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Hi,
After trying the various excellent roms from our charmer wm6 developers I've now gone back to version 2.5.
This version has working a2dp and internet explorer home page. (Although the latter has now been figured out)
The ability to switch between page scroll and link scroll also works within version 2.5. (I use pieplus)
Version 2.5 is also very fast and seems very stable, with a good amount of free memory available for all the extra stuff we like to put on.
Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate the effort that has gone into the version 4 roms but I am struggling to fault version 2.5. (unless I've missed something.)
regards
pjam
I've just been doing my homework and it seems that the a2dp support on version 2.5 is the same as the wm5 as far as quality is concerned.
According to various sources, the true wm6 greatly improves the a2dp quality allowing a "joint stereo" setting to be used within the registry. The joint stereo option within this rom and the wm5 rom seemingly improves quality but actually plays in mono rather than stereo.
I've just tested this.
I have no idea how to do it but is it possible to just add a true wm6 bluetooth stack?
cheers
pjam
I agree
I am still with 2.5, mainly because of a2dp - I use it every day. In testing the 4.x roms, I couldn't see a big advantage either - the main change is to the icons in Office Mobile apps and their support of the new compressed XML document formats (which just slows them down imho).
I think it would be good to have a list of the registry tweaks etc that have been applied to make 4.x better so we can try the same on the 2.5 rom.
Pjam: you can't base your theory on just one example (yours). Most users reported an increase in speed after flashing the 004.4 rom. The thing is, it's on completely different core, and that's why it cannot be compared to 2.5.
I recently disposed myself of my charmer so I'm not able to continue the work, unlike nocture... The only thing missing in 4.4 is A2DP and IE homepage (issue already solved). Having that fixed, the final rom will be ready and I'm assuming it won't be developed any more.
Personally, I use wizard nowadays and got through various wm6 rom for wizard. I NEED to say that they are all buggy and unstable, which was not observed by me on the vlono wm6 for charmer. So instead of wallowing and complaining you should just try to embrace the rom AS it IS.
vlodeck said:
So instead of wallowing and complaining you should just try to embrace the rom AS it IS.
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Steady on Vlodeck.
I've already complimented you and nocturne on the various roms and was simply pointing out, politely, what I have observed after trying each version. Nocturne has already pointed out that he doesn't have an a2dp headset to test so it is up to us that have headsets to highlight what does and doesn't work.
I may not be a programmer but feel I have contributed to the wm6 roms by offering suggestions and potential solutions as I have found them. I haven't just sat back and waited.
I am not wallowing or complaining, just opening a discussion that will hopefully help others to make a decision.
regards
pjam
Don't know if it's been posted as of yet. Being that I only get time for this forum at work, I cannot afford the time luxury to wade through pages of results. My apologies for that...
A coworker and I both have the Titan. I've hacked the crud out of my phone and unlocked so many of those golden features Verizon locks out to spite us.
To the point... With the recent release of the XV6900 we both have developed an interest in it's features. Bluetooth keyboard support, bluetooth storage devices and a slew of other really nice items. But the lack of a built in keyboard and wifi make the phone less desirable...
In short, is there a Kitchen that can be installed to include the merged features of both phones onto the XV6900? Or is the 64 megs of RAM a significant limiting factor?
First, you cannot run a Vogue (6900) ROM on your Titan. There are however, plenty of ways to customize and add features to your device. There are several custom ROMs and kitchens here on XDA, but my personal kitchen of choice is the one from PPCGeeks/PPCKitchen.org. You will have to do a little reading, but there are lots of good tutorials at PPCGeeks, and the whole thing is not difficult if you take your time and follow instructions. The thread discussing the kitchen is here. Also be sure to check out some of the stickies in that forum for additional tutorials and advice. If you have any specific questions, I'd be happy to try and answer them.
Edit: more on point to your specific questions, yes, you can add virtually every feature you see on the Touch to your Titans with the use of a custom ROM. Most of the stuff is available in cabs as well. There is a sticky in the Development and Hacking forum here at XDA that has all the HTC apps.
I'm not a stranger to flashing roms. I've been updating with the DCD kitchens since i got the titan. I wasn't too pleased with the lack of GPS functionality even though the hardware fully supports it.
