strongest hsdpa mast signal up. welcome to tbd way o2 works lol we get it all the time in york and leeds
That is a very interesting idea. I will try and report back thanks man!
I am really getting no ware with this. Phoned O2 and they tested phone in my network said that I should be ok I should have full hspda access, my colleuge is sitting on iphone with ull 3g and has a o2 dongle which has hspda access. I am getting fulll signal strength, changed the sim card and tried multiple radio and dll file combos and this is driving me nuts. Any help would be appreciated.
I have been doing some further testing and found something interesting. When I am at home and can connect to HSPDA. I went into the base band and changed it to WMCDA got full access. I then changed it to GSM band and got Edge. I then went into work to test it and tried to force it to WMDCDA but it wouldn't even connect at all no coverage.
I tried it back on GSM and full coverage but only edge support. Any ideas?
I have a HD2 bought last winter from an online retailer. I signed up with T-Mobile and it works pretty good.
BUT the internet speed is very slow. My visual voice mail also was not working and I dont remember where I got the CAB file for that.
They told me they cannot supply a Visual Voice Mail CAB file or APP. They also said that since my phone doesnt support the 1700-2100 3G frequencies, thats why I cant use the web while talking, and why my speed is slow.
Finally, my phoen itself has been slow and using batteries faster. I would like to flash a new ROM, but I cant seem to choose one.
So.... any advice for these issue would be appreciated. I would like to get my phone running fast again.
It sounds like the HD2 you have is not the T-Mobile USA version. That is the only one that supports 1700-2100 3G.
yea no matter what you flash, you wont get any 3g/hsdpa. Edge and gprs only.
my phone is not a tmou phone. i bought it from expansys when they first came out.
I guess it cant do 3g, but i would like to get a "better" rom, something a little faster. not totally stripped, i like many of the built-ins but just something faster. can anyone recommend a ROM i could try out?
also, some HD2's have 1g rom and mine has 512. do the 1g phones have w7 on them? is there any roms cooked with w7?
i might get the tmou HD2 if 3g is truly faster
the 1g version is the tmous. It is a different phone than all the rest (but only very slightly)