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I know these things were better on my Wing and on my Mogul, but I can't imagine things getting any better on the Touch Pro. I mean it seems really hard to top...
hidavi said:
I know these things were better on my Wing and on my Mogul, but I can't imagine things getting any better on the Touch Pro. I mean it seems really hard to top...
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You are in for a big surprise....
Amen to that.. .LOL
I have tried (almost) all of the cooked ROM's in this Rapahel forum. Some put more emphasis on being faster and lighter than the stock and others just a better all-around package, enhancements and fixes. Each one and his own tastes with what they are looking for. There are also those who are just fine with the stock.
Trying out new ROM's is a trial and error experience and it takes time until you hit the one you like, but it is also fun and addictive... , I'm totally an addict.
If you are not quite pleased with performance or something about your phone and tweaks are not something that can fix it- you have come to the right place.
why do i feel like this thread is beating a dead horse?
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Any of these cooked ROMs really any better than the stock one?
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No of course not, this is a forum filled with HTC Stock ROM fanatics...
To be honest I always wondered, what makes them so special.
I mean what (except additional programs or OS build updates) they do "better" that I cannot do by just registry tweaking etc.
It would be VERY helpful if there was a list with comparing bias, extras etc.
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why do i feel like this thread is beating a dead horse?
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I'm feeling the same way. Surprised the thread has not been locked already.
Well if you guys say so...
My Wing desperately needed cooked ROMs cuz the stock one was so slow. Same with my Mogul, except that with that phone the cooked ones were faster but less stable.
I dunno if I want to try this on my new Touch Pro just yet. I need more of a detailed testimonial I guess before I decide to operate on my baby...
hidavi said:
Well if you guys say so...
My Wing desperately needed cooked ROMs cuz the stock one was so slow. Same with my Mogul, except that with that phone the cooked ones were faster but less stable.
I dunno if I want to try this on my new Touch Pro just yet. I need more of a detailed testimonial I guess before I decide to operate on my baby...
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perhaps its early and i am still sleepy. but it seems to me, you've just answered your own question. maybe i'm wrong.
but i will allow this thread to live...maybe someone will post a link to some wild benchmark screen shot or something.
I will have to say yes, the cooked roms are better than the stock one.
Mine is majorly faster than it was out of the box, the GPS works better, and programs are using less memory. Most things you might be able to achieve on your own, however most include updates to the drivers for the wireless, video card, os, etc that you would not be able to do yourself (or at least not easily)
Any of these cooked ROMs really any better than the stock one?
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Lol, yes. Its like a whole new phone. ATT stock ROM was so laggy I almost wanted to return the whole thing. That's just my anecdotal experience, next time I flash the stock ROM I'll bench it if you want.
CFC compressed TF3D and such, plenty of cooked-in optimizations contributed from all over the community that the stock ROM has no idea about, you can't replicate a good chef's ROM with reghacks alone.
hidavi said:
Well if you guys say so...
My Wing desperately needed cooked ROMs cuz the stock one was so slow. Same with my Mogul, except that with that phone the cooked ones were faster but less stable.
I dunno if I want to try this on my new Touch Pro just yet. I need more of a detailed testimonial I guess before I decide to operate on my baby...
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I also have a wing and a touch pro. I found the AT&T stock rom to be ok vs my wing custom rom. I then loaded a lot of the roms on the forum and seen how much better it could be. No overloaded os, way more memory, more gps tools, unlocked HSDPA/HSUPA, super fast speeds vs stock rom, working 3d drivers (on some but not all custom roms) and alot more changes. Try out RRE rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467592. Its the best rom I have every used on any wm device.
Well if you guys say so I'll go ahead and do it. I can't believe it gets better than this!
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Lol, yes. Its like a whole new phone. ATT stock ROM was so laggy I almost wanted to return the whole thing. That's just my anecdotal experience, next time I flash the stock ROM I'll bench it if you want.