I'm interested in the extra Bluetooth features if it is even possible. "Settings/system/memory/storage card" has the bluetooth storage option on the 6900, the 6800 lacks this. Is it more a hardware than a software feature?
The touchflow and cube are very well implemented on the touch. Last time i verified it wasn't working too well on the Titan.
There are a few other features I'd like to merge in. The biggest issue though is indeed memory and the lack thereof on the Titan.
The touchflow and cube are very well implemented on the touch. Last time i verified it wasn't working too well on the Titan.
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Touchflo and cube are working absolutely fine on my Titan.
As far as the memory goes...if you want the extra RAM you're going to have to buy a vogue or wait for the successor to the Titan. The Titans will NEVER get more RAM, nor will there be any way to add more RAM.
Hi hkwildboy,
Great appreciation to hkwildboy discovering such an solution for quick GPS locking ........ & here is a CAB who find difficulty in editing Reg edit......
Mod's just for an awareness among all members i created new thread as this is a most essential part (GPS locking) most people complain of......
As per the feed back from senior's i came to know that the cab i attached was not working so please forgive me ...this thread will be closed.
Is the cab uninstallable?
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Is the cab uninstallable?
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Yes it is uninstallable......
I'm trying it out on AT&T Fuze with Shep's 3g. I'm indoors and cannot get a fix with the standard setup. Outdoors I usually get a fix within a minute or so. I will report if this improves my experience later this evening.
Thank you for sharing this.
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With admitted limited use, I would tend to confirm reduced lag. I was not able to get locks indoors at home or at work either with or without the cab installed so no improvement there. The lag reduction alone makes the cab worthy of install however, as I must also admit to seeing no ill/adverse effects from the install. Thanks for the heads up.
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With admitted limited use, I would tend to confirm reduced lag. I was not able to get locks indoors at home or at work either with or without the cab installed so no improvement there. The lag reduction alone makes the cab worthy of install however, as I must also admit to seeing no ill/adverse effects from the install. Thanks for the heads up.
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the cab does only help in speed lock of gps , would not help at places where you are not exposed to open space to get sat signals also depends on radio as well, i am residing at place where i do not get a proper signal...can't expect gps to work.
Does it also reduce lag or was that my imagination? I didn't think it could do anything for signal, but I know many woould like to see an answer to that question. Thanks again for making us aware.
Well I hate to burst anyone's bubble, but you do realize that both 5.08 and the new 5.10 Raphael drivers have already addressed the lock-on/aGPS issues, right ????
All you need is a newer radio, and those new drivers. Any ROM here on XDA has those drivers implemented by now.
This file/reg tweaks are really only useful if you're still running the stock ROM. In which case, how much use are you REALLY getting out of XDA ????
In any case, this fix is for stock ROM's. if you're running NATF, or Energy, or ROMeo's, or Da_G's custom ROMS, the fix for this has already been done, on the HTC side.
I'm running 6.5, and since aGPS is actually working, I'm getting locks in under 15 secs, in under 5 if I'm already connected to the internet.
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This file/reg tweaks are really only useful if you're still running the stock ROM. In which case, how much use are you REALLY getting out of XDA ????
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I don't want to get into any theological debate over the good and evil of it, but there's a lot of people who, for various reasons, are stuck using the stock roms or they are too fearful of flashing.
Just an example, a buddy of mine works for AT&T. One of AT&T's policies (like every other major carrier) is to hand out different handsets to the employees so that they can become familiar with them. Next month he's supposed to sample the Fuze. These types of fixes will actually be pretty useful to him for the purpose of making the fuze realistically functional.
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I don't want to get into any theological debate over the good and evil of it, but there's a lot of people who, for various reasons, are stuck using the stock roms or they are too fearful of flashing.
Just an example, a buddy of mine works for AT&T. One of AT&T's policies (like every other major carrier) is to hand out different handsets to the employees so that they can become familiar with them. Next month he's supposed to sample the Fuze. These types of fixes will actually be pretty useful to him for the purpose of making the fuze realistically functional.
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I understand where you're coming from. However, most of XDA's fame and notoriety came from ROM's. Nowadays, it has fixes/updates to things, but at its core, its a place for custom ROMs for HTC phones.
