I am seriously frustrated here:
I have an Ameo 16 GB (T-Mobile UK) and for the 1st couple of weeks remote desktop was working fine, then suddenly it stopped working.
I thought I broke the settings somewhere, so I double-checked everything. The T-Mobile Ameo comes with the default T-Mobile Internet connection pre-configured. It actually states "This connection is pre-configured. It cannot be modified."
The default settings are programs that auto connect to the Net should connect using the default T-Mobile Internet connection, and programs that auto-connect to a private network should use "My Work Network".
"My Work Network" has no values set anywhere.
Normal Internet access is fine in either IE or Opera (branded by T-Mobile as Web'n'Walk).
I have changed so programs that auto-connect to private network use T-Mobile Internet connection, same result as before.
I have set up a custom Internet connection for "My Work Network" using "general.t-mobile.uk" as access point, "user" as username, "pass" as password and domain left blank. I can connect to the Internet with these settings, but not via Remote Desktop.
Sometimes, normally after having re-booted the Amea and manually connected to "My Work Network" (as per settings above) I can connect, but it drops the connection while I'm still typing in username and password.
Normally I get either of these error messages when trying to connect via Remote Desktop:
"Cannot connect. Likely reasons are:
1) Specified computer name or ip does not exist.
2) A network error occurred while establishing the connection"
or
"Cannot connect with current connection settings. To change your connection settings, tap Settings".
I have cleared storage memory on the Ameo five times. I have phoned T-Mobile tech support who basically told me to sod off - apparently as long as the device can browse the Net they've done their job!
I have had T-Mobile replace the device and this morning I received a brand-spanking-new Ameo. I fired it up, let it go through the customisations, and reboot, then I tried Remote Desktop without changing anything or installing anything. And I got the same as above!!!!!
Please, guys, I'm desperate! Any help is very welcome here! I do network support for a living and I got the Ameo because I can fit a server's entire screen in and have a seperate keyboard. Except now I can't use it!
I used to have a Universal, which I sold to help finance the Ameo, so I'm truly stuck!
Oh how I wish I could unlock the damn thing and flash a better ROM to it!
Just as an update, yes, I've tried using "My ISP" as well, with the same results. And yes, everything's just peachy on the servers I need to connect to - I can connect to those servers using other devices.
And no, using Logmein is NOT an option and please don't even mention any form of VNC - you have to be seriously foolish to run VNC on a server, you might as well pay for some banner ads that say "Come hack me!"
Please don't give me advice on setting up routers, or Remote Desktop on 2000 Server, Server 2003 or Server 2008. I can do those quite well.
What I cannot do is get my damn Ameo to connect and stay connected and I'm absolutely desperate for help there!
the same
my ameo on t-mobile has done same thing, stopped working about 2 weeks ago, was working fine till then, only reason i bought the damn thing (anmd yes, i too ebayed my exec, i regretting it
so anyone out there got any ideas? i have same problem using ICS so i am guessing either a network etting on the phone, or some idiot at t has closed rdp traffic (tried chanmging a port number to 80 on a test box behind my router, still no go)
What is the operating system on the target pc first off. as i had that problem with a hack fix on vista home premium
all i had to do was to re-apply the fix.
as far as remote desktop the Ameo 8gb model ( x7500) didn't have rdp on it so i used one of the ones from this forum but under another section ( i think it was networking but do s earch to find them )
needless to say mine has never stopped working
a good test is try it from your local wireless home network if it's a home pc, and if ti works then look at the forwards on your router, make sure 3398 is still forwarding to YOUR pc and that your pc still has the same IP.
if you have a static ip and no router. always check your firewall settings.
as far as other possibles if your internet is working and all other data connections then there's no reason it SHOULDN'T work as t-mobile do not filter out 3389 port.
it has to be a problem at the target machine or network in that case.
but feel free to tell us more about the target pc and how it's connected to the internet and maybe we can find a solution
also what RDP client are you using on your Ameo
Cyberjak, the target machines vary: Server 2003 Enterprise Edition running ISA Server 2006, and Server 2008.
RRAS is installed on the non-ISA servers, while ISA of course takes over where RRAS left off. In all cases ports 3389 (TC{P & UDP) is open for inbound access, and on the ISA box it is open for in and outbound access.
Had you read what I wrote in my second post you would have seen I need no help in setting up RDP. I build, support and maintain networks for a living and trust me when I say the issue is NOT with the remote servers, but with the Ameo! I can use a collegue's O2 Touch Diamond and connect to any of the servers, but not the Ameo 16 GB.
I'm using a default T-Mobile Windows Mobile 6.1 setup as my Ameo has never been unlocked or flashed, and I'm using the stock standard Remote Desktop client that came pre-loaded and that used to work.
The issue is either with the Ameo, or with T-Mobile blocking RDP.
NanoRuler said:
Oh how I wish I could unlock the damn thing and flash a better ROM to it!
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Why can't you do this? Is your phone owned by the company and they would frown if you modified it? AP4 includes Remote Desktop Mobile, so you might try that ROM if you do unlock.
My device is a 7510 and Olipro's unlocker doesn't work on it. I have been explicitly told that the unlocker might brick it
Hallelujah! The age of miracles is upon us!
I've put in a complaint to T-Mobile, and out of the blue Remote Desktop started working, while I also received an e-mail from T-Mobile's tech support.
