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Does anyone know of software to edit mp3 files on the xda, cut bits out, join 'em up, save as different fomats. Just something to fiddle with on the tube?
Wow. Is that really functional?
Probably can be written, but probs would need more RAM than is available. So i doubt it.
Stick to using the xda as a pda + phone , let it add value to your life, dont let it become your life......... tempting sometimes i know..
use www.dbpoweramp.com for converting software on your pc.
use audacity (from download.com) for editing software on your pc
It would be nice, but ansaar99 is right - it should just be a PDA and phone, but we can dream...
my mate and I discussed the possibility of a music studio app like Reason running on something like this, graphics wise it wouldn't be a problem with Reason as it has the same screen shape, but the main drawback would be the power needed to process the audio, however wouldn't it be great to have a full studio on screen, with magnification bubbles when you need to tweak something........
dream on :roll:
I'll just use it to keep in contact and play my demos I think !!
just out of curiosity does anyone know if the processor speed is directly comparible to standard desktop speeds ?
I have a serious problem with orb/wmp
when I try to stream a video over 3g I recieve an error from orb saying that windows media audio and video are not supported by the Player!
when I use WMP it simply gets stuck and says paused.
I REALLY love Wm6 but I also REALLY love orb.
does anyone have any ideas? more importantly has anyone been able to get this combo working?
when Im off this week I will pull the registry from my wizard and try to compare the entries for WMv and windows media audio but some of those entries are cryptic.
I CAN get orb to work over WiFi
if you have this working over 3g please PM me a copy of your registry if possible.
TCPMP version .71 and .72 rc2 have this problem,.
Also I tried going through the source code for tcpmp, but there is no notation in the source so I gave up on that end plus I dont have the WM6 sdk anyways.
/** I can also confirm that Conduits pocket player simply hangs when attempting to stream 3-3-07
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I have been able to get Orb working with both WiFi and 3G and EDGE. I am sorry I do not know how to copy my registry. here is what I have been able to figure out. I have Cingular, so I have switched my connection to isp.cingular from wap.cingular and I have enabled the network on Windows Media Player for WiFI/Lan 1.0 mbps or more, those are the only changes I have made and it is working really well. I have Core Player but have never been able to get it to work with Orb.
thank you cvbesq post # 15
if anyone else can please confirm this, I have an ANR line and do not have access to isp.cingular
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I am able to confirm that WMP under XDA Live .20 will play both audio and video through orb. The Proxy must be disabled and a udp port seems to be required under options.TCPMP is still giving the same error as before.
thank you all who contributed. the next thing that needs to be corrected is tcpmp.
3-10-07
a possible fix for Slingplayer is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1164695&posted=1#post1164695
please let me know if it works
3-11-07
the above fix seems to work for sling player but not for TCPMP.
I'm baffled by this too, however I can't say that I'm terribly disappointed as I've pretty much given up on trying to watch videos on the Hermes crab a long time ago.
you know I didnt really have a huge problem with TCPmp with 1.34 or 1.06 just a little lag which I corrected by changing a setting in TCPMP, however not being able to watch orb is a big minus which is almost made up by HTML email.
I (and others) are having a very similar problem with Slingplayer. Looks like some of the codecs have changed?
If I have time over the weekend, I was going to try cookng up a ROM with the older WM6 codecs that were in the Wizard's ROM, 'cause they seem to be ok.
Don't know if it'll work though....
Great idea! Let us know how that comes along
Maybe stupid question, but have you added the plugins to play other format files? If you haven't.. get them here: http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/
this behavior exists in wm6 vanilla also but not in the wizard, I was able to use it on the wizard, u have to remember that the hermes uses an ati gpu so the wizard drivers may not work but try anyways! I personally think that the api must have changed.
This may be the same problem area as the SlingPlayer om WM6. If I understand correctly someone here has a Wizard with this working, could you be so kind and test out SlingPlayer on that same Wizard and see if it works. I am thinking the codecs may be here but not mapped correctly in the WM6 we have for Hermes since it was a beta after all.
