I flashed my ROM to NAFT's standard version. Now my 3G icon is replaced with an "H". From my understanding this is HSDPA which is not supported by ATT(?). I never had the "H" with the stock rom. THe download does seem about 300kbps faster. What's the deal?
probably you have the "Fuze" and the New ROM you installed has HSDPA enabled thanks to the masters of this forum. H is what you want and it is supported by ATT. you should be able to get download speeds of around 700kb+ at some points during the day.
Oh okay. I wont have to pay extra for this?
The reason i am confused is i was searching that NAFT thread for HSDPA and people were complaining about poor service with HSDPA so i figure ATT doesnt support it just yet?
Also, i get near 1000kbps now. With 3g i got 600-700
No you wont have to pay extra for it. It is all under your data plan here is an article I found that has a pretty straight forward explanation of the differences hope it helps.
http://www.themarketingsite.com/live/content.php?Item_ID=5925
-McMex
xgm541 said:
I flashed my ROM to NAFT's standard version. Now my 3G icon is replaced with an "H". From my understanding this is HSDPA which is not supported by ATT(?). I never had the "H" with the stock rom. THe download does seem about 300kbps faster. What's the deal?
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The deal is that you didn't search before posting. Please refer to the General Questions and Answers for such discussion like this. Thread now closed.
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I just got the phone and I cannot find the right radio to use in order to get 3g speeds:
. What is the best radio to use in order to get 3g and HSUPA speeds over 300 kbps/sec? I use to have this speed when I got my AT&T 8525 that is ancient now. How do I get the speed I use to have off the 8525 on this phone?
Thank you for your responses in advance.
theonemarcus said:
I just got the phone and I cannot find the right radio to use in order to get 3g speeds:
. What is the best radio to use in order to get 3g and HSUPA speeds over 300 kbps/sec? I use to have this speed when I got my AT&T 8525 that is ancient now. How do I get the speed I use to have off the 8525 on this phone?
Thank you for your responses in advance.
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I have the same radio and get between 1Mbps and 2.5Mbps when I tether...
theonemarcus said:
I just got the phone and I cannot find the right radio to use in order to get 3g speeds:
. What is the best radio to use in order to get 3g and HSUPA speeds over 300 kbps/sec? I use to have this speed when I got my AT&T 8525 that is ancient now. How do I get the speed I use to have off the 8525 on this phone?
Thank you for your responses in advance.
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Do you mean HSDPA?
(downlink - tower to phone)
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HSUPA
(uplink - phone to tower)?
Is your posted speed from the downlink test?
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I have the same radio and get between 1Mbps and 2.5Mbps when I tether...
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well as u see i am new at this. i read a lot from these forums since i love the htc product. but i don't know how to tether or anything like that. i just installed the radio i just displayed hoping to be able to get 3g speed. but it stays at edge at all times.
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Do you mean HSDPA?
(downlink - tower to phone)
or
HSUPA
(uplink - phone to tower)?
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and the site u used to determine my speed i just found off google is a downlink site. and still my speed is slower than edge speeds.
Keep in mind the tower that is servicing your phone can have crap for bandwidth too.
I was near Gretna, VA on a trip and had full bars on 3g. I swear they had a dial-up modem on the other end of the tower though. Google maps were loading up slower than a typical edge connection.
In the end, it may not be your radio that's giving you trouble.
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Keep in mind the tower that is servicing your phone can have crap for bandwidth too.
I was near Gretna, VA on a trip and had full bars on 3g. I swear they had a dial-up modem on the other end of the tower though. Google maps were loading up slower than a typical edge connection.
In the end, it may not be your radio that's giving you trouble.
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I tried it through out Atlanta today. Different towers and several areas of metro Atlanta. West Atlanta, North Atlanta, and East Atlanta.
Keep in mind my phone is the htc touch pro. I do not have the brand names from t-mobile or AT&T.
Should I try a different rom or is that a useless effort?
theonemarcus said:
I tried it through out Atlanta today. Different towers and several areas of metro Atlanta. West Atlanta, North Atlanta, and East Atlanta.
Keep in mind my phone is the htc touch pro. I do not have the brand names from t-mobile or AT&T.
Should I try a different rom or is that a useless effort?
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perhaps 3G is disabled in your phone settings or the manila settings...
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perhaps 3G is disabled in your phone settings or the manila settings...
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You may have a hardware limitation. I noticed on the various Rhodiums that were around and for sale, the unlocked Touch Pro 2's stated they were not ATT 3G compatible, although they were 3G compatible. Apparently there are different implementations of 3G.
You may want to look into whether that is something in the firmware associated with the radio (Radio ROM) or the hardware itself.