Here's an extract from the e-mail:
"I have came across someone else with this problem and we are trying a temporary fix by adding a update to your account which is on now, so if you could retry the connection and let me know how you get on"
My translation of the message: We screwed up by choking RDP to save bandwidth across our network, you (and presumably others) caught us out, so now we'll pretend we're the good guys and that we've discovered something wrong and we'll fix it, but don't expect us to say sorry!
I will give T-Mobile a ring today and see, I guessed it would be t-mobile as I ave a whole range of different RDP servers I connect to and none worked!
lol, T-Mobile took all of about 2 minutes to enable my RDP again, told them I knew it was there prob as I read on XDA-Developers, got to love the internet nice one NanoRuler
NanoRuler said:
Hallelujah! The age of miracles is upon us!
I've put in a complaint to T-Mobile, and out of the blue Remote Desktop started working, while I also received an e-mail from T-Mobile's tech support.
Here's an extract from the e-mail:
"I have came across someone else with this problem and we are trying a temporary fix by adding a update to your account which is on now, so if you could retry the connection and let me know how you get on"
My translation of the message: We screwed up by choking RDP to save bandwidth across our network, you (and presumably others) caught us out, so now we'll pretend we're the good guys and that we've discovered something wrong and we'll fix it, but don't expect us to say sorry!
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RDP Port filtering or NAT misconfigured !
bhermer said:
lol, T-Mobile took all of about 2 minutes to enable my RDP again, told them I knew it was there prob as I read on XDA-Developers, got to love the internet nice one NanoRuler
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Just realised what T-Mobile said in their e-mail "I have came across someone else with this problem" - was that you? That WOULD be funny!
Way I look at it if we don't stick together we'll get shafted by big corporations!
Used to know a guy who had something printed on the reverse of some of his business cards. It read "Doing business with your firm is like having sex: it gives one a feeling of warm bliss.....while being screwed!"
Thanks to T-Mobile I know what that feels like! Having said that I'll also categorically state the last guy I dealt with at T-Mobile knows his stuff and was very helpful.
Curious, it does lead to believe something about the ports being like group policy's that they use as the voice over ip ports only are open for WnW Max customers usually unless you scream at them after being with them for a long time. heheh
Nano, no offence mate but i've been doing similar work for years as well but it's sometimes the simple things so you can understand me asking.
you would ask a client the same thing.
NanoRuler said:
Hallelujah! The age of miracles is upon us!
I've put in a complaint to T-Mobile, and out of the blue Remote Desktop started working, while I also received an e-mail from T-Mobile's tech support.
Here's an extract from the e-mail:
"I have came across someone else with this problem and we are trying a temporary fix by adding a update to your account which is on now, so if you could retry the connection and let me know how you get on"
My translation of the message: We screwed up by choking RDP to save bandwidth across our network, you (and presumably others) caught us out, so now we'll pretend we're the good guys and that we've discovered something wrong and we'll fix it, but don't expect us to say sorry!
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A possible solution for those of us on T-Mobile's standard web n walk
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I thought I'd post my experiences here in case anyone else (like me) searches for a solution to enabling RDP on T-Mobile (UK at least).
I was having the same problem with remote desktop, it saying that the server was not available. I phoned up T-Mobile's helpdesk as recommended here and after getting past first line support (who didn't know what remote desktop was, and tried sending new connection settings to my phone to resolve the issue) I got through to someone who knew what they were talking about. Turns out that I'm on T-Mobile's "basic" or "handset-only" web-n-walk package, and it's not possible to use RDP on this. I assume they block the relevant ports. They told me that I could pay an extra fiver a month to upgrade to a version of web-n-walk which can handle RDP.
Well I told them I would think about it, but instead tried to find a way around it as the one or two times I need to use RDP are certainly not worth a fiver a month. My solution is probably only suitable for the more techy of us, but without much work and with no prior experience I managed to set up a SSH tunnel using FreeSSHd as a server running on my windows server (although a normal windows box should work fine - http://www.freesshd.com/) and zaTunnel as a client on my phone (http://www.zatelnet.com/zatunnel/main.php). Both programs are free.
Basically my phone takes all RDP connections and tunnels them over SSH to my windows server, which then turns them back into RDP connections. T-Mobile have no idea I'm using RDP, and if they block the SSH port in the future I can always change FreeSSHd to run on port 80 (for web). This will also work for other protocols T-Mobile might be blocking (FTP springs to mind).
Just thought I'd post this in case anyone was in my situation of needing RDP on their standard web'n'walk.
Cool! Thanks for posting your rather excellent work-around! I will certainly be referring people back to your solution.
I think T-Mobile's out of order for not allowing RDP on all plans, without absolutely clearly stating that on some plans it isn't allowed.
You're the customer and you pay for some bandwidth. Short of illegal activities, what you use that bandwidth for is none of their business.
T-Mobile Grrrr
Many Thanks for this thread.
My Remote Desktop stopped working on my phone last month but co-incidently it was around the time I was re-intsalling my server and also flashing numerous roms to my phone so thought it maybe something with that.
But then realised I could remote desktop over my wireless at home and from other networks across the net so it wasn't anything to do with config on my side. Thought either phone or network.
Flashed a rom with remote desktop that i KNEW worked and still nothing...
Thought - this MUST be T-Mobile... glad I'm not the only one.
Have sent an email and hopefully they'll enable Remote Desktop on my line.
