I've noticed on the newer based rom kitchens the left soft key function in phone app of "contacts" is gone and replaced by "hide keypad". How can I modify the .sys or to restore it to "contacts" so I can scroll through my contact using my preferred app of random access. Also when used with M2D you lose the today screen contact tab as well making it very difficult to get easy access to contacts. I know you can press the hide keypad and it shows the recent calls and contacts but I hate using it that way and prefer the old contact left soft key. I have two phones afflicted by this a titan running dcd 3.26 and a vogue running a base of 20748. I use the touch and vogue dialers and on older based rom the hide keypad wasn't there but is on new ones using the same dialers. I'm asking here as I have received no useful answer at ppcgeeks.
Hi drellisdee,
The reason the left soft key no longer bring up "true" contacts is due to the switch to a touch dialer. The touch dialer incorporates "smart dialing" which allows you to spell out the contacts name using the onscreen dial pad. Once you get this down you will no longer want the old method.
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Hi drellisdee,
The reason the left soft key no longer bring up "true" contacts is due to the switch to a touch dialer. The touch dialer incorporates "smart dialing" which allows you to spell out the contacts name using the onscreen dial pad. Once you get this down you will no longer want the old method.
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You can do that with the MR1 dialier, which has left softbutton as "contacts". I don't think the two features are directly related.
Tried using different dialers and my conclusion is that its the .sys not smart dialing nor the dialers as I tried making roms with and without smart dialing and used several different dialers the true touch one and then the old one from the ppc kitchen from 10/07 which would show the contacts tab on a older .sys base rom. I tried using the phone.dll and the phone redist from an older pre 20k sys which the same dialer gave the contacts tab and the rom built with no error just the phone app would fail to intialize as you couldn't bring up any dial pad.
I actually started thread about this at ppc but it has to do with the fact that all of the diamond sys ports are not true whole sys ports there are some modules in the redist folder in the sys that you have to change and a couple in the baselang folder .... in the past I have done this but here lately I haven't really worried about it .... you could always just find the newest qvga build and port it
Great Post.
That "Hide Keypad" was annoying the sh*t outta me as I couldn't get smartskey to work properly. After reading the thread above it assured me nothing I was doing would get rid of the Hide Keypad option so now I'm living with it.. LoL..
- ReDz
So how do i remove it?
I don't understand what you're saying.
Thanks
Ok, Everybody heres a finished (to my comfort) dialer that as far as i can see works properly.
I'll say its working at 99.999 percent and as with all the other canvases, landscape is not perfect.
its primarily for manila 2.5 but can work with 2.1, its 2G so no video calling but does have conference and works preaty smooth.
just quit cprog (and phcanvga.exe if you have it), install and then soft reset.
Cab pyrorob_gullum_Phone_Canvas_Enhancement_2G_4_2_V2.cab
Package: pyrorob_gullum_Phone_Canvas_Enhancement_2G_4_2_V2.rar
for those with the energy rom, heres a theme to match: pyrorob PhoneCanvas 4.2 EnergyRom Theme.cab install after the main install, soft reset.
So, i do want to thank everyone here and those who donate there time with this. I really appreciate this and am thankful for everyones help.
short statement:
we are a community of people helping each other to better our devices and only a tiny fraction of all the users contribute.
its great when it happens and no one should expect accolades or payment for there creativity.
(dont get me started on people who will only release things on this site until they get paid, i think it stifles the advancement of the community as a whole).
Now, i do want to specifically thank amarullz, whose phcanvga.exe im using, which without it, would have seriously hampered this and gullum who has been absolutely helpful and all the testers.
Phone Canvases in testing:
pyrorob Phone_Canvas_Enhancement_2G_3_0_1916_3532_2_ERom_Theme.cab
manila 2.1 compatible,no curtain, energyrom theme and confrence calling
pyrorob PhoneCanvas_4_3_35776_01.cab
manila 2.1 compatible,no curtain, confrence calling,AT&T video share and AT&T ptt (push to talk).
Hi Pyrorob, Im sure many people here are like me and read your posts, use your fixes, but dont know how to mod dialers and whatnot, so cant really offer help or suggestions with the things you are asking. It doesnt mean your efforst aren't appreciated though!
