I am a bit frustrated so I have to ask this question to you guys what is the difference between the two phones?HTC touch dual or NEON I read that neon has a wifi and touch dual has none but when you surf in the net and type HTC neon usually htc touch dual will appear? so that is frustrating for me are they the same? read it is not ... can someone here please try to answer this query? please for me/ us specially for those who are new here in the forum to be enlighten
Thanks for reading this
From what country are you?
Neon is for US or GSM 800 Networks
Niki is for Europa or GSM 900 Networks
Otherwise...little difference
The keyboards are different too. The primary US TouchDual aka NEON 300 has the 20 key compact qwerty. The whole wifi thing is research, and has not been hacked as of yet. The phones are different enough that you should not flash a ROM from one to the other, but beyond that, they look somewhat similar. Not to mention, both phones are stuck in ONE THREAD!!! Which sucks, considering the Vogue and the Elf have seperate threads.....
Got it here in Singapore ... so do you think it is a HTC dual or NEON?
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Got it here in Singapore ... so do you think it is a HTC dual or NEON?
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Take out the battery and look on back. Should tell you. At least my neon does.
mandaryn said:
The keyboards are different too. The primary US TouchDual aka NEON 300 has the 20 key compact qwerty. The whole wifi thing is research, and has not been hacked as of yet. The phones are different enough that you should not flash a ROM from one to the other, but beyond that, they look somewhat similar. Not to mention, both phones are stuck in ONE THREAD!!! Which sucks, considering the Vogue and the Elf have seperate threads.....
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I agree 100% about having a SEPARATE THREAD for NEON and the Nike. It is too much different to be together and it is very confusing.
I know this is a old thread but it will be ask more and more because the NEON is coming fast and new.
I have a brand new Touch Dual NEON400 with a 526 MHz Diamond MSM7501A processor. This is a mix between a Touch Vogue and a Diamond. So it has nothing to do with Nike and the NEON has no SIM like the Nike.
So far I'm more confused then anything here and I do not dare change anything in case I blow out my cellular phone
I know i have a dual neon400 and cant find anything for it i need an original English rom
i have a touch dual neon200 and i only can hardspl the device i cant find where i can unlock my device..all threads and servers works with niki100 not neon200..i have my device for paperweight
i even try with servers like tornado or imei check ..nothing i only get hardspl of the great member of olipro who gave us hardspl i bet he can unlock it..so if u read tihs msge pleasee help me!!
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i have a touch dual neon200 and i only can hardspl the device i cant find where i can unlock my device..all threads and servers works with niki100 not neon200..i have my device for paperweight
i even try with servers like tornado or imei check ..nothing i only get hardspl of the great member of olipro who gave us hardspl i bet he can unlock it..so if u read tihs msge pleasee help me!!
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Any luck with your paperweight?
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So i finaly got a hold of wm6cb.rar. Tried the romupgrade tool and kept getting country id error. So i draged the NFK file to the country id patched loader. I put the enterbl.exe on my 8525, launch it. i get my red blue and green screen says tytn on it and some other stuff. so i launch the nonid rom update tool. It idenifies the new rom
Device rom: "Nothing stated"
Device radi: "Nothing stated"
device Ext:"Nothing stated"
To
Device rom :2.00????
it brings me to the loading stage with the install 0%
then stays there for 10 mins and then i get an error
112 ce rom update error
Please somone help me i know somone has to knwo what this is or how to fix it
THanks in advance
That WM6 is compiled for TiOmap 850, though they are both arm based I do not believe it will work on the samsung system.
damn that sucks thanks for the info man i appreciate it
it will work with 8125 or no
wrong device
This is for wizard devices, won't work on your hermes!
and if i read correctly there is now hermes wm6 rom floating around
just universal and wizard.
xspeed9190 said:
and if i read correctly there is now hermes wm6 rom floating around
just universal and wizard.
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I think you meant NO not "now" it makes a big different for us.
