Living on the edge! - Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development

this is my passout thread (IE sleep)
DCD or nue?
Which one you think will come out with a new one first? Looked through the bugs for Nue3pre3 and looks like alot (a few which prevent me from going their) as for DCD am using 3.2.6 right now (a few bugs which others have reported but usable overall)
no arguments as to whos is better and what not... just who thinks who will out the next one first (DCD had a leak due to a friend testing for him and nue has been saying hell get 3pre4/whatever out for like the last month, and its been the bigges break in updates that I can remember for the Titan) and being as my MB BIOS and VGA BIOS are now at their latest versions (well MB has a BETA version that ACTUALLY fixes a MAJOR problem i had) and my phone with its lack of memory problem is just begging for an update/flash (and VGA drivers! come on http://www.htcclassaction.org/ finish the drivers already)
Simple as that... (well not so simple... but whatever... im literally going to passout)

Betting On
Im Betting on DCD. They both are very creative but I think he will be the first to come out with a ROM that is new and improved. Who knows he may borrow some of nue's memory saving techniques.... That would really rock.

no2chem's latest blog entry states he is coming out with a combined NueROM3 kitchen (along with Touch Pro/Diamond) for Titan in next couple days. He states he hasn't forgotten the Titan. I'm running his pre3 release now and I like it. Sadly, I'm not nearly as optimistic about DCD releasing anything further. I ran 3.2.6 almost forever and he's the first rom developer I liked so much that I felt compelled to donate to in support of his work. Don't get me wrong...I got my money's worth and more but I think DCD has moved on to other things. In the grander scheme of things I don't think there will be many more (or any at all) 'Titan' releases since the manufacturers are releasing new hardware, etc and our device like all others before it will eventually become obsolete and less interesting which is a shame cuz I really like the Titan. Just my .02

I win!
DCD Has posted a ROM today.
dcd's titan ROM 3.3.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444239

LOL i hate to totally disagree with you blueglide... but... DCD's rom got leaked a little while back when he was giving it to a friend to test for him! meanwhile nue has gotten the Touch Pro and ever since that nothing else for the Titan has come to light...
also... DCD just posted his new version... LOL

Kane3162 said:
LOL i hate to totally disagree with you blueglide... but... DCD's rom got leaked a little while back when he was giving it to a friend to test for him! meanwhile nue has gotten the Touch Pro and ever since that nothing else for the Titan has come to light...
also... DCD just posted his new version... LOL
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Wow...I called that one wrong....maybe I should express my opinions more often...LOL...can't wait to try it!

lol! you should!
But anyway... as it stands... i dont know the situation with DCD nore do i care to follow it o so well (but i do check this site EVERY day to see if something new is released and what changes have been made, but not only for DCD's rom)
as for nue... hes a bright guy... and very talented when it comes to programming/gfx designing for the WM environment... however... being one of those poor people who cant afford to upgrade to the TouchPro... I kinda feel like nue has been a MSFT developer (WM on Mogul) and all the sudden upgraded to Linux developing (WM on TouchPro) and therefor quality of/existance of work for the titan will diminish more then it already is
(i hope that explanation was easy to follow... basically Mogul VS Touch Pro in the hardware aspect since nearly 80% of everything meant for the Touch Pro will NOT work on the Mogul ex: QVGA v VGA)

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Diamond ROM on a Titan - Only a Matter of Time