Also incase anyone is looking for TCPMP in only a CAB install (I could only find the exe on google):
I do find it curious that it works with wifi, thats why I went through the networking source code but there is no notation and I am still a new code writer (it was probably above my head any way). I think its written in C++ if anyone wants to go through it the code is available at the link earlier in this thread. or the codecs may simply not be registered, which is why I think we should look at the roms from the wizard.
This is also the same problem in sling player.
I have posted this in many other places but it seems like no one uses orb WTF? how can you have a 3g Wm phone and not use orb!
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I do find it curious that it works with wifi, thats why I went through the networking source code but there is no notation and I am still a new code writer (it was probably above my head any way). I think its written in C++ if anyone wants to go through it the code is available at the link earlier in this thread. or the codecs may simply not be registered, which is why I think we should look at the roms from the wizard.
This is also the same problem in sling player.
I have posted this in many other places but it seems like no one uses orb WTF? how can you have a 3g Wm phone and not use orb!
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So you are confirming the WM6 on the Wizard runs slingbox?
it worked with Orb, im afraid im not in the slingbox club lol.
Ok, I managed to find a few minutes to cook up a Hermes ROM with the Wizard's WMP files in it. Didn't work.
Tried to do the same using the WMP files from a Universal WM6 ROM (which I know worked with Orb and SlingPlayer). That didn't work either.
Next, I'll have to compare all the registry settings...I may wait until Kyphur's next release though, 'cause if it's already working with the newer base ROM, then I'll just be wasting my time by fiddling around with this one (and I have precious little spare time at the moment).
My ORB works but I can only get sound to play.. i've yet to see video on my wm6
g.baltazar said:
My ORB works but I can only get sound to play.. i've yet to see video on my wm6
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which Wm6 rom are you using? Vanilla or XDA live? I cannot even get sound to work over 3g.
I have been able to get Orb working with both WiFi and 3G and EDGE. I am sorry I do not know how to copy my registry. here is what I have been able to figure out. I have Cingular, so I have switched my connection to isp.cingular from wap.cingular and I have enabled the network on Windows Media Player for WiFI/Lan 1.0 mbps or more, those are the only changes I have made and it is working really well. I have Core Player but have never been able to get it to work with Orb.
Watch out, if your not subscribed to PDAConnect plan and you change your apn from wap.cingular to isp.cingular then you will be charged per kb
As for orb, I have it working fine on WMP and XDALive. I think all I did was disable the medianet proxies and change the UDP port on WMP. It does go through Locating, connecting, paused for a brief setting then buffering and voila.
Ty Fone,
I know all about the PDA connect and do have that, but thx, what you did was essentially what I did to get it working.
I have had no problem using orb, as long as the proxy has been disabled.(using either vanilla or wxdl). But I can not get Sling player to work at all. The sling log shows an error with the audio codec....Man, I really miss my sling player....orb is just not the same
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Watch out, if your not subscribed to PDAConnect plan and you change your apn from wap.cingular to isp.cingular then you will be charged per kb
As for orb, I have it working fine on WMP and XDALive. I think all I did was disable the medianet proxies and change the UDP port on WMP. It does go through Locating, connecting, paused for a brief setting then buffering and voila.
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I never had the proxie on my connection, what port did u change UDP to?
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I never had the proxie on my connection, what port did u change UDP to?
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I just randomly chose port 1024 and disabled the auto speed detect process and set it to wi-fi/Lan.
Also forward the ports on your home router for orb so it will have a better upstream. Head over to portforward.com for help with that.
So I got my dock today and I've begun sampling remote desktop solutions including several RDP clients, VNC clients and Splashtop HD.
So far Splashtop seems to be the clear winner in terms of video performance, which is important to me as I'd like to at least be able to do simple things in games with high video demands (check the auction house in MMOs for example). The problem is that when I plug in a USB mouse or use the touchpad with Splashtop HD, there is no right click support- right click seems to be bound at some level to back in Android. I have not pulled the trigger yet on Remote RDP (paid) because I already own splashtop, so any comparison between the video on the two would be great, also.