SDinsider posted pics of crossbow running on a TyTN. They're in the Crossbow thread.
I can confirm crossbow is compiled for the hermes as I saw it running on an 8525 at a recent microsoft launch event. it will probably never be available for us though since I saw that the hermes successor is already announced with the main difference being that its gps antenna has been connected.
Hey, that's marketing for ya. The hermes has the chips, but the next gen lets them work, progress.
Well I love my hermes, best PPC/phone I've had yet, but I'd shell out more money in a heartbeat for the next gen with integrated GPS and crossbow.
You said that it's announced? What's it called and where can I read about it??
Thanks for any direction!
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You said that it's announced? What's it called and where can I read about it??
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I think he means the HTC Kaiser.
Cheers
Daniel
Or maybe HTC Titan ( not TyTN )...
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Or maybe HTC Titan
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The Titan is the successor to the Apache.
it´s alive
GUys, every week I have a business meeting with the Windows Mobile BG @ BMicrosoft Brazil, and every time I still keep asking for the Hermes WM6 ROM, because there is one for sure and I don´t care if it will be official released form Htc, just keep on trying, we can do better customizations here at xda dev.
Sorry, I repeat myself because I see a Sticky post saying "NO GPS - anntena missing". I've also read a few contradicting posts so I want to make clear:
HTC Touch Dual (nike) HAS gps receiver.
It is enabled on my “Bell” ROM (Canada).
I used the Diamond test software and I can see about 10 satellites. (Nadavi_HTC_GPS_TOOL.cab)
I have also installed Google maps and Garmin Mobile XT and both work like a charm.
I don't think there is a register/settings you can change to enable it on your phone. I think you need a new ROM.
On the WIFI side, I strongly believe it has WIFI but we may need a new ROM to enable it.
Dump your rom and share!!!!
Do you have an 528 MHz CPU? If yes, you have a Neon400 that comes with built-in GPS! And that's why you can't give us Niki-Users a GPS-enabled ROM!
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The canada Released Neon400 has GPS thats been confirmed alot already confirm you have the Neon400 and theres nothing special here
htc are sure churning out lots of different versions of the nike/neon
This sounds realy good!
Need a Dump from SPL and OS. After that, i make NV-Item and RAM Dump. Then i can Compare and found this settings.
Please talk with me tomorow via ICQ or MSN!
Hi, I have no longer followed this thread as I found out I have a Neon and not a Nike.
I'll dump the Rom, SPL, OS and anythink that can be dumped if you tell me how.
The Neon400 isn't the same like Neon100/200/300 because the Neon400 based on another Chipset! This chipset is the Qualcomm MSM7201A (like the Diamond) instead of the Qualcomm MSM7200 and this chipsets doens't have a built-in GPS antenna so dumping your ROM isn't really helpfull for other HTC Neon users!
Sad but true, even for us Niki users!
Anime ... CPU doesnt interessting me ... i need a Full Ram Dump, then i can enable it. I think, GSM is present in Niki and Neon to. Possible Antenna isnt present. I need some NV-Items etc ... i will talk with Thread Starter NOW to found a solution!!!!
Aaahh, I didn't know it! I need to learn a lot more about HTC devices!
It seems HTC is always good for an surprise
Hope Netrunner will find the needed Files. With GPS the Niki is a dream for me
Thread Starter doesnt answer hehehe
Not much to answer. I don't know how to dump the ROM and I've asked before. If you can teach me I'll post the file. Mabe somone can enable the Wifi for Neon, at least.
Yes i will teach you all we need BUT please talk with me over ICQ, MSN, MAIL, Skype ... what ever!
We need a lot steps and its to complex to post only via this Thread!!!!
Some steps doesnt brick your phone, but it doesnt start the OS, after reset. Some steps need a lot of time. Full Ram Dump ~ 2 hours!
