I'm a newbie here and considering the purchase of a used X7500 with WM6.0. The current owner has a problem with the bluetooth not functioning. I'm wondering if this might be a common problem with 6.0 and if the new cooked 6.1 (4 – if that’s the latest rom version) might solve such an issue?
Also, would someone mind directing me to the page that has the most popular /cleanest 6.1 rom? I’m tearing my hair out trying to figure out which is the safest/best one to use. I realize that such questions have been asked before, but it's still a big job trying to sift through all the possibilities. Perhaps a sticky including an on-going tally chart with download frequencies or something, together with tags that users could add about what issues their hoping to overcome with the ROM download?? Just a suggestion...
Peter (Bamse1)
Hard to say....
LATEST usually is better, generally speaking we have to choose FIRST the SPL
Unlocked AThena means SPL 1.2. The newest ATHENA (X7510) needs more ROM space so AP4 Team developed the AP4 ROM TOGETHER with a tool to increase the ROM space, and the SPL becames SPL 3.5.
WARNING: you can flash ONLY SPL compatible ROMs, this means NO ORIGINAL ROM is SPL 3.5 . You have to revert it back to 1.2 to flash any official rom
We have a sticky thread here with the ROM links, ALL WM6 or 6.1
Latest Micky's (5.1, 6.1) are the best (IMHO) 6.1 latest is WM6.1, stable build with manila 2d and newest Internet Explorer , little less stable than 5.1, rock solid. I use SPL 3.5, I like to have ALL the utility needed into the ROM.
You can choose sogarth base AND sogarth kitchen to do-it-yourself or IRUS lite-vanilla ROM (the AP4 vanilla)
I will suggest this roadmap:
Start with IRUS spl 1.2, then
Flash AP4, latest AP team release an you will have the SPL 3.5 too
Then check sogarth, or Irus Vanilla-Lite release
Michy 5.1 or 6.1 to check the manila 2d and the increased responsiveness
Wait for the next michy's release if you want really lite and newest build
Thank you for replying so quickly Sergiopi. Still, the lingo is a bit overwhelming for a newbie like me. For instance, one issue is confusing: You write that SPL 3.5 is intended for the X7510 but later on your roadmap you suggest AP4 (including SPL3.5) for the X7500. To confirm, this will not harm the X7500, correct?
If I understand half of what you say then I may 'liberate' the UNLOCKED X7500 with an OEM WM6.0 (from HTC) by
1. Flashing IRUS SPL 1.2 (No turning back now right?)
2. Then flashing AP4 (Question: is AP4 WM6.0 or 6.1?)
3. Here it gets confusing for me. If I understand correctly then "sogarth, or Irus Vanilla-Lite release Michy 5.1 or 6.1 to check the manila 2d" are all different update versions stemming from AP4?? For instance is Michy 6.1 a 'cooked' version of WM6.1, along with the rest of them?
I don't need everything tweaked to the max, just a stable and reliable system that has all the functionality the X7500 is capable of together with the basic apps... a modest aim don't you agree?
The cream on top would be to replace the stylus with TouchFLO 3D - is this possible with one of the cooked roms you mention? However, this is not really necessary - kind of gimmicky from one point of view I suppose. In fact, did I read somewhere that FLO actually slows things down?
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Thank you for replying so quickly Sergiopi. Still, the lingo is a bit overwhelming for a newbie like me. For instance, one issue is confusing: You write that SPL 3.5 is intended for the X7510 but later on your roadmap you suggest AP4 (including SPL3.5) for the X7500. To confirm, this will not harm the X7500, correct?
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SPL 3.5 is needed on X7500 to have the newest features in the ROM
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If I understand half of what you say then I may 'liberate' the UNLOCKED X7500 with an OEM WM6.0 (from HTC) by
1. Flashing IRUS SPL 1.2 (No turning back now right?)
2. Then flashing AP4 (Question: is AP4 WM6.0 or 6.1?)
3. Here it gets confusing for me. If I understand correctly then "sogarth, or Irus Vanilla-Lite release Michy 5.1 or 6.1 to check the manila 2d" are all different update versions stemming from AP4?? For instance is Michy 6.1 a 'cooked' version of WM6.1, along with the rest of them?
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If you have a "STOCK", SIM unlocked X7500, to flash a non official ROM you need to flash the SPL 1.2 FIRST ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846 )
THEN you need to upgrade the radio 1.57 or 1.58, I am using 1.57 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372904
THEN you can flash the newest OS, (ALL cooked ROM are OS only, no RADIO, even if I am not sure about radio in the sogarth one, and the newest RADIO is needed by WM 6.1)
1) SPL 1.2 comes from Athena Wrapper, you can revert back but isn't easy for a newbie..