So, questions:
How might it be possible to change the way android sees a right click from the mouse? If it were possible to make android see a right click as a random rarely used character like ` (tilde), there are ways to tell your desktop to interpret such a key as a right click (mousefighter comes to mind).
If the above proves impossible or unwieldy, is anything comparable in terms of video to splashtop?
I agree splashtop is pretty incredible from a video standpoint. You might try gotomypc? I believe they have an android app.
I didn't know about this right click issue, I've been using splashtop but I don't have my dock yet.
I'm sure there is a workaround...
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i use pocketcloud. The free version only allows one config but i just reconfig when i need to. It has a nice mechism for different mouse and keyboard functions but i have not tried an actual mouse with it. Not sure how good video and stuff is since i just use it to admin servers. It does pass windows sounds though.
Plz post in the Q & A forum..
Pocketcloud Free does support right click from an external mouse Sadly, de paid pro doesn't I hope they will upgrade soon.
I don't know if this would theoretically help, but in ICS there's a setting to change the touchpad right-click to long press rather than back. Doesn't seem to work for me though...
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So I got my dock today and I've begun sampling remote desktop solutions including several RDP clients, VNC clients and Splashtop HD.
So far Splashtop seems to be the clear winner in terms of video performance, which is important to me as I'd like to at least be able to do simple things in games with high video demands (check the auction house in MMOs for example). The problem is that when I plug in a USB mouse or use the touchpad with Splashtop HD, there is no right click support- right click seems to be bound at some level to back in Android. I have not pulled the trigger yet on Remote RDP (paid) because I already own splashtop, so any comparison between the video on the two would be great, also.
So, questions:
How might it be possible to change the way android sees a right click from the mouse? If it were possible to make android see a right click as a random rarely used character like ` (tilde), there are ways to tell your desktop to interpret such a key as a right click (mousefighter comes to mind).
If the above proves impossible or unwieldy, is anything comparable in terms of video to splashtop?
Long press left mouse button=right click in Splashtop. While that's not perfect it doesn't seem to be a particular problem, or at least in my use it doesn't.
I use this, and right-click seems to work just fine. Free and real RDP (not another program that needs to be installed on the desktop) makes it perfect for me.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.tux.client
Don't know how well video works, though. I've never expected video to work over RDP.
digimuzik said:
Don't know how well video works, though. I've never expected video to work over RDP.
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You might want to check our Shplashtop then. You can game through it.
I was thinking of the coolness factor of just having one device, a phone, to which you could connect an external display and have an extended desktop. I am not finding any reference to this on Android (only the MS Surface). From what I have been reading, and remember/understand (may be confused), Jelly Bean brought the ability for windowing apps. However, the apps have to be coded for the capability, unless you root your phone and installed an app that provided windowing for all apps. Also, I have not heard of the possibility of having an extended desktop in Android.
I would like to ask WHY? Why not have windowing and the ability for an extended desktop, on an external display? A bluetooth keyboard and mouse just follows. Does google have to play nice with the manufacturers that stand to loose from people only needing one device? Is there a reason I'm not thinking of? Most phones are fast enough for this these days.
At the turn of the century, I was running GPS software Deluo Routis on a Sony Vaio 505 Pentium 200Mhz laptop running Win98. The 2-D graphics were smooth even while playing mp3's through the car speakers. The mapping software showed the map clearly, and effectively gave me navigation. People have lost sight of how much you can do if you give up the bloat and bling.
Also, I am pretty confused with the merging of Android and Chrome. I never liked Java to begin with; my experience with it is in MS Windows, and it runs slow as molasses. I believe my phone would run much faster if they had not chosen Java. I understand this to be because you have an operating system running on top of another operating system. It just makes more sense to me to have less layers and run apps natively, for better performance. I thought maybe they chose Java for its level of security. Is the screening process for Google Play not foolproof enough?