Regarding your dialer, it would be helpful if you posted a screenshot so we know what we're getting. And also some confirmations that we can uninstall the cab and it will restore our previous dialer without any issues etc. It probably also pays to mention not to use SKTools as you said in the EnergyROM thread it can totally delete the phone canvas and you wont be able to get back the one prior to install
Out of interest just how DO you do something like this anyway? Im a computer programmer but dont know anything about working on the phones. Like what language is the dialer written in? Do you have access to the code and can make changes that way, or are you just trying to resize images and hex edit things inside resource files or exe/dlls etc (eg x and y offsets)?
Thanks pyrorob, I'll give it a whirl, and I'll be sure and post if I have any thoughts.
Okay, so I can't get it to install. Says "Installation was unsuccessful. The program or settign cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions." I used dotfred's taskmanager to kill cprog, and put the phone into airplane mode. Any ideas?
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Okay, so I can't get it to install. Says "Installation was unsuccessful. The program or settign cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions." I used dotfred's taskmanager to kill cprog, and put the phone into airplane mode. Any ideas?
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Also kill phcanvga.exe.
scarecrow420 said:
Hi Pyrorob, Im sure many people here are like me and read your posts, use your fixes, but dont know how to mod dialers and whatnot, so cant really offer help or suggestions with the things you are asking. It doesnt mean your efforst aren't appreciated though!
Regarding your dialer, it would be helpful if you posted a screenshot so we know what we're getting. And also some confirmations that we can uninstall the cab and it will restore our previous dialer without any issues etc. It probably also pays to mention not to use SKTools as you said in the EnergyROM thread it can totally delete the phone canvas and you wont be able to get back the one prior to install
Out of interest just how DO you do something like this anyway? Im a computer programmer but dont know anything about working on the phones. Like what language is the dialer written in? Do you have access to the code and can make changes that way, or are you just trying to resize images and hex edit things inside resource files or exe/dlls etc (eg x and y offsets)?
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yes, i understand that, the only thing is, i didn't just open a thread and waited, i sent out a bunch of pm's to different people that i know knew the specifics of what to do and how to do it right and no one even had the decency to even reply. its like people think of this as some sort of competition..
yeah if you just follow the same steps to uninstall as you did to install then youll be fine. basically the dll's for the canvas have a bunch of positioning resources and thru lots of trial and error i managed to get things to where they are now.
I checked out your canvas on my Touch Pro.
The only think I noticed (except of the back button on the top right corner you mentioned) is that the left soft button "All People" does not work for me.
When I press it it changes from "All People" to "Contacts" and Manila crashes in the Background.
Any hints?
I have the same sig as above and dialer is working great! Only few bugs i see are what was mentioned already, especially with the all people left sofkey. Another is when you place a call the top taskbar is gone, small rezizing issue exactly the same as with rhodium dialer. If u hit keypad the taskbar comes back then tap call status to go back and the taskbar stays. Maybe get it to stay from the get go when you first make a call? All the features seem to work and landscape seems smoother then rhodium with it. Sorry cant help you with the technical side but always a happy beta tester. Just work out the few kinks, give it a makeover, good to go!!!
I have the same sig as above and dialer is working great! Only few bugs i see are what was mentioned already, especially with the all people left sofkey. Another is when you place a call the top taskbar is gone, small rezizing issue exactly the same as with rhodium dialer. If u hit keypad the taskbar comes back then tap call status to go back and the taskbar stays. Maybe get it to stay from the get go when you first make a call? All the features seem to work and landscape seems smoother then rhodium with it. Sorry cant help you with the technical side but always a happy beta tester. Just work out the few kinks, give it a makeover, good to go!!!
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One more thing. If you're in landscape already say writint a text message, then press the call button to bring up the dialer, the screen goes into portrait mode with the dialer while it should be in landscape. Then you have to close the hardware keyboard, reopen, now dialer is in landscape.
Bluetooth Volume???