2) AP4 shoulh be WM6.1 OS check the thread Michy's are WM6.1
3) NO, IRUS vanilla comes from AP4, sogarth ? (may be they used some common base ROM) michy's aren't from AP4
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I don't need everything tweaked to the max, just a stable and reliable system that has all the functionality the X7500 is capable of together with the basic apps... a modest aim don't you agree?
The cream on top would be to replace the stylus with TouchFLO 3D - is this possible with one of the cooked roms you mention? However, this is not really necessary - kind of gimmicky from one point of view I suppose. In fact, did I read somewhere that FLO actually slows things down?
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Touchflo 3d isn't available for athena, Manila 2d looks like (and works like) T3D, reducing available RAM and slowing down the system
Start testing, from your requirements I think you will like Michy's 6.1 (play with T3D clone and disable it after a while ) and the announced Michy's vanilla. AP team announced some news, but it was one month ago and they are still testing...
Well this certainly helps dry up the mist! The point about the radio seems like an important addition. I'm still not clear about one point however:
2) AP4 shoulh be WM6.1 OS check the thread Michy's are WM6.1 ... 3) NO, IRUS vanilla comes from AP4, sogarth ? (maybe they used some common base ROM) michy's aren't from AP4
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Again, my primary aim is to get the cleanest and most fully-functional version of WM6.1 with the least amount of steps or tweaking. Assuming that A4 is 6.1 (haven't checked yet) then why is it necessary (or preferable) to flash sogarth, or the Irus Vanilla-Lite release (of A4) AND, then, add Michy 6.1 (to check the manila 2d?) which is also 6.1? It sounds like Michy's 6.1 is the way to go (with or without the T3D clone) but I don't understand why you suggest to flash sogarth/IRUS Vanilla first? Is it to get 2D? But elsewhere you suggest that Micky 6.1 includes 2D? Finally, you also suggest adding the announced Michy's vanilla... Can I do this and bypass sogarth/Irus Vanilla-Lite? I guess I'm still not clear about the difference between A4 (sogarth/irus vanilla) and Michy's work, and how or why these apparently need/should coexist on the STOCK Athena/Advantage X7500 (ie. NOT Ameo/simlocked)?
There is another question about adding apps once the cooked ROM 6.1 has been installed. Somewhere I read that these ROMs don't allow new apps, so you need to get it right the first time or redo the entire process. Is this correct? I suppose the cooks have taken this into account with their ROMs, which is perhaps one reason behind their multiplicity?!
I appreciate your patience! This is all new stuff and I'm still trying to get my head around it.
I also wish to add a private message quote from Brau0303 on the topic that helps nuance the discussion:
We were all noobes at some point so no worries. As to the best rom (my friend that is purely subjective, I was fond of the AP Teams rom and the work done by MichyPrima, you will find two main flavors of rom for the Athena, roms intended for the normal 1.2x SPL and those intended for the 3.xx SPL the custom SPL/unlocker is required for any non factory rom flashing and the main difference between 1.2x & 3.xx SPL is 1.2x retains the factory rom flash partition, 3.xx re-partitions the rom flash area to allow for larger roms like AP-4 and above. you must be careful and please read all the documentation prior to flashing or you could damage your Athena.
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This leads me to a new question: Is there any value in retaining the factory rom partition or is it a no-brainer to reclaim the space with a 3.X partition? In other words, is it possible to have WM6.1 with the factory partition in place, e.g. in case one may want to reset the device to a factory setting for resale purposes?
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Well this certainly helps dry up the mist! The point about the radio seems like an important addition. I'm still not clear about one point however:
Again, my primary aim is to get the cleanest and most fully-functional version of WM6.1 with the least amount of steps or tweaking. Assuming that A4 is 6.1 (haven't checked yet) then why is it necessary (or preferable) to flash sogarth, or the Irus Vanilla-Lite release (of A4) AND, then, add Michy 6.1 (to check the manila 2d?) which is also 6.1? It sounds like Michy's 6.1 is the way to go (with or without the T3D clone) but I don't understand why you suggest to flash sogarth/IRUS Vanilla first? Is it to get 2D? But elsewhere you suggest that Micky 6.1 includes 2D? Finally, you also suggest adding the announced Michy's vanilla... Can I do this and bypass sogarth/Irus Vanilla-Lite? I guess I'm still not clear about the difference between A4 (sogarth/irus vanilla) and Michy's work, and how or why these apparently need/should coexist on the STOCK Athena/Advantage X7500 (ie. NOT Ameo/simlocked)?
There is another question about adding apps once the cooked ROM 6.1 has been installed. Somewhere I read that these ROMs don't allow new apps, so you need to get it right the first time or redo the entire process. Is this correct? I suppose the cooks have taken this into account with their ROMs, which is perhaps one reason behind their multiplicity?!
I appreciate your patience! This is all new stuff and I'm still trying to get my head around it.