Does any one know if any one in the Titan threads (xda or ppcgeeks) will be creating a New Rom based on the leaked Diamond ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394985
The Kaiser community has managed to create one already.
dcd has been talking in the Diamond ROM threads so I would imagine that he will be doing one.
Has any one extracted the components from the ROM?
I was thinking of doing a Diamond Theme, but I would rather save some time if some one already extracted the components.
[email protected]$ said:
Has any one extracted the components from the ROM?
I was thinking of doing a Diamond Theme, but I would rather save some time if some one already extracted the components.
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VetVito over at PPCGeeks has ported over a Diamond ROM and is testing some OEMs now according to his latest post.
would the titan be able to run that well though? I doubt it would be worth it.
Its not the the actuall full rom...just the updated build and such...not the 3d interface...we have no drivers
there are some cool OEM apps in the diamond
it also has aku 1.1 SYS
its very buggy. my standard ROM will not be getting this OS.
I will be updating parts of OEM from it.
since its a test build and clearly buggy, i am not going to mess with bringing over any drivers.
dcd1182 said:
there are some cool OEM apps in the diamond
it also has aku 1.1 SYS
its very buggy. my standard ROM will not be getting this OS.
I will be updating parts of OEM from it.
since its a test build and clearly buggy, i am not going to mess with bringing over any drivers.
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yes, but i wanted to ask, since i checked out the OEM ROM Pack from the diamond i was able to find out it did contain alot of updated drivers for some of the same hardware the titan had, specifically the WIFI module, i was going to update it myself, but didn't think it would be worth it if ur going to do it on a later build of your own rom MR. DCD. And hey there were even tons of hardware accelerator drivers that may actually work for the titan. wonder if you were able to port em over? probably not since a lot of these drivers are also created for what they were intended for, and that clearly isent the titan.
Regardless i cant wait to see what you have in stock for us with a Diamond based ROM for our titans, for the time being befor i get myself the HTC Raphael.
Its to bad the xperia is only GSM and not CDMA, That really looks like a nice phone, but the Raphael well be nicer maybe...
i already tried making my own cabs for alot of what the diamond offers to put on my titan, but alot of them require massive changes because of QVGA... so nothing really kicked off. and im not talking just picture re-sizing, there was alot of XML changing and .dll modifying (which im not capable of) so i don't even think well be seeing a fully fledged diamond clone rom for our titans any time soon, ESPECIALLY SINCE WERE STILL WAITING FOR THOES DAMN HARDWARE ACCELERATION DRIVERS... UGH... Did they think since its QVGA, that its just not even worth it? well they better be coming with em soon, cause I'm getting ridiculously impatient.
ranmasaotome510 said:
yes, but i wanted to ask, since i checked out the OEM ROM Pack from the diamond i was able to find out it did contain alot of updated drivers for some of the same hardware the titan had, specifically the WIFI module, i was going to update it myself, but didn't think it would be worth it if ur going to do it on a later build of your own rom MR. DCD. And hey there were even tons of hardware accelerator drivers that may actually work for the titan. wonder if you were able to port em over? probably not since a lot of these drivers are also created for what they were intended for, and that clearly isent the titan.
Regardless i cant wait to see what you have in stock for us with a Diamond based ROM for our titans, for the time being befor i get myself the HTC Raphael.
Its to bad the xperia is only GSM and not CDMA, That really looks like a nice phone, but the Raphael well be nicer maybe...
i already tried making my own cabs for alot of what the diamond offers to put on my titan, but alot of them require massive changes because of QVGA... so nothing really kicked off. and im not talking just picture re-sizing, there was alot of XML changing and .dll modifying (which im not capable of) so i don't even think well be seeing a fully fledged diamond clone rom for our titans any time soon, ESPECIALLY SINCE WERE STILL WAITING FOR THOES DAMN HARDWARE ACCELERATION DRIVERS... UGH... Did they think since its QVGA, that its just not even worth it? well they better be coming with em soon, cause I'm getting ridiculously impatient.
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i didnt look at the wifi driver really..
i played a little bit with drivers last night (i have the cdma diamond rom, not sure if its leaked anywhere yet?) but it seemed that anything of interest has a dependency down the chain that is incompatible. i may give it another try but when i found that, i scrapped that project for other things.
right now i am trying to package/play with the OEM stuff. some of it will make it over.
Cool, but I don't mean to crush hopes, just thought you should know:
The Diamond has 192MB or RAM or 3 times what the titan has and 1.5x what were begging for (128...) we're going to run into big problems. Though the idea of OEM would be cool.
Also on the subject of ROMs the P6500 now has a forum and it's got a rom from it. The 6500 is rumored to have good drivers so that could be cool.
Unfortunately the Raphael will be GSM if the recent engadget news is correct which pus the thing on T-Mobile.
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Unfortunately the Raphael will be GSM if the recent engadget news is correct which pus the thing on T-Mobile.
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the Raphael will also be CDMA... Sprint will have it and hopefully Telus will too...
rawr said:
the Raphael will also be CDMA... Sprint will have it and hopefully Telus will too...
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really, that's cool! 5 rows of a hardware keyboard. Hopefully VzW will open up by then.

