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Dear Community, Dear Experts, Dear Gurus ,
I am hoping for your help. Unfortuntately the Speaker in my HTC TyTn died
and I need to send back the TYTN to the service center in order to get most likely the speaker replaced ( dead ).
Here my isue:
I want to flash the original stock rom, which is:
RUU_Hermes_1.18.257.2_1.18.257.106_1.03.03.10_Qtek_GER_Ship.exe
I have running now and downgraded from WM6 to WM5:
HTC_BOOT HERM200 IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10.Olipro ->>> not OK :-(
ROM HTC German QTEK_102 1.18.257.2 05/30/06 ->>> OK
EXTROM 1.18.257.106 ->>> OK
RadioRom 1.41.00.10 ->>> not OK :-(
Protocol 32.34.7010.01H ->>> OK
OS Build 14955.2.3.0 ->>> OK
AKU 2.3 ->>> OK
The issue is now, how can I restore the original bootloader ? I can only
flash the rom with the RUUWrapper, the result of flashing the original stock
rom is then, that I am still stuck with the modified bootloader and a corrupted
radio rom. Radio Rom was "fixed" by me by flashing the latest version.
If I would try to use the original flasher I would always get an Update Error [260].
So what can I do to resotre the HTC TyTn to its original status, so that the warranty is not voided ... original stock bootloader, radio rom image and so on.
Thanks a lot and hoping for your support, since I am realy lost here.
Sbrani
grab sspl (soft spl) and use that to flash a stock bootloader only.
as far as i know you cannot downgrade the radio due to it being bootloader 0108 variant, but not having a hermes i might be wrong
You can restore the original SPL bootloader by using SSPL but you will not be able to downgrade the Radio as the original has HTC_BOOT 0106.
You have already checked these guys that they haven't released an update?
First of all, thanks a lot for replying, but still the question is, how I can get rid of the HERM200 IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10.Olipro Bootloader. I would need to downgrade once again to the original HTC bootlader 106. As long as I have the other one, I will always end up, with a non working radio rom, since this stone old radio rom is not compatible with the new "IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10" bootlader. Any further Ideas ? Anyway the sspl (soft spl) did the trick and was able to flash orignal rom, but unfortunately with the same result, still not the original bootloader and the radio rom is now again corrupted :-(.
The bootloader hindering you from downgrading to the original radio is not the IPL/SPL combo but instead the built-in bootloader of the radio itself. Read more in the Wiki.
To put back your original SPL loader, use NBHextract to extract the SPL image from the ROM update file you used to downgrade the other bits in your phone, then use NBHgen to create an update file containing only the SPL and then use SSPL for the update.
Hey great support here ! Finally I also managed to restore the original bootloader, which is HERM200 IPL-1.00 HERM200 SPL-1.04. Now I only have to get the original radio rom running. Thanks a lot, seems that I can think now of actually reaching the final goal. I learned a lot. Great community !!!
You're missing the point about the radio. Let me repeat:
You can't install the original radio ROM. You will brick the phone!
abubasim is right, you have htc_boot 0108, so you can only flash radios with htc_boot 0107 or 0108, but not 0106. Your original radio has 0106, so if you flash it you'll get a NoGSM error and a bricked phone.
about downgrading to WM5
pof said:
abubasim is right, you have htc_boot 0108, so you can only flash radios with htc_boot 0107 or 0108,
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Well Pof, abubasim, Couldn’t sbrani downgrade the radio with custom RUU to his own original Rom Radio first?? (almost the official known Radio is 1.38) then following your description. At that time he gone have WM5 Rom and same Radio as original, I just wondering if u can du like this
Don't worry guys I bricked several times now the radio rom . It's just that it is then extra work. I will keep you updated, as soon I have news, for now I can't see anymore those "upgrading" tools. I will try it again tomorrow.
you where able to unbrick because you had HardSPL, but now you have SPL-1.04 which will not allow you to flash unsigned code.
By the way, did anybody have experience with HTC or better to say HTC Serivce Providers. As far as I know I have to send it to Teleservice in Germany. Are they realy checking the installed rom ? Thanks for the info.
Ok, I made it finally, I will post exactly how I did it, maybe it helps someone who will be in the same situation.
Thanks once again, great SUPPORT !!
Sure you'd HELP me!