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VANILLA-LITE SPL 1.2 means the cleanest, and no needs for SPL 3.5, BUT is an OLD WM6.1 Build. It means NO newest Internet Explorer, NO enhanced contact/messaging, NO rotation sensor enabled and some other bugs
SPL 3.5 means more complete ROM (more space, more built-in utilities) and a LATEST OS Build is commonly better
ALL ROMs allow the installation of new applications (may be you mean UPDATED version of the built-in applications isnt allowed, but a good chef knows the problem and use some tricks)
SPL 3.5 is a two way road, you can go back. My suggestion was... YOU choose the best ROM, and start testing (and stop talking ) flash some ROM and you will have more experience (and less questions )
Let me also add Lakeman's message reply:
I like michys roms and usually play with his latest creations. michy4.1 is reportably the most stable. there is a thread by sergiopi with links to all the roms at the top of the winmobile6 forum and i would recommend reading the beginers guide I wrote as well
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Also, thanks for your consistent replies sergiopi. One comment: I don't own a X7500 yet so unfortunately I can' t begin experimenting. In fact, I want to avoid experimenting by writing and talking on this forum! Isn't that the smart thing to do anyway, rather than brick a device?
Here is a recent follow-up from Brau0303. I asked him to clarify what the SPL is:
Yes much of this can be overwhelming, SPL is not actually directly part of the device OS (think of it more as a bios type component) and you have to have the special versions of the SPL to unlock the ability to flash custom roms) I think the upgrade to 6.1 is worth it. many of the basic roms will work on a spl 1.20 olinex device, but the more feature rich roms that are based on the x7510 version require the 3.xx spl because it re-partitions the flash rom space. hope this helps.
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You can also read more about SPL here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296432
and of course the wiki here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
Hi Brau0303, I've taken the liberty to post your reply on the public thread. I hope you don't mind. In the process I came up with a new question: is there any value in retaining the factory rom partition or is it a no-brainer to reclaim the space with a 3.X partition? In other words, is it possible to have WM6.1 with the factory partition in place, e.g. in case one may want to reset the device to a factory setting for resale purposes?
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Response from Brau0303:
Well if you go the way of spl 3.x you can only flash roms intended for 3.x, cmonex created a utility that allows you to go back to the spl 1.2x and standard factory settings/partition. I can say that it does work because i used it when I sold my Athena.
Cheers, BR
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have that much clear now. Thanks BR. I guess the main issue for me now is wading through all the lingo to decipher what cooks refer to when they label their ROMS (which ones go with which device/rom series). One question that is still bugging me - what is the relationship between AP4 and Michy 4/5/6? Sergiopi suggested that I flash both, but doesn't one overwrite the other? They are both ROMS correct? (As you write below, I only need one rom.)
Originally Posted by bamse1
Again, thanks for your reply. I noticed in your signature that it appears like you're running a cooked SPL with a stock ROM. I didn't realize it was possible to change the SPL alone and run a stock rom, if I am assuming correctly. What is the advantage of that may I ask?
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Originally Posted by Brau0303
Cheers, Peter
Well as I had said the SPL is not tied directly to the rom, the special spl allows you to flash cooked roms, you can not flash them with a stock spl (only allows flashing of released factory roms) here are the main components
SPL - loading the special spl version allows you to flash cooked roms (you can install this and still run stock roms)
Radio - you can flash a radio version without having to flash any other stuff (some roms require certian radio versions)
ROM - contains the WM OS and all the others required drivers and programs and such
Cheers, BR
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Checking SPL
Hi mate
I thought I would answer your pm here
You need to have the phone in your hands to do this , but from the beginners guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429013
"Check Bootloader Screen
Throughout this forum you will be referred to your SPL.
This is the Secondary Program Language and on your unadulterated ppc it will be 1.1
Olipro's original unlocker upgraded this to 1.1x but the unlocker above will change it to SPL 1.2
You can see if this has already been done by putting your phone into the Bootloader screen.
This is done by holding the camera button completely in and then pressing the reset button.
You will now see a red/green/blue and white striped screen telling you the device id and SPL version.
If you see SPL 1.2 , you are good to go to load any SPL 1.2 Rom"
further to this you may also see SPL3.5.
If you have this you can only flash SPL 3.5 roms
The bootloader screen is also where you can see what radio is installed
AP4 stands for Athena Project rom no 4
there is supposed to be AP5 in the works.
regards Michael
Hi Lakeman,
Thank you. Your post helps clear things up even more. I think I understand the progression from SPL 1.2 to 3.5 as well as the Radio upgrade. But Im still confussed when it comes to the what I think is the ROM side: AP4/5, Michy, and IRUS/vanilla... and left with 1-2 questions:
-Several have seemed suggested Michy 4/5/6 on top of or together with AP4/5 (see earlier posts). Sergiopi also mentioned a Sogarth or Irus Vanilla-Lite release. I'm just not clear about how these fit together, or if they should fit together. For instance, doesn't one rom overwrite the previous?