BTW, I should have clarified. AT&T released an official, updated ROM for the Fuze. It, among other things, addressed this issue. So if someone is scared to run a custom ROM, they can always just flash to the official update, and still, problem solved with aGPS.
I have worked for AT&T, so I now the specific program you're referring to. By now, all Fuze's should be shipped with latest update. And even if not, its not very hard to flash to something he likes, and then flash it all back to stock when he needs to turn it in....
And btw, not every carrier does that. At least, not the one I work for now....
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BTW, I should have clarified. AT&T released an official, updated ROM for the Fuze. It, among other things, addressed this issue. So if someone is scared to run a custom ROM, they can always just flash to the official update, and still, problem solved with aGPS.
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I may be mistaken, as I only spent a few minutes looking, but I can't find an officially released rom update for the Fuze anywhere on HTC or AT&T's site. AT&T's support FAQ claims there's no updates yet. Assuming these sites aren't misrepresenting the facts, I'm pretty sure you're mistaking the firmware update with the Leaked version here: A-GPS works in 5.08 leaked AT&T ROM. Keep in mind, that version leaked less than 6 weeks ago and AT&T is famously slow to release.
You're picking at exactly the point I said I didn't want to get into, that we shouldn't be discussing "To Flash or Not To Flash". Fact is that there's some people who can't...or won't...flash their phones, but installing a cab that notably improves GPS performance with minimal (at this point, virtually zero) risk is surely good for them. There's no reason to knock a good solution if it exists. My point is, XDA isn't just about the latest ROMs, and from the reading I've been doing on here for the last couple of years, I don't believe it's ever been just about the roms.
I'd be willing to bet there's going to be a fair number of people getting use out of this fix. Nearly 300 downloads in just the last 3 days, I suspect at least 10% of those downloaders are getting a lot out of XDA without using a custom rom. In other words, cut these guys some slack, they're doing good work even if it doesn't apply to the majority.
Hi krish_nank
This cab works well with my rom : ROMeOS v.1.95.1 WWE.
Regards,
PB
speed_pour and mexiken stay on topic please.
if you both want to discuss certain things that don't concern the meaning of this thread please pm each other or do it on the msn.
you both have installed the cab? if yes, what are the experiences?
thanks and regards
pabcb said:
Hi krish_nank
This cab works well with my rom : ROMeOS v.1.95.1 WWE.
Regards,
PB
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in which way did it worked well? i know it is for faster gps locks.
But can you be more concrete?
thanks
I dont suppose this also corrects the gps satellite bars for signal not showing does it ?
(IE TomTom , Igo , and a few others dont report the signal strength )
Thanks Much
GSM Raphael owners take note!
pretty funny. Also a good indication of the subjectivity of this problem and the power of the "placebo effect".
Sorry to say, but this cab really doesn't do anything. It sets pollinterval to 500 which is below the 1 second chip update capability. Da_G demonstrated the ineffectiveness of this. Pollinterval should be 1000. Also this cab sets the logs to 32, another setting that has been proven ineffective.
To fix the missing satellite display, TomTom must be upgraded to v7.910.9185.
There is an AT&T test ROM underlying acquisition time fixes to the GPS system. This correctly enables AGPS resulting in consistent 15 second lock times. It has no effect on position lag.
If you really want to understand GPS issues you must patiently read through the entire mammoth thread located in the raphael forum titled "touchpro GPS lag problems". Switch to the forum and sort by views. It is one of the most viewed threads there. It describes in great detail the various GPS issues starting on about post 300. Videos and real cabs containing tested tweaks are there too.
Here is your quiz. Once finished reading you will be able to easily understand and differentiate between these:
what is position lag?
what is speed lag?
what is a cold start, warm start, hot start?
what is ephemeris and how does AGPS affect this?
how does AGPS differ from QuickGPS?
Why does AGPS have no effect on either lags?
More importantly, you will understand exactly what you need to do to turn your Raphael into one of the absolute best handheld GPS devices out there.
Or, you could just load one of the fixed ROMs and run TomTom v7.910.9185 (yes, position lag is partially based on the navigator you are using)
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pretty funny. Also a good indication of the subjectivity of this problem and the power of the "placebo effect".