Sounds like sprint
If you have the SPRINT service or a SPRINT phone, you do not have the "3G" icon enabled. This is because SPRINT uses the EDGE network and not the 3G network. They say that their network now (REV A) is actually what they consider 3.5G and is supposed to be faster than regular 3G . I have no issues with my phone with the speed, however, if you want the 3G to display, find a custom task bar and that icon will change to the 3G. Once again, SPRINT does not display "3G"
Hope this helps.
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the setting show that 3g is enable.
mwcostello said:
You may have a hardware limitation. I noticed on the various Rhodiums that were around and for sale, the unlocked Touch Pro 2's stated they were not ATT 3G compatible, although they were 3G compatible. Apparently there are different implementations of 3G.
You may want to look into whether that is something in the firmware associated with the radio (Radio ROM) or the hardware itself.
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i looked into the hdw side of things ... it looked like it is compatible according to the specs. i did notice there r some firmware update on htc that was released this yr. i'll have to look into that.
mapaz04 said:
If you have the SPRINT service or a SPRINT phone, you do not have the "3G" icon enabled. This is because SPRINT uses the EDGE network and not the 3G network. They say that their network now (REV A) is actually what they consider 3.5G and is supposed to be faster than regular 3G . I have no issues with my phone with the speed, however, if you want the 3G to display, find a custom task bar and that icon will change to the 3G. Once again, SPRINT does not display "3G"
Hope this helps.
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i thought of that too. that this rom my not have the 3g icon, but from time to time it will show "G" and then back to "E". and as far as i know ... i shough have close to 300kbs or more for downspeed. and i right?
thanks everyone for all of ur input. i'll look into all of it and get back to u. thx again.
If you have a standard Touch Pro (not Fuze or T-Mobile version), there's a very good chance you accidently picked up European version of it. European version will have European 3G, which is not compatible with US 3G frequency bands. Look into your documentation and see if you phone supports the following:
AT&T uses 850/1900
TMobile uses 1700/2100
European frequency bands are 1800/2100 if I remember correctly.
I have the Fuze and radio 1.14.25.35, and I get 396kB/s with only 2 bars...
Oh, and I'm in Connecticut.
lame!
something has got to be wrong man....i live hours away from 3G and if i even look at my phone wrong i lose reception!
BUT i got 281-392 Kbps!
Have you called your provider?
mlacomb said:
Keep in mind the tower that is servicing your phone can have crap for bandwidth too.
I was near Gretna, VA on a trip and had full bars on 3g. I swear they had a dial-up modem on the other end of the tower though. Google maps were loading up slower than a typical edge connection.
In the end, it may not be your radio that's giving you trouble.
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If you have a standard Touch Pro (not Fuze or T-Mobile version), there's a very good chance you accidently picked up European version of it. European version will have European 3G, which is not compatible with US 3G frequency bands. Look into your documentation and see if you phone supports the following:
AT&T uses 850/1900
TMobile uses 1700/2100
European frequency bands are 1800/2100 if I remember correctly.
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That could be true, but the documentation i have states:
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
the 850 and 1900 Mhz should not matter if its in europe or in usa, right???
but there is a new updates. i Used IE on the phone and my speed is incredible. i was able to test 3mb and it came back with speeds higher than fast 3g. just like my old phone. but under opera it would not go any faster than 40 kbs. i used another browser called skyfire. and i went to mobilespeedtest and got: . i went to cnet brandwidth test and got 3632.3 kbps. lol. amazing it looks like opera was my problem. hear are all of my results:
opera: (after testing using the other browsers now i get these results)
mobilespeedtest.com
cnet bandwidth test
.6745 mbps
IE:
mobilespeedtest
.408 mbps
Skyfire:
mobilespeedtest.com
cnet bandwidth test
3.2588 mbps
is it me ... or does your phone get warm when u use the net for a long time???
I doubt that the results are valid with a browser like Skyfire. It does all the rendering on the skyfire server instead of on your phone. It's probably reporting the rates in between the test site and the Skyfire server. Skyfire is fast, though; it's much faster at bringing up a full webpage than any other browser. You can open up espn.com in about 5 seconds.
I've always had good luck with my radio [see signature]
I apologize for this thread as it might not be in the correct area, but i figured this is the most relevant for this topic...
I have 2 questions so lets start with the first:
1) For some reason I'm not getting HSPDA network working on my phone. the best speed I've posted is about 3.2Mbs, which is not HSPDA speeds, or at least not as fast as it should be. It also says that i'm on 3G as opposed to H...is there a reason for this. Keep in mind I live in LA and they have one of the strongest networks for HSPDA (at least according to the rep I talked to).
2) Is it possible for us to get HSPDA+ speeds with a radio update. I don't know too much about the radio but it would seem to me like that is what it would take to get the HSPDA+ working as I'm assuming that it is the radio that determins your speed and not the hardware...though I could be wrong.
Just a thought, and a response would be awesome.
Thanks in advance guys and gals!