I just ordered HTC Touch Dual from bell canada
set to arrive in mail in few days, does this mean im getting the Neon400? want to be 100% sure.
and if so, should i be looking at roms made for the HTC Diamond instead of nike roms?
PLEASE STICKY THIS!
The purpose of this thread is to consolidate all software, roms, and information on the HTC Touch Dual Neon400.
The Neon400 was released as the CDMA version of the Touch Dual in Canada to Bell and Telus exclusively thus far. At this point in time this exact model is ONLY available in canada to Telus Mobility and Bell Mobility clients.
The Neon400 sports some MAJOR changes to previous Neons and the Niki. Inside it actually has more in common with the HTC Touch Diamond than a traditional Touch Dual (Nike). The specs are as follows:
Qualcomm MSM7501A 528mhz Processor (Same as Diamond)
ROM-capacity: 256 MiB (Same as traditional Nikes)
RAM-capacity: 160 MiB (Higher than Nike, Lower than Diamond)
Full GPS Capability
Same GPU / Graphics capability as Diamond (Altho no 3d interface software provided)
Rumored to have Wifi (neither provider has the drivers/wifi enabled if that is the case).
Both Telus and Bell ship the phone with WM 6.1 Pro as an OS.
Because of the limited availablity of the Neon400, and the vastly different specs, and the fact that it has only been available since Sept. 2008. There is next to none (I have yet to find any) software or rom flashes/upgrades available.
This thread serves as a place for the few of us who have Neon400's to test out new ideas, share modding experiences, give, and receive advice.
Few of my questions right off the top:
Will the previously established methods for unlocking Nike's work for this model? (anyone yet tested?)
Are there any TESTED and COMPATIBLE Roms that work on the Neon400 thus far?
Is anyone currently working on the above projects?
Thank you and Welcome Neon400 users! Lets take advantage of the extra horse power in our HTC Nike's and get things rolling!
instead of neon400, how about all neons? i have the neon300, all pretty much the same (of what you can install on it)
I just got my Neon400 a couple weeks back.
Hopefully we can get some ROM's going for this....the battery life is killin' me!
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I just got my Neon400 a couple weeks back.
Hopefully we can get some ROM's going for this....the battery life is killin' me!
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They already have roms for the Neon
I'm trying to post more in these forums to show support for this phone. The other Neon ROMs may work for this phone, but nobody knows because we can't unlock the damn thing.
Is there any info on how to develop HardSPLs for phones?
i two just bought a Telus Neon400 and i found that yes it is vary buggy like when i finish a call it like freezes for a bit then its fine
it lags alot eats up mad batterie life i just want to be able to unlock it and install anew rom something that has far less bugs in it ,we need more sopport
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I'm trying to post more in these forums to show support for this phone. The other Neon ROMs may work for this phone, but nobody knows because we can't unlock the damn thing.
Is there any info on how to develop HardSPLs for phones?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377260
Always use the top search option to find answers : ) Very easy. This is for the Neon
Unfortunately this method doesn't work for the Neon 400. I should know, I tried. The screen turns black and you need the reset the phone.
So,no, the top search option doesn't work here.
yep i bid we should set upsomething like payment for someone who makes a hacked spl for this phone im willing to pay im sick of the bugs i really liked the touch so much sopport but for this one nothing there has to be someone out there that casn do this
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yep i bid we should set upsomething like payment for someone who makes a hacked spl for this phone im willing to pay im sick of the bugs i really liked the touch so much sopport but for this one nothing there has to be someone out there that casn do this
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You would think it would have to be somebody who has access to the phone. Since nobody else but Canadians can use it, I don't think there's much hope that any of the regular SPL writers would be able to do it.
I hope I'm wrong though. I've tried to PM Olipro asking for help, but to no avail.
We're seeking into this issue. If anyone got an original (shipped) rom for neon400, let me know.
Cya,
Viper BJK
I was able to extract the .raw files from my Telus "Neon", using the Kaiser tutorials, if this helps? I didn't know what to do beyond that...