What if...

So, for all of us DCD fans, could it be that DCD has offered us his last ROM release for the forseeable future? What if it is true (and believe me I hope it isn't)? Has anyone started researching other "stable" alternatives?
Just thought a thread for people to post suggestions or ideas for where we DCDers might go until he returns (if he returns)...
rsempsey said:
So, for all of us DCD fans, could it be that DCD has offered us his last ROM release for the forseeable future? What if it is true (and believe me I hope it isn't)? Has anyone started researching other "stable" alternatives?
Just thought a thread for people to post suggestions or ideas for where we DCDers might go until he returns (if he returns)...
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if dcd is goin to be done then i hope he drops DCD3.2.7m2D
without dcd, titans will never keep advancing
dont know about any other stable alts
nuerom 3....
maybe DCD is a student or sumthing...the summer had a lot of releases...maybe he's too busy now to be tinkering with the titan
Don't get me wrong...If DCD is done or just taking a break, that is totally up to him...this is not his job and he certainly doesn't owe us anything. I'm not here to bash him or beg him, just looking for alternatives that might be close to as good...I agree with megaprime.."without dcd, titans will never keep advancing", but we will have to keep working...
I think he's just been busy
pdub73 said:
I think he's just been busy
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Searching his recent posts makes it appear he's been busy in the Raphael (Touch Pro) forum. Wonder if he got himself a new phone? Or maybe he's just looking at porting the newer Raphael ROM to the Titan. Whatever, I am sure he's got a good reason for not being around... remember, this is a hobby for him, not a business, and anything he provides to us users is a gift.
answerman said:
Searching his recent posts makes it appear he's been busy in the Raphael (Touch Pro) forum. Wonder if he got himself a new phone? Or maybe he's just looking at porting the newer Raphael ROM to the Titan. Whatever, I am sure he's got a good reason for not being around... remember, this is a hobby for him, not a business, and anything he provides to us users is a gift.
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dcd said he would get a Touch Pro when it was available. It makes sense that he somehow has one or surely will have one shortly. I hope he has as much fun with it as he had with his Mogul. Ditto for gc, also, when VZW releases its xv6850...... July or August, perhaps..... 2011 or 2012. ;-)
You might want to take a look at this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2789628&postcount=5
It has the manilla 2d already in it. Pretty fast ROM.
Otherwise you can also watch ppcgeeks.com for new ROMs/Kitchens over there.

No roms, no radio's, no nothing?