There is no way I'm gonna start paying an extra £5 a month for something I've been using for the last 20 months as part of my package and have removed wihtout any notice/warning.
i'll tell 'em where to shove their £5 extra a month
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Is it possible to sync using activesync over the internet without running an exchange server? I'd like to be able to sync my XDA while I'm out and about to my PC at home.
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been trying to do the same for ages , but never found out how to do it
It can be done, under a few conditions:
1. You need to have a static IP address for you PC
2. You need to install Pocket Hosts or a similar free utility to map the WINS host name to your PC's IP address.
3. Your carrier / ISP must not have a firewall that blocks ports 5678 or 5679 (T-mobile seems to block this)
Remote active sync was designed with a local area network in mind and it is configured to connect to you computer by using the WINS name and not using an internet based DNS name. When you connect over an internet connection from your XDA, it is not able to find you PC.
If you install a free utility such as Pocket Hosts (http://zimac.de/cestuff.htm) you can configure the Pocket PC to be able to find you PC. This utility will allow you to configure you Pocket PC to map your PC Name to an IP address (similar to the HOST file on a Windows based PC)
Before I had the unlimited GPRS plan, I created a dial up connection to an ISP on my PocketPC Phone and it works perfectly. However, when I try the same thing over the GPRS connection, it does not work. From my end, it looks like T-Mobile blocks ports 5678 or 5679 on their firewall, which are the ports that remote active sync uses to complete the connection. (It looks like it is about to work, but then fails to complete the connection)
I have tried to convince t-mobile to fix this, but they keep claiming that it will not work out of the box, they don't know how to make it work, and they won't support it. They try to "upsell" me the sidekick or other device. I can't seem to get through to the right people. It seems crazy that a setting on their end blocks us from being able to sync over the air. After all, what is the point of a data connection if you are still restricted to using a cradle to sync. I understand that they don't want to support this and walk people through setting this up, but blocking the functionality seems pointless.
Anyone tested this on ATT? With number portability starting, I may have to explore other options. Anyone have an in at T-mobile that can get them to open up these ports on the firewall?
try www.yahoo.com
get an account (if you don't have one already)
login -- click on mail
the click the tab for addresses
on the next line to the right you will see the word "sync"
this will take you to download intellisync for yahoo
then follow instructions
sync you pda and your good to go, you will have your info on the internet and sync from anywhere
one more thing if youown a palm os and a pocket pc pda and you want to have both devices with same info (contacts, mail, notes etc. etc.)
the change the settings on your intellisync for your other device and resync
hope this helps it did for me...
Hi, I'm from the Philippines and my Network is SMART Communications. I tried synching with my active sync via GPRS but it seems it can't find my PC eventhough I used Pocket Hosts utility. It seems they block the port too. Anybody from Smart to please open the gate for us.
I've setup up my Win2k PC as dial-up server. And with the help of the Pocket Hosts utility, I can now be able to sync my Outlook over the air. But the call charges is killing me.
Jose
I've been investigating this myself too - and have to say T-Mobile's attitude is also alive and well here in the UK on O2 (via crapphone-whorehouse data support team).
I was actually shouted at by one of their 'tech' guys when I tried to persuade them that it could technically be done, but I needed to find out whether they were blocking the relevant ports. He eventually hung up on me! Fantastic service, eh!
I've been trying to get ActiveSync working over the Internet for the past few days and have finally managed to get it to work reliably. There are a couple of things that I have found...
Firstly, at least one of the ports required for ActiveSync does seem to be blocked when using GPRS (Vodadone UK in my case). Setting up a normal dial-up ISP connection results in first time connections to ActiveSync every time. It would be nice to know why there is problem over GPRS.
Secondly, my device was still connecting as Guest. Whilst reading through various other forums I found a fix that seem to work for this but it involves deleting a registry key. I wouldn't recommend it as I have know idea what else this key might be used for but it certainly solved the problem for me. The key I removed is HKLM/Ident/Username value is guest. The key is replaced automatically at some point (maybe after a reset) so if it stops working, you have to go and delete it again! There must be a better way....
That's great information, thanks.
I now have my device remote synching!
Just to summarise my steps to get things working on my XDA II:
1) XDA: Set up new work connection (don't you just hate the organisation of conenctions...) to a dial-up ISP over GSM, as O2 UK also block the ports required for activesync.
2) PC: Open sockets 990, 999, 5678, 5679 on my firewall
3) XDA: Use pockethosts to set up the IP address for my PC name
4) XDA: Change HKLM\Ident\User from guest to my normal PC logon user id
5) PC: Set allow network connections in activesync
6) XDA: Manually Connect to the ISP connection
7) XDA: Open activesync and click synch - away we go!
As an update to this, I had to do a full restore at the weekend after loosing all my data on the XDAII. The problem was not related to these changes but it made me look again at the Ident key. There are two keys normally like...
HKLM/Ident/Name Value<Your chosen PDA Name>
HKLM/Ident/OrigName Value<Pocket_PC>
This time I changed only HKLM/Ident/OrigName to the same value as in HKLM/Ident/Name and it connected first time. Also, this value does not seem to be reset unless you do a hard reset on the device. This may be better than changing the Username value though I have yet to try either on another computer where my preferred connection should actually be as a Guest.
Got it working
Thanks to andyclap's suggestions I finally got it working. It looks like T-mobile does not block any ports, but without the registry hack the error I got was the same as when I tested this over a dial up connection and blocked the ports on my firewall.