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Oddly enough, I ran the stock Fuze ROM for a while, and I'd agree completely that out of the box it is slllloooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. I flashed a few ROM's ,eventually settled on RRE until the later versions started exhibiting serious battery drain issues. I flashed back to stock to wait for a fix for that and right now the STOCK AT&T FUZE ROM is as fast and stable as RRE, with all the great battery of the original.
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Lol, yes. Its like a whole new phone. ATT stock ROM was so laggy I almost wanted to return the whole thing. That's just my anecdotal experience, next time I flash the stock ROM I'll bench it if you want.
CFC compressed TF3D and such, plenty of cooked-in optimizations contributed from all over the community that the stock ROM has no idea about, you can't replicate a good chef's ROM with reghacks alone.
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funny you should say that, but a co-worker of mine did do that, he returned it shortly after getting it. I was able to convince him to get it again, and allow me to "re-flash" (that was after he played with mine and was impressed)
So how do I go about flashing a CDMA Touch Pro? I hear that the HardSPL program out there doesn't work with CDMA phones.
rzanology said:
perhaps its early and i am still sleepy. but it seems to me, you've just answered your own question. maybe i'm wrong.
but i will allow this thread to live...maybe someone will post a link to some wild benchmark screen shot or something.
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ROTFLMYAO, It is hard to get up in BK especially in E-NY. After looking at this thread, I think I am going back to sleep What time is it again? May be when I get up, this thread will be closed.
East New YOrk here too mang
ANyway, I figured out how to flash CMDA phones over at PPCGeeks. I will report back for possible ownage.
bad grammar, stupid question. Of course they are better, they have different drivers, newer applications, and have stuff added that can only be cooked in. Some of the stuff you can add through cabs and by messing with the registry but everything is faster cooked in
I have searched the forum, but I found some people saying I can do that. Some said the FUZE has different hardware and cannot be flashed into HTC official firmware. Which is the correct answer?
If I really can, what else should I beware of? Any thing will not work after the flash?
Thanks.
Yes you can...
For starters your keyboard mapping will be wrong, but that is easily fixed by any number of CABs you can find in the forum. You also won't have any of the AT&T special apps.
I guess the real question is "why"?
If you're going to go through the effort of flashing, it makes much more sense to flash in one of the cooked ROMs that offer more features.
---Rob
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Yes you can...
For starters your keyboard mapping will be wrong, but that is easily fixed by any number of CABs you can find in the forum. You also won't have any of the AT&T special apps.
I guess the real question is "why"?
If you're going to go through the effort of flashing, it makes much more sense to flash in one of the cooked ROMs that offer more features.
---Rob
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I agree with Rob - Why would you want to? Unless say you are modding it to include the front facing camera and want the rom to be able to take advantage of that. Other wise you will have to jump through hoops just to get it to work.
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Yes you can...
For starters your keyboard mapping will be wrong, but that is easily fixed by any number of CABs you can find in the forum. You also won't have any of the AT&T special apps.
I guess the real question is "why"?
If you're going to go through the effort of flashing, it makes much more sense to flash in one of the cooked ROMs that offer more features.
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Because the original HTC rom is thoroughly tested and, HTC did make it since they made the hardware i believe they know the best software for it as well.
No offense to the cooks and all but I have not come across a faster, smoother, bug-free rom than the "Asia Build 20764" released on march 16th.
Even though I like the cool look aof the custom roms thereis no competing with the performance of the original HTC roms.
I agree with Stalix. I personally just prefer the official HTC firmware. Apparently, HTC know their hardware and have working with their software in this field for long, they should have a more stable firmware. And I personally hate to see at&t logos in my phone.(does FUZE have those logos?)
Same idea when I install my PC, I would install Microsoft official version not those modded version. They may have bug or viruses due to their experience of modding.
So on the forum what kid of key word means it's official HTC firmware? I have seen hundreds of firmware here.
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I agree with Stalix. I personally just prefer the official HTC firmware. Apparently, HTC know their hardware and have working with their software in this field for long, they should have a more stable firmware. And I personally hate to see at&t logos in my phone.(does FUZE have those logos?)