Hi there,
Hi Sbrani, I'm in the exactly same situation: HTC TYTN (Orange France) without speaker... and needing to go to french HTC support.
I upgraded both ROM and Radio to the latest versions following step by step the tutorial found here and on mr (???) on its website (very well done by the way).
Sbrani, Please could you help me to restore as you did, my factory defaults?
Regards
Fly
Can you give more facts ? Pls look into my first thread and put down the infos. Thx
Guideline: How to downgrade to an original rom
Ok here we go this is how I solved this issue.
First you need to understand the difference between a normal SPL
and the modified SPls, which you can get here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
A standard SPL will not accept any unsigned code !
In case you bricked it already look here :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
1. you need to figure out, which radio rom matches your rom you want to flash, otherwise you end up with a bricked radio rom or even totally bricked,
if you have a standard SPL.
2.Please check it here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
for the roms
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
for the radio roms
3.Looking at my ROM, which I needed I flashed 1.10 - Olipro SPL - based on 1.04,
I flashed it by using SSPL.
4.I flashed then the needed the radio rom
which was Radio upgrade only using CustomRUU 4.3 V 1.38.30.10
5.I used then Custom RUU Updater flashing the needed rom,
but without the included radio rom.
Costum RUU Updater you can find here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_CustomRUU
extracting and modifying is explained here:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=27
actually it is an how to downgrade from WM6 to WM6.
Please have a close look on how to extract the rom and how to create a
costum rom, which will fit your needs. The self made rom,
should then include the original IPL and SPL loader.
I finally used again SSPL to flash the self cooked rom.
Sorry if the guide is not very precise or not correct at all !!
Everybody is welcome to correct me and to finetune this guide.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, please read the HERMES WIKI, it was a great help for me !!
Thank you!
You deserve a Very Very Warm thank you!
I'll try all you advised me this week-end.
Regards,
FlY
it's very good already. i think you should get it incorporated into MrVanx's guide as a downgrade for servicing section
Thanks for your guide sbrani, I have not had to downgrade yet, but it something that is in the back of my mind as I know it will be very difficult if I ever need to.
I would also second the comment that I would be very grateful to MrVanx if he wrote a general guide on how to return to factory condition , as it is much more involved than upgrading. It's one thing to flash a phone, a totally different thing to customise a ROM update in order to only flash a specified portion.
@sbrani:
What version is your radio ROM at now? 1.03.03.10 or 1.38.30.10?
Hello
I.m new in the forum,i'm writing from italy and here i'can't find a valid and perfect forum like this,
yesterday i had my new Uk Vpa Compact 1605(Herm200) , with
Ipl 1.01
Spl 1.09
Os 5.1.461(Build 15671.3.3.0)
Rom vers. 2.07.161.1 released the 2nd of giune 2007
Radio 1.32.00.00
Protocol 32.65.7020.09W
At the end of the day i flashed Hardspl with new ipl 1.04 and spl 2.10
and new official Wm6.
now my questions is.. Can i reflash in my Vodafone 1605 all the original rom ,spl,ipl,radio, Os etc. etc. ???
If it is possible,where can i find all the file?
Thank you to alla for the help and congratulations for this fantastic forum
zetax said:
Hello
I.m new in the forum,i'm writing from italy and here i'can't find a valid and perfect forum like this,
yesterday i had my new Uk Vpa Compact 1605(Herm200) , with
Ipl 1.01
Spl 1.09
Os 5.1.461(Build 15671.3.3.0)
Rom vers. 2.07.161.1 released the 2nd of giune 2007
Radio 1.32.00.00
Protocol 32.65.7020.09W
At the end of the day i flashed Hardspl with new ipl 1.04 and spl 2.10
and new official Wm6.
now my questions is.. Can i reflash in my Vodafone 1605 all the original rom ,spl,ipl,radio, Os etc. etc. ???
If it is possible,where can i find all the file?
Thank you to alla for the help and congratulations for this fantastic forum
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Hi & welcome!
Ok..understand your problem and this is your first post and maybe you thought, "aah nice forum, He WM6 that looks nice, lets flash it on my device" ..Right simple ah? But..what you forgot..is to backup or read more about flashing..You cant reset it back to the original (what you wanna call it) "firmware"...
Bram87 said:
Hi & welcome!