The other change since my last post is that I am using WM2003 and it requires you to set up a VPN connection to the PC instead of just using PocketHosts for the name resolution.
OK. Like a lot of people, I was horrified to discover that my Mac could no longer use my Hermes' bluetooth connection (DUN) after I upgraded to AKU 3.3. Microsoft lovingly removed DUN and added PAN, which MacOS doesn't support yet (rumors are that 10.4.9 or 10.5.0 will).
So I suddenly was left without a way to connect to the 'net using my phone and my MacBook Pro.
Plugging it up USB didn't do anything -- the Mac had no idea what the phone was, and didn't know how to use it for anything.
Enter MarkSpace MissingSync. I installed the latest version (3.0.1) on my Mac, and plugged in my phone to sync it up. By chance, I ran an 'ifconfig -a' in a terminal window, and noticed this:
Code:
en2: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
ether 80:00:60:0f:e8:00
media: 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> status: active
supported media: 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex>
So MissingSync is establishing a connection using a faked IP address. OK. Interesting. So I unplug the phone, and go into the all new "Internet Sharing" app on my phone, set it to USB and turned it to connect. I plug my phone back in, and MissingSync tries to start up (and fails). But the IP (en2) is still there. I turn off my Airport (wireless) connection, make sure Bluetooth is disabled (to make sure).. and do a netstat -rn, and lo and behold, my Mac has suddenly taken on my phone as a default gateway.
Code:
Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire
default 192.168.0.1 UGSc 9 40 en2
127 127.0.0.1 UCS 0 0 lo0
And... I'm on the 'net. I didn't have to create any connections, I didn't have to add any routes manually. Nothing. It just worked. (Yeah, I'm amazed, too).
Everything works. DNS, SlingPlayer, Entourage w/ Exchange.
I'm getting around 900/kbps down, 600/kbps up on Cingular/AT&T. Of course I live about 2 miles from Cingular HQ, so that's probably to be expected..
In MissingSync, turn *off* USB syncing, and it won't throw as many errors -- just sync via Bluetooth, but the drivers are still there, so it still comes up with an IP address and pseudo-ethernet device.
MarkSpace needs to market this. Awesome. It's not as convenient as bluetooth, but it's a lot faster, and you have the added benefit of charging your phone at the same time.
oh.. and one more thing... you can still use your phone for voice phone calls (when you're on 3G), and data. It works just like your're not plugged into it. And you can use a bluetooth headset with your phone while you're connected.
edited: make sure "use advanced usb networking" is turned OFF in the Settings>Connections page on your phone.
Wow, just tried this myself on cingular as well, 150k/sec down and 90k/sec up using EDGE. Extremely easy as well, just kinda works by itself if you have MissingSync installed. Posting using my TYTN right now actually.
I'm on the medianet unlimited plan so I connect through wap.cingular. Will I get hit for any additional data charges for tethering?
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Wow, just tried this myself on cingular as well, 150k/sec down and 90k/sec up using EDGE. Extremely easy as well, just kinda works by itself if you have MissingSync installed. Posting using my TYTN right now actually.
I'm on the medianet unlimited plan so I connect through wap.cingular. Will I get hit for any additional data charges for tethering?
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Very doubtful, although I don't know for sure. My phone is set to use MediaNET, and uses wap.cingular. I have PDA Unlimited Connect. From all appearances on Cingular's billing page, a notebook hooking into your phone via this method just looks like ordinary phone data to Cingular.
Now... I wouldn't use this as a primary internet connection. I'd bet if you put several gigs through the phone, they're going to get suspicious.
I actually use around 4-5 gigs a month normally (just with ActiveSync polling for mail and normal use), and they've never said anything to me.. so.. who knows.
Unfortunately, it's so difficult to get info from Cingular/AT&T these days (I'm still trying to get my [email protected] to work)..
My billing cycle is up in 7 days -- I will post back here if I see any different charges on my bill.
If this works, I'm going to hump your leg.
wow, works. time to start humping. i love you. please, bear my children.
btw, definitely worth adding to the wiki.
I am assuming that disabling the connection in Internet Sharing restores Missing Sync's normal (supported sync) functionality? Great pick-up. I already have Missing Sync and my 8525 will be here on Wednesday. Thanks.
Damn, I can't afford Missing Sync
Oh well, I bought it anyway. I'd already played with version 2.5 so I knew it was starting to get good. I can make use of some of the other features, (like importing my cameraphone snaps into iPhoto) but this internet sharing feature is why I bought it. And it works just as you said:
1) Run "Internet Sharing" on the phone with 'PC Connection' set to USB.
2) Plug into the Mac.
In fact "Missing Sync for Windows Mobile" shows up as a network interface in System Preferences / Network, too.
This is actually a lot nicer that the old way I used to do it. Before AKU 3.3 and Missing Sync 3 I was getting Internet access on my iBook over Bluetooth using Internet Connect and a lot of faffing around with modem scripts. I eventually found one that worked.. .but I always had to 'dial' 3 times before it connected and it took about 2 minutes to get a connection.