Can anyone test this dialer with their bluetooth device? I dont have one handy right now. Just to make a call, try to adjust the volume up/down using the 2 hardkeys on the side of the phone to see if it works? I know on the rhodium dialer it doesnt change the actual volume on the headset, just shows on the volume volume is changing but does nothing. Hope its not the case with this dialer or can be fixed if it is? Thanks
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I have the same sig as above and dialer is working great! Only few bugs i see are what was mentioned already, especially with the all people left sofkey. Another is when you place a call the top taskbar is gone, small rezizing issue exactly the same as with rhodium dialer. If u hit keypad the taskbar comes back then tap call status to go back and the taskbar stays. Maybe get it to stay from the get go when you first make a call? All the features seem to work and landscape seems smoother then rhodium with it. Sorry cant help you with the technical side but always a happy beta tester. Just work out the few kinks, give it a makeover, good to go!!!
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One more thing. If you're in landscape already say writint a text message, then press the call button to bring up the dialer, the screen goes into portrait mode with the dialer while it should be in landscape. Then you have to close the hardware keyboard, reopen, now dialer is in landscape.
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Can anyone test this dialer with their bluetooth device? I dont have one handy right now. Just to make a call, try to adjust the volume up/down using the 2 hardkeys on the side of the phone to see if it works? I know on the rhodium dialer it doesnt change the actual volume on the headset, just shows on the volume volume is changing but does nothing. Hope its not the case with this dialer or can be fixed if it is? Thanks
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ok first one, the all people soft key, im testing the dialer on a phone with manila 2.5 and when you hit that key it goes into the manila contacts, the dialer originally is from a manila 2.5 leo rom so it might only work 100% with a manila 2.5 rom..
the top taksbar has to do with the repositioning by the phcanvga if it doent move up the incall screen and cut off the top then the buttons at the bottom will be cut. sometimes the phcanvga doesn't reposition properly at first so you can do a few things like switch to landscape and back, goto contacts and back or close and reopen it and it will reposition itself.
yeah and it going back to portrait? well as far as i know there isnt a whole lot of landscape support with the leo since it doesn't have a hard keyboard so i guess thats the way htc programed this?..
second one, try putting in this reg key:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Volume]
"EnableAdjustHSVolume"=dword:00000001
see if that works
Apart from the 'back' key issue noted, no problems on my current ROM build. Have installed, unistalled and reinstalled without issue following Pyrorob's instructions. Conference calling working well (my mates like being part of the beta test!). Great job and Thanks!
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ok first one, the all people soft key, im testing the dialer on a phone with manila 2.5 and when you hit that key it goes into the manila contacts, the dialer originally is from a manila 2.5 leo rom so it might only work 100% with a manila 2.5 rom..
the top taksbar has to do with the repositioning by the phcanvga if it doent move up the incall screen and cut off the top then the buttons at the bottom will be cut. sometimes the phcanvga doesn't reposition properly at first so you can do a few things like switch to landscape and back, goto contacts and back or close and reopen it and it will reposition itself.
yeah and it going back to portrait? well as far as i know there isnt a whole lot of landscape support with the leo since it doesn't have a hard keyboard so i guess thats the way htc programed this?..
second one, try putting in this reg key:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Volume]
"EnableAdjustHSVolume"=dword:00000001
see if that works
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Oh i see, didnt know it was from a 2.5 version. That makes sense then. You think you can make a version to work with 2.1 manila though? I have no idea how hard that would be, just talking about getting the left softkey going for 2.1 manila. Ill have my jawbone 3 later today. Ill try it out of the box first to see if it works with the volume hardkeys on the phone, if that doesnt work then ill plug in the reg edit you provided. Still, this is the fastest port for a very nice vga dialer for our phones, WOW! Cant believe it took them forever to port tachi dialer and took u a few days and this one is wayyyyy better then tachi! Great work and would happily donate to you or wherever you would like me too for this and all your great work pyrorob, thank you!!!
Umm
Well out of the box the headset volume cannot be changed by the device with this dialer. I looked in the registry using the regular reg edit app thats cooked into nrg's rom and also tried using the one that came with sktools (which is more friendly i think!), neither have that entry.
I go to current user, control panel, volume, only entries here are all one worded, nothing like what you described and nothing with a standard setting of 0000001 or anything like that. Ill get a screen shot for u if that helps but looking in the reg i cant find it. Do i need to "add" the reg entry u described since its not there? If i do, how do i add it? Never done that before.
