I have searched for hours and did not see anything that relates to my specific situation. I have the HTC PPC6800 via a small carrier/service provider with no “smart phone” tech support. They have been great and I’m not interested in changing. They have obviously purchased the 6800 through a large carrier. I would like to know if there is any way via a registry editor, software, etc., that I can find out which carrier (Alltel, Sprint, etc) my 6800’s software is based on so I might be able to upgrade. I’m running WM 6.0, the ROM is 2.17.557.0 and the Radio is 1.64.00.
Thanks!
2.17 sounds like first sprint rom..Is it cdma?
Yes it is CDMA.
Previously I did try to upgrade to the Sprint ROM off HTC's site and it was 2 days of "hair pulling" to get it back working again. There is nothing that displays, or can be found on the phone to indicate there is any specific carrier. I was hoping that somewhere there might be an "indicator" in as to which carrier it is based on.
Thank you for responding!
I believe the roms themselves are all generic to a point, the stuff that makes them carrier based is the apps they include and the stuff that the carrier cab installs on custom roms. I know the carriers don't use the same cabs we have, but I would imagine if you use QPST to read and save your programming configuration and then copy down every single line of info in your EPST and then double check your dial up connection, make sure it's #777 that it dials, that you should be able to flash any rom and then write back your info with QPST and then re-enter all the info from EPST, make sure your dialup connection is back, and this really should get you back up.
I don't really have a lot of info on carriers, but USCC is like yours they use someone elses work and just build off of it. So I don't have a stock carrier to revert back to as well.
I know I flashed someones phone the other day that I just could not get QPST to read the info from, and was able to get it back online by just writing back my QPST info from my phone and just edit the fields that were account specific and then fixed a couple lines in EPST and everything worked.
So I believe my method I described above should get you up and running, but I could be wrong, might want to wait until a couple other experts chime in.
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Thank you! I will give your instructions a try after doing lots of research!
I just sent myself a picture message from a picture i took and when I recieved it the picture was kinda small and very very pixelated and choppy. Is there a way to adjust some settings to fix this?
Theres already a thread about the MMS issue somewhere in these forums. Seems to be the network scaling them down before sending/receiving.
K searched the forum but didn't find it so there's no solution then I guess
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K searched the forum but didn't find it so there's no solution then I guess
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Nothing I'm aware of, but the issue didnt seem to be with T-Mobile, it was with o2 (UK), so your issue may be fixable
I'm on o2 and have this problem. Please post if you find a fix!
I found the thread in question here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=546024
Looks like we need to find a way of editing certain hidden settings in the Hero to make network's servers think it's a recognised phone.
Just maybe this issue will fix itself for O2 customers seeing as they now offer the Samsung Galaxy i7500 running on Android...
just read that thread and it seems to be an O2 problem but im with T-mobile in the US would it be because they dont sell this phone for t-mobile in the us either?
It's not just an O2 problem, it should be the case on most/all networks who don't supply the Hero, including T-Mobile USA. The server defaults to the minimum resolution to ensure greatest compatibility.
We just need a way of either getting them to add the Hero to their mms server device list (unlikely!), or find a way to hack Android to report as an N95 or similar. The Windows Mobile people seem to have suceeded using this method.
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It's not just an O2 problem, it should be the case on most/all networks who don't supply the Hero, including T-Mobile USA. The server defaults to the minimum resolution to ensure greatest compatibility.
We just need a way of either getting them to add the Hero to their mms server device list (unlikely!), or find a way to hack Android to report as an N95 or similar. The Windows Mobile people seem to have suceeded using this method.
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Yup, and there will be a way, it just needs some clever **** to work it out.
I am just getting into playing with my Tilt2 and Android so this may be common knowledge but I hadn't been following the threads and didn't see it in any searches.....
What is the significance of the random symbols after the Tmobile on the lock screen? Like it starts out as a Tmobile#@ and then later is a Tmobile (0 and one it even said Voicestream.
Voicestream was bought out by Tmobile in the 1990s wasnt it? Is this something in the Android port or something in the tower signal around here?
I am running a Tmobile sim in my Tilt2 if that makes any difference.
