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Sorry chaps, bit of a newb with the phone flashing, although experienced in general PC/I.T hardware etc... so usually get to grips with things techy...
Read the posts on HardSPL, but doesnt really explain what it is, what it does, or how it stops your phone getting bricked..the only thing I do understand that it is a MUST if you want to flash your rom. Which incidently I have successfully done twice now!! ALthough I know the enclosed quote mentions some of its features, I dont even know what SPL is..!! doh!!!
So its on my phone (Orange's M3100 flavour)...!! Now I assume this will let me quite happily swap roms to my hearts content...? Would this also include the hopefully forthcomming official Tytn/Hermes WM6 rom??
Now with regards to unlocking the phone for any network provider, this is where the SuperCID comes in?? Have I not read that having having HardSPL-2.10 enables SuperCID...??
CURRENT FEATURES
-SuperCID ????
-no file signing required
-no password required to authenticate with bootloader
-bad NAND can be recovered with "task 2a"
-bad NAND can be recovered by flashing an OS
-SPL protected from all HTC retail SPLs being flashed by accident (to bypass, use SSPL)
-IPL protected from all flashes; protection against bogus NBH's
-bad NAND can again be checked for with "info 8"
-version displays 2.10.Olipro
-no longer tries to read bad NAND - should fix whitescreen issue
ChangeLog
Hard-SPL-2.10
-based on a newer SPL base; bugfixes.
-IPL flashing disabled to prevent bogus NBHs bricking your device.
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When flashing roms, am I supposed to check the "Is it hard-SPL" and the "SPL-2.02/2.10 New Bootloader" in all instances???
ANy guidance would be great, jus tso I understand what Im doing, rahter than just doing it, albeit with success up to now!!
Thanks!!
DocSoton said:
Sorry chaps, bit of a newb with the phone flashing, although experienced in general PC/I.T hardware etc... so usually get to grips with things techy...
Read the posts on HardSPL, but doesnt really explain what it is, what it does, or how it stops your phone getting bricked..the only thing I do understand that it is a MUST if you want to flash your rom. Which incidently I have successfully done twice now!! ALthough I know the enclosed quote mentions some of its features, I dont even know what SPL is..!! doh!!!
So its on my phone (Orange's M3100 flavour)...!! Now I assume this will let me quite happily swap roms to my hearts content...? Would this also include the hopefully forthcomming official Tytn/Hermes WM6 rom??
Now with regards to unlocking the phone for any network provider, this is where the SuperCID comes in?? Have I not read that having having HardSPL-2.10 enables SuperCID...??
When flashing roms, am I supposed to check the "Is it hard-SPL" and the "SPL-2.02/2.10 New Bootloader" in all instances???
ANy guidance would be great, jus tso I understand what Im doing, rahter than just doing it, albeit with success up to now!!
Thanks!!
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Read HERE
Upgrading & cooking:
Upgrading for beginners: first time flashing a ROM?
Upgrading FAQs: read this before asking questions!
Available Original Shipped ROM Versions
Available Extracted Radio Upgrade Only
Available Extended ROM Versions
How to Unlock and Unhide Extended ROM
Available Cooked WM5 and WM6 ROM versions
Hermes Upgrading Guide
MrVanx Hermes upgrade guides
ROM cooking and Bootloader 1.01 MFG
Hermes HardSPL project
Custom RUU Updater
Hermes ROM kitchen
What I did was Flash HardSPLv7 for hermes.. then I flash pof's Free CID/SIM unlocker for hermes... and my phone is superCID and can't be bricked unless I'm an absolute moron.
Thanks Binyo.. Id not stumbled across many of them pages... great help!!!
hi all,
i've just bought a t-mobile vario 2
i;ve read the wiki & a few of the posts regarding upgrading
but to be honest it has so much information & sometimes the information is contradictory.. so it gets confusing
i've been using the uni for a year now
my point is
i want 2 upgrade my hermes 2 wm6
my boot screen says
herm300
IPL-1.01
SPL 1.40.Olipro
i can use a different/other sim card than t-mobile
how do i chek if my hermes is CID unlocked
and what radio i'm using & what's my bootloader number??
i try 2 read the splash screen after soft reset but the radio version goes away pretty fast
do i run POF's unlocker v3a? is it safe to run again, even if my phone is cid unlocked?
in order 2 upgrade 2 wm6
do i need to install olipros hard spl 2.10? and then run customruu?
this is what i mean by confusing?
i've upgraded my magician, uni & wizard
however they all had pretty easy/self explanatory directions?
i'm sorry for sounding like a noob, but its new territory....
thanx in advance
Is there a specific reason you want to CID the device? T-Mobile's data plan s pretty great so I have never seen the need to use another sim in my vario. You dont need to CID unlock to upgrade the rom.