So far the only bug that I have found appart from the already mention ones, is a sliding bar on the right corner of the dialer when I open it up. The only way that i have found to make it disapear its by fliping the phone so the dialer goes to landscape and fliping it back to portrait and no more silder bar, and by closing the dialer with the end button instead of the x. Appart from that is working really great, so far no connecting delays ussing slide 2 answer. I'll be using it a couple of days more to test it out to see if anything else pops up. Hell, i like it so much i'll keep it until a new flash or a update from you pyrorob.
I think the only thing that needs its the energy theme.
Geat job man!
This dialer is like a God send to us, its soo good! Tested out the slide to answer/ignore and works flawless, no lag or sticking like rhodium! This is like an upgraded rhodium dialer for US users who dont have video call, its great. Love how theres no annoying bluetooth icon on the taskbar either when bluetooth is enabled with this dialer, huge plus for me! Hate having useless icons on the taskbar. Duh i know bluetooth is on cus i turned it on, why do i need an icon up there to remind me? If u can just make some finishing touches, skin the hell out of it to match energy rom, Golden, seriously golden here!!!
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So far the only bug that I have found appart from the already mention ones, is a sliding bar on the right corner of the dialer when I open it up. The only way that i have found to make it disapear its by fliping the phone so the dialer goes to landscape and fliping it back to portrait and no more silder bar, and by closing the dialer with the end button instead of the x. Appart from that is working really great, so far no connecting delays ussing slide 2 answer. I'll be using it a couple of days more to test it out to see if anything else pops up. Hell, i like it so much i'll keep it until a new flash or a update from you pyrorob.
I think the only thing that needs its the energy theme.
Geat job man!
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What sliding bar is this? Are you talking about the top right corner wheres theres a grey box with a black arrow distorted pointing left? Thats the back button which would be nice if it can be skinned good or resized (looks fine in landscape as well as everything else, just not so much when receiving a call but no biggie!). Other then that, i have no idea what you're talking about? Can u provide a screen shot maybe?
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What sliding bar is this? Are you talking about the top right corner wheres theres a grey box with a black arrow distorted pointing left? Thats the back button which would be nice if it can be skinned good or resized (looks fine in landscape as well as everything else, just not so much when receiving a call but no biggie!). Other then that, i have no idea what you're talking about? Can u provide a screen shot maybe?
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No man, i know the back button, it's not that. It a sliding up/down bar, the one that appears whe you flip it to landscape. It appears when i close the dialer pressing the x button and open it up again with the send button and if i flip it to landscape when flip back to portrait the bar stays, have to flip it back to make it go away. Sory can't post screen shots I'm at work, plus don't know how to take a screen shot from the phone.
I like the actual dialer itself, the buttons are nice and big and easy to hit, but there are a few things about it i wish were a bit more intuitive. For one, i believe on my old phone, when you start punching letters/numbers it would tend to pull up the most expected result...so if you call a number a lot that would be above say someone you don't ever call. but this doesn't do that so i am constantly seeing the same random contact at the top when i punch the first FOUR digits for one of my top dials. Which brings my next point, i don't like that you only get one choice to start, my old phone i could see like 4 or so contacts then touch the one in the list from there. on this dialer, i always have to hit the thin bar where it tell how many matches you have, and it's easy to miss that with your finger. I also wish that when you come into the dialer it listed more than just your last single connection.
I may try out something else, any suggestions?
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I like the actual dialer itself, the buttons are nice and big and easy to hit, but there are a few things about it i wish were a bit more intuitive. For one, i believe on my old phone, when you start punching letters/numbers it would tend to pull up the most expected result...so if you call a number a lot that would be above say someone you don't ever call. but this doesn't do that so i am constantly seeing the same random contact at the top when i punch the first FOUR digits for one of my top dials. Which brings my next point, i don't like that you only get one choice to start, my old phone i could see like 4 or so contacts then touch the one in the list from there. on this dialer, i always have to hit the thin bar where it tell how many matches you have, and it's easy to miss that with your finger. I also wish that when you come into the dialer it listed more than just your last single connection.