Same idea when I install my PC, I would install Microsoft official version not those modded version. They may have bug or viruses due to their experience of modding.
So on the forum what kid of key word means it's official HTC firmware? I have seen hundreds of firmware here.
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They also do not turn on certain features. Take a look at all the power management features you can turn on with Advance Config. They skip out on a lot stuff so then they do not have to support it. If you have more things to support then you need a bigger support staff which is more money out the door for them...A ROM (like mine) based on an official release can be much more faster, stable and more enjoyable than a OEM ROM. Look at the TytN II...it can use the YouTube app fine but why do they not include it...
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Look at the TytN II...
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Let's recall that approx 10 months ago, the big breakthrough in this community for stable reliable 6.1 TytN II ROMs, was the release in May of 6.1 WWE by HTC. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise.
Nothing wrong with checking out (or using) the stock releases...
How can I revert cooked ROMs back to OEM HTC ROM?
thanks
I have done the flash!
Yeah I have done the flash to my fuze and the UK rom is the best way to go. I love the boot screen saying Touch Pro! You will definitely need the keyboard fix as stated earlier. You will need to find a UK serial so you can grab the rom. There is one in the xda archive. Also, get a calculator cab because the stock one is not always the best. They are also on here. When flashing the HTC rom it will take a couple of more minutes than the others. Mine was stuck on 11% for a 2 minutes. But it will complete beautifully. So also It is very stable. Let me know how you like it.
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Yeah I have done the flash to my fuze and the UK rom is the best way to go. I love the boot screen saying Touch Pro! You will definitely need the keyboard fix as stated earlier. You will need to find a UK serial so you can grab the rom. There is one in the xda archive. Also, get a calculator cab because the stock one is not always the best. They are also on here. When flashing the HTC rom it will take a couple of more minutes than the others. Mine was stuck on 11% for a 2 minutes. But it will complete beautifully. So also It is very stable. Let me know how you like it.
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When you did the UK Rom on your Fuze, did you loose the US 3G settings?
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Let's recall that approx 10 months ago, the big breakthrough in this community for stable reliable 6.1 TytN II ROMs, was the release in May of 6.1 WWE by HTC. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise.
Nothing wrong with checking out (or using) the stock releases...
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Yea but you have to also realize that all "cooked ROMs" are based off an official build in the first place.
Take a look at the ROMs available now for the KAISER; they are much better and much improved as developers are able to port updated applications to older devices, improving their performance, and functionality.
If HTC Software was so great, developers wouldnt be looking at other 3D drivers from devices such as the Omnia or the ATI 3D drivers, to improve their devices.
EDIT: To answer the original thread makers question, yes you can flash an HTC ROM to your Fuze provided you have HARDSPL'd your device first. The only thing you would need to change is the keyboard mapping which can be done by a .CAB
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Yea but you have to also realize that all "cooked ROMs" are based off an official build in the first place.
Take a look at the ROMs available now for the KAISER; they are much better and much improved as developers are able to port updated applications to older devices, improving their performance, and functionality.
If HTC Software was so great, developers wouldnt be looking at other 3D drivers from devices such as the Omnia or the ATI 3D drivers, to improve their devices.
EDIT: To answer the original thread makers question, yes you can flash an HTC ROM to your Fuze provided you have HARDSPL'd your device first. The only thing you would need to change is the keyboard mapping which can be done by a .CAB
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This. HTC might "know thier hardware" but that's exactly why you take their official ROM and modify it. Then I have my Fuze settings without running keyboard customization, better apps and tools that aren't in the official ROM, and tweaks to make it even faster. Best of both worlds.
i dont deal with cook Roms anymore, I got out of that business since the MDA Wizard.
Since then I have owned the Treo 750, ATT 8525, HTC TYNT II, and now the FUZE (touch Pro) and I have sticked to official release ROMS.
Its a personal choice really. I have had great experiences with Official Roms and I can do all the tweaks and add all the cabs my self.
So sad to see this Fuze forum flooded with so many cook ROMS. Everybody wants to be a Chef these days. I just feel bad for all the new bees coming in here and can't even decide which ROM to use
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i dont deal with cook Roms anymore, I got out of that business since the MDA Wizard.