As long as you have installed Olipro's spl to protect against bricking your phone it should be fairly safe to install a wm6 rom. If not, definitely install the current version of hard spl.
Once you have installed SPL, you then run the RUU.exe file that usually comes with the rom. Tha majority will have a tick box on the first page that says auto detect, which will check which version of spl you have installed and then run itself accordingly. It is best to have the current hardspl installed though.
Most of them dont touch your extended rom and only replace the OS rom contents. T-Mob's wm5 extended rom customizations wont work with wm6 anyway so you will need to go looking here for a cab file called (I Believe) tmobileukfixed.cab.
You will also need to look for newer versions of your pocket pc software as some older ones dont play nice with WM6.
Good luck, and if in doubt, read MrVanx's upgrade guide here: http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
chrisjasper said:
Is there a specific reason you want to CID the device? T-Mobile's data plan s pretty great so I have never seen the need to use another sim in my vario. You dont need to CID unlock to upgrade the rom.
As long as you have installed Olipro's spl to protect against bricking your phone it should be fairly safe to install a wm6 rom. If not, definitely install the current version of hard spl.
Once you have installed SPL, you then run the RUU.exe file that usually comes with the rom. Tha majority will have a tick box on the first page that says auto detect, which will check which version of spl you have installed and then run itself accordingly. It is best to have the current hardspl installed though.
Most of them dont touch your extended rom and only replace the OS rom contents. T-Mob's wm5 extended rom customizations wont work with wm6 anyway so you will need to go looking here for a cab file called (I Believe) tmobileukfixed.cab.
You will also need to look for newer versions of your pocket pc software as some older ones dont play nice with WM6.
Good luck, and if in doubt, read MrVanx's upgrade guide here: http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
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i dont live in the uK
so the tmobile plan is not the usp
i need to unlock the extende rom as i like 2 install most of my progs on the extended rom and also my ringtones as the sd card takes a cople of seconds b4 it kicks in..
check the wiki under Bootloader information.
Using mtty, there is a command to check CID status.
todd_jg said:
check the wiki under Bootloader information.
Using mtty, there is a command to check CID status.
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hi
i've managed 2 find out that my phones supercid
however i cant get mtty 2 work
i put the phone in bootloader
then i conect the phone via usb
when i rum mtty
it says usb port cannot open
i tried mtty 1.42 as well.....
I have been reading all across the forums how to CID unlock, upgrade etc. However, I am not able to find the ways to do seeminly essential homework before trying to upgrade. These for me are:-
* Finding a way to completely backup all the stuff from original tytn. Like ROM, SPL, IPL, Radio, CIDlock etc. I feel that this is important as if ever I feel like going to the tried old one I should be able to and to preserve the warranty also. Also, the method to roll back if needed. This should be covering re CID locking the phone etc.
It makes sense to create a way to bring the phone to its completlely original shape if we need it
Thanks
Alber
alber786 said:
I have been reading all across the forums how to CID unlock, upgrade etc. However, I am not able to find the ways to do seeminly essential homework before trying to upgrade. These for me are:-
* Finding a way to completely backup all the stuff from original tytn. Like ROM, SPL, IPL, Radio, CIDlock etc. I feel that this is important as if ever I feel like going to the tried old one I should be able to and to preserve the warranty also. Also, the method to roll back if needed. This should be covering re CID locking the phone etc.
It makes sense to create a way to bring the phone to its completlely original shape if we need it
Thanks
Alber
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You do not need to back up your spl, ipl, etc. because if you need to roll back you can just reflash them on, and they can be found around here and in the wiki.
You cannot un-CIDunlock, but if you use hardspl v7 it will "trick" your phone into thinking it is (when in reality it isnt) so that you do not have to actually unlock it. If you ever need to send it in you can just flash the old spl over it.
mcorrie1121 said:
You do not need to back up your spl, ipl, etc. because if you need to roll back you can just reflash them on, and they can be found around here and in the wiki.