Those are HSPDA speeds. HSPDA+ should net you faster speeds (in theory). My g1 started hitting those speeds around 6 months ago when they started the upgrade over in Irvine (where I work). From what I know the upgrade was software based in areas that were already HSPDA which means they must have recently flipped the switch in your area. I may have benefited by being so close to the goog's Irvine office. I live in south LA county and they haven't rolled out HSPDA+ service there yet. Still slow 1.5Mb's
intersesting, so it is a switch, so therefore on a vibrant getting HSDPA is possible with an updated radio...?
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intersesting, so it is a switch, so therefore on a vibrant getting HSDPA is possible with an updated radio...?
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Based on what I've read HSPDA has a theoretical limit of 3.5Mb's whereas HSPDA+ should deliver 7Mb speeds. So yes it's possible to get HSPDA speeds on the vibrant but not because of an updated radio, as the hardware and software supported HSPDA right out of the box. The new G2 is touting so called 4G speeds but it's technically just HSPDA+. Either way you slice it, once their entire network is upgraded most people should be seeing speeds in the high 2, low 3Mb's.
I received consistently 5 MB down, and 500KB up in the southern Akron and North Canton area, which is south of Cleveland, OH with the Vibrant.
Hey i was just reading about AT&Ts "4g" network and how its just hsdpa+ for the first half of the year, and I read that hsdpa+ will be on the same bands as hsdpa/3g so my questions are:
What makes a phone utilize HSDPA+?
&
Would the x10a support it?
**i searched and did not see any topics about this but if i missed it just post the url :3
donny101 said:
What makes a phone utilize HSDPA+?
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Would the x10a support it?
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1. The phone hardware.
2. Yes the X10a does support it. If you flash to generic FW,you will see an H rather than a 3G icon in the status bar. HSDPA+ is 3.5G.
Also, since this is a question, you should have posted it in the Q&A forum.
HSPA+ is just the faster version of HSPA and could be up to 84/22mb depending on configuration (but not that fast on ATT). HSPA+ is anything over a 14mb link speed. ATT has run 2 versions of HSPA, 3.6 and 7.2 and at this time all of the network should be at 7.2 and should in theory give you better than 3mb.
ATT HSPA+ due to the backhaul issues will not be faster than 6mb in most places according to them. http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-c...ionId=KB115947 That link has been broken, here's google's cache link of that page: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...d=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com
Here's a link to PCWorld's testing of various networks in Feb 2010. http://www.pcworld.com/article/18959...ance_test.html
The X10 is capable of 7.2mb downloads but is not HSPA+. I live within a few hundred feet of a ATT tower, and get a signal strength of -65dB --85db and seldom get over 2620/1672kb according to Speednet. (Around 2.1mb)
AT&T says that the X10 is NOT HSPA 7.2 capable. The Captivate is also not listed but the HTC Aria is, and confirmed as 7.2 on the ATT website model specs but both Samsung and SE say the phone is 7.2 capable.
Metro NY is covered by a joint wifi from the 3 cable tv systems, Cablevision, Comcast and TWC they usually can give me 3mb+ on wifi. Considering that this is close to what the FCC is 'basic' internet speeds (though not as fast as the 30/5 mb in my home) it's way faster than my in-laws who have DSL.
wow sorry I forgot about the Q&A forum, I wrote this at 5am on no sleep ><
and thanks for the straightforward info
I have one of these coming and I am using the EE 4G network in the UK, now I doubt I will get 4G to work which isn't a major problem but will this phone work in 3G or HS+.
I have been searching around and keep getting contrasting information, some sites says I will only get 2G and others say I will get 3G etc, is there anyone out there with a bit more knowledge over networks that can help me please.
I have looked on these forums and found one post and have replied in this and sent PM's but do need this info rather fast.
I can't guarantee anything, but both the DNA and EE support 2100MHz, so you should be able to get HSPA+ without any problems. The phone was designed to work on most networks in the world, so there shouldn't be any issues.
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I can't guarantee anything, but both the DNA and EE support 2100MHz, so you should be able to get HSPA+ without any problems. The phone was designed to work on most networks in the world, so there shouldn't be any issues.
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Thanks for the reply I will be happy if it works with just HSPA+ as the 4G isn't that good where I live anyway.
So my contract is up in two days and I am looking at switching to a Net10 AT&T prepaid SIM service... Any real concerns or issues? I am on latest firmware and radios and running Infection 2.9.1 ROM.
Anybody doing this, comments or wish you had done it differently?
Probably going to pull the trigger in this today unless any red flags go up.
BTW, number porting is not an issue. I'm just going to move my VZW number to Google Voice once everything is working properly.
EDIT: ordered SIM and $50 unlimited card, should be here tomorrow. Hope all goes well...
