I'm noticing that Helmi's starts with 50.22mb of free program memory - vs. only 47.46mb on the tital wm6 rom from sprint.. Any ideas as to why the difference? Helmi's rom has 29.92mb's free from the start - I don't think I've ever seen my Titan have more then ~20-22mb's free... (and yes, I'm constantly being told I don't have enough memory running my programs..)
Worth investigating?
-mark
I haven't had any memory full errors since I updated to the latest Mogul rom. On hard reset, I had 26MB free program memory.
--James
I tried hard to keep up with wm6, tried hard , all possible tweaks.So finally the other day, I thought of going back to WM5 and really it is much much stable, no soft resets, no hangups.Hard to get used to the wm5 interface as compared to the glossy wm6, but performance is what I desire, and now my apps open in seconds, memory leaks are minimal, audio in BT also goes well.
I really wonder, why WM is not fully compatible with Athena.All other devices it works like a charm, why not in Athena.
I think wm6 is quicker and more stable than wm5. I reset more often in the past.
Which wm6 ROM were you running? What applications were you using? It may be one or two applications giving you the problem.
Not much apps, I like to stick with the given apps.Use Windows Live, builtin Opera, sometimes may b NetFront, I do not play games, Skype, I use.That's it.
If u compare the speed of execution of these programms with other devices running wm6 such as Universal,Hermes, Kaiser, Blue Angel, and if we have the fastest processor 624 Mhz, it shd surpass the programe execution time.
WM6 I hv observed that, initially, it works well, but as the use goes on , it tends to slow down, and even it takes a lot of time to make a phone call, after I press "Talk".
I get 150 calls a day on an average fews Texts, few emails, 24 hrs connected to GPRS or Wi Fi whichever is available.
It is a suprise that Blue Angel reacts faster than athena to similar apps, and execution is very good and fast in devices like Hermes,Kaiser, Universal....all Running WM6, either official or cooked ones.
I really fail to understand, why such a thing with Athena.
Where do you install applications?
What does the sktools performance benchmark tells you about your card and MD.
How did you format your drives?
Do you regularly clear up the cache in opera?
How large is your contact database?
Sorry this seems like a so many questions, but there must be a cause of your problem which is not related to wm6. I say that because I've far far more applications than you, all running okay. I do avoid certain applications. Examples include the latest version of ilauncher.
No problems to me with your questions.Once I had decided to us a Virgin wm6..as it is, no apps, still the problem persists.You won't believe, but I wud have changed 5 Athenas so far..but the problem with the speed persists.
My contatcs data base is quite small, opera cache is by dafault is 2 mb, so it gets cleared whatever is more than 2 MB.
If same I use in the other devices as mentioned, I do not face any problems, so far BA and Univeresal has been the best performances, Hermes and Kaiser follow...and Athena is my primary phone, I do not use any other or second phone.
hdubli said:
No problems to me with your questions.Once I had decided to us a Virgin wm6..as it is, no apps, still the problem persists.You won't believe, but I wud have changed 5 Athenas so far..but the problem with the speed persists.
My contatcs data base is quite small, opera cache is by dafault is 2 mb, so it gets cleared whatever is more than 2 MB.
If same I use in the other devices as mentioned, I do not face any problems, so far BA and Univeresal has been the best performances, Hermes and Kaiser follow...and Athena is my primary phone, I do not use any other or second phone.
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Then I guess it must be a question of expectation.
I've just looked up. BA is using WM2003, isn't it? Well, that explains why it is so fast. I have a very old WM2003 device that feels like a speed demon too. That brings us back to the old debate of whether or not microsoft made the right move by going int persistent memory, which if I ask me now, I'd still prefer the old approach.
Your Universal has been soldered with additional memory, has'nt it? Do you think this is the reason why it is so fast?
If you've used so many units of Athena and found speed problem with every one of them, when nothing has been loaded yet, it probably means you're expecting WM2003 speed on a WM5/WM6 machine. I'm doubtful that going back to WM5 will solve your problem, because from my experience, WM6 does seem faster.
Not sure where this leaves you and not sure how else to help though.
Hi,
I know that and understand your motive and respect that.If u check carefully, BA can b updated to wm6 aku 7.7
Also I hv uni with 128 ram, but 64 also runs quite well.
Can u imagine I am replying to this thread from Opera Running WM 5
Crispy and fast enough..and I feel the differrence.