You cannot un-CIDunlock, but if you use hardspl v7 it will "trick" your phone into thinking it is (when in reality it isnt) so that you do not have to actually unlock it. If you ever need to send it in you can just flash the old spl over it.
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So you mean that hardspl doesnt CID unlock it? But isnt there really a way to extract the original components and then put them back again ?
thanks
Alber
alber786 said:
So you mean that hardspl doesnt CID unlock it? But isnt there really a way to extract the original components and then put them back again ?
thanks
Alber
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HardSPL does not CID unlock. pof's Free Unlocker (a sticky thread) does the SIM and CID unlocking. HardSPL is a new set of bootloaders allowing upgrade utilities to access and read/write to the phone. The most important aspect of this (besides bypassing the CID check) is the security - it has some overwrite protection built in to prevent you from accidentally corrupting the bootloader area, rendering your phone a brick. HardSPL is a safety measure.
If you check THE WIKI here on xda for the Hermes, you will find some stuff on extracting. It is most probable that it will be FAR easier to find new versions of everything you have, rather than trying to back up and restore. The wiki contains MANY shipped ROMs to allow you to restore back to basically the original condition. LOOK HERE for MW5 shipped ROMs and LOOK HERE for WM6 shipped ROMs.
todd_jg said:
HardSPL does not CID unlock. pof's Free Unlocker (a sticky thread) does the SIM and CID unlocking. HardSPL is a new set of bootloaders allowing upgrade utilities to access and read/write to the phone. The most important aspect of this (besides bypassing the CID check) is the security - it has some overwrite protection built in to prevent you from accidentally corrupting the bootloader area, rendering your phone a brick. HardSPL is a safety measure.
If you check THE WIKI here on xda for the Hermes, you will find some stuff on extracting. It is most probable that it will be FAR easier to find new versions of everything you have, rather than trying to back up and restore. The wiki contains MANY shipped ROMs to allow you to restore back to basically the original condition. LOOK HERE for MW5 shipped ROMs and LOOK HERE for WM6 shipped ROMs.
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what about the radio upgrade
the htc108 thing
its confusing
on pof's sticky it says to downgrade the radio if u have the htc 108..
but on the radio upgrade sticky, it says u can upgrade any phone[hermes] using custom ruu..
todd_jg said:
HardSPL does not CID unlock. pof's Free Unlocker (a sticky thread) does the SIM and CID unlocking. HardSPL is a new set of bootloaders allowing upgrade utilities to access and read/write to the phone. The most important aspect of this (besides bypassing the CID check) is the security - it has some overwrite protection built in to prevent you from accidentally corrupting the bootloader area, rendering your phone a brick. HardSPL is a safety measure.
If you check THE WIKI here on xda for the Hermes, you will find some stuff on extracting. It is most probable that it will be FAR easier to find new versions of everything you have, rather than trying to back up and restore. The wiki contains MANY shipped ROMs to allow you to restore back to basically the original condition. LOOK HERE for MW5 shipped ROMs and LOOK HERE for WM6 shipped ROMs.
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Thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate the time you spent in expaining this to me and providing these links.
I was wondering if HARDSPL is like shelltool where it will only allow upgrade or flashing of OS part. So, once I use the HARDSPL and flash say HTC official WM6 release or Dopod WM6, will I be ableto to get the bundled radio and SPL and IPL upgrades from these ROMS? and if yes then will HARDSPL get replaced by these SPLs and IPLs built into the ROMS? One more thing, will an upgrade like that can brick the phone as if I rum the official ROM it will try to upgrade the SPL and IPL (I am not sure).
What is the preferred way of upgrading ? unlocking CID by the tool or HARDSPL ?
I have read somewhere that lockwiz tool used for Wizard can save CID also and some tool and put it back also but I dont know how and if the same tool can do it for hermes?
Regards,
Alber
alber786 said:
Thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate the time you spent in expaining this to me and providing these links.
I was wondering if HARDSPL is like shelltool where it will only allow upgrade or flashing of OS part. So, once I use the HARDSPL and flash say HTC official WM6 release or Dopod WM6, will I be ableto to get the bundled radio and SPL and IPL upgrades from these ROMS? and if yes then will HARDSPL get replaced by these SPLs and IPLs built into the ROMS? One more thing, will an upgrade like that can brick the phone as if I rum the official ROM it will try to upgrade the SPL and IPL (I am not sure).
What is the preferred way of upgrading ? unlocking CID by the tool or HARDSPL ?