It's based on what the tower reports. So whatever the tower is set to, will show on your phone.
I'm guessing carriers just lock the name. I know on the new RIL, CDMA users have to use this eri.xml file which allows us to statically set the carrier name. Perhaps you can do the same on GSM, if it's really that big of a deal.
Seems like an incredibly minor issue.
Only CDMA uses the eri.xml file.
The XDAndroid RIL just reports the name that the tower sent. The proprietary HTC RIL avoids this crap by having a table of operator names hardcoded in. Not sure that's a worthwhile approach, but I guess it avoids end user confusion.
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It's based on what the tower reports. So whatever the tower is set to, will show on your phone.
I'm guessing carriers just lock the name. I know on the new RIL, CDMA users have to use this eri.xml file which allows us to statically set the carrier name. Perhaps you can do the same on GSM, if it's really that big of a deal.
Seems like an incredibly minor issue.
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it is minor, just curious.
since this section is the only option for android under the Rhodium section I thought I would ask here.
Is there another section on xda I should be following as well? I really have enjoyed playing with the android from sd card setup and check this section several times a day.
If you're running Android on a Rhodium, this is the place to be.
As stated above - it's expected behavior.
I see stuff like:
ATT0
ATT8
ATTD
ATTA
Cingular
(Tilt2 with AT&T SIM).
As mentioned above - most native Android devices have databases in their RILs that take these names and remap them for user display. It's the main reason why the HTC RIL on native Android devices is HUGE compared to ours.
I have searched and searched and cannot find an answer. I recently acquired a Verizon Droid X2 and had it switched to my Alltel plan. Phone works great, but I cannot fix the dreaded no 3g no mms issues.
I have tried everything I could think of, but nothing. Wifi works fine, dialing out and receiving calls work fine, and sms text works fine.
I looked at the apn setting, which are not easy to find without the help of a 3rd party program on the market (apn shortcut), but now what I see is 5 entries for Verizon related services:
Verizon CBS
Verizon DUN
Verizon FOTA
Verizon IMS
Verizon Internet
But they all have a lock icon next to them, so I can't change any settings. I have tried creating a new entry but it doesn't save for some reason (my wife has the milestone x for alltel, works fine, I used tried to use her settings)
I have tried updating the prl, tried things like ##778 and all that, but none of these work for alltel.
Can anyone offer any help? Phone is almost worthless for me if I can have 3g and mms.
Thanks,
andyw123,
If you are subscribing to these service's that's something you should call Alltel / Verizon about. Verizon ownes Alltel I'am not sure if you know that.
{In early 2009, Verizon Wireless acquired Alltel, although the Alltel brand will remain until it is gradually phased out through the middle of 2009. Alltel was a large regional CDMA carrier offering service in 33 states, primarily in the south, midwest, and west. In 2005, the company acquired Western Wireless, a smaller carrier that operated under the Cellular One brand with service in 19 western states.}
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Thanks for the quick reply!
Ya, I tried that. They basically told me in a polite way that I shouldn't have taken a phone that wasn't part of Alltel's current line up and activated it on Alltel. Alltel told me that they could activate it, but couldn't guarantee that it would even work at all, which doesn't suprise me at all coming from Alltel.
I stopped at a total of 3 places, 2 alltel's and 1 verizon store. The first alltel told me they couldn't activate the x2 at all, but he tried, which messed up my current phone (he somehow deactivated it). Then went to Verizon next, they told me that I couldn't activate it at all because it wasn't part of Alltel's line up. Then I went to a corp store to get my old phone fixed, and somehow they were able to activate my x2, but with no data and no mms. Told me I was basically out of luck.
So, trying to decide if I should just sale the x2, which I don't want to do because currently the best phone Alltel has is the milestone x, which my wife has and it is dreadfully slow, slower than my old htc desire.
Anyone know of any other options that I might have?
Thanks
To access the programming menu open the dialer and dial ##PROGRAM the spc code is 000000
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Thanks Juhde,
I've already been in that menu, made sure ALL (except for my phone number) settings matched my wifes milestone x phone, and still nothing. I'm not an expert, but sounds to me like it has something to do with the APN settings, which I cannot seem to change.