Ok..understand your problem and this is your first post and maybe you thought, "aah nice forum, He WM6 that looks nice, lets flash it on my device" ..Right simple ah? But..what you forgot..is to backup or read more about flashing..You cant reset it back to the original (what you wanna call it) "firmware"...
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Well, this is not EXACTLY correct. Check out THIS LINK for downgrade directions. You will need to get the original ROM from somewhere. It is possible that it is HERE IN THE WIKI. Chances are that one of the files there has the same Radio, IPL & SPL. You will just need to find the OS, if it is not in there. (In fact, based on the specs, it looks like the third from the bottom of the English ones - Vodafone?) To flash, you will need dutty's good nbh tool to unpack the ROM, becuase you will need to do the IPL and SPL separately from the OS and radio. See THIS LINK for that info. If you don't want to get into all the unpacking, you *could* do the SPL downgrade first, then the upgrade, but it is generally good practice to downgrade SPL as a LAST step since you lose the hardspl protection as soon as you do it. Finally, use the google search link in my signature if you need to find anything else. Good luck.
zetax said:
Hello
I.m new in the forum,i'm writing from italy and here i'can't find a valid and perfect forum like this,
yesterday i had my new Uk Vpa Compact 1605(Herm200) , with
Ipl 1.01
Spl 1.09
Os 5.1.461(Build 15671.3.3.0)
Rom vers. 2.07.161.1 released the 2nd of giune 2007
Radio 1.32.00.00
Protocol 32.65.7020.09W
At the end of the day i flashed Hardspl with new ipl 1.04 and spl 2.10
and new official Wm6.
now my questions is.. Can i reflash in my Vodafone 1605 all the original rom ,spl,ipl,radio, Os etc. etc. ???
If it is possible,where can i find all the file?
Thank you to alla for the help and congratulations for this fantastic forum
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Like Todd said it is possible.
Check out the links in my signature and read alot before actually doing so.....
That is a practice tip
The Mr VanX guide alias HTC Hermes guide has complete steps to do this!
Good Luck
Ok, tell me if i correctly understand..
I found the correct rom, after i have to unpack this rom with dutty's good nbh tool..(i have to remove Ipl & Spl?).
After the unpack i have to pack again the rom without ipl and spl and flash it in my Herm??!!is it correct? And in the end i have to change ipl and spl(is it a down grade?).
Last questions yet,
What i have to verify first that i start all this work on my herm to not brick my Herm?
Thank you to all again for the help that you are giving to me
All the best
I may have made it more complicated. That is the process I use.
Best thing to do is simply follow Mrvanx guides.
First downgrade the OS/Radio using THIS GUIDE
Then downgrade SPL/IPL using THIS GUIDE
That is all - as long as you have HardSPL, it is VERY hard to brick your device. So, do that last.
Is possible to flash only the rom i need following the guide, and leave my device with the current hardspl ipl and spl?
Thank you
zetax said:
Is possible to flash only the rom i need following the guide, and leave my device with the current hardspl ipl and spl?
Thank you
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Yes. The only reason to remove HardSPL is for warranty. Just for clarification, there is no Hard IPL, only Hard SPL, but I know what you mean.
Basically, 99% of the time most of us flash we are only flashing OS or Radio. SPL and IPL don't change often. Most cooked ROMs are released as OS only.
Ah ok perfect, i'm not interested to the device warranty, because i bought it on ebay from Uk, and there is no warranty on my device, so i can only flash os without ipl and spl..
Thank you very much fo all the help
<< ZX >>
Hey boy,
sorry for the up, but i have another question(s)
I have downloaded the rom that i need, but it is in .exe extension how can i extract from this .exe the .nbh file that i will decompile with dutty's???
2nd question, it's possible to downgrade radio rom? i put radio 1.51.00.10 in my device,but i didn't like it, because the 1.47 version
that i had was better of 1.51
Thank you for help
zetax said:
Hey boy,
sorry for the up, but i have another question(s)
I have downloaded the rom that i need, but it is in .exe extension how can i extract from this .exe the .nbh file that i will decompile with dutty's???
2nd question, it's possible to downgrade radio rom? i put radio 1.51.00.10 in my device,but i didn't like it, because the 1.47 version
that i had was better of 1.51
Thank you for help
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No worries.