What is the use of this forum if there is nothing developped?
Well when Olipro started a development thread it went off topic in post #2.
Why don't you release something, or are you just here to complain?
I'm not complaining. I just observe. And the fact is nothing is develloped for the s740 or is there...
There is a ROM in this forum. What else do you need? Hard-SPL.
This is the development subforum, and you asked what the point of it is. The answer to your question is: development.
Look at the thread Olipro started. Look at the irrelevant responses to his effort to start development for the device.
The point I am trying to make... magical custom software for your device is not going to fall from the sky. As an outsider to the Rose, it appears to me that you all have been given an opportunity to start something here, and nobody has taken it.
yeah exactly...seems like the rose is not popular here while to it seems like a kickass device(without the touchscreen ****)
I've seen some in public but the only ones who has these devices are businessmen...and they don't like to mod their device.
Gr. Bram
Yeap, I'm businessman as well... Anyway technically geeky enough to be not afraid of any modding.
If needed. And in fact I love Rose so much especially for fact, that it's fast, stabile, hasslefree, works with tens of applications perfectly, RAM isn't an issue...
Then what should be theoretically solved by custom ROM?
Honestly - I personally have no idea.
AVE...
You are thinking like user: if it ain't broke - don't fix it.
But there are some people, let's call them geeks, who believe that if it ain't broke - it doesn't have enough features yet.
I would myself mod my phone, but I don't have proper skills to do that. I tried to learn programming languages, I failed so badly that computers started to crash whenever I passed by them...
On the other hand Rose is a very good phone, not perfect but good enough.
BTW, what would be easier(or cooler): modding the ROM, or porting Google Android into Rose?
i'm no businessman.. And i'm using this phone I'm very well with my device, i love it
Hopefully there's coming soon a new ROM.. Because i like to play with thinks, just like my Wii with Chip..
bram_smulders said:
yeah exactly...seems like the rose is not popular here while to it seems like a kickass device(without the touchscreen ****)
I've seen some in public but the only ones who has these devices are businessmen...and they don't like to mod their device.
Gr. Bram
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Heck yes, I own the Xperia X1, but damn this phone looks sleek and nice!
a new cooked ROM will only appear if someone gives oli what he needs to create the SPL thingy-me-bop - hint
It is one gorgeous phone - nicely sized and slick, had about a week to play with it but that was back in november last year when I didnt even know what an SPL was! (sorry oli - I wasnt into cooked roms until I got my blackstone in december!)
I set one of these up for my bossman and ain't seen it since otherwise if it was mine oli would have had what he needed to make the HSPL......

Split 6.1 and 6.5 into different sections?

