Hi Everyone,
and greetings, this is my first post here. I'm done with the Wiki, read through all the stickies, ROM and radio threads, and I also searched the forum for info. I'm very thankful for everyone contributing to the this forum, and appreciate the hard work of the cooks.
Sorry for opening a new thread for this one, but I have found nothing in connection with it.
I own a Sunnysoft Interwrite localized (hungarian) HTC Touch PRO T7272 device with the shipped multilanguage WWE ROM (1.90.401.1 WWE 08/01/08 ROM, 1.02.25.19 radio, 52.33.25.17U PR, 1.90.401.101 EXTPKG), and i'd like to decide whether it's worth for me to flash and try cooked ROMs or not.
My baseline is "if the damn thing works, don' f*ck with it" /(c) the famous problem solving flowchart/, however I'm not satisfied with the device performance and speed, and I'm curious if it can be improved.
Objectives:
improve device ROM performance, speed
improve radio,
implement performance tweaks,
install some cool apps,
_but_ somehow retain hungarian localization,
warranty is not in focus so hard-SPL can go,
but I don't want to mess with security unlock (so other device radios are out).
To make my decision, I have my questions, still unanswered (excuse me if it's a bit lengthy):
1. Do cooked WWE ROMs (T.i.R., Elite, PROven, ROMeOS I've considered so far), support localization in my language in any way (TF3D menus, and the WM 6.1 also), i. e. will I be able to select a localized language?
2. Is it possible (and is it worth it) to apply Sunnysoft Interwrite localization after flashing the above ROMs, or do the packages contain this Sunnysoft app at all? If so, will applying localization this way deteriorate performace significnatly, thus reverting it back to the level of the shipped ROM?
3. Does the linked reconstructed 1.90.401.1 WWE multilingual ROM have the Sunnysoft localization, so that if I'd like to return to the stock ROM by flashing this reconstucted one, will I be able to get my device in to the shipped localized state? (This is the _most important_ question, because it gives a sense of safety for trying cooked ROMs, and as I read olnly experiencing will tell which one works best)
4. If, after the above questions answered, I decide not to mess with cooked ROMs, what are the options for improving performance without flashing ROMs (i. e. solely with performance tweaks, registry settings new cabs, etc.)? Is there any chance to achieve the same performance results through these solutions?
5. Are there any risk in trying only upgrade radios, for example missing or incomatipble mobile network setinngs etc., or it can only be the case if these radios are applied with a cooked ROM?
Thank you, and any answer or help is highly appreciated.
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Current bootloader readings:
RAPH1000
SPL-1.90.0000
MicroP-Raph (LED) v13
MicroP-Raph (KEY) v5
PSOC-Raph STAGE_CVT v0x36
Serial
OK I'll try again...
Could somebody please help me with this? Anybody?
the beauty of a cooked rom is that they remove junk that many people don't want and add things which people do want. This may increase or decrease speed compare to stock rom depending on the rom. There are selected tweaks such as pagepool and cache size, but these tweaks may only be placebos. HTC connection setup should include your localization. You'll really have to test out the roms to see if they are really for you.
thomassster said:
the beauty of a cooked rom is that they remove junk that many people don't want and add things which people do want. This may increase or decrease speed compare to stock rom depending on the rom. There are selected tweaks such as pagepool and cache size, but these tweaks may only be placebos. HTC connection setup should include your localization. You'll really have to test out the roms to see if they are really for you.
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Thanks a lot for your reply, it helped with Q4. and I guess it's an answer to Q1. also.
If I interpret this correctly, this means that there is localization in these WWE ROMS, but does it include also the WM6.1 interface, and is it achieved through this crappy sunnysoft app?
And can you help me with my question about the posted reconstructed ROM (Q3.), will my device be in the same state if I flash this one back after trying some cooked ROMs?
Thanks for your help once again.
Related
Hi,
I just bought an ATT Fuze and want to "clean it up" by installing a clean ROM on it.