I have read somewhere that lockwiz tool used for Wizard can save CID also and some tool and put it back also but I dont know how and if the same tool can do it for hermes?
Regards,
Alber
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Most cooked roms are os only, but a few have a radio, etc. included. If its os only, flashing will only change the os. You can separately flash radio.
Hardspl is the best because its reversible. Well thats not the best word to describe it....id say because its not permanent. But u know what i mean
alber786 said:
Thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate the time you spent in expaining this to me and providing these links.
I was wondering if HARDSPL is like shelltool where it will only allow upgrade or flashing of OS part. So, once I use the HARDSPL and flash say HTC official WM6 release or Dopod WM6, will I be ableto to get the bundled radio and SPL and IPL upgrades from these ROMS? and if yes then will HARDSPL get replaced by these SPLs and IPLs built into the ROMS? One more thing, will an upgrade like that can brick the phone as if I rum the official ROM it will try to upgrade the SPL and IPL (I am not sure).
What is the preferred way of upgrading ? unlocking CID by the tool or HARDSPL ?
I have read somewhere that lockwiz tool used for Wizard can save CID also and some tool and put it back also but I dont know how and if the same tool can do it for hermes?
Regards,
Alber
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Mcorrie1121 is right. I will add a couple of things.
1. HardSPL is not *necessary* for flashing anything, it only makes it safer and allows you to flash ROMs with CIDs that do not match your device without CID unlocking. Your ROM is basically a few parts - OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, ExtROM, MainSplash and SubSplash. The HardSPL will replace the SPL only. Most non-carrier ROM releases are OS only. Most carrier ROMs (as you pointed out) have ALL of these things. As Mcorrie1121 pointed out, you can easily find a radio - check the wiki, search, etc.
2. Once you have upgraded to a cooked ROM (and HardSPL), you will still be able to upgrade to a Shipped Official ROM. You may need to "unpack" it and use the CustomRUU instead of the shipped updater. That is OK though.
3. HardSPL will not allow overwriting of the IPL/SPL except by another HardSPL (see mrvanx.org downgrade guides). You will not have a problem. It will keep your bootloader zone safe.
4. I don't think there is a preferred way. Some people unlock CID, others do not. There is no reason to *not* unlock it, unless you plan to send it back - and I have never heard of someone getting service rejected for this reason. Wring ROM, yes. CID unlocked, no. That said, maybe try without CID unlocking first and then if you find you need to do it for some reason, then do it. You really do not have to do it, since the Custom Updater bypasses the CID check anyway.
5. Regarding the 0108 Radio BL issue, don't worry much about that - it is an old problem. Just don't go below whatever version you have now.
todd_jg said:
Mcorrie1121 is right. I will add a couple of things.
1. HardSPL is not *necessary* for flashing anything, it only makes it safer and allows you to flash ROMs with CIDs that do not match your device without CID unlocking. Your ROM is basically a few parts - OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, ExtROM, MainSplash and SubSplash. The HardSPL will replace the SPL only. Most non-carrier ROM releases are OS only. Most carrier ROMs (as you pointed out) have ALL of these things. As Mcorrie1121 pointed out, you can easily find a radio - check the wiki, search, etc.
2. Once you have upgraded to a cooked ROM (and HardSPL), you will still be able to upgrade to a Shipped Official ROM. You may need to "unpack" it and use the CustomRUU instead of the shipped updater. That is OK though.
3. HardSPL will not allow overwriting of the IPL/SPL except by another HardSPL (see mrvanx.org downgrade guides). You will not have a problem. It will keep your bootloader zone safe.
4. I don't think there is a preferred way. Some people unlock CID, others do not. There is no reason to *not* unlock it, unless you plan to send it back - and I have never heard of someone getting service rejected for this reason. Wring ROM, yes. CID unlocked, no. That said, maybe try without CID unlocking first and then if you find you need to do it for some reason, then do it. You really do not have to do it, since the Custom Updater bypasses the CID check anyway.
5. Regarding the 0108 Radio BL issue, don't worry much about that - it is an old problem. Just don't go below whatever version you have now.
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Thanks, I appreciate your help. Please tell me if I can put back WM5 back on it after upgrading.
Regards,
Alber
todd_jg said:
Mcorrie1121 is right. I will add a couple of things.