Now I can just plug in and go ... and my phone doesn't need a separate power supply to keep me connected all day. ** very happy **
(Yes, they should really advertise this!)
i'd really like my hermes to work on my Linux box, since I use it as my main system over XP.. i read a few articles regarding this, and it turns out the older version of synce worked on most HTC devices.. but for some odd reason the new ones dont seem to.. someone did mention that WM5 devices weren't supported for now.. the older WM2003 does tho..
if it makes any difference, I'm on Ubuntu Linux 6.10 32bit version..
any help is appreciated..
mizuchi said:
i'd really like my hermes to work on my Linux box, since I use it as my main system over XP.. i read a few articles regarding this, and it turns out the older version of synce worked on most HTC devices.. but for some odd reason the new ones dont seem to.. someone did mention that WM5 devices weren't supported for now.. the older WM2003 does tho..
if it makes any difference, I'm on Ubuntu Linux 6.10 32bit version..
any help is appreciated..
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I followed the (lenghty) instructions on the synce site, and it works for me with my TyTN. I have not set up contact syncing, but I can browse/copy/run stuff from my Ubuntu 6.10 installations on my TyTN.
i'll give it another shot.. thanks for the confirmation..
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...So I unplug the phone, and go into the all new "Internet Sharing" app on my phone, set it to USB and turned it to connect. I plug my phone back in, and MissingSync tries to start up (and fails). But the IP (en2) is still there. ...
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I don't have en2 when connecting in Share mode
MDA Compact III
What version of Missing Sync are you using? It's working for me using version 3.01
It's 3.0.0 (315) and it reports as the latest.
Well that's clearly not true I suggest you download the new version from the site (I only got this a few days ago).
Upgraded to the 3.0.1 (downloaded from the site). The client on the phone upgraded as well. Still nothing. On the sync mode there is en2 connection (with orange status) in the network preferences. When I activate the sharing mode it disappears. Checked in terminal as well.
And you're *definitely* using AKU 3.3 on the phone?
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And you're *definitely* using AKU 3.3 on the phone?
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I'm sure it's 3.x but may not be 3.3. How do I check this?
So, can it use bluetooth to link up my Hermes (AKU 3.3) and connect to the internet from my macbook thru the Hermes??
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So, can it use bluetooth to link up my Hermes (AKU 3.3) and connect to the internet from my macbook thru the Hermes??
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I don't believe so, I've only tried using the "USB" setting. Besides, the phone gets power through the USB cable and more bandwidth. There is no advantage to using Bluetooth except not needing a cable!
Is it possible to use ICS with wifi connection instead of cellular connection? Would be useful for a makeshift wireless adapter if your regular NIC or wireless NIC fails.
It seems that even if I have a wifi connection already going and then I launch ICS and connect, it still tries to dial out and use the cellular connection. You would think if it can share cellular data it could share wifi data just as easily but maybe im missing something.
Back in the early days of WiFi internet sharing the private interface was changed to WiFi with a manual registry edit. It might be possible to change the public interface to USB instead of defaulting too the cellular radio. It would probably take a fair amount of troubleshooting, but I'd think it would be possible. I think the entries were at HKLM\Comm\ConnectionSharing. Might be a starting point...
Search for WMWifiRouter
WiFiRouter
WiFiRouter works by making your ppc into a virtual access point. Then you can share the internet through it.
Last time I looked however, the author had withdrawn the program from circulation at version 0.91. There must be some problems with it because the author indicated that he would release a new version once he ironed out some bugs. If it is not back in distribution yet, you might be still able to find it on a torrent site. If not, PM me and I will send you the cab. Some of the cab collections at ppcgeeks ftp have it inside too. One good collection to check is Alex's.
I have used it and it works.
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wmwifirouter is not what he's looking for. That is still using your phones internet. He wants to see how he could use the phone as a Network card, using the wifi connection, as oppossed to the sprintpcs connection.
I too would be very interested in this happening, if anyone knows of a way please tell.
ok, but why ??
Why would you actually want to do this anyway ??? I will look into it but it makes no sense when a USB WiFi dongle is $30 or so and does not run your phone down to use it, why would you want to use your phone as a very expensive USB WiFi card ??? Maybe I am missing some golden benefit ????
I dont get it either, but he did say in an emergency if your wifi went out.
Thank you for the responses.
Yes, it would be useful if your wireless nic went out (or regular nic for that matter) just to have something to use for the moment. Or maybe you brought your computer to a friends house and hes out of ports or you dont want to run 50ft cable to his kitchen table
But the titan has wireless, it has internet sharing, why doesnt the wireless show up in the list of available networks? I'm not saying its an all important feature but it would be yet another cool thing your phone could do.
i looking to use my mogul as a wifi access point (sharing Spint Vision thru wifi)
i tryed the procedure to mod the registry to enable it but i cant get it to work.
anyone know the exact procedure for the mogul
btw i also checked out WMWifiRouter...looks like it's no longer free
I also wanna know
Look the idea is simple. So where is the phone ICS telling it to use the celluar line and not allowing the option of the wifi?
Pls any one contact me. Its a cool feature for a phone
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i looking to use my mogul as a wifi access point (sharing Spint Vision thru wifi)
i tryed the procedure to mod the registry to enable it but i cant get it to work.
anyone know the exact procedure for the mogul
btw i also checked out WMWifiRouter...looks like it's no longer free
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I bought software called Walking Hotspot, which essentially turns my Mogul/Titan into something like a Mifi, sharing my cellular data with my laptop. Otherwise known as tethering.
I only use it for emergencies because I am not sure if Sprint can tell that I am tethering. I believe if Sprint detects unauthorized tethering they will charge 4 cents per kilobyte of data .. which is very harsh!