Since then I have owned the Treo 750, ATT 8525, HTC TYNT II, and now the FUZE (touch Pro) and I have sticked to official release ROMS.
Its a personal choice really. I have had great experiences with Official Roms and I can do all the tweaks and add all the cabs my self.
So sad to see this Fuze forum flooded with so many cook ROMS. Everybody wants to be a Chef these days. I just feel bad for all the new bees coming in here and can't even decide which ROM to use
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so where would a 'newb' go to find a nice stock rom that isnt cooked? seems like all the roms here are cooked to some extent or another.
No worries with flashing Touch PRO HTC roms or cooked roms on the ATT Fuze
I am currently using WM6.5 for the Touch PRO on an unlocked Fuze with a Canadian 3G provider with ZERO problems !
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so where would a 'newb' go to find a nice stock rom that isnt cooked? seems like all the roms here are cooked to some extent or another.
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go to the Raphael Wiki page and will link you to the proper page for download
3g settings and link!
First off the rom for official download will be found at the following:
www.htc.com/europe
Then you will need the UK S/N code which is as follows:
HT833K018918
This was in the archive much props to who uploaded it however I will repost it as to the fact it was not easy to find. This will give you the UK rom! I love the video that plays at the beginning! It is great with battery life as well! So then grab your fuze keyboard fix and it is as if it were always a touch pro!!
Cheers and enjoy!
Sandman!
paypalbid said:
i dont deal with cook Roms anymore, I got out of that business since the MDA Wizard.
Since then I have owned the Treo 750, ATT 8525, HTC TYNT II, and now the FUZE (touch Pro) and I have sticked to official release ROMS.
Its a personal choice really. I have had great experiences with Official Roms and I can do all the tweaks and add all the cabs my self.
So sad to see this Fuze forum flooded with so many cook ROMS. Everybody wants to be a Chef these days. I just feel bad for all the new bees coming in here and can't even decide which ROM to use
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Well it is a ROM DEVELOPMENT forum. Having choices is kinda the point since which ROM to use is personal preference. Personally, since UC works well, I change between them quite a bit.
I've been reading through a couple of threads on this board concerning upgrading my XV6800 to WM6.5 and I have what may possibly be some stupid questions.
First - I'm the happy owner of two XV6800's so I was planning on using the not-currently-activated one as my guinea pig in case I brick the phone. I've downloaded what appear to be the most current upgrade files from theUnlockr.com and some instructions from that site. What I need to know is is theUnlockr a reliable site? Are these the most current files available? I'm currently upgraded to the 3.57.605.2 ROM and the 3.37.78 radio and I am looking to upgrade the HardSPL (which is what, exactly?), the radio (to 3.42.50 - which, if I am not mistaken, someone mentioned was eating battery life?) and the ROM using the version Unlockr has up as their latest favorite (RMverizonTitanWM65V2[1].1Heavy). I am pretty sure I can follow the directions that were given, but I'm hoping someone here can advise me if I should.
With all these updates running around everyone's 'kitchens' - it's hard for a relative noob like me to know which is the best update for her. I don't really need GPS - though I may load Garmin XT on my phone at some point - but I would like to have an efficient, elegant ROM on my phone that will not hog all my memory and will still give me at least all my current functionality (though hopefully more). Should I even be looking to update to WM6.5? Which update version do you folks think is the best for the Titan/Mogul/XV6800?
Thank you in advance for your patience and for the AMAZINGLY generous soul who has spent the time to generate these files! I went to the Verizon site and they don't seem to even remember what the 6800 looks like! And HTC doesn't have much either. I was amazed to find these sites. You guys are a godsend!
Ariel
Follow below just use whatever rom you want. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=33857
Thank you for the thread link. I've upgraded roms before, but it never hurts to have detailed directions like that. Good deal. However, what I was looking for was advice on whether or not the 6800 performs better under the available roms or if, in the experienced opinion of the developers on this site, it was better left as Microsoft intended? Does the fact that it only comes with 64 MB of RAM hurt it when loading WM6.5? Most of the new devices coming out with 6.5 have more than that and I wondered if I could get some advice before I jumped in. That's all.