I've done a lot of search here but there is SO MUCH information that in the end i'm still not clear about what's the latest and what's outdated.
So i'm asking a couple of questions. Answers or redirections will be much appreciated.
- If I want to install a custom ROM, should I pick a Fuze ROM or a Touch Pro ROM? (I am not using the phone in the US so I don't need to stick to ATT ROMs). Is one ROM better than the other by nature?
- Is there a "ROM-Status Wiki" or somewhere where one can go and check what are the latest FUZE/TPro ROMs available and what are the features in them? Or is going through all the threads the only way? What if I get a ROM and its not the latest? because there are so many threads out there.
thanks
The Wiki has all the info you are looking for:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419746
humayunl said:
Hi,
I just bought an ATT Fuze and want to "clean it up" by installing a clean ROM on it.
I've done a lot of search here but there is SO MUCH information that in the end i'm still not clear about what's the latest and what's outdated.
So i'm asking a couple of questions. Answers or redirections will be much appreciated.
- If I want to install a custom ROM, should I pick a Fuze ROM or a Touch Pro ROM? (I am not using the phone in the US so I don't need to stick to ATT ROMs). Is one ROM better than the other by nature?
- Is there a "ROM-Status Wiki" or somewhere where one can go and check what are the latest FUZE/TPro ROMs available and what are the features in them? Or is going through all the threads the only way? What if I get a ROM and its not the latest? because there are so many threads out there.
thanks
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Im assuming that you are referring to Official (non cooked Roms)
The latest English Touch Pro Rom is 5.05 which can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478657
The Touch Pro Rom is better because it has better GPS signal and no ATT crap and likely to run faster.
You can also get the latest Radio Rom which is 1.12.25.19
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487994
The only you need to do is get the cab that convert the ATT Fuze hardware keyboard when running Touch Pro Rom which can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474192
Before you do all this you need to Run HardSPL on the Fuze which can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
This is a latest ATT Fuze 5.08 "Test Rom" so you dont need to install the keyboard fix cab
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487994
Here is some latest official Touch Pro ROM Asian Versions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494603
Anyway read through and make an informed decision for yourself. Everything else I did not list are cooked ROMs which I personally not a big fan of. I like the official ROMS and make the customizations myself.
Thank you both of you. Between your two replies, you've answered exactly what I was asking for.
Much appreciated. Thanks again!
Rom Location?
I bought my FUZE in the US. But I am using it in Asia.
If I slash it with an English Asian TPro Rom, what difference does it make VS a non Asian ROM?
nothing really same old stuff. you just have to set your regions and time dislay and calendar display format. and of course change the keyboard layout to accomodate TP ROm on Fuze. You better off using the Asian Rom if you are using in Asia cause the Radio Rom should work better.
once again, thank you.
Thanks to your answers, I am getting more familiar with Raphael and the ROMs and trying out stuff.
I also like to install Stock (shipped) ROMs and then make my own customizations. So I have flashed the WWE Asia rom and its working very well.
But now I want to install the new Rhodium TF3D 2. It is recommended for OS builds 21000 or higher. However the latest shipped ROMs are less than 21000.
So now my question is, how can I upgrade my OS build to 21000 without installing a cooked ROM? I know the answer is probably "no you can't" so my real question is, "being a person who likes to stay as close to a Stock Rom without going into cooked roms, what the best bet to achieve this?"
Thanks again in advance.
dont know of a solution
read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498424&highlight=2100
I'll give it a try. thanks!
How do i check the rom build, is the same as the rom version?? sorry fo the noob question
Settings -> System -> About
Should read something similar to this:
CE OS 5.2.21051 (Build 21051.1.6.4)
WinMO 6.1 = 5.2
ROM/SYS = 21051
AKU - 1.6.4
You can obtain additional info from Device Information as well.
HTH,
Closing thread guys..
Information on this is already available.