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This really really pi##es me off, as where I live I get 1x data, & usually use my home wireless (wifi).
Recieved the pro, and activated it. It seems disabled by being activated by alltel. I even stumped the blackberry adept person at the local store enough that they switched out the phone, I walked to next door (motel) used the free wireless (to prove the wireless would even function) then let him activate it and headed home (30+ miles into the wilderness). got home and again I cant get Crap wifi to work.
Home is wireless b, it connects, can be seen on the 'simple' 2 wire wireless appliance but the PRO, will not see or try to send data through it. turned off security and everything on the wireless for testing. I can check, but I know the pass for the motel, and I could try again, but am definitely sure that this AINT the issue--> again the phone wouldnt connect at the motel (least not the pre exchanged one) with me or the rep at Altel either, while it was activated and on alltel.
who to call? Any help out there?
my 6800 will still wifi, at anyplace there is a signal and that I know the passcodes or is open.
yes I asked this, at alltel-howard forums, but would think you guys here know more (on second thought, when I remembered about all the stuff you do here, I know I probably should've posted here 1st, but Im kinda mad at the moment!)
Pretty adept at computers, I do IS as my real job, anything I can do to help trouble shoot? yeah the 6800 has been flashed & I even noobed around with cooking a few time. appreciate any help you guys
i Have a touch pro and a touch diamond, both under 2 weeks old and the wifi works fine with both of them, maybe you should try a custom rom and see if they changes anything. but there is no reason it shouldnt work with the stock rom
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i Have a touch pro and a touch diamond, both under 2 weeks old and the wifi works fine with both of them, maybe you should try a custom rom and see if they changes anything. but there is no reason it shouldnt work with the stock rom
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goony,
Is it an Alltel? are you positive that wifi is working, not the "data" connection with alltel towers (cell call)? My proof is that if I goto my basment, I have no cell service so not any data connction, ONLY WIFI (that is where my wireless router is. that is when I found out the 1st time. Everything else looks right, on the phone it says it is connected, on the router I can see it on the connected devices list.
I have my issue that I believe, that it is some setting that Alltel is setting... like I said the phone would connect via wifi until the phone activated. When I activated (full unlimited data package is on this phone) the phone fully rebooted on its own, 3 times as if getting updated via data plan. Im not talking about the 1st time turn on customizations, those were done before I tested the wifi at the motel lobby... For instance, the volume control buttons - the display app were obviously modified, I am not positive what else was.
I'd LOVE to try custom rom, if I wasnt right in the period of time I can get my money back, or not. after that I will...
yes they are alltel, and to test the wifi i just connected it to my router and then turned of my alltel data and it stayed connected so i am positive the wifi works. you can still use a custom rom under your return period, if you want to return just relock it.
I wanted to double check myself sting to make sure i was realy getting wifi, so i connected and went to speedtest.net and did a speed test and sure enough it showed my isp as roadrunner(my home provider). Have you had this problem with multiple phones? are you checking the internet option when it connects? and do you have it diconnected from the pc? my wifi wont work on my diamond hooked to a pc.
Has nothing to do with alltel. Maybe with the rom or the phone. Now I hope you're not waiting for a pop up to show itself on the main screen asking if you want to connect because you could wait forever. Go to comm manager enable wifi/ go to start->settings->connections->wifi and make sure options are set to "all available." If you can even see wireless networks on the list, the wifi is functioning correctly and there is a router settings conflict. If you don't see networks on that list in wifi, then there is a rom/hardware problem.
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Has nothing to do with alltel. Maybe with the rom or the phone. Now I hope you're not waiting for a pop up to show itself on the main screen asking if you want to connect because you could wait forever. Go to comm manager enable wifi/ go to start->settings->connections->wifi and make sure options are set to "all available." If you can even see wireless networks on the list, the wifi is functioning correctly and there is a router settings conflict. If you don't see networks on that list in wifi, then there is a rom/hardware problem.
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Hey thanks!
But, it is the Stock shipped rom, I have my HTC 6800 right next to this one, connected and surfing the web, both show up when in the home WIFI router config as connected, yet the pro sends NO DATA to ie or opera, (cant locate any webpages) or any app that uses internet/data.Unless there is something I need to do with PRO that I never had to do with the 6800 (mogul) that I just flashed back to stock shipped rom, ready to sell on ebay...
what I dont know is, well, most of the people wifi to tether a laptop or something, I dont! Sure that will be neat in the future, but RIGHT NOW, Just I use WIFI when I am at home and dont even have signal or evdo near me... (remote locations that I live, the tower coverage sucks out here in ks...) Got to fix this soon, or this Beyotch is going back to alltel.
Another thing, this bad boy pulled this crap, as soon as alltel activated the device (so I could use it as my phone!) when it was NOT activated, the wifi worked (proven at the motel next door to the Alltel store I exchanged this phone). BTW, I was able to test it on the 1st phone shipped to me, while it was activated, it pulled the same thing, when he unactivated the phone, we could almost pickup the wifi from the motel next door (distance was the only issue I think now looking back) but seemed like a chip problem.
Where I got screwed was we believed the wifi to be bad on the 1st phone. So he got out a new phone, and before we activated it, I went and tested the wifi, it worked on the 2nd phone. I thought wall was fine, it worked. then I had him activate it, assuming that proved I will be able to use the wifi. So I leave the store thinking OK wifi works. I get home, and again unable to use my home networking wifi to open web or apps. unacceptable. Yet the 6800 does and still works flawlessly (as long as you slide the wifi sider on side to on {inside joke}).
follw me better now?