Funny thing about this is, I can "copy" the apn-conf.xml file or whatever it is called from the system/etc folder on the phone, and it shows my custom settings that should work (the same file was on my HTC phone, which worked). But, when I use the program from the market called "APN Shortcut" to view my apn settings, it doesn't show anything other than the verizon defaults. I have tried to add a new APN entry, but when I click save, it acts like it did save it, but no new entry.
I'm wondering if there is another location that is saving these entries and somehow verizon has figured out a way to bypass the default location to save apn settings. Later, I'm going to search on the phone and see if there is another xml file that contains those settings.
Thanks for the help!
I'm no expert at this, but a lot of the times "replacement" files won't function unless the permissions are set correctly. I'm not sure what the permissions should be for that file but you might want to look into it.
EDIT: after taking a closer look, the app APN Manager seems to be a better program for adding an apn. Wither it works I can't say but when I used it to swap apn it stuck after reboot.
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This isnt alltel but i got my phone activated on another carrier.like you talk and txt worked. It wasn't until I flashed a few prl's and found one that got my 3g and mms working.mms still works spotty sometimes ,however.
I have 4 Verizon branded phones (mine is an x2) all using an alltel plan. I don't understand why you are having any problems at all
Do you mind give me some info from your x2? Like what the apn settings are set to and what prl you have?
Thanks!
i also have an alltel dataplan with an X2, no issues,
and no offense, but i dont know what is privileged info and what is not, so i wont be sharing
sorry
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i also have an alltel dataplan with an X2, no issues,
and no offense, but i dont know what is privileged info and what is not, so i wont be sharing
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WTF do you mean privileged info? I think he is just wanting to compare the numbers, what is he going to do with the info from your phone, besides compare to his current setup?
There is nothing that I can do with your apn settings or your prl version that you are running. This is just so I can see if my setting are the same as your working settings. I have compared them to my wifes Milestone X and they are the same.
On another note. Here is something wierd. I was able to erase all the apn setting from verizon (i think) and then I added the apn setting from my wifes phone, clicked on save, and then it went back and didn't actually save them.
The more and more I think about it, I am wondering if it is a PRL problem instead of the apn settings problem. Seems alot of people got this problem fixed on their phone by doing the prl change. Problem with that is, most people say to do a ##prl to fix it, that doesn't work on this phone. The only code I can get to work is *#*#program#*#* or something like that. So, anyone know of a way to manually change my prl on my phone?
The prl update number for Verizon is *228 since Verizon owns Alltel I think it's the same.
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Ya, thats it if you want to download whichever one that want to give you, but it won't let me put one on there that I got, if that makes any sense at all.
Basically, is there a file location that I can copy it to or maybe a way to install it like I would a zip from recovery or anything like that? I already have the file download that I want to try to use, but basically going to try a few to see if I notice any difference.
p.s. Now I think my phone is actually only ringing part of the time, the other times it seems to go straight to voice mail even though I have 4 bars and not in roaming...
Thanks for the input everyone by the way!
Sooooo you have dialed *228 and it didn't work? Verizon also has forced and secondary prl update numbers. Try *22898 & *22899. Also what does your network banner say? Alltel? Extended network? If it says Extended network you might call Alltel up and ask them where the nearest Alltel owned tower for you is, drive to its area, reboot and try to update again. 3rd party towers *usually* don't carry the data encryption key your phone needs to activate the data plan.
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Ok, well... I called both the other *228xx numbers, and I was greeted by alltel. I clicked on 2 and it said "Your phone already contains the latest update" and that was it. and as far as my banner, it doesn't actually "say" alltel, or anything like that. Just shows with the 4 bars, or a triangle if I am in roaming. I know from past that in a near by big city does have alltel towers around, and I was there but no difference.
So, still back to square one.
Thanks again for all your help!!
Another quick update. I finally found a way to update just the prl file. So, I tried 41003.prl and updated it manually (was not too difficult, just alot of trial and error). Phone worked just fine, but still no 3g coverage. Next I went to 31005.prl which is an actual alltel prl, but still the same effect - no 3g.
So, I went back to the latest prl from alltel which is 31011.