- Also, are AP4/5 and Michy 4/5/6 all SPL 3.5 versions? Does it matter?
I guess my main issue now is wading through all the ROM lingo and labels and how these (apparently) are used together.
Related
I've spent the last few days reading wikis, guides and threads about upgrading my Tytn, but I still have a few questions:
This guide describes a method for preventing hard-SPL from being overwritten with another bootloader. If I understand it correctly, this is only a problem with original shipped ROMs, and not with the ROMs cooked by the people here. Is this correct? Can I upgrade with any of the custom ROMs here without worrying about overwriting the bootloader?
Are the radio ROMs country or region specific or can I use any radio ROM from all over the planet?
Can I run into any problems if I try to downgrade the radio ROM? If I remember correctly, there was a a lot of trouble with this in the old days when I played around with the ROMs on my Wallaby (and I still had the future ahead of me).
Olipro wrote HardSPL so that it wouldnt allow itself to be overwritten, as far as i know you can overwrite HardSPL by using SSPL (the software bootloader which runs in RAM and not from the devices flash memory area as a normal bootloader does).
Dont worry.... upgrade to HardSPL v2.10 and then you can flash any ROM you like. Some carrier RUUs wont recognise the newer SPL so might not be happy with it. Depends on what ROM you wish to use.
Radio ROMs are pretty much universal however the best ones generally acknowledged are 1.47 or 1.48 (any variant)....as newer ones are unstable and seem to use the battery alot more.
Thanks for a quick and informative reply, mrvanx. And for the brilliant guides!
However, your answer left me with a couple of other questions.
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Olipro wrote HardSPL so that it wouldnt allow itself to be overwritten
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If Hard-SPL cannot be overwritten, is there ever a need for the method I linked to in my previous post? Also - I thought one of the benefits with Hard-SPL was that it can be removed (and the original BL brought back to life) by flashing an official ROM.
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as far as i know you can overwrite HardSPL by using SSPL (the software bootloader which runs in RAM and not from the devices flash memory area as a normal bootloader does).
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If I understand you correctly, you're saying that if I really want to overwrite Hard-SPL, I can do so using the SSPL, but upgrading with custom ROMs having SSPL bundled with them won't mess up Hard-SPL?
Sorry if these are stupid questions, but I'm a bit afraid of bricking the Tytn I'm currently borrowing from a friend
Update to HardSPL....safe in the knowledge that you CAN revert it back to stock if you wish, the details arent necessary dude. Go for it....its the best thing to do even if you dont change the ROM since the latest radios take advantage of the faster radio flashing technique in later SPLs.
You DRAMATICALLY reduce the risk of bricking the device by flashing HardSPL first.
Were you planning on using any particular flavour of ROM?
I have a thing for details, but I'll take your word and flash the Hard-SPL
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Were you planning on using any particular flavour of ROM?
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Currently I have WM5, so any WM6 would probably be an improvement. I'm hoping to be able to play around a bit with different ROMs as soon as I feel pretty safe about bricking. Some of the light ROMs look very attractive, especially these ones: K's Rom v1.30a Lite, Schap's WM6 Pro 4.30 ROM and Shamanix`s Grass v2.2.
I would also like to try the full version of both Schap's and kin0kin's. Especially the last one because of the auto installation feature.
But I haven't looked closely at all the different ROMs yet, so there might be others that suits my needs better. My only prerequisite is .NET Compact Framework 3.5. If you have a favourite, let me know
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I have a thing for details, but I'll take your word and flash the Hard-SPL
Currently I have WM5, so any WM6 would probably be an improvement. I'm hoping to be able to play around a bit with different ROMs as soon as I feel pretty safe about bricking. Some of the light ROMs look very attractive, especially these ones: K's Rom v1.30a Lite, Schap's WM6 Pro 4.30 ROM and Shamanix`s Grass v2.2.
I would also like to try the full version of both Schap's and kin0kin's. Especially the last one because of the auto installation feature.
But I haven't looked closely at all the different ROMs yet, so there might be others that suits my needs better. My only prerequisite is .NET Compact Framework 3.5. If you have a favourite, let me know
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Pandora Naked 6, by far the fastest and is also very stable.
You can cook your own ROM....follow the instructions in the pandora kitchen thread...its REALLY easy.
hi how do i get SPL 3.5 to run on my Athena? so i can flsh up the new Rom ?
hope you can help
thanks
lidan
lidan25 said:
hi how do i get SPL 3.5 to run on my Athena? so i can flsh up the new Rom ?
hope you can help
thanks
lidan
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You need to download AP 4.0 rom and run it as exactly told in the instructions, Follow them to the letter or you may mess up. Once thats loaded you can either run that rom or try the new AP 5.0 beta. once you have AP 4.0 on your athena you will have SPL 3.5 on as well. However you cant go back to using shipped rom's without using a SPL 3.5 type rom or swapping your SPL back, and I dont know how that is done.