Can you please split this forum into two areas. I really hate 6.5 it is so buggy at the moment and I am finding my self spending a long time searching through these articles to see what is available. I know the titles sometimes help with "6.5" etc but it would be so much more easier if their was actually sub categories in this category
Doubt it as most if not all roms will be 6.5 b4 long.
i don't know about this. 6.5 is still beta so it will be buggy but there's no point to making another section because when it officially releases soon, 6.1 will be fazed out and die like all the rest that came before it. otherwise there would have been a Windows 2003, WM5, WM6 section opened also, but since they are updates to the same OS there's not much point to making a section for it due to the fact that eventually everyone will upgrade to it when its fully stable
my two cents
cjensen25 said:
Can you please split this forum into two areas. I really hate 6.5 it is so buggy at the moment and I am finding my self spending a long time searching through these articles to see what is available. I know the titles sometimes help with "6.5" etc but it would be so much more easier if their was actually sub categories in this category
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I completely agree, I have been attempting to ignore all 6.5 ROMs, because they are far too buggy, and the won't work with my Redfly, when I try to install the drivers for it, it just freezes my device, and I wind up having to HR. Plus the official release of 6.5 isn't due until Q4 2009 anyway, so it will be a while until we see any "official" ROMs.
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I completely agree, I have been attempting to ignore all 6.5 ROMs, because they are far too buggy, and the won't work with my Redfly, when I try to install the drivers for it, it just freezes my device, and I wind up having to HR. Plus the official release of 6.5 isn't due until Q4 2009 anyway, so it will be a while until we see any "official" ROMs.
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I thought the release is this month??? Maybe it will be 4q before phones start off with 6.5, but im sure XDA forums will have 6.5 before that.
So what bugs are you encountering? Maybe you could compile a list and let the chefs tackle them. There's not many that I can find using RRE's or Da_G's so maybe try one of those?
But yea, please let everyone know what bugs you're experiencing so people can take a look at the root cause and potentially fix them?... I am eagerly awaiting your response to this.
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So what bugs are you encountering? Maybe you could compile a list and let the chefs tackle them. There's not many that I can find using RRE's or Da_G's so maybe try one of those?
But yea, please let everyone know what bugs you're experiencing so people can take a look at the root cause and potentially fix them?... I am eagerly awaiting your response to this.
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seriously i have nil to no bugs with 6.5...
but if you are there are ether related to rom or something you are doing. But ether way you should compile a list in the respective thread to address these alleged issues.
IMHO 6.5 runs far better and quicker than 6.1 ever didd, as far as bugs none that are of any consequence for me
yes man, that is the consensus. plus all the chefs are jumping on it and not looking back broheem.
bilbobrian said:
IMHO 6.5 runs far better and quicker than 6.1 ever didd, as far as bugs none that are of any consequence for me
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Agreed. After finally getting the guts to flash today I can say that 6.5 is how 6.1 should've been. Great interface, much faster. No bugs for me so far.
Whats funny is my 6.5 rom is FAR more stable and reliable than the stock rom that came on my AT&T Fuze... or pretty much any other 6.1 rom I ever flashed to. I can go weeks without having to preform a single soft reset.
A Huge thanks to whoever is hosting the file!
I just downloaded the full file in 1.5 mins!
I agree. . at least for the time being. Break them up a bit.
I was hesitant to move to 6.5 because of said "bugs". Honestly, I haven't seen a single bug since going to 6.5 though. Works much better than 6.1 ever did.
Great response guys.
After reading through all your articles I decided to give 6.5 another shot. I tried 6.5 and experienced alot of bugs ... missing calls ... GPS not working etc.
HOWEVER...
I have just flashed the "EnergyROM Series 3.0 21215" and it seems stable enough for me... the only bug I have found so far is it keeps turning the backlight down even when I set it not too.. so going to have a dig around on the forums to see if anyone else is experiencing this issue.
Thanks again guys
To the split i vote....
No bugs in 6.5 so far but i not really intend to turn back to 6.1 i think is a good idea to split the forum into 2 piece so 6.1 or 6.5 funs no have to bother with the other builds...
My two cents: 6.5 is pretty stable for me too. On the issue propose, each of the 5, 6 or so top chefs have like 2 or 3 roms and I have no trouble finding what I'm looking for on the very first page of the forum. The threads are well labelled too.
If a split is to be made, I'd suggest making a subforum for the 6.1 ROMs, and keep the 6.5 ones in here.
I think its a good idea to split. So far, i only can see these different between WM6.1/WM6.5 :
1-No HTC WM6.5 specific addons/goodies atm.
2-Titanium by M$
3-LockScreen
4-More Outlook Ehancements.
5-Looks like M$ trying to make the WM6.5 OS more independent without 3rd party addons.
Cant wait for HTC device shipped with WM6.5 & get all the HTC goodies soon to make WM6.5 more usable
typically, we don't split. This has happened many times in the past. Are you guys really having problems figuring out which is which?
Its not that it's hard to differentiate, but it would be easier to find the ROMs that people are interested in. Like me, I have been trying to completely ignore the 6.5 ROMs, because they don't work for me. So it would be nice to split them, or at least have a way to organize them.

Whats new for Hermes?

Hi all.
Is there something new for our beloved Hermes? New ROM perhaps? Are there still great cooks for the Hermes? What have I missed in the last 6 months? I have read somewhere that WM is now on 6.5.... is it applicable to our Hermes?
Been soo busy at work! Its been a long time since I found time to visit this site..I think the last time was November/December last year and Im not sure if there are still a lot of Hermes users and a lot of Hermes cooked Roms as it was that time, considering that there are now many new HTC phones coming it. But as for me, I still love my Hermes (or maybe I just dont have the money yet to get a new HTC phone lols).
The current rom Im using I think is version 3.62 with Radio version 1.47.30.10, on WM6.1 with M2D, TouchFlo...I even forgot whose ROM it is...either PDAViet, PhamQuang, abusalza's PDACorner, Starbase64, JoshKoss, CRCinAU or Schaps, I really forgot now, so many Roms to play around that time. I have yet to check first my files in my PC as what were the last things I opened and used with regards to Hermes. Still, my Hermes is still doing great, alive and kicking!
I miss xda-dev. Thanks to all those excellent cooks I mentioned (and forgot to mention) .... I hope these days there is still something new to play around for the Hermes
Thanks..
Well just mossy on down to the Mobile 6 and you will find a few 6.5 ROMS, thankfully so far when one ROM cookers falls in battle then there is another to take up his sword, or should that be wooden spoon.

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