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acejavelin said:
So my contract is up in two days and I am looking at switching to a Net10 AT&T prepaid SIM service... Any real concerns or issues? I am on latest firmware and radios and running Infection 2.9.1 ROM.
Anybody doing this, comments or wish you had done it differently?
Probably going to pull the trigger in this today unless any red flags go up.
BTW, number porting is not an issue. I'm just going to move my VZW number to Google Voice once everything is working properly.
EDIT: ordered SIM and $50 unlimited card, should be here tomorrow. Hope all goes well...
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To get 4g/3g I think your going to have to follow this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914122 Just in case you didn't know about it.
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To get 4g/3g I think your going to have to follow this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914122 Just in case you didn't know about it.
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I thought this wasn't necessary anymore with current radios and firmware?
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I think it is. I'm not 100% but I guess you'll see when you use your sim card.
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The Rezound out of the box supports the 900 MHz and 2100 MHz bands, which are used internationally for 3G and HSPA+. In the US, AT&T uses the 850 MHz and 1900 MHz bands, and T-Mobile uses 1700 MHz and 1900 MHz. The Rezound is great as a global phone, but it's always been limited to EDGE data in the US. This has never changed with firmware and radio updates.
The methods in the thread referenced earlier will let you get the 850 MHz band working with a very non-optimized, weak signal. That means you'll sometimes have 3G or HSPA+ on AT&T. But unless someone figures out how to optimize the signal there, you're probably still going to be stuck with EDGE most of the time.
El Schisne said:
The Rezound out of the box supports the 900 MHz and 2100 MHz bands, which are used internationally for 3G and HSPA+. In the US, AT&T uses the 850 MHz and 1900 MHz bands, and T-Mobile uses 1700 MHz and 1900 MHz. The Rezound is great as a global phone, but it's always been limited to EDGE data in the US. This has never changed with firmware and radio updates.
The methods in the thread referenced earlier will let you get the 850 MHz band working with a very non-optimized, weak signal. That means you'll sometimes have 3G or HSPA+ on AT&T. But unless someone figures out how to optimize the signal there, you're probably still going to be stuck with EDGE most of the time.
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I don't think anyone is going to find a way to optimize it for a stable connection for a while. The thread has been very quiet for a while now. Some users did get different results and I read through the thread and some people got better signal using a calibrated sensation nv file.
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Hmmm... Unfortunately it appears this isn't going to work as I hoped.
What's working: Voice and SMS out of the box... MMS, Data (2G Edge, speeds in the range of 15k to 50K) with some tweaking in the APN settings.
I tried the tweaks in the other thread and changing the NV settings, it would say it connected at HSPA+ and pull an IP address, but even with the AT&T tower less than a 1/2 mile in direct line of sight from my office window it would never open a web page or work with any app that required a network connection and signal strength was in the nether regions according to Network Signal Info.
Oh well... guess it was worth a shot.
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Hmmm... Unfortunately it appears this isn't going to work as I hoped.
What's working: Voice and SMS out of the box... MMS, Data (2G Edge, speeds in the range of 15k to 50K) with some tweaking in the APN settings.
I tried the tweaks in the other thread and changing the NV settings, it would say it connected at HSPA+ and pull an IP address, but even with the AT&T tower less than a 1/2 mile in direct line of sight from my office window it would never open a web page or work with any app that required a network connection and signal strength was in the nether regions according to Network Signal Info.
Oh well... guess it was worth a shot.
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Dang. You sure you didn't miss anything? Edge sucks reaaally bad. I know cause I have T-Mobile. Takes me 2 minutes to send a mms . Lol.
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Dang. You sure you didn't miss anything? Edge sucks reaaally bad. I know cause I have T-Mobile. Takes me 2 minutes to send a mms . Lol.
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Pretty sure I got everything right. Otherwise I wouldn't have been able to get everything to work on 2g , and I was able to pull an IP address when it said HSPA, I just couldn't stay connected or get any data through. Spent about 2 or 3 hours working on it this afternoon and finally gave up.
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That sucks man. Thanks for trying and posting your results though. I've been curious about doing this myself.
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I am now in search of an AT&T or other unlocked HSPA-capable Android smartphone, willing to trade my mint condition Rezound for it... Anyone can message me if interested in swapping a similar unit like SGS2 Skyrocket or HTC Vivid... Or perhaps I should just grab a 16GB Nexus 4 from Google?
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I am now in search of an AT&T or other unlocked HSPA-capable Android smartphone, willing to trade my mint condition Rezound for it... Anyone can message me if interested in swapping a similar unit like SGS2 Skyrocket or HTC Vivid... Or perhaps I should just grab a 16GB Nexus 4 from Google?
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I've been saving up for the nexus 4 but they might release a new nexus device . If you're eager to get a device , I would get the nexus 4 plus you can do some stuff to enable the lte radio. hecks yeah.
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