Just read up first before doing anything!!!!
All the best
Jay
thanks
thanks i will look up for the info in hare so i will not have a problem to get it runing !!
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thanks i will look up for the info in hare so i will not have a problem to get it runing !!
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No worries, But I cant stress the read the instructions first bit enough. No end of people have had problems by jumping the gun, including me!! I didnt take out my SD card and by the time I had realised what had happened it was to late. You can normaly get the rom onto your athena if you mess up, but you usualy end up without WiFi. so then that has to be sorted. Pawel and Irus have made some very good roms on SPL 3.5 and irus has added an HTC shipped rom if you want to go back to basics.
Jay
AP 4.0 rom
so shud i run this rom update ?? is this Irus Rom ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390328
are shud i be runing on the 6.0 ??
what shud i run if you are me ?
can you post the the link of Irus Rom and what do i need to do so i will have SPL 3.5 on my Athena and will not kill my Athena !!
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so shud i run this rom update ?? is this Irus Rom ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390328
are shud i be runing on the 6.0 ??
what shud i run if you are me ?
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I'm not sure if you need WM 6.0 first, but if your ok with flashing roms then do WM 6.0 first!
Ive put the link you need on my post above.
And its a matter of personal choice if you want the roms or not. read the contents of them and make a choice. Pawels roms 4.0 and 5.0 are from the x7510 so about as good as you get. Irus roms are WM 6.1 so also very up to date. You do get a few minor bugs in cooked roms though.
Jay
i am with WM 6.0
i have no need to upged to it !!
but i was on to update to WM 6.1
and if Wifi will not work on AP4 so it is no good for me i need to know whats the best and will not be to bugy thats all !!
i have X7500
is AP 4.0
are Irus
will run on it ?
Flash AP4 - just follow the instructions and it will all work.
AP5 is still beta (but a very good one)
Or you could just flash one of irus' ROMS but I'd recommend AP4
whats the probleme with wifi in AP 4.0? i hare it isnt working
is thare a fix for it ??
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i am with WM 6.0
and if Wifi will not work on AP4 so it is no good for me i need to know whats the best and will not be to bugy thats all !!
i have X7500
is AP 4.0
are Irus
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You misunderstood, if flashing AP 4.0 goes WRONG then you end up with WiFi not working till its fixed! If you do everything right then everything runs well!
You will get a bug or two on any cooked rom, even shipped roms have them. but read the thread and you can see most have a cure!
Jay
As responderman said - it only doesn't work if you don't follow the instructions. Follow them and it works.
If you can't follow instructions don't flash your phone.
Igo 8 will work i did see a post in hare that thay say it may not work have you test'd it do you know any thing on that problem ?
man i think i am in to asking it that i am new with this 1 i had flsh't all my ppc but this 1 i didn't yet so i am like on a bit confused what to do and if i do it what Rom is best i know that i had Kaiser i liket the WM6.1 on it and for me to go beck to WM 6.0 is a big problem thats why i am in to asking all of that thing's !!
I think it's better to unlock only to spl1.2 and not 3.5 because spl3.5 device cannot come back to 1.2 at the moment. With spl3.5, you can only use ap3, ap4, and ap5, not not the stock rom.AP4 and 5 has many unresolved issues at the moment, so some users found themselves having to use ap3 at the end.
A smarter strategy is to go spl1.2, and you can use pk1, pk2, pk3, irus vanilla, irus lite, irus full, irus AP4, stock rom (many versions here), wm5 (technically possible, but I know of only one user who prefers that). Irus ROM is faster than AP4 and 5, according to a user who had used both. SPL1.2 leaves you with more memory too.
Ap5 in spl1.2 will very soon be available. Many spl3.5 users are waiting for the tool to come back to spl1.2, and they would love the chance to make this choice of spl once again.
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I think it's better to unlock only to spl1.2 and not 3.5 because spl3.5 device cannot come back to 1.2 at the moment. With spl3.5, you can only use ap3, ap4, and ap5, not not the stock rom.AP4 and 5 has many unresolved issues at the moment, so some users found themselves having to use ap3 at the end.
A smarter strategy is to go spl1.2, and you can use pk1, pk2, pk3, irus vanilla, irus lite, irus full, irus AP4, stock rom (many versions here), wm5 (technically possible, but I know of only one user who prefers that). Irus ROM is faster than AP4 and 5, according to a user who had used both. SPL1.2 leaves you with more memory too.