So, I am pretty sure that the prl file is not the problem. I guess now I need to figure out the apn setting issue that I am having, which is basically the default verizon settings are not working for me, even if I am in a verizon territory (like columbus ohio, big city). Using an app that was suggested to me on this thread I was able to delete the verizon apn settings fine. But when I went to create new apn settings, I went through it all and clicked on save, but it didn't actually save them. So, back to square one.
It would be nice if someone who is currently using a stock x2 from verizon on alltel would tell me what their prl version number is and their apn settings are (using an app like apn shortcut - found on the market).
On a side note. One difference I noticed. Looking at my old android phone (htc desire), it shows the same apn setting basically as my wifes phone, but the MNC number is 120, mine is currently set to 004, which is not changeable.
Several weeks later, and still no 3g data at all. Wireless works flawless, and phone calls work (actually phone works better than an alltel phone)
One thought that I had but not sure if I posted about yet...When I got the phone from the guy I got it from, he said he "thinks" it has a bad esn. So, I got it on a chance, afterall I could sell it on ebay for more than I paid for it with a bad esn. Anyway, if it does have a bad esn on verizon, I'm not entirely sure that Alltel would check it or even care about that. So, since alltel is owned basically by verizon, but still a separate company as of now, I wonder if verizon is blocking data access because it might have a bad esn.
I guess my next step is to call verizon and see if they can tell me if the esn is bad. I have tried a verizon store, and they were NO help to me at all, and actually very rude. Alltel just tells me that "I won't be able to get data because I am not using one of their phones" which is crap.
So, I think ultimately we have eliminated the prl possibility, apn is still my number one concern, but now I am leaning towards a bad esn. If that is the case, does anyone have any ideas on what I might be able to do with a bad esn? I know it is illegal to "change" an esn, and I don't think it is possible right now with the x2, but do I have any other options besides going back to my old phone (htc desire - not a bad phone, just want the larger screen and faster performance).
Thanks again everyone. Everyone has been alot of help!
If you wanna take drastic measures, search for a program called radiocomm, it's what motorola uses to program the radio.
A word of warning: if you change something with radiocomm and do it wrong the radio will become useless and the software is VERY complex to use. It could take you literally years to figure out but who knows, maybe you can find out exactly what parameter needs tweaking. I'd advise caution using radiocomm though. I just wanted you to know of the option.
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Ok, I don't see a thread for this question, but I'm sure there could be by this point. Please forgive my ignorance and point me to where and if this thread should be posted. I was given a Verizon based Nokia Lumia. I have been told it is called an Lumia ICON, but when you look at "about" its called a Nokia Lumia 929. In all my searching of XDA, I don't see a thread for either an ICON or the 929. I see lots of refs to a Lumia 920, but not 929. Bottom line, I wanted to unlock this phone for use with my carrier T-Mobile. In speaking to them, they will give me a T-Mobile sim card, but obviously I have to unlock it on my own. Is there a way to "root" this phone like I have done with previous IPhones? Is there a difference between a Lumia 920 and 929? What is that difference? Are the "UNLOCK SIM CHIP" web sites trustworthy at all? Is this the only option I have, to provide my IMEI number to them and hope for any unlock code from their databases? Like I said, I want to unlock/jailbreak this phone for use with my current carrier, but at this point would also be happy with just some basic enlightening of my ignorance. I'm currently using what "about" says is a Lumia 521, but every search I do on this number, anywhere, spits back only 520's. Is the 521 designation just to distinguish what carrier put it out. Is this the numbering system that Nokia/Microsoft uses to tell them apart? If this is all together the wrong place to launch this thread, please just let me know where I should put it. TIA for putting up with my stupidity.
Hey, it's called the Nokia icon you're right but it's official name is the the 929. But anyway pretty much all verizon phones come unlocked. So it should already be unlocked. The only thing is that you may not receive LTE as much. More H+ but it depends on where you live. And you might have to just mess with the apn setting for mms and Internet. But you can just look that stuff up on Google.
Source: I've used it for t-mobile too without doing anything
Edit: verizon*
I'm in the same boat but use att since service is way better here in Seattle. I can use it to call and text but not use cell data for Internet. Any recommendations?