Peace,
Joshua
I like to install Stock (shipped) ROMs and then make my own customizations. So I have flashed the WWE Asia rom and its working very well.
But now I want to install the new Rhodium TF3D 2. It is recommended for OS builds 21000 or higher. However the latest shipped ROMs are less than 21000.
So my question is, how can I upgrade my OS build to 21000 without installing a cooked ROM? I know the answer is probably "no you can't" so my real question is, "being a person who likes to stay as close to a Stock Rom without going into cooked roms, what the best bet to achieve this?"
Thanks again in advance.
humayunl said:
I like to install Stock (shipped) ROMs and then make my own customizations. So I have flashed the WWE Asia rom and its working very well.
But now I want to install the new Rhodium TF3D 2. It is recommended for OS builds 21000 or higher. However the latest shipped ROMs are less than 21000.
So my question is, how can I upgrade my OS build to 21000 without installing a cooked ROM? I know the answer is probably "no you can't" so my real question is, "being a person who likes to stay as close to a Stock Rom without going into cooked roms, what the best bet to achieve this?"
Thanks again in advance.
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simple answer is no you can't. there are some roms out there that are very similar to the stock roms, but I don't recall them off the top of my head. look in the raphael rom section.
I strongly advise you switch to EnergyROM, its stable, DAMN fast, i was like you a week ago and then went ahead with trying a cooked ROM, believe me, you will NEVER want to go back to any stock ROM after using cooked roms, specially EnergyROM. Never!
Just flash it safely and do not forget to do a HardSPL BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING!
If you do not feel secure about flashing, like i was, then 1st backup your original ROM, and then go ahead with HardSPL and flashing
Best of luck and again, believe me, stock ROM is JUNK!
Cheers
You can extract these two files and place them in your windows folder on your phone. It should allow you to use the new Rhodium apps.
I have seen it work and not work when copying the files so use at your own risk.
On ppcgeeks FayFay made a stock sprint 21028 rom if you have sprint.
Heres the link:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=61966
Thank you for your replies everyone.
I think I will go ahead with Energy 2.0 and try it out. I was almost ready to do it anyways, this gives me the final push! I just hope its as stable as a stock rom.
Hi, I'm trying to find the best ROM for my P5500 (Nike, Dual Touch) I found the LILLY 1.7.1 WWE, and it's great, but English, so I'm shearching a the best existing ROM in french, and, what ROM you are using, I installed the Hard-SPL 1.22, so, I would like to have your help for this, 'cause I can't find a really good ROM, I tried the ROM with D3D integrated, but it was slow and didn't work...
So, thank you in advance for your help...
There is no best Rom. Everyone have to figure out the best rom for own.
Take a look at Netdrg's Rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498322
it's in french and new...
I agree with vcdwelt - roms are such a personal preference based on what you need and what they contain (do you want a clean,fast rom or one that's got all the apps included that you need).
It's just best to try some and see how you get on.
Thank for your answers, I'm actually using the netDrg ROM, but there are some bugs, and it's not Hardware accelerated, Do you know a good Hardware Accelerated ROM, and, if it is possible, in french?
Try D-trains Insmonia rom.
hummmmm
This kind off question is not welcome on this forum
always ends in a fight.
For this reason
thread closed.
Hey all!
So I've decided that I don't like the instability of my HD2 anymore, it's gotten to be quite buggy at times so I was thinking that a ROM flash would do the trick, so that I can start over again. I need to learn how to do it again, though, it's been a while for me.
The problem is, there's TONS of ROMs out there that I don't know what to do or which one to choose! There's just so many that I can't decide.
Does anyone have any suggestions? I value speed, functionality, productivity, messaging features and most of all, stability. Would anyone have any suggestions?