To unpack the exe, just use winrar and open it up. You will get a RUU_signed.nbh and an RUU. Just use the nbh file with the custom_ruu.
Yes, you can downgrade radio to 1.47 safely. No worries. I tried 1.51 too - didn't work out for me either. back to 1.50 for me.
todd_jg said:
No worries.
To unpack the exe, just use winrar and open it up. You will get a RUU_signed.nbh and an RUU. Just use the nbh file with the custom_ruu.
Yes, you can downgrade radio to 1.47 safely. No worries. I tried 1.51 too - didn't work out for me either. back to 1.50 for me.
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Todd, thanks very much, i didn't know that with winrar was possible to unpack an .exe file,now i have all i need to flash my device with the hold or the new vodafone uk rom.
Tnx my friend
I have done the flashing, it works perfect.. now i learn the way, i can flash every kind of Os in my tytn following this way?for example o2(Uk) os can be put in my device?
Where here in xda forum can i find the software(for eample the software that shaps have included in his Os) for my device customization?like today home,weather widget, or the automatic operator configurator etc etc?
Tnx todd
hi guys..i have a qtek 9100 g4 unlocked by hard spl...can you tell me what means downgrade before upgrade and how can i do it because wm5 contains ipl/spl?daca imi poate explica cineva in romaneste ar fii perfect /thanks !
This downgrade means reverting to your stock ROM. You stock ROM can be flashed to your device. (However you should remove HardSPL first because I don't know if it will cause RUU to treat your device as a G3).
However if this is your first time of HardSPL and you are already using stock ROM (i.e. never flashed), you can go ahead to flash WM6.
sorry...misunderstanding
starkwong said:
This downgrade means reverting to your stock ROM. You stock ROM can be flashed to your device. (However you should remove HardSPL first because I don't know if it will cause RUU to treat your device as a G3).
However if this is your first time of HardSPL and you are already using stock ROM (i.e. never flashed), you can go ahead to flash WM6.
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1.i already patched with hard spl and i have a wm6 rom but before change wm6 roms i must downgrade to wm5 but i don`t know what is my old wm5rom and i suppose(but not sure)it was in german language so if i want to remove hard spl i must know for sure my old rom or there is another way to do that?
2.i don`t understand why i must downgrade everytime before upgrade to a new rom ,so if you enlight me i will thank you very much.
3.do you think the hard spl solution for ``unlocking``g4 wizards will brick my device?
....regards..
I want to back to the original rom too but im not sure i have already a cid unlocked g4 o2 mini s but the strange thing its when im in device info it says its wizard100 but im sure its a g4 so thats matters? thanks for your help.
so its there a problem if i go back to original o2minis iplspl or i have problems because in my device is wiz100 at the back of the battery said it is wiz200 what can i do please help.
UPDATE: DUMPED AND RECONSTRUCTED MY ORIGINAL VODAFONE ROM (NLD)
ROM VERSION: 1.31.172.16 - WM 6.0 5.2.1622 (build 18128.0.4.4)
Link: http://rapidshare.com/files/135512526/Nike_Vodafone_ROM_NLD.rar.html
SOLVED:
For me there was a great question mark about the steps to take, so I'll explain them here for :
1. Dump your ROM (if you want to)
2. Install HardSPL 1.15 MFG
3. CID & Security Unlock
4. Flash a new ROM
5. Voila!
6. Reconstruct your original ROM into a flashable .nbh file for backup en now go & enjoy this forum 'n' stuff!!
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Hello guys, first of all: great forum with a lot of info..
I'm a recent owner of the HTC Touch Dual (Dutch Vodafone branded)
I've read a lot of threads before posting, but some questions are raised: I'ts about flashing my Nike to the original HTC Dutch ROM:
After reading all threads about this issue I should follow this order:
1. install HardSPL 1.15 MFG, described in the "Nike SSPL, USPL and HardSPL" thread.
2. Dump my original ROM (or should this be step 1, cause it's deleted by flashing HardSPL?)
3. Unlock my device, described in the "Nike SuperCID" - thread, with installing the original radio-version --> 1.58.21.23S as suggested
4. Flash to the original HTC-ROM (dutch) which i've allready downloaded
5. Turn the dumped Vodafone ROM to a flashable ROM and donate it at this forum
6. Ready?
As I'm studying on this for 2 weeks now, maybe someone can confirm this steps to be right, because I don't want to completely mess up my phone, or suggest some better ways...