1. HardSPL is not *necessary* for flashing anything, it only makes it safer and allows you to flash ROMs with CIDs that do not match your device without CID unlocking. Your ROM is basically a few parts - OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, ExtROM, MainSplash and SubSplash. The HardSPL will replace the SPL only. Most non-carrier ROM releases are OS only. Most carrier ROMs (as you pointed out) have ALL of these things. As Mcorrie1121 pointed out, you can easily find a radio - check the wiki, search, etc.
2. Once you have upgraded to a cooked ROM (and HardSPL), you will still be able to upgrade to a Shipped Official ROM. You may need to "unpack" it and use the CustomRUU instead of the shipped updater. That is OK though.
3. HardSPL will not allow overwriting of the IPL/SPL except by another HardSPL (see mrvanx.org downgrade guides). You will not have a problem. It will keep your bootloader zone safe.
4. I don't think there is a preferred way. Some people unlock CID, others do not. There is no reason to *not* unlock it, unless you plan to send it back - and I have never heard of someone getting service rejected for this reason. Wring ROM, yes. CID unlocked, no. That said, maybe try without CID unlocking first and then if you find you need to do it for some reason, then do it. You really do not have to do it, since the Custom Updater bypasses the CID check anyway.
5. Regarding the 0108 Radio BL issue, don't worry much about that - it is an old problem. Just don't go below whatever version you have now.
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Dear, please help me with one thing-I am terribly confused about the procedure to upgrade my JASJAM to WM6. I understand that one way is to CIS unlock it and install on it the official and dopod releases of WM6. I wanted to know how can I do the same using the HARDspl. I know that I can install the HARDSPL but after that what ??? Can I then run the offcial RUU from HTC or Dopod or I am supposed to do it some other way as I am afraid that it may contain the SPL and IPL and can break by phone OR I have to use some customRUU (I dont know) OR I am supposed to extract the OS from these official releases (I dont know how) OR ..
Can you please clear these confusion??
I have:-
* I-Mate JASJAM, CID locked i suppose as when I run official HTC or dopod it says this update utility is not for this
*I really wanted to save my devices complete state and a way to revert it to the way it was like SPL, IPL, OS, Radio, CID lock etc.
PLS pls help
Regards,
Alber
alber786 said:
Dear, please help me with one thing-I am terribly confused about the procedure to upgrade my JASJAM to WM6. I understand that one way is to CIS unlock it and install on it the official and dopod releases of WM6. I wanted to know how can I do the same using the HARDspl. I know that I can install the HARDSPL but after that what ??? Can I then run the offcial RUU from HTC or Dopod or I am supposed to do it some other way as I am afraid that it may contain the SPL and IPL and can break by phone OR I have to use some customRUU (I dont know) OR I am supposed to extract the OS from these official releases (I dont know how) OR ..
Can you please clear these confusion??
I have:-
* I-Mate JASJAM, CID locked i suppose as when I run official HTC or dopod it says this update utility is not for this
*I really wanted to save my devices complete state and a way to revert it to the way it was like SPL, IPL, OS, Radio, CID lock etc.
PLS pls help
Regards,
Alber
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CLICK THIS LINK
There are upgrade guides there and guides to put it back the way it was (OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, MainSplash and SubSplash) - it is all covered.
The upgrade guides will get you through the upgrade process. The only thing you need to do after that to use an official upgrade is to unrar (using winrar or something) the executable file and take the nbh and us it with the CustomRUU, which can be found HERE .
Hi there,
I'm looking to upgrade my stock (and unlocked) x7501 to WM6.1. First up i'd like to say that I *have* read the forums, and I *have* read lots of threads about upgrading. Unfortunately it seems I still don't understand what the entire process is.
Firstly, what is SPL? I could not discover what this acronym means. Thus, how do I determine my SPL version, and does this have anything to do with the fact that my phone is factory unlocked or not? Apparently the first step is to run something like Hard-SPL unlocker but my phone is unlocked - I don't want to do something unnecessary or brick the phone.
It seems unfortunate that other users asking similar questions to me got flamed for not reading or 'not reading enough' but i can say that unless i missed a crucial reading thread (i have read all the stickys) then it certainly isnt very clear what the process is.
Any help much appreciated.
hi
a little help on the acronyms from the wiki page:
CID lock (aka vendor lock): puts on your device by the manufacturer to prevent installation of a ROM not released by them.
HardSPL: This modified bootloader allows a much safer flashing process to take place since it reduces the chance of permenently bricking your device. It also removes the need to CID Unlock the device since it ALWAYS reports SuperCID when flashing. See the official thread for more info.