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Thank you for the thread link. I've upgraded roms before, but it never hurts to have detailed directions like that. Good deal. However, what I was looking for was advice on whether or not the 6800 performs better under the available roms or if, in the experienced opinion of the developers on this site, it was better left as Microsoft intended? Does the fact that it only comes with 64 MB of RAM hurt it when loading WM6.5? Most of the new devices coming out with 6.5 have more than that and I wondered if I could get some advice before I jumped in. That's all.
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The Titan is a very durable device. In my experience you can flash it at least a hundred times..
So my advice is to try as many ROMs as you like. 6.1, 6.5, Light, Heavy, Naked, Stock. Whatever it doesnt matter. Just keep going until you find what floats your boat.
LOL! Well, I doubt I'll be doing it a hundred times, but I figured I'd try and save myself some mistakes by asking the experts who have.
BTW, I think you were the one who came up with the ROM I've loaded (2.1 heavy) - very nice so far! I'm still getting a feel for it and I haven't tried to load any of my own software on it yet, but so far it's very slick. Thanks!
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LOL! Well, I doubt I'll be doing it a hundred times, but I figured I'd try and save myself some mistakes by asking the experts who have.
BTW, I think you were the one who came up with the ROM I've loaded (2.1 heavy) - very nice so far! I'm still getting a feel for it and I haven't tried to load any of my own software on it yet, but so far it's very slick. Thanks!
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No problem sir. Glad I could be of assistance. My main computer is broke at the moment and I awaiting a new power supply now, currently using my spare computer (I dont have a spare 1000watt power supply to run my main pc for the banterers lol). Or else I would have my ROMs updated. More for you to mess around with. But the ones I have uploaded now should work out fine. I noticed in the nuetools folder though the leds shortcut is a folder. I fixed that though just have to re-cook and re-upload. Among other changes.
If I were to upgrade to the fix you describe, I'd only have to do the ROM again, right? The hardSPL and radio would be fine? See? I told you, stupid questions...
you are correct only the rom
Im sorry for posting this and request the mod to delete after i have read a reply ( 1 week),
Question:
I have a topaz and i wanted to trade it in for hero:
1) hero is on a carrier and is unlocked, should i go for it?
2) does unlocked carrier phones work fine in all its functions?
3) does modifications work? like custom roms?
4) Is it worth it cuz im sick of wm n i love android interface?
5) what will i be missing if i do decide to switch? (compared to wm)
@1) if it's unlocked, it should be fine on any network.
@2) Yes. Plenty of people on these forums have unlocked their phones with no issues.
@3) Absolutely! There are plenty of good custom ROMs out there (I'd recommend Modaco Custom ROM personally (hero.modaco.com). Depending on the software version of the phone, you root the phone and install a patched recovery. Then you can add a custom rom using a patched recovery (check the sticky-wikis if you want more details)
@4) Yeah IMHO it is miles better than WinMo. Watch a couple of youtube videos of the Hero though, as it doesn't look like stock android (HTC adds sense interface) but I think it makes it better. But a custom ROM will let you change the look too!
@5) Well, you'll miss the 'fun' of trying to poke at tiny buttons with your finger like on WinMo Seriously, I don't think there's much to miss. Once you get into android, it's pretty easy to do stuff, and the market is good for apps. (check out androlib.com for an idea of what's out there).
If you can, why not go to a phone shop and see if they have one out on demo to play with (Carphone Warehouse and T-Mobile) in the UK, both have a display model in pretty much all their stores. See if you like it, then trade in if you want.
What country are you in, if you don't mind me asking (to give you an idea of prices etc)?
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@1) if it's unlocked, it should be fine on any network.
@2) Yes. Plenty of people on these forums have unlocked their phones with no issues.