Ap5 in spl1.2 will very soon be available. Many spl3.5 users are waiting for the tool to come back to spl1.2, and they would love the chance to make this choice of spl once again.
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whats spl1.10.000?
if i have this what can i do ?
read this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2236522#post2236522
lidan25 said:
whats spl1.10.000?
if i have this what can i do ?
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Mate read this page! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2236522#post2236522
This guy had the same problem as you because he did not read the instructions
He solved it by reading the wiki and the links referenced.
We have told you what you are doing wrong as it is a common mistake.
Stop whinging and start reading!
My 2 Cents
Have a look at all the info on the several flavors of rom available for the Athena based decvices, choose the rom you feel fits your needs, take your time and follow the instructions (what ever rom you choose have a look at the ap4 wiki because it covers some issues that are WM6.1 related and are not AP4 unique) as with all cooked roms there may be some issues but if you follow instructions you should be fine (as already stated if you go with AP4 and upgrade to the new SPL 3.5 you can't go back for now, the AP team is working on a path back to the factory roms).
Cheers
BR
I'm having some trouble with one of the custom ROM's around here (not that it is not faster and richer than the original one but some applications are not working for me)
Could someone please help me revert to the original HTC 6.0 ROM?
I am using the 3.5SPL and so i guess this is why the HTC reflasher is not working
Also would radio version be a problem? I also have the latest radio version around; is this compatible with the old HTC 6.0 ROM?
Thanks !!
ubik said:
I'm having some trouble with one of the custom ROM's around here (not that it is not faster and richer than the original one but some applications are not working for me)
Could someone please help me revert to the original HTC 6.0 ROM?
I am using the 3.5SPL and so i guess this is why the HTC reflasher is not working
Also would radio version be a problem? I also have the latest radio version around; is this compatible with the old HTC 6.0 ROM?
Thanks !!
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I don't think anyone has converted the official HTC 6 Rom to SPL3.5 but dheerajjuneja has slightly modified it
see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2414269&postcount=25
If you want to go to the official rom you would have to use the spl downgrader (see the sticky links)
I think the official Roms reflash the radio so it wouldn't matter what radio you had
Why dont you try AP3
It is a good Rom and my wife has never found a need to change it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=2417083
lakeman said:
Why dont you try AP3
It is a good Rom and my wife has never found a need to change it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=2417083
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i've used AP3 before and it was a good rom.
But i'm trying to switch to something as plain and well tested as possible so that i stop having these random issues and incompatibilities (i'm on AP4 at the moment).
is there a way to revert the spl so that i can reflash the old rom?
thanks !
ubik said:
i've used AP3 before and it was a good rom.
But i'm trying to switch to something as plain and well tested as possible so that i stop having these random issues and incompatibilities (i'm on AP4 at the moment).
is there a way to revert the spl so that i can reflash the old rom?
thanks !
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This is the link that Cmonex posted to downgrade SPL http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405604 off the rom links sticky.
Honestly if you are having troubles you put yourself at risk of a few problems reverting and I don't think it is worth it.
Use the AP3 for spl3.5 that I linked above and you should be sweet.
Make sure you remove your cards and do a hard reset before and fter you flash to make sure you have flushed all the settings that may be causing you issues.
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I'm having some trouble with one of the custom ROM's around here (not that it is not faster and richer than the original one but some applications are not working for me)
Could someone please help me revert to the original HTC 6.0 ROM?
I am using the 3.5SPL and so i guess this is why the HTC reflasher is not working
Also would radio version be a problem? I also have the latest radio version around; is this compatible with the old HTC 6.0 ROM?
Thanks !!
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SOLUTION n.1
1) Revert back to spl 1.2 following the instructions posted here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405604
2) Flash any 1.2 ROM
3) Flash the original HTC ROM using SSPL as explained in the same thread
ALL (SPL, RADIO, OS, SPLASH SCREEN, EXT_ROM) will be the original HTC
SOLUTION N.2
Flash the WWE SPL 3.5 HTC Rom modded from IRUS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390328 or from
dheerajjuneja (modded also fro blackberry connect) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2414269&postcount=25
SPL will stay unchanged, the OLINEX 3.5
Well, earlier this morning while having SPL3.5 on my device i tried to reflash my Athena with the stock HTC WM6 ROM to see what happens; normally that didn't work and left me unable to boot
Now i tried the SPL Downgrader, but i need a running OS to do that.
So i went to the bootloader, and tried installing two versions of AP 3.0 that i have to get a running OKS... The ROMs install just fine, but i'm stuck in a reboot loop that keeps taking me trough the "tap the screen to start using windows" and the AP 3.0 automatic os customization
is there a way to stop that from the loop?
how do you proceed to carry on from now on?
Also, what are the ROMS that can be installed straight from the bootloader like AP3? Maybe another ROM with no ROM customizations and automatic reboot?