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We're seeking into this issue. If anyone got an original (shipped) rom for neon400, let me know.
Cya,
Viper BJK
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I'm unsure if one exists. At least, I can't find one on any of the sites (bell.ca, telus.com, pdcphones.com, htc.come etc). I also heard from the Telus salesman that the phone is being discontinued. That's bad for updates. I don't know about Bell.
need HARDspl
if there is one its for the jap version of the neon400 dont know what good that would do
and as for updates htc site would have them if telus would not right it only makes sence
is there a way to extract the rom off my phone ?
neon 400's are also available in Gsm quad band not just cdma.
Ive spent weeks researching my neon400, and the options I have with it, and I have discovered that there are no options! Or so it may seem.
I've tried to hardspl it a few times now, no luck, the sspl-nike does not work with it.
I want to know if anyone out there with a neon400 specifically has managed to hardspl thier device, and furthermore if they have managed to get any custom rom to work.
The neon400 actually has more in common with the diamond than any other niki or neon, it has a different processor chipset than any other touch dual variant, its CDMA not GSM and does not use a sim card. The chipset it uses is identicle to that of the HTC Diamond.
I think we're out of luck - the Neon400 is only sold in Canada, so people like you and me are SOL in terms of getting a new ROM.
It is similar to the Diamond, but not exactly, so the Diamond stuff doesn't work with it.
If somebody could instruct me or find some sort of hardspl developer's guide...I'd love to give it a shot.
I would even extract any info from the phone to assist some other developer. Right now, the current ROM eats up ridiculous amounts of memory...we need custom stuff!
Lucas
Wow, this is rough, I have the Telus version, and I don't know how everyone else's phone behaves, but this thing's stock ROM is light years behind my previous Apache with custom ROM. It takes it close to 7 seconds to hang up a bloody call!! That's uncalled for
My girlfriend has the Telus version, she is who I'm trying to hack it for.
Her's is all right, and only that. It's def sluggish and needs a lot of the stupid crap removed.
I think this version also has GPS, which needs to be unlocked I believe.
the gps is already unlocked I have a Telus Neon 400 and it works great, mine also is solid in terms of speed and does not take 7 seconds to hang up a call. major issue for me is well i want WM6.5 so lets get cracking people what do we need to do to get a rom cooking.
-For Neon Hardspl-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377260
Someone should probably sticky the thread and call it "NEON HARDSPL"
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-For Neon Hardspl-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377260
Someone should probably sticky the thread and call it "NEON HARDSPL"
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Doesn't work with Telus NEON400...
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Doesn't work with Telus NEON400...
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Did you follow the steps correctly? Reason why I ask is because I've talked to owners of a telus neon and I believe they used this process. This is the only neon hardspl I know of
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Did you follow the steps correctly? Reason why I ask is because I've talked to owners of a telus neon and I believe they used this process. This is the only neon hardspl I know of
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I would welcome them explaining how they did it. Please have them post if you can.
yes id like to know to i am no newbee to flashing roms
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Doesn't work with Telus NEON400...
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doesnt work with Bell neon400 as well.
bump......
Hello,
I've got a Bell CDMA HTC touch Dual with French WM 6.1 on it.
I'd like to flash something better on it, & in english. WM 6.5 maybe? or at least 6.1 in english.
P.S. No I will not use the search function. If there's no instructions on how to do this in less than 3 threads combined, I will throw the phone in the garbage.
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I will throw the phone in the garbage.
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You can always send it to me , haha no just kidding buddy, just take a look at the stickies in the forum and they will guide you what to do, if you want better help just tell me which Neon you have, 100, 200, 300, 400.
Just let me know and I'll gonna try to help you.
Greetz,
Hi,
thanks for you reply.
I don't even know how to tell which version I have...
yes it is true to say Rataplan !! than you're wasting your device into the trash, you'd better give it to someone who needs it more! not so Rataplan ..? you can see it in device information