Anyway I will try oncemore and report back
I still havent found a WM6 device that can surpass the BA in raw speed (also with WM6)
uni gets quite close tho!
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I still havent found a WM6 device that can surpass the BA in raw speed (also with WM6)
uni gets quite close tho!
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In your expert opinion, why is this so? What is special about BA that makes it fly? Does the faster speed also apply to internet surfing too?
3rd day with WM5
-Only one soft reset
-Memory lowers to 70 Mb from 81 MB,use SK tools and rever it again.
-pmsn works great and fster.Skype is also more responsive.
-I think we all here shd give it a try and also research why this is so.Really WM5 wins as far as Athena is concerned.
Guru Try Dopod
hi GURU try dopod wm6
or try aptouch dual Virgin
Hi I've had my SGS2 since the day it came out in Canada. Until about a month ago, my phone was doing fine until I noticed it got a bit slow. My RAM usage when no applications are turned on is 300MB. It used to be 180-190, but it's drastically increased. Does anybody else have this problem? And if so, how do I fix
EDIT: The 300 MB is even after clearing RAM. it?
Are u sure thats how it was before? Mine has been at around 300mb+ since I got and also after flashing stock roms I think thats normal.
Yea it was regularly in the low 200s or high 100s. Now its always in the 300s with everything turned off. So is is just me and you or does anyone else have this problem?
Hey man , honestly you shouldn't be worried about RAM . Lots of threads here that talk about it and the thing that stands out the most in all of the thread is "Unused RAM is wasted RAM" . I wouldn't really worry about RAM because if you need more , it'll just take from the other used RAM . 900MB of RAM is more than enough to play a game , while listening to music , messaging , etc.
But what I don't know is whether more RAM uses more battery life . THAT I cannot say .
Correct me if I'm wrong .
Hello. First - sorry for very bad english. I dont been here long time. I have few questions, bcs I am curious.
I used before serious PC machines with Windows 2008 r2 Servers. Also Cent OS. So I am not so big Android expert but I know few things. I also used maybe 20 windows mobile phones before.
So I am limited with lang but I will try to explain problems. I will be little android hater. I haved HTC Tytn 2 for years. He haved 128 MB rams and with some lite/custom roms he run 40 apps without lag on Windows Mobile 6.1
Okay. My favourite Windows OS died so I must move on Android. Okay Samsung Touch Wiz / Android is cool experience. But only UI. I haved s2/s3mini/s3/s3 neo (at this moment)/s4 mini.
So why android suck ? On s2 we have android 2.3.6 (great) and mostly 4.1.2. First work incredible (so much free ram + older apps) nad 4.1.2 work great until last days. I mean today you cant run 3 apps and android close previous apps. Boring. 1 gb ram for what ?! Why Android consume so much ram ? For what ? Okay Android is cool, nice UI, but 1 gb on nothing ?!?! Okay. I understand foreground/background/cached process. I mean no matter how much new device you have.
RAM kill you !!! Later I buy s3 with quad - he suck. He consume more ram. Btw I root all devices and use scripts to debloat and I also alone remove apps/services. S3 is nice phone if you want to run 2-3 modern apps.
Cached process sucks. They slow down phones like hell. Okay I sold bad s3 and buy s4 mini.
Great phone 1.5 gb ram, solid dual core.... but we actually have 1.35 ram and 906 MB used on stock rom. Lol. I make serious debloat on 4.2.2 (brazilian) bcs stupid Samsung dont allow downgrade from even worse 4.4.2.
So after very serious debloat, scripts and lot of learning I make my best result. 312 MB ram USED from 1350 MB.
Super fast experience. I run 24 apps instant on stock debloated rom. I googled every stupid process. I removed almost everything expect contacts/sms/gallery.... I haved 9 icons. Only 5 active process. Super fast.
But after some time superamoled lose colors (i used him all day like PC) and my eyes was hurted so much. So I buy new s3 neo.
1.5 GB ram (1.35 available). On stock (no provider) rom he use 800 MB. From 1.35 GB. After 2 apps he is sooooooo super slow. And this is "smartphone" ?!?!?!? I cant run few stupid apps ? Bcs of lack of ram ?
Okay I modified script from s4 mini from Jelly Bean and I removed everything on Kit Kat. Result is 512 MB used from 1350. Okay. Not so bad.