Later Edit: Tried the Irus HTC WM6 SPL 3.5 ROM from the bootloader screen and it seems to be installing...
Keeping my fingers crossed
PS: I'm trying to find a thread to find out more about what is a SPL, what does it have to do with the OS and the boot mechanism in WM, anybody know a good resource for that?
OK, It seems i got there; after the Irus ROM, i use the SPL Downgrader and than reflashed the original HTC ROM, and voila !
I seem to have got the HTC WM6 ROM with 1.50 RADIO.
What more do i have to do to get "all-stock"?
Should i use a vanilla SPL1.2 installer to restore the original SPL (i think i'm running the 1.2 OliPro right now)
as a matter of fact, is there any reason to restore the original SPL?
And... is Radio 1.75 better than the 1.50 in terms of WIFI stability? WIFI performance seems to be rather bad
i need rom for htc s711
i need rom original for htc s711 version of onbl 1.25.0000 spl 1.25.0000 cpld 04
Hi friends! and brothers in arms
I really NEED your help,and I would know to APPRECIATE it!
Before 2 days I became new proud owner of X7500(my old dream come true-change it for previous device Diamond)
These 2 days I have been reading all threads and posts about upgrading,but i am still CONFUSED?!Because upgrading Athena is much more complicate than Diamond or even my old Tytn2?!
This Advantage is second hand device(ex owner sold it my bro,who gave it to me-after i had gave him my 2 months old Diamond...I don't repent),and I do not know its upgrading history.
I see that its
WM6.1
ROM ver. is AP 4.0 Platinum
Radio vers. is 1.50.00.00
and in bootloader mode I get these infos:
ATHE100
IPL-v2.02
ATHE100 MFG
SPL-v3.50.Olinex
My real problem is interpretation of these infos?!
I have an idea to upgrade to new ROM WM6.5 MULTILANG R6.5 RC1 by MiChYPrima, and my main question is :is my Athena SAFE of bricking during standard procedure of upgrading,or I have to do something before that(e.g. hard Spl,or some other prevention of bricking)?
Thanx in advance!
Sory for my English!
Greetings from Belgrade, Serbia!
Drgrabez
drgrabez said:
Hi friends! and brothers in arms
I really NEED your help,and I would know to APPRECIATE it!
Before 2 days I became new proud owner of X7500(my old dream come true-change it for previous device Diamond)
These 2 days I have been reading all threads and posts about upgrading,but i am still CONFUSED?!Because upgrading Athena is much more complicate than Diamond or even my old Tytn2?!
This Advantage is second hand device(ex owner sold it my bro,who gave it to me-after i had gave him my 2 months old Diamond...I don't repent),and I do not know its upgrading history.
I see that its
WM6.1
ROM ver. is AP 4.0 Platinum
Radio vers. is 1.50.00.00
and in bootloader mode I get these infos:
ATHE100
IPL-v2.02
ATHE100 MFG
SPL-v3.50.Olinex
My real problem is interpretation of these infos?!
I have an idea to upgrade to new ROM WM6.5 MULTILANG R6.5 RC1 by MiChYPrima, and my main question is :is my Athena SAFE of bricking during standard procedure of upgrading,or I have to do something before that(e.g. hard Spl,or some other prevention of bricking)?
Thanx in advance!
Sory for my English!
Greetings from Belgrade, Serbia!
Drgrabez
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Anyone?
Am I right when I think that every needed step before upgrading new ROM is already done(cid unlock,HardSpl..)?
Thanx
It seems that you are ready to upgrade to michyprima 6.1 without needing to do anything before. Since you have "SPL-v3.50.Olinex" your device should be ready. Make sure to download the right version and for you is the one which clearly says SPL3.5:
this is the link:
===============LATEST VERSION===============
Download links - R6.5 RC1:
SPL3.5: http://rapidshare.com/files/22128552...1500_MiChY.rar
===============LATEST VERSION===============
You already have a cooked rom (AP 4.0 Platinum) so everything should be working good after.
Sorry for my English too...
Greetings from Greece brother!
Thanx MXracer!!!
U R great man!!
I did it!
Everything is working great!
I put Radio rom too, ver.1.58!
Now is time for "fine tuning" of device and software into it!
Thanx again MXracer!
I owe you!!
greetings from Serbia
You'll like the radio 1.58. I, and many others, noticed a very large increase in network data speed after that upgrade. A shame that the hardware supported it from the start but HTC has never officially provided an update for Athena owners.
To further explain the "3.50" MX talked about above, essentially there are 2 versions of the "file system" in the Athena. The factory version is "1.20" if I remember correctly. When AP 4 came out (here on xda-developers) those guys changed the file system so there would be more reserved room for the operating system. AP 4 was very large and needed that extra OS room, but of course the downside was less room for additional programs. That is the "3.50" you see in the bootloader. I still use AP 4 because it had so much built-in I've had to install very little extra stuff to work for me.