Sorry to say, but this cab really doesn't do anything. It sets pollinterval to 500 which is below the 1 second chip update capability. Da_G demonstrated the ineffectiveness of this. Pollinterval should be 1000. Also this cab sets the logs to 32, another setting that has been proven ineffective.
To fix the missing satellite display, TomTom must be upgraded to v7.910.9185.
There is an AT&T test ROM underlying acquisition time fixes to the GPS system. This correctly enables AGPS resulting in consistent 15 second lock times. It has no effect on position lag.
If you really want to understand GPS issues you must patiently read through the entire mammoth thread located in the raphael forum titled "touchpro GPS lag problems". Switch to the forum and sort by views. It is one of the most viewed threads there. It describes in great detail the various GPS issues starting on about post 300. Videos and real cabs containing tested tweaks are there too.
Here is your quiz. Once finished reading you will be able to easily understand and differentiate between these:
what is position lag?
what is speed lag?
what is a cold start, warm start, hot start?
what is ephemeris and how does AGPS affect this?
how does AGPS differ from QuickGPS?
Why does AGPS have no effect on either lags?
More importantly, you will understand exactly what you need to do to turn your Raphael into one of the absolute best handheld GPS devices out there.
Or, you could just load one of the fixed ROMs and run TomTom v7.910.9185 (yes, position lag is partially based on the navigator you are using)
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Hi Sir, May be i was wrong as i am not a technically sound person about the mobile working.....if you really believe this cab doesn't have helped any one or doesn't help any way....please close the thread.....once it is done i will delete the cab too. I don't want to waste many people time & useless long thread with out working fix.........
By the way it is been mentioned that this cab act as an tweak to get quick satellite fix not to correct a lagging problem ....
Please close this thread if possible or delete the thread itself Thank you
Hi Krish,
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been on the forum for a few weeks since getting a raphael and never realised what fun i could have!!!! had htc devices for years from a vario through to artemis and nike, all on t-mobile uk and never knew all this could be done.
anyway - thanks to all you developers and chefs - tried loads of roms and still trying to learn.
the questions i have are as follows - and yes, I have searched for these answers and have further comments on this below
i love the interface from my mda touch plus / nike, where i swipe up and down to activate menu. i believe this is touchFLO (original)??
is there a simple ROM that incorporates this for my gsm raphael? I haven;t taken to touchflo 3d at all and likewise wm6.5 interface.
also, my gps keeps dropping out when using igo 8 - i get the impression this is common but can't find any info on a rom that is good for gps use which is probably the most important aspect of what rom i finally stick with.
finally, fom a noobs perspective, i've read many threads requesting advice on roms, simple, basic roms etc and these threads are closed and / or banned. Let me assure you, the amount of information on here and diversity of roms, it is extremely hard to try and assess what roms to try, what they will give etc especially if you're relatively new to the forum and don't know the style or history of a chef. many of these rom threads are so large, it would take months to read through and assess the different roms and the one you may be trying to find may be many pages down as it has received no recent comments.
is there a summary page that could be sticky'd or made? what i mean by this is a very simple summary page that a chef could update with a few simple words regarding th latest development of the rom.
eg.
<rom name> - <release date> - <style> - <state of development comments>
wm6.5 - released 20 may 09 - loaded, TF3D, applications bias - new release, some bugs to be ironed out
wm6.1 - released jun 08 - vanilla,simple rom, manilla - fully developed and stable, good for gps issues
from this summary, people woulld have an idea what rom may be suitable for them without extensive searching.
as the rom progressed, the state of development comment could be changed but everything else would essentially remain the same. unless I'm missing something, i think that this would stop a lot of questions and new threads requesting advice as it is really difficult to keep track of roms and development on here. anyone such as myself, unfamiliar with all the roms finds it very frustrating when threads are closed and comments are made from those with more knowledge of the forum that are far from constructive. it would be quicker for some just to suggest a rom rather than ***** on about the lack of knowledge the person requesting the information has.