Hard Reset: Similar to a soft reset, by performing a hard reset you completely wipe your device and restore it to the position it was in when you first turned the device on after it was purchased or after a new ROM is flashed.
Radio: The radio stack is responsible for the phone functionality of the device. This includes GPRS, GSM, UMTS, and GPS operations as well as camera functionality. The version you use depends on who your carrier is as users have reported versions working better on one carrier than the other. The wiki pages contain the latest versions available to download and install.
ROM: The ROM holds the Operating system and other components such as the bluetooth and wifi stacks. The ROM is accompanied by the Radio, Ext_ROM, SPL and IPL. Carriers such as T-mobile or Vodaphone taylor the ROM to their specifications and version numbers do not carry the same meaning across different carriers. IF the carrier you use supports the device well they will usually release regular ROM updates.
RUU - ROM Upgrade Utility: It’s the s/w used on your PC to do a ROM upgrade for your PPC;
IPL - Initial Program Loader: It’s the bootloader for PPC. It boots up SPL;
SPL - Secondary Program Loader: Loads the actual OS;
WWE: World Wide English Edition;
SSPL: SSPL is a modified bootloader which is loaded into RAM when run, this allows us to overwrite any aspect of the ROM, Radio or Bootloader far easier than using mtty.
I agree
I have noticed a lot of members with only a few posts asking questions and making fundamental mistakes and I usually say "read the wiki and do a search " but I did just that and there are a confusing array of answers.
I wil try to do an idiots guide later and post it here unless someone with more time does it first
Thanks robson/lakeman, that actually helps a lot.
So... We want to put a new SPL on the system, so that the IPL loads the new SPL (HardSPL), which gets around CID locking to allow you to flash the ROM via an RUU?
Also, would like to add that there are two types of rom's.
Rom's for SPL1.2 and rom's for SPL3.5
If it is the first time I would suggest you first, to load SPL1.2 rom's
This way you can go back to original rom's very easy.
Rom's made to SPL3.5 gives more freedom to rom cookers, but once you are on SPL3.5 you cannot go back to original rom's unless you first revert to SPL1.2 first.
The process to revert from SPL1.2 to SPL3.5 and viceversa can be very tricky and can give you a lot of headackes.
You will need to read a lot and be aware of posible problems ( and resolutions ).
Welcome to this wonderfull world
re: spl and upgrading roms
putting aside my previous post, that's probably as far as i can go in terms of the techie stuff =)
my story: i was actually content with my original, untouched u1000 rom. then something happened with my bluetooth (all sounds kept on being streaming even without the bt activated)...that forced me to upgrade to ap3...probably the first rom upgrade that was made available for the u1000. i sorta felt that i had nothing to lose...if the rom upgrade couldn't fix the bt issue...then i'd get a replacement unit...
once i upgraded to ap3...and it was successful...i then tried out the rom upgrade by irus. it was fantastic...most notable was the auto-rotate feature....but apparently i was having some vga issues as i couldn't get 96dpi to work. that's when i installed michy's rom and i've been having a blast since then.
my point: i really can't answer the spl part in your original post...i kinda remember how to find the spl version....but i don't want to end up bricking or damaging your unit. there are others in the athena forum who are best qualified to answer that.....but once you get beyond this, let me know and i'd be happy to help you out in upgrading to michy's rom.
cheers
Robson, cool, your input is much appreciated. I think the first step is to find out my SPL version. I'll hunt around the forums/wiki for that, but if anyone knows off the top of their head, feel free to post.
Press all the way in the camera button and at the same time soft-reset.
Keep until it displays the famous tri-color screen. Loose buttons.
You will see something like this ( in my case ):
ATHE100
IPL-v1.00
ATHE100
SPL-v1.20.Olipro ( because I have already unlocked )
If your unit is virgin you will be SPL-v1.00 if I remember well.
regards,
Hi @ all,
after reading many and many threads here in this forum (and even others) I thought I gathered enough information for starting with update my T-Mobile MDA. The original image shows the following versions:
ROM-Version: 1.35.111.13
ROM-Date: 03/14/08
Radio-Version: 1.58.21.24
Protocol-Version: 25.65.30.04H
I saw that HTC offers an official WM6.1 build for this device and since I'm running WM6.0 with many obvious bugs (and slowlyness) I decided it can't get worst.