Thank you for your time, XDA!
to flash a custom ROM, yoiu will first need to download HSPL (the latest is version 3). if you search the forums, you will find the main thread. as i have a t8585, i can use any version of HSPL, but you should check on the main thread which one is compatible with your handset (tmous only works with 1 version). after installing HSPL, you can then choose your custom ROM. i think the latest version is HSPL 2.08
as you said, there are hundreds of custom ROMS. on the forums somewhere there was a comparison table of all the available ROMS, but it was out of date and incomplete the last time i looked a few months ago. personally, i would reccommend CleanEX ROMs as they are very fast and stable. there were 3 to choose from, but i believe one of the ROM developers has now retired from it, so that leaves 2 that will be kept up to date. personally, ive been using the DsE version (i have version 3.5). these are updated frequently to a point where i only update to major releases (version 2 to version 3 for example) and only update to a .x version if i am experiencing a problem that the new version fixes (hence being on 3.5 currently). the ROM has some things left out, so you may need to download some CABs to get some of the apps (i think there are about 3 apps left out, one of which is Microsoft MyPhone). you can still apply registry tweaks, but be careful if using cabbed versions (ive had a few that stop sense from loading) programs like bsb tweaks work as well.
depending on what stock ROM you have, you may also need to update the radio rom before installing the custom ROM. the WWE version of generic ROMS uses very outdated radio ROMs. CleanEX ROMs require radio 2.08 or higher. there are several versions to choose from, but 2.12 is the latest, 2.11 seems to be the most stable, and 2.10 gives the better battery life. ive personally been using 2.11, as 2.12 caused touch screen issues, but that may be because the radio was from a non WWE ROM
the only other thing you will come accross is weather to use WM 6.5 or 6.5.5. WM 6.5 is what the WWE ROMs use, which has the start menu at the top. WM 6.5.5 has the start menu at the bottom, but is more finger friendly with slightly larger buttons. performance wise, they seem to be the same. i have tried out both and WM 6.5.5 takes some getting used to, but is easier to use
I use ChuckyROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618787. It works pretty well and have had no problems with it.
THANKS for the advice, Matt. I've been looking for this!!
artemis, looks like stock, without the problems, only ROM ive used so far that I haven't had problems with, loved energy, but wont work with my phone, same with miri, only issue is the text system, same as stock rom, loads quicker, but still bit funny
there is no perfect rom, but let's say this:
eye candy: dinik & miri (WWE)
practical and smooth: chuckyrom gtx (WWE)
stable and with some nice features: Duttys crème de la crème (MULTILANG)
edit: maybe it's best to upgrade your radio BEFORE flashing a rom
HectiQ said:
edit: maybe it's best to upgrade your radio BEFORE flashing a rom
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i was about to add that to my post! some roms require newer radio versions, its best to check on the rom thread for requirements and install instructions. at the end of the day, rom choice is personal, ive tried duttys holy grail, but found it to be too unstable, ive tried energy, but had issues with sense lagging. cleanex worked best for me, but im sure others will say the same about cleanex as what i have said about other roms. generally, if its your first custom rom and you are a bit unsure about it, look for a close to stock rom, which keeps it simple. also look for names of experienced developers. all roms will have their own thread, with the features, whats been added, whats been removed, requirements, install instructions and faq, plus users will often rate/review the rom and post up problems and solutions. if you PM me, i can try and hunt down the comparison guide i downloaded (i havent been able to find the thread on xda ) and i can send it to you, this may help you see what some roms offer
Righty, used win mob for years, have just come from a TG01 to the HD2 (got tired of being the poor relation) and with it has come tenfold more options and different methods to do these options, so I'm after a little help filtering out a year or so's dev.
What I am basically after is a clean 6.5.x (the one with the start at the bottom) and the latest sense updates etc, but no real additions like changed icons, boot screens etc that is Android compatable (one of the points for chosing the HD2), which also leads onto the better choice of Android builds at a later date.