I like the philosophy of Google better than Microsoft**, so if one of them is going to win, I hope it's Google. I'm hoping Google won't end up with a convoluted Android/Chrome operating system because Lawyers forced them to (the idea I get based on the latest news). I don't understand: do they want to keep their OS architecture simple, but are being forced to make the OS complex for different reasons?
**Apple doesn't even want to compete. They have never wanted to dominate, just make huge profits. Unless they break up the marriage of hardware and software, they won't win. Then again, if Samsung keeps dominating, there may not be much hardware diversity?
Oh, and my main question was: "Why not have windowing and the ability for an extended desktop?". Wouldn't that be a big deciding factor for anyone that wanted to simplify and just have one device?
Anybody? Tell me I'm crazy at least. There has to be a strategic reason, that Google does not introduce full windowing and extended desktop support.
Its coming eventually. though you could do it right now. Motorola tried something like this with their atrix lapdocks.
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E_Phather said:
Its coming eventually. though you could do it right now. Motorola tried something like this with their atrix lapdocks.
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Can you do it right now with any android device having a video port?
Well lets look at how we could achieve this with todays technology.
Input:
Bluetooth Mouse & keyboard.
Output:
Wireless display with support for older displays using something like Chromecast.
Graphical User Interface:
A secondary Launcher/Application (Which could potentially see companies like MS & Canonical developing their own UI's and Charging for them if required).
Home & Office use with one device:
Home would be the default UI, but when your device has used NFC to log into the office it would automatically enable your Office profile/UI for a certain length of time (requiring you to log back in after a set time or manual log out via another NFC tap).
This would be very useful as it would enable you to take your "desktop" environment anywhere with you and connect to any HDTV with Wireless display/Chromecast support.
Applications:
So if like me you are finding your phone to become ever more a better solution to your digital needs and you only require your desktop for apps which work better with larger displays (Videos & certain games) you will find this very useful.
Games:
Now games could become ever more better as they could be controlled using standardised control inputs (game controllers could use standardised input methods allowing you to select any compatible controller to best suit your needs) or even a driving game could allow you to see the game on a HDTV yet be controlled with the accelerometer for steering and the right of the devices touch display would be the accelerator and the left of the display would be the brakes for example.
More Business Solutions:
If you could wirelessly connect to the office display then show a powerpoint style presentation that would be great because the very device which stores the file would also be your controller to move to the next/pevious slides.
Media:
Music could possibly be stored in the cloud so when your on the move you can listen to your music as many of us do now, but when connected to a large display it could utilise the large display and speakers to show a music video too!.
Photos could be viewed on the large screen and the next one to be displayed could be select on the device (allowing the use to avoid showing anyone pictures which they don't want other to see - ie: pitcures of you and your friends whilst your parents/grandparents are in the room...).
The TV Guide:
The TV Guide would become a very interactive thing which allows you to see what is available on other TV channels without other people in the room being limited to viewing the content they are trying to watch in a small box in the corner of the display...
These are just some ideas of what is possible, but I know that you could do so much more with this and with 64-bit technology coming to many mobile devices soon that will make it so much easier for devices to process all of this data at once without any serious lag!.
I would love to see a group of developers on XDA team up on an open desktop (secondary) launcher to run alongside the users primary (phone) launcher. if there was a project like this with an open framework to develop apps for I'd be happy to start developing apps for that or separate UI's to run alongside my current (Phone/Android) apps UI's.
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Also remember that this could be utilised in other ways too eg:: connecting your device to your car and your device could deliver your navigation & music to your vehicles display whilst getting important traffic/weather news using your devices network connection!.
Isn't this exactly what the Ubuntu phone intends to do or have I got the wrong idea?
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Yes, but with Android already having a large ecosystem it would make a lot of sense to build upon that.