@3) Absolutely! There are plenty of good custom ROMs out there (I'd recommend Modaco Custom ROM personally (hero.modaco.com). Depending on the software version of the phone, you root the phone and install a patched recovery. Then you can add a custom rom using a patched recovery (check the sticky-wikis if you want more details)
@4) Yeah IMHO it is miles better than WinMo. Watch a couple of youtube videos of the Hero though, as it doesn't look like stock android (HTC adds sense interface) but I think it makes it better. But a custom ROM will let you change the look too!
@5) Well, you'll miss the 'fun' of trying to poke at tiny buttons with your finger like on WinMo Seriously, I don't think there's much to miss. Once you get into android, it's pretty easy to do stuff, and the market is good for apps. (check out androlib.com for an idea of what's out there).
If you can, why not go to a phone shop and see if they have one out on demo to play with (Carphone Warehouse and T-Mobile) in the UK, both have a display model in pretty much all their stores. See if you like it, then trade in if you want.
What country are you in, if you don't mind me asking (to give you an idea of prices etc)?
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anon ...that was an awesome reply lol you made my day... now all i have to do is sell of my td2... i hope i get a good price cuz i know this guy who is selling his he got it in sep and its like brand new, well kept.
Well about my location lets just say that its a place where dere is no htc so over here price ranges from $365 to $426 for used and $550 to 500 brand new
Ouch. That's pricey!
Here in the UK, I got mine for free on an 18 month contract giving 800 mins, 500 texts and unlimited (3GB) internet. all for £21.50 per month (very special deal. Was meant to be about £40 per month, so
That comes out to £387, which is US$625 by today's exchange rate, and that includes tonnes of usage!
Yeah. I'd get the Hero and trade in the td2.
hero tmobile
hey bro just wanted to ask im getting a hero on t-mobile... has there been updates for it and if i want to update my rom wat do i do n how do i go about it n do i need to take care of anything with t-mobile hero?
basically guy had it there n now he's selling it here.. so let me know if i should go for it
OK. So there's different versions of the G2 about. Some have the older software (1.76) and others have the newer stuff (2.73). If you have the older one, you will have an update available. See http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/help-and-support/index?page=home&cat=SOFTWAREDOWNLOADS for details (make sure you look at G2 stuff, not the Pulse )
But, T-Mobile are very slow at releasing their updates, so you might want to go down the custom ROM route, so you have a rooted phone and unofficial software. I run modaco custom ROM on mine (http://hero.modaco.com) and have done since the day I bought the phone.
There should be a version of Android 2.1 coming out in February, so if you want to get the update sooner, I'd root and install a custom ROM, so that when 2.1 comes out, you can just grab a rooted copy of it from here or modaco and run it. No waiting that way.
And if it was up to me, I'd get the Hero and trade in the topaz.
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OK. So there's different versions of the G2 about. Some have the older software (1.76) and others have the newer stuff (2.73). If you have the older one, you will have an update available. See http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/help-and-support/index?page=home&cat=SOFTWAREDOWNLOADS for details (make sure you look at G2 stuff, not the Pulse )
But, T-Mobile are very slow at releasing their updates, so you might want to go down the custom ROM route, so you have a rooted phone and unofficial software. I run modaco custom ROM on mine (http://hero.modaco.com) and have done since the day I bought the phone.
There should be a version of Android 2.1 coming out in February, so if you want to get the update sooner, I'd root and install a custom ROM, so that when 2.1 comes out, you can just grab a rooted copy of it from here or modaco and run it. No waiting that way.
And if it was up to me, I'd get the Hero and trade in the topaz.
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ok ive seen that there are some custom roms but to do dat dont u need to flash them?
n if i want to how can i and if im correct u have tmobile too ryte? so how did u do it? im really sorry for bugging u but im really excited but at the same time i dont wanna brick my phone lol so i need help with this...
I'm sort of a newb when it comes to what to look for.
Is there some kind of Fuze ROM test plan somewhere that I could run through? I would also do this for Android if there is one.
I flash different ROM's every day, so I have tried alot of the more popular ones and constantly look for and flash updates from all the makers.
Just curious, thanks.