I have HSPL2 my device already (1.66.0000), but coming from other phones all the roms seem to require one radio stack or another (TG01 had them built into the rom, just one flash was all that was needed), so I am looking for the best shopping list to get my phone set for playing with if someone doesn't mind taking a bit of time out
My current favs are (from what I have found in the latest roms),
http://htcpedia.com/htc_hd2_miri_rom_22/reviews/rom-builds.html
&
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=692763
Running a t-mobile UK HD2 with the last official rom, I have read a few guides but as said each seem to come with their own idea of what to do :/
Hey there,
I would recommend you using one of the 'Energy' ROM's, as these are stable, fast and regularly updated. It also comes in a variety of 'flavours'. The Standard 'Reference' version seems to be what you are looking for:
Standard 'Reference'
•This ROM is mostly for people that want a close to stock ROM with the stock visual style. It's also perfect for doing your own customizations.
•A lot of the cooked in apps are removed in this ROM, the Start menu back to the stock 3 row style
•Sense and everything else is back to the default HTC green.
It may have a custom boot screen though.
However I would strongly encourage you to go for a fully custom ROM (Energy's CHT Dinik Glass is my personal fav) as you get lots of extra apps. I know the current version of CHT Dinik Glass comes with a built-in 'Launch Android' button so it is definately Android-compatible =]
If you choose to download one of these ROM's please ensure you pick a 23138 build, as these are the builds with 6.5.x (Start button at bottom)
As for the radio I'd recommend any .50 radio as these seem best for compatibility (and are necessary to use Energy's ROM's). I am in UK (Cornwall) using Vodafone and after testing various radio versions found 2.12.50.02_2 to work best for me (your mileage may differ)
To summarise: if you want a custom ROM that stays close to Stock, go for one of the Energy Standard series. If you want a custom ROM thats truly custom, go for the Energy CHT series.
Energy ROM thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
Radio thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787&highlight=radio
Hope this helps,
jwchips
ZedEx48K said:
I have HSPL2 my device already (1.66.0000),
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if your spl says 1.66.0000 then you dont have hspl on your phone.
.0000 spls are stock, they are included in teh hspl program to make removing hspl and returning to stock easier.
run hspl2 again, but this time choose 1.66.hspl in the dropdown.
jwchips said:
Hey there,
I would recommend you using one of the 'Energy' ROM's, as these are stable, fast and regularly updated. It also comes in a variety of 'flavours'. The Standard 'Reference' version seems to be what you are looking for:
Standard 'Reference'
•This ROM is mostly for people that want a close to stock ROM with the stock visual style. It's also perfect for doing your own customizations.
•A lot of the cooked in apps are removed in this ROM, the Start menu back to the stock 3 row style
•Sense and everything else is back to the default HTC green.
It may have a custom boot screen though.
However I would strongly encourage you to go for a fully custom ROM (Energy's CHT Dinik Glass is my personal fav) as you get lots of extra apps. I know the current version of CHT Dinik Glass comes with a built-in 'Launch Android' button so it is definately Android-compatible =]
If you choose to download one of these ROM's please ensure you pick a 23138 build, as these are the builds with 6.5.x (Start button at bottom)
As for the radio I'd recommend any .50 radio as these seem best for compatibility (and are necessary to use Energy's ROM's). I am in UK (Cornwall) using Vodafone and after testing various radio versions found 2.12.50.02_2 to work best for me (your mileage may differ)
To summarise: if you want a custom ROM that stays close to Stock, go for one of the Energy Standard series. If you want a custom ROM thats truly custom, go for the Energy CHT series.
Energy ROM thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
Radio thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787&highlight=radio
Hope this helps,
jwchips
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Thanks for that, give me a couple of areas to start with that seem to be default for most things, UK here too and the TG01 did seem to have a better radio signal on it than this current one.
samsamuel said:
if your spl says 1.66.0000 then you dont have hspl on your phone.
.0000 spls are stock, they are included in the hspl program to make removing hspl and returning to stock easier.
run hspl2 again, but this time choose 1.66.hspl in the dropdown.
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It does now say SPL-1.66.HSPL XE
I was just stating the original number incase it mattered for roms/radios etc