Chromecast is not "open" to third party apps. http://www.minyanville.com/sectors/...eeds-to-Tread-Lightly-With/8/28/2013/id/51502
Do they have a displayport version of Chromecast? *cough*
quote from: http://www.tested.com/tech/set-top-boxes/457036-testing-google-chromecast/
"Chromecast is also not a particularly good desktop mirroring option, either. It actually can't do full desktop mirroring, and instead works solely with the Chrome browser. In beta right now is Chrome tab streaming, which sends to Chromecast everything that can be rendered in a single Chrome tab, including web pages, flash embeds, and even full-screen MKV video files if you have VLC installed. I like that Chrome tab streaming works independently of what's showing on your laptop or desktop's screen--like with YouTube and Netflix, you can multi-task and switch to other tabs or windows while one tab is being streamed. The only thing that matters is the window size and screen resolution. Chromecast will automatically scale the aspect ratio of your window to fill up your TV screen, adding black bars on the sides to avoid stretching. A full-screen resolution of 1440x900 looked good on a large 1080p TV, but streaming from a 2560x1600 monitor at full-screen made the text unreadable on my 70" TV."
Wow... I thought only displayport was capable of 2560x1600 (edit: hdmi v1.3 brought this). Even if I hook it up to my 2560x1600 monitor, it won't really display anything but entertainment. Chromecast doesn't seem to be a way to have a monitor, to use your Android phone as a PC replacement.
AllCast !!!
http://www.geek.com/android/chromecast-reject-becomes-allcast-public-beta-now-available-1578674/
However, I still need to add some kind of wifi enabled device to my 30" lcd monitor (like with chromecast). Really, I don't mind a cable connection from my phone to my monitor, if that was an option. If Google continues to be closed like this, then I would go for Ubuntu phone.
Displayport:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MyDP#SlimPort
Any phones have this besides the Google Nexus 4? Actually, I'm not getting a new phone until I know what the hell will happen with Android / Chrome OS
Quote from: http://www.tested.com/tech/android/457205-mhl-vs-slimport/
"SlimPort's support for the DisplayPort standard--specifically Mobility DisplayPort--means it can output video at the same 4K resolution as MHL, though not via HDMI (yet, anyway). And here SlimPort hasn't really made good on its potential, yet; though it's based on the flexible DisplayPort standard, the only SlimPort adapters currently available are for VGA and HDMI connectors. The upshot is that you won't be plugging a Nexus 7 into a 1440p DisplayPort computer monitor anytime soon." http://www.slimportconnect.com/
Chromecast May Get Screen Mirroring With Android 4.4.1
Evidence in Android 4.4.1 indicates that screen mirroring is coming to Chromecast.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/chromecast-google-screen-mirroring-kitkat-android,25345.html
It could start with mirroring a primary display, but gradually result in mirroring something that a GPU has rendered for a secondary display.
A dock from Samsung Galaxy phones. Has USB ports, HDMI, and audio.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
mraeryceos said:
A dock from Samsung Galaxy phones. Has USB ports, HDMI, and audio.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
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I tried that myself with my previous Galaxy S4 (i9500), It was a great dock and when I connected my wireless KB & Mouse USB dongle & connected the HDMI to my PC monitor it was a good experience when doing things like playing GTA3 on the bigger screen (it was better than the windows version in some ways).
But the device just needed a separate home screen UI to be output to the PC screen to look perfect and to work better with the KB & Mouse input type.
It shouldn't be too difficult to make a UI that simply changes the size of some buttons to a smaller size, enabling more widgets to fit on the home screen and if they could simply force the apps to run in either windowed or full screen that would enable better multi-tasking, then the browsers would just need a small update to detect if the device is running in Desktop Mode if so, then simply zoom out of the page a little to emulate the desktop browser experience.
Just a few ideas... If Google's Android team are reading this, I would recommend that you get that dock to experiment with for future Android builds.
Especially now that OS' like Ubuntu Phone are looking at going down this road of the one device fits all computational needs.
Rather than creating a new thread I thought that it would appropriate to bring this topic back up after the recent announcements that several OEM's have made, that they will be releasing desktops with Android as their Primary/Secondary OS.
I hope that this pushes Google into creating a dedicated desktop UI in the future.