I also save 20 GB old apps. They consume much less memory. So I installed same apps like on s4 mini with 4.2.2.
On s3 Neo with 4.4.2 they consume much moreeeeeeeee ram. Phone is super fast until you run browser + 2-3 apps. After that ram move on 1 GB used and he never user 0.35 GB. Limit is 1.35 GB.
So I am curious what is hell wrong with android ? If I dont have money to buy device with 3 GB ram I am in serious trouble to run smothly few android apps.
So from my personal experience expect pure CPU power, even Windows Mobile 6.1 with 128 MB ram do tasks lot better than android with 1.5 GB ram. Even my Tytn 2 run 30 much serious apps then simple android on 128 mb ram with no problem.
Every year we got new devices, new Android OS and more slower phones. I mean come on. For what android spend all my ram (expect stupid cashing) and make phone damn slow for every simple multitasking with few apps ?!?!
Only 2 android os what was good are : S2 with old 2.3.6 (old apps - blazing fast) and s4 mini 4.2.2 (serious debloat).
With my last phone s3 neo I am disapointed. He consume damn so much ram even if he is serious debloated (500 ram of 1350 usage). After 3 apps he slow down. For me is Android huge fail.
So I want to move on on Windows Phone. I always used HTC WM and Samsung Android.
I dont care for options and new os. I want to run super smooth browser, irc, image browser, badoo and to listen YT. That is all. So can someone reccomend me any newer phone (not new) what can do few simple tasks without lag ? Even HTC Tytn 2 work better than s3 neo (expect Popcorn movies - hardware). I really need new platform and good multitasking.
And why the hell Samsung make so good and bad phones in ssme time ? Amoled is best, specs are good but android sucks in every sence. Multitasking ZERO. Ram consumption WORST, performance downgrade after few even older apps HUGE.
I like s3 neo like phone. But I want simple stock os with 1 GB ram free ! Not to fill ram with 2 stupid apps. I dont have money for galaxy s5/s6. Android like OS on MY PERSONAL NOOB oppinion is worst experience.
Which phone to buy and what about Windows Phone ? WP look bad (ugly) but if he is half good like WM I will change OS. I only want multitaking sith minimal 10 apps running without problem.
Hello!
Recently I have been having issues with my phone. I have already tried multiple oreo roms from "The best gaming rom" thread, but none of them worked perfectly for over a month. Every one started to lag, and randomly crash/restart without SIM PIN input (right to the lock screen) when I am not aware of it at all. I am also having issues with camera which almost always crashes, when taking pictures - could it be related to lag? ... Anyway even with custom kernels, clearing cache and many other RAM management (greenify) apps, I am without succes. I own 2/16 model, but I always have at least 300 mb free RAM. Is my phone dying? Could it be NAND storage related?
Best regards!
Try with 1gb or 1.5gb of ZRAM
Ps: do you try update firmware with fastboot?
2gb ram phones just don't cut these days. The UIs these days are becoming very heavy, and too much for 2gigs of ram. Having owned 1 myself. I know they're only good for sometime.
Hey,
I own 3GB model and its lag hell on every oreo ROM. I did little research and come to know that most oreo ROM fails to get deep sleep. I tried Greenify but its not working. Then I check RAM usage and after opening few apps it express 2 GB usage and only 300 to 500 MB free left. So may be this is reason your phone lag on every oreo as It always use up to 2.1 GB RAM (as I remember, before it was around 1.6 GB on nougat)
I've got an aging Redmi Note 3 16GB/2GB RAM that has started lagging. It's just that 2GB RAM phones can't keep up in 2018. Your best bet would be going back to official MIUI 10 or old Nitrogen 7.1.2 Nougat for the 2GB variant.
Thank you for your answers. I guess there's no good ROM for oreo (yet).
+1 for the ones said before me: 2G of RAM is nothing, that was nothing when this phone was launched, sometimes I feel 3G is still not enough for everthing but I would be crazy if I had only 2G of RAM. If you go back to the original miui of RN3, that might be optimizd for the config, but forget any hope for using oreo or pie.
I own a 2gb kenzo, staying on a good N rom with zram at 512 mb, never had lags (I'm not a gamer).
I've sometimes faced some lags in O (rare) and P (more frequent). My impression is that 2gb varian has to run N roms.