What brand router do you have? How many devices are wireless? And it connects to other locations but are you sending and recieving data? Try this link http://www.wmwifirouter.com/trial/ and install on 6800 if you are not normally around hotspots. This will test the t-pro's ability to send and recieve information via wifi. Now it is sounding like an IP address conflict.
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What brand router do you have? How many devices are wireless? And it connects to other locations but are you sending and recieving data? Try this link http://www.wmwifirouter.com/trial/ and install on 6800 if you are not normally around hotspots. This will test the t-pro's ability to send and recieve information via wifi. Now it is sounding like an IP address conflict.
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Sweeny, Im in the houshold router (made by 2wire) I can see it (the Pro as well as the 6800) each get an ip. (I work In IT, so I know what you are talking about in ip conflicts, all that.) I have even set the router to manually setup IPs now, then set the ip inside the Pro, as well as the default gateway, dns all that.) I'm telling ya, it is more like it doesnt know the DNS or the gateway (just like I disable internet surfing on the computers at work that I still must use networking)
I copied the DNS and everything from a working laptop (ipconfig -all) on a wireless laptop today, and still as if it was disabled.
This weekend i will test the dang thing tethering with my notebook i'll bring home from work (use the pro as the internet access). if it wont tether either, then I think allHell is doing something. Again if the device is DE-Activated I will wifi... {I'll bet you $$}. I might call alltel, tomarrow night, and try that. I'll have them inactivate it and if it suddenly works, then the question is, what do I do with alltel? they dont have the right to disable hotspot usage do they?
I feel I feel the presence of VERIZON already in Alltel, Luke is turning to the dark side. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
You all thought I was off my crock...
http://www.htcwiki.com/thread/2073117/Touch+Pro+WiFi?t=anon lots of folks posting same problems it looks like.
Need that group of people who can create a kitchen, and hcak tomtoms, to help us with this PLEASE!
No I don't, think you're off your crock I just know how frustrating problems like this can be. Here is what I suggest you do. And if this doesn't work exchange the phone or try a different router. I know what you're thinking....not the router. Truth is might be. Its just like wireless adapters in wii's and ps3's they simply will not work with a handfull of routers even though not clearly documented.
Anyway, change router to static Ip's, safer anyway.
Specifiy gateway, primary and secondary dns, and limit your ip's within 100 available obtainables. Use a 64 bit wep encryption. Change the channel of your router's broadcast to 1 or 11. Use only simple gateway ip range, not pure server. If you need me to provide you with example settings then pm me because I do not want to broadcast them via forum
Good luck.
Dont take this the wrong way....but are you positive that you are disabling the DATA Connection in Comm Manager?
I have had the alltel touch pro since the second they hit the store. I have used 3 of them since and they all work perfectly on wifi. I primarily use wifi and use diamond tweak to activate the wifi standby so wifi stays connected in standby like data does by default and use modaco nodata to disable data as I live in a house that gets a very lowsignal from the tower and eats my battery superfast if I use data. I have a router in the house and one in my office detached from my home and when I had my mogul it often would not switch between routers successfully requiring me to manually connect more often than not. All the Touch Pros connect superfast and switch automatically. I am running mightyrom 4.12 and telus radio which is light years better than stock with signal, speed and batterylife, but even when I was on stock for about 3 months there were absolutely no wifi issues.
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Dont take this the wrong way....but are you positive that you are disabling the DATA Connection in Comm Manager?
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Not sure which of us you are asking this queston of...
Thanks, for the help so far...
I was having the same issue (Alltel and all).
I found this post in the MS forums:
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsmobile/thread/561f18a8-5f64-4359-957e-adb003229f1d
Essentially, it says to "Navigate to START/SETTINGS/Connections Tab/Connections icon/Advanced Tab
Press Select Networks Button
At the top it says "Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using:"
You want to press on the drop down and choose My Work Network"
You need to tell the system that the Work Network connects to the internet as well. While this doesn't seem like the ideal solution (there should be a faster way to switch it, or it should do it automatically depending on location), it did work for me. I'm sure there's a much more sleek solution out there, though.
Btw... I hope I'm posting this correctly. I'm more a reader than a poster.
Ooop... one more thing. Its non-sleekatude rests with the fact that when you want to switch between wifi and your data plan, you have to go through the whole process, and switch the active network from My Work Network to Alltell Wireless. This is where I was hoping for a better solution. As I say, it does work, but it seems like it should involve less hassle.
Might add this to the WIKI, I dunno but there could be a few more thousand users out there on ATT or SWB using the modem/routers that they shipped when you got DSL more than a year ago...
Everyone that has the older 2 wire brand, wifi modem/router that came with SBC (now ATT). Wierd I know. But Mine has just been replaced by the newer version of that modem/router. and I will be dammed, it works. but the phone wont work with the older ones. Mine was the 2WIRE 1000hw model. they are shipping new models, and finally the phone will work with the wifi on that new router.
Thought it might be nice to know...
alltel model uses wifi just fine
My TP from alltel works just fine with wi-fi all i ever do is turn it on and then select which connection i want to make ...really quite nice...maybe you need to exchange yours...
On further testing of my own setup, I'm thinking my issue was the router. I had done several fixes all at once, and cited the wrong fix as the working one. I happened to reset my router at the same time I did the above suggested fix.