Hope to hear from you all!
greetz..
Device:
Niki-100
Rom version: 1.31.172.16
Radio version: 1.58.21.23
Protocolversion: 25.65.30.04H
solved & updated
for those interested...
How did you get it done
Dear wpostma,
Nice to hear that you got it done.
I am curious how you went to work.
Did you follow the steps in your first post?
I am still doubting if i should update my Touch Dual.
I have an original NLD ROM on it right now.
What is your experience? Is the phone really more responsive?
Well if I can make a backup of my own ROM then I can always go back.
Regards, KoBuster
nearly exact the steps a described in my first post, but first make a dump, it's not so hard and described in the WIKI
- the next you've to install HardSPL 1.15 mfg
- i had to unlock my phone with CID unlocker, very clear described in the CID thread
- now your phone is ready to flash any ROM
Funny thing: I wanted to flash the original HTC ROM but experienced some problems with that ROM and the ROMS provided, and the most of them being WWE instead of NL turned me to flash back my Vodafone ROM again.. but in fact the switch to another ROM is availible now and that's very pretty!
Maybe I'll flash the Lite ROM if it's available.
that's the fact...
do you have the original vodafone boot splash it isnt in your rom i need it so badley please somebody help me thnxs in advance
no I haven't my original vodafone splash screen, interested too anyways...
Hi! I read the guide, for the locking the SPL for the warranty, but they provide the 1.90 version of spl. But my original SPL version is 1.94. So, my questions are:
Using the 1.90 on the htc that was sold with 1.94, it can make any problems? (for the daily use)
Can I upgrade again at 1.94 for the warranty? If yes, where can I download 1.94 original?
I've read also other posts.... wich ask the same: "How can I backup my original SPL vendor?"
But they havn't any answers. So ok, I'm a noob, but I DON'T find a guide to this... so plz help me about it, link me a guide, 'cause maybe I've searched in a bad way... this is a big forum, and there's a person who know the answer XD
And did you try wiki?
TheXeno said:
Hi! I read the guide, for the locking the SPL for the warranty, but they provide the 1.90 version of spl. But my original SPL version is 1.94. So, my questions are:
Using the 1.90 on the htc that was sold with 1.94, it can make any problems? (for the daily use)
Can I upgrade again at 1.94 for the warranty? If yes, where can I download 1.94 original?
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Use the 1.90 spl in the guide, then flash your stock rom. stock roms include spl so the spl will automatically be updated to 1.94 or whatever version of spl your stock rom has. for example the latest official roms 5.XX have spl version 5.XX also.
Best regards,
Alc
@alternativ: sure, but I don't find what I really search.. or maybe I did an insufficient search
@alcadeias: really? thanks! There was a missing piece in the puzzle
alcadeias said:
Use the 1.90 spl in the guide, the flash your stock rom. stock roms include spl so the spl will automatically be updated to 1.94 or whatever version of spl your stock rom has. for example the latest official roms 5.XX have spl version 5.XX also.
Best regards,
Alc
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mhmmm thx a lot, but are you sure? If I don't installa an official SPL I can't install the rom, and if I put the original 1.90 the rom cannot recognize the spl, so, about your answer: re u sure?
TheXeno said:
mhmmm thx a lot, but are you sure? If I don't installa an official SPL I can't install the rom, and if I put the original 1.90 the rom cannot recognize the spl, so, about your answer: re u sure?
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yes i am sure. i know you want to be extra careful, so if you need extra reassurance you can ask Da_G or hilaireg. i recommend sending a pm or searching for a thread managed by hilaireg. he is very nice and to me at least he always replied even when i had noob questions . also he is very very tech savvy.
later edit: older versions of spl recognize newer versions. how do u think stock rom users upgraded from 1.9x roms to 5.xx roms. so you should have no problem upgrading from the 1.9 spl in the recovery thread to any newer version of rom (spl).
regards,
alc
It's normal if I upgrade to official HTC ROM, when I recover my data with Sprite Backup, (only) the version of the rom became the old version? But radio and protocol still remaining at the new version... it's only a bad indication or the rom is "switched" on the old rom? (after restore I don't need an hard reset, the phone just have an automatic soft reset)