Fortunately I found the download-link here in this forum for the official WM6.1 Professional build in german, because HTC denies access telling me that this build can't be installed on a foreign (OEM) device. After downloading the image from the link I've found here I started the updater. But even this updater refused attempts telling me that the VendorID is wrong.
As stated before I read and read and read before trying the update - but it went wrong finally. By using uSSPL 1.16 I started the update process with the original HTC updater. Everything went fine until 15% then the updater again quotes that my device has a wrong VendorID. From that moment on I saw only the rainbowscreen telling me the following:
(Top right corner: RUUNBH)
NIKI200
SPL-1.18.0000
CPLD-4
I assume that the SPL on my device is guilty of deciding which firmware to install. Luckily I found a way of still booting my device using MTTY 1.42 and sending "boot" as command. Then it booted - but I have to do that right now every time I boot up the device - it doesn't bootup by itself :-(
Here's my first question: How can I achieve that the device boots up completely and automatically again without sending a "boot" command?
I certainly still want to upgrade to ANY better OS than the current one - it just sucks! So, here're my further questions and I know there are many, many threads here and I think that read all of them according to this, but I'm still confused:
Q: What do I need as prequisites for updating this T-Mobile branded device with the official HTC Image? I'm sure SPL 1.15 and 1.16 are "too old"(??) for dealing with this brand new release firmware, right? Maybe that was the cause why the update failed.
Q: Is it necessary to install a hardSPL before starting the update? I would prefer NOT to modify the hardSPL because if I brick the device totally, I lose warranty - I just want to prevent that! If anyone tells me here, that there's really no risk of flashing hardSPL and that this certainly will work (due to his/her own experience) then I sure would proceed. BTW: I'm a newbie to this forum here and by dealing with consumer PDAs and flashing them in general, but I'm working for a company who's manufacturing such devices for the industry in rugged environments as technical supporter/consultant therefore the basics an beyonds are clear to me - only this specific field is new.
Final question: According to my questions above, a structured list (Step-By-Step) of what is necessary to do to "convince" this T-Mobile device of loading foreign Firmware is highly appreciated!
Thanks in advance for your support!
Reingucker
If you can actually get in with the boot command from mtty you're in luck.
If you're getting the vendor ID error then you'll need to unlock the device (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395945)
You don't need to install a hard spl, once you're unlocked and booted copy over the sspl file from the spl thread to your device (the device itself and not the SD) then take out your SD and run the sspl
This will then reboot the phone to bootloader and allow the rom to be flashed without a hard spl. As the new rom comes with spl 1.22 this will be installed.
WOW - thanks very much for this fast response!!
I've read the article of the link you quoted. There it is said, that I have to flash hardSPL 1.15 before proceeding. So I guess, there's no way around of modifying the device in such a manor that it would be noticed in cases of warranty repair, right?
Cheers,
Frank
hardSPL is an advisable safeguard while flashing but you can always revert to a stock SPL afterwards if you need to.
If you went to SPL 1.22 you'd need to do that anyway if you needed to return the device as T-mobile don't have a rom with that spl yet.
Dear randomelements,
THANKS VERY MUCH for your fast response and help!
FINALLY I DID IT!!!
BUT :-D one question left:
Now I've flashed the official HTC Image with WM6.1.
Is there any way of getting the T-Mobile splash screen back onto
the device? I've found the splash-screen flasher, but do you know
where to get the T-Mobile splash-image?
Thanks again very much,
Reingucker
There are some t-mob roms around for download (links are somewhere in the forum)
Using the nbh tools the splash screens can be extracted from that and repackaged.
I'll have a look when I get home tonight.
OK, great - thanks!
In the meanwhile I'm searching around for this as well. If I'm faster I'll let you know.
Since my device is "still" on hardSPL 1.15, would you recommend to upgrade to 1.22 or is that not necessary - or, better to say, what would be the advantage resp. the disadvantage?
Cheers,
Frank
Reingucker said:
OK, great - thanks!
In the meanwhile I'm searching around for this as well. If I'm faster I'll let you know.
Since my device is "still" on hardSPL 1.15, would you recommend to upgrade to 1.22 or is that not necessary - or, better to say, what would be the advantage resp. the disadvantage?
Cheers,
Frank
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I have 1.22 for two days now an it is so fast. I think there are no disadvantages
Reingucker said:
OK, great - thanks!