Good point, well made, read my sig
On the GPS issue you need to go to the radio thread sticky (start on the last page and work backwards, that is after you have read the first post explaining what is what)
Maybe you could volunteer to put together a WIKI page that people could then update (I know as a Chef myself I am generally trying to keep track of bug reports and dont have much time to put anything else together).
My Rom (B4PJS AYCEv2 Fully Loaded)
wm6.5 - releases most days (when the missus doesnt moan at me) - TF3D2/Titanium, any apps I can get my hands on - generally in permanent beta but stable and fast(ish)
Someone posted this the other day.
ROM guide for your HTC Raphael!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523961
Here's a shortlist of most popular ROM's, sorted alphabetically:
Seasoned ROMs
NotATreoFan (NATF series) *
Aruppental (RRE series)
NRGZ28 (EnergyROM series)
Wordsmith9091 (Fuzeberry series)
Intermediate Updates
At0mAng (At0mAng series)
Shepp211 (Premier series)
New To The Scene
B4PJS
jmckeejr
michyprima
Mr. Makk
teixeirabmb
xECK29x
Retired/Moved On
monx
pfcsabre
* a.k.a. Forum Moderator series
@ harra et all
The reality is that flashing is so simple (after HardSPL is done) that the only thing that has to be conquered is the fear of flashing. If you flash from your SD card (which is the simplest and the safest) you could flash many ROMs everyday and decide for yourself what works best with your device, service provider / location and personal preferences in apps and usage. No one knows what is best for you except you. My very first post on this forum was a new thread asking the same question and the response was just as you described, but there was one piece of advice that made sense to me, ‘keep trying new ROMs until you find one you like’ (and then the thread was locked).
The list that hilaireg posted is a great place to start, or you could simply start at the top of the ROM Development page and pick the latest post or pick the one with the most hits etc… You can tell in a few minutes if you like it enough to work with it for a while. If you like it, follow the thread and share your findings with the other users of that ROM. It is fun and helps the chef to perfect his creation based on your discoveries. That is part of the fun we are having here @ XDA. Soon you will be answering questions that others are asking as your expertise grows…
BTW: It is best to have a dedicated 1gb SD card for flashing. I can speak from experience…
After following the various video/text guides to install cm7 alpha 2.1 on the TouchPad, I am getting a weird error and non-responsive device.
I have installed cm7 on other TouchPads and had no problem. On this one it re-boots to a screen which says, "Please release keys...". There is no combination of keys which fixes this. Only thing which has worked is to Doctor it.
The only thing different on this TP is that it is the ATT 4G version, which uses a different ROM/Doctor.
I've been searching various forums for 3 days and haven't seen anyone else with this problem.
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...The only thing different on this TP is that it is the ATT 4G version, which uses a different ROM/Doctor.
I've been searching various forums for 3 days and haven't seen anyone else with this problem.
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Really?? I'm shocked! The search function must be broken, I've read at least 20 or 30 threads on this problem...
Considering they're as common as dirt, the Cyanogen touchpad team certainly must had access to that particular model and I have no doubt ensuring the compatibility & functionality of the alpha on that particular model of hardware was their absolute top priority!
I honestly can't imagine what must have precipitated this unforeseen calamity! Fear not! I'm sure the greatest minds on this forum are feverishly working, day & night, without food or bathroom breaks, to determine the root of this dysfunction using the spare ATT 4G Touchpads they had sitting around, relegated to propping doors open, leveling wobbly tables, etc...
over in the rootz forum for CM, apparently, this is a known issue for the 4G models, copmatibility is not yet available, but it is reported on the bug list so im sure it will be fixed, but as usual, no eta's!
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over in the rootz forum for CM, apparently, this is a known issue for the 4G models, copmatibility is not yet available, but it is reported on the bug list so im sure it will be fixed, but as usual, no eta's!
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Thanks, I didn't see that in my internet searches.
Could you point me to the bug in the list? I can't seem to find it or at least I don't want to open a duplicate one.
its issue #398
http://code.google.com/p/cmtouchpad/issues/list?num=100&start=100
link might get removed, but its the open issues list, 2nd page (was apparently reported today, was it you? ;P)
also, i know dalingrin adresses the issue in the thread, but may be something on the back burner for future release and not requested on bug list per se