I thought it had to be the device, as my HTC Apache never had an issue with the router, but after resetting the router, and going back to the original settings on the TP, I'm having no problems connecting to the network. I wish I could pinpoint the exact conflict between the two, but now that I have it working, I'm not messing with it.
My suggestion is to back up your router settings, reset the router, and see what happens. Or test your wifi on someone else's network.
Isolating a network conflict can be one of the least fun things to do, but from everything I've seen here and in other forums (and my experience with it) I'm going to say that's the issue, and not the TP alone.
I don't think it likes your router being wireless B, you should try it on a wireless G router before Ebaying it.
I was trolling thru the settings and saw there's a built in VPN that can be used is it worth it or is this one that Verizon has control over and would just hand over your info to the mafiaa anyway ? Anyone know more about this or have you used it yet ?
It's just a remote access client. Stock Android comes with one, which you can still use here, LG has provided a more advanced one that has better compatibility with more advanced forms of IPSec encryption, haven't really played with it to see what else it does.
I highly doubt that Verizon has instructed LG to intentionally compromise the security of their VPN client, the legal ramifications alone would make this a very foolish decision, even for Big Red. The security of the traffic sent over the tunnel depends on what type of encryption was used, and we can't currently be positive that there is a type of encryption out there the NSA can't crack, they don't need Verizon's help to do so.
What type of VPN are you trying to connect to? If this is corporate or educational the security of the traffic isn't your responsibility anyway.
I just use the stock Android on. I have been using it for years so I stuck with it. I played with the LG one but for what I need, the stock is all I need. I use it to stream movies to me phone from my home server and I can access my drives.
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I never used it before and all I would need it for would be the occasional stream when Netflix don't have something. So I guess the LG one would work just fine. I didn't know much about there VPN being on he in the first place or android. So thanx I leaned a bit tonight. ?
And ya I know all about if the nsa wants you they'll get you lol. Which is why I won't even step near anything like Expendables. Lions gate is like a pack of wild dogs going after people right now. ?
Given the actions of our Broadband and Cellular companies over the last few years, i have decided i wont use my computer and phone without a VPN. They have no right snooping.
I use VYPRVPN and i have tried many Vpn services over the last 2 years. VyprVpn seems to be the best bang for the Buck and the have the fastest speeds and a large amount of servers. Two things that separate Vypr from all the other VPN services is they use their own proprietary Protocol called Chameleon Protocol which is built on top of OpenVPN. It adds another 256bit layer of encryption on top of OpenVpns 256bit encryption and keeps our ISP's from knowing if were are using a VPN at all. The other added Benefit is they use their own DNS servers and detect and prevent DNS leakage also built in kill switches for in case you loose your VPN connection for what ever reason it will disable your internet all together to keep whatever you were working on from leaking out for prying eyes. They do minimal logging. They would prefer you not to do any torrenting but they dont block you from torrenting. But if you are someone who likes to torrent then use a server outside the US that doesn't have strict piracy laws.
Like i said i have used many VPN services and VyprVPN is by far the best ive ever used. There are tons of perks that others cant come close to offering. I have the premier plan and its worth it.
YES VPN IS WORTH IT. Anonymity is a must for me and should be for everyone else. What i do with my connection is none of anyone else's business. Especially since i pay a buttload of money to have internet. Hope that helps.
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YES VPN IS WORTH IT. Anonymity is a must for me and should be for everyone else. What i do with my connection is none of anyone else's business. Especially since i pay a buttload of money to have internet. Hope that helps.
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My ISP (Sonic.net) allows VPN if you have a valid account.
The LG VPN works fine. Still getting LTE speeds through their backbone.
I guess I'll keep VPN enable permanently.
Sounds good. Now to learn how to use it properly lol. But ya my thoughts exactly no one needs to see what I have on my connection but me. And with all the snooping going on and intrusive adds grabbing info to see what sites you visit just to send you relevant adds (cough cough ) it's a great idea.
Most routers support VPN so its free to setup and easy to do
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Hi all. Trying to get the lg VPN going but I've only ever set one up for my home comps n they basica9did everything for you. One click setup so to speak.
I got to name the VPN then it asks for the ip address but is that my ip or the one I want it to show (masked) ?gotta admit I don't know much bout this lol thanx in advance guys .
VPN on Android
VPN on Android has kind of been a sore subject since KitKat. I used to connect to L2TP on Mac OS X Server (snow leopard) from my phones as far back as Gingerbread, but with KitKat, L2TP became incompatible with Apple's implementation. That being said, PPTP works fine although being slightly less secure than L2TP. Android connects just fine to my Ubuntu Server PPTP, but no matter what I do I can not get get OpenSwan (Linux L2TP) to work outside my local LAN. Considering I have the EXACT same problem with OS X L2TP over the Internet but iOS devices can still manage to "phone home" to my L2TP server, I'm sure has something to do with my ISP considering L2TP an "enterprise" application and blocking my traffic, but iOS devices use some form of non-standard/undocumented L2TP.
I use VPN all the time for the simple fact that it provides a secure tunnel back home so I can grab files off my server, etc. Not only that, but it's a good way to provide at least some security when using public wifi. The thought of using public wifi without VPN gives me chills. It is disappointing that Android has deemed PPTP not secure enough to enable "always on vpn", which would tunnel 100% of your data through your VPN whenever a data connection (4G or WiFi) are available.