In the meanwhile I'm searching around for this as well. If I'm faster I'll let you know.
Since my device is "still" on hardSPL 1.15, would you recommend to upgrade to 1.22 or is that not necessary - or, better to say, what would be the advantage resp. the disadvantage?
Cheers,
Frank
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It's usually better to have a later SPL and everyone is saying that 1.22 makes the device run smoother.
Liquid Silver has created a 1.22 HardSPL so you might like to give that a try - I've been using it without issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2778832&postcount=429
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OK guys, especially randomelements,
I'm through! I did everything I wanted to do... Time to setup the device aknew.
Thank you very, very much!!
Hope the device works more stable now.
Have a great day!
Reingucker
Grrrrr.....
Okay, one more thing....
I tried to replace the "animated.gif" in the /windows directory.
But the file is a system file and I always get an error message
that this operation isn't allowed.
How can I replace this?
Thanks in advance,
Reingucker
You can replace it with Resco Explorer or Total Commander, because these File Explorers can overwrite system files!
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OK, thanks for the hint....
I achieved it by changing the registry entry that links to the file...
However... learning that these two apps can do that helps certainly...
Thanks again and....
GOOD BYE for today!!
Cheers,
Reingucker
hardspl 1.6 or 1.22 is good?
hello mate
can you post a reply how excactly did you solve the above isue?
As i am havving the sane problem and cannot fix it.
Please help if you do remember how you solved this
rob
Reingucker said:
Hi @ all,
after reading many and many threads here in this forum (and even others) I thought I gathered enough information for starting with update my T-Mobile MDA. The original image shows the following versions:
ROM-Version: 1.35.111.13
ROM-Date: 03/14/08
Radio-Version: 1.58.21.24
Protocol-Version: 25.65.30.04H
I saw that HTC offers an official WM6.1 build for this device and since I'm running WM6.0 with many obvious bugs (and slowlyness) I decided it can't get worst.
Fortunately I found the download-link here in this forum for the official WM6.1 Professional build in german, because HTC denies access telling me that this build can't be installed on a foreign (OEM) device. After downloading the image from the link I've found here I started the updater. But even this updater refused attempts telling me that the VendorID is wrong.
As stated before I read and read and read before trying the update - but it went wrong finally. By using uSSPL 1.16 I started the update process with the original HTC updater. Everything went fine until 15% then the updater again quotes that my device has a wrong VendorID. From that moment on I saw only the rainbowscreen telling me the following:
(Top right corner: RUUNBH)
NIKI200
SPL-1.18.0000
CPLD-4
I assume that the SPL on my device is guilty of deciding which firmware to install. Luckily I found a way of still booting my device using MTTY 1.42 and sending "boot" as command. Then it booted - but I have to do that right now every time I boot up the device - it doesn't bootup by itself :-(
Here's my first question: How can I achieve that the device boots up completely and automatically again without sending a "boot" command?
I certainly still want to upgrade to ANY better OS than the current one - it just sucks! So, here're my further questions and I know there are many, many threads here and I think that read all of them according to this, but I'm still confused:
Q: What do I need as prequisites for updating this T-Mobile branded device with the official HTC Image? I'm sure SPL 1.15 and 1.16 are "too old"(??) for dealing with this brand new release firmware, right? Maybe that was the cause why the update failed.
Q: Is it necessary to install a hardSPL before starting the update? I would prefer NOT to modify the hardSPL because if I brick the device totally, I lose warranty - I just want to prevent that! If anyone tells me here, that there's really no risk of flashing hardSPL and that this certainly will work (due to his/her own experience) then I sure would proceed. BTW: I'm a newbie to this forum here and by dealing with consumer PDAs and flashing them in general, but I'm working for a company who's manufacturing such devices for the industry in rugged environments as technical supporter/consultant therefore the basics an beyonds are clear to me - only this specific field is new.
Final question: According to my questions above, a structured list (Step-By-Step) of what is necessary to do to "convince" this T-Mobile device of loading foreign Firmware is highly appreciated!
Thanks in advance for your support!
Reingucker
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Click to collapse
hello mate
can you post a reply how excactly did you solve the above isue?
As i am havving the sane problem and cannot fix it.
Please help if you do remember how you solved this
rob
You wrote you need an update from WM6.0 to WM6.1,
i think you are a german user, so if you want a original WM6.1 from T-Mobile try this <<link>>
Its the T-Mobile Update to WM6.1 including the start splash screen