SPL 1.20 was the code given once the device was unlocked, can't remember what factory one was. It was all so long ago
Jay
responderman said:
SPL 1.20 was the code given once the device was unlocked, can't remember what factory one was. It was all so long ago
Jay
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To clarify:
1.2 was developed first to unlock standard X7500/X7501 and be able to work on ROMs for those devices. That ROMs were more or less a developed versions of first WM6 coming from various other devices as well as the original X7500/X7501 ROMs.
Then X7510 was released with WM6.1. The ROM was much bigger in space on the disk. X-DEVs (Mainly Pawel and his TEAM together with Olin and cmonx) have decided to use this ROM as a base for AP4. That is why OlinX group have developed new SPL3.5 which created bigger space for this new ROM. Those two SPLs are not compatible. If a ROM is made for SPL1.2, it shouldn't be installed on SPL3.5, and the opposite. However to switch from SPL1.2 to SPL3.5, you have to first install AP4. It is because AP4 installer has SPL3.5 built in. Actually, this is the only way to switch from SPL1.2 to SPL3.5.
If somebody wants to move back to SPL1.2, no problem. Cmonx has prepared special procedure for that. However one should never try to install ROM made for SPL3.5 on the device with SPL1.2 (unless the new ROM is AP4) or any ROM for SPL1.2 on the device with SPL3.5 installed already.
About Athe versions:
AThe100 is on X7500/X7501 devices. Athe400 is on X7510 devices. Those 2 devices look pretty similar, but in fact have big differences in hardware, and because of that, one should never try to install ROM on one of those devices, which was prepared for the other type. The difference is in storage and hardware keyboard. X7510 has flash 16GB storage, while X7500/X7501 have 8GB hard drive. Those two need different drivers. So if you try to install ROM for X7510 on X7500/X7501, you will loose your 8GB hard drive. If you do the opposite, you will loose your 16GB Flash Disk. Normally it shouldn't be possible because ROM installers should not let you do that, but some users here have managed to do this some how, and they had a problem.
Hope this helps a bit.
Hello, downloaded a WinMo 28244 build for my HD2 and imported in OsKitchen along with a v3.14 ROM WWE. So will my cooked ROM work on HSPL or do I have to select some other base ROM to work on HSPL?? I dont want to cook a ROM which needs SPL 3.03 to work since I have HSPL and I enjoy it..
[The Punisher] said:
Hello, downloaded a WinMo 28244 build for my HD2 and imported in OsKitchen along with a v3.14 ROM WWE. So will my cooked ROM work on HSPL or do I have to select some other base ROM to work on HSPL?? I dont want to cook a ROM which needs SPL 3.03 to work since I have HSPL and I enjoy it..
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way not SPL 3.03? nothing wrong with that.
Just use SSPL_RUU.exe for installing it and all is fine.
SPL 3.03 is working fine so do also Radio 2.15.50.14.
Edit way opening two threads with the same question? and adding the same question in a third thread? I mean ons will be enough no?
and just a question about the WM build. Way you choose the 28244 build instead of 29007? just a question.
@ OP,
This is now your main thread. The duplicates have been closed. Good luck with getting help with your question.
WB
kurt-willems said:
way not SPL 3.03? nothing wrong with that.
Just use SSPL_RUU.exe for installing it and all is fine.
SPL 3.03 is working fine so do also Radio 2.15.50.14.
Edit way opening two threads with the same question? and adding the same question in a third thread? I mean ons will be enough no?
and just a question about the WM build. Way you choose the 28244 build instead of 29007? just a question.
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Didn't know exactly where to create this thread.. Whether in Q&A or in Chefs' section. Moving on, read many posts stating that 28244 build has better battery life. Please feel free to suggest me any other build which has advantages over it may those be performance wise or visually. Also, I prefer HSPL as it gives more control on flashing 'Splash Screens' or 'Radio' separately. So again, will I be able to use 3.14 with HSPL without the SPL 3.03 without any performance issues?? Or should I choose another base ROM to start with?
wacky.banana said:
@ OP,
This is now your main thread. The duplicates have been closed. Good luck with getting help with your question.
WB
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Thank you
Build 2905 and 2907 are very stable and fast. (I don't have the impression that thy consume a lot.)
But personally if you would use the latest stock ROM 3.14 I would more suggest you SSPL than HSPL.
Honesty the included radio is good, spl 3.03 (beside the fact it isn't compatible with HSPL) is okay, and about the Splash screen, pff well what to say, peoples used there phone if it's turn on, the splash screen is a fraction of a moment that you will see it, and peoples don't wait to have a nice splash screen but preferring a nice, stable and fast ROM.
Thanks Kurt for your input. I will have to consider these points as well