I may try out something else, any suggestions?
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Try typing the digits that correspond with the first few letters in the name of the person you are trying to call
That is what I am doing now
Dillsnik said:
I like the actual dialer itself, the buttons are nice and big and easy to hit, but there are a few things about it i wish were a bit more intuitive. For one, i believe on my old phone, when you start punching letters/numbers it would tend to pull up the most expected result...so if you call a number a lot that would be above say someone you don't ever call. but this doesn't do that so i am constantly seeing the same random contact at the top when i punch the first FOUR digits for one of my top dials. Which brings my next point, i don't like that you only get one choice to start, my old phone i could see like 4 or so contacts then touch the one in the list from there. on this dialer, i always have to hit the thin bar where it tell how many matches you have, and it's easy to miss that with your finger. I also wish that when you come into the dialer it listed more than just your last single connection.
I may try out something else, any suggestions?
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I hate the stock dialer bc it ONLY shows ONE name/number when you start dialing. I'm used to seeing at least 4 names/numbers on that screen. I use GO Dialer instead. It's an ugly shade of blue, but the keypad is transparent translucent, and also goes away when you scroll the list of names/numbers.
I like the stock dialer
I looked at some alternatives but I like the stock one better.
The only gripe I have with the stock dialer is that I can't get it to work in landscape mode. Any one out there know how to get it to rotate automatically. I can't find any settings for it to make it rotate.
the only dialer that i consider very good is the one from MIUI
everything else doesnt compare in my book
Go Dialer is pretty good. First one I actually find acceptable. All of the "Go Dev" apps are quite good, and updated constantly. Plus they actually tell you what they updated, and on what date.
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Go Dialer is pretty good. First one I actually find acceptable. All of the "Go Dev" apps are quite good, and updated constantly. Plus they actually tell you what they updated, and on what date.
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I found Go contact right b4 I saw your post too lol
I was going to come here and update this thread
but yea
Go contact + sms + launcher has been awesome
I can't use the stock dialer cause I changed my LCD density (210) and that breaks the stock dialer. Was trying to get used to go dialer but it doesn't transfer numbers from Google maps, ie if I do a search on maps and click the dial button, go dialer comes up blank. That alone was a dealbreaker for me. I use dialer one, very functional, fast, and looks like stock. I also was not a fan of the weird blue shade of go dialer.
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I can't use the stock dialer cause I changed my LCD density (210) and that breaks the stock dialer. Was trying to get used to go dialer but it doesn't transfer numbers from Google maps, ie if I do a search on maps and click the dial button, go dialer comes up blank. That alone was a dealbreaker for me. I use dialer one, very functional, fast, and looks like stock. I also was not a fan of the weird blue shade of go dialer.
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Newest update is supposed to fix the numbers from other apps thing in Go Contacts.
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Newest update is supposed to fix the numbers from other apps thing in Go Contacts.
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nope
didnt fix it
uninstalled
I don't mind the stock dialer, I only mind that the stock contacts app doesn't allow you to filter your contacts at least to phone only on the bell version. the contacts tab does that for you (for obvious reasons) but it makes the contacts app useless to me as it shows everyone I have emailed on gmail as a contact.
I use dialer one. Its very good and similar to sense dialer
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i was about to post a thread looking for some dialer and contacts app. i gave up on the stock one, so not intuitive. my last phone was windows mobile, and the way you find contacts using the dialer is so much better than the stock android. so i tried Go Dialer and Dialer One as suggested here to test both. any more options out there is appreciated
I am convinced that the dialer is pooched on our phone. So I downloaded a replacement dialer from the market, but found that it cannot replace the phones dialer. I went into the dialers settings and do go for getting it to clear defaults root or not. So I am going to in list help to try and kill the phones dialer and replace it with another dialer be it one from the matrix or one from another phone, but I am really locking everything down to the dialer.
UPDATE: Not entirely convinced it is the dialer anymore.
I was downloading extra stuff for an app(game) with WIFI on. I did not send/receive txt or calls. once the download was done I turned WIFI off and noticed a few min later that 3G never picked up. Tried to make a call and the dialer sit at connecting but never dialed out. I had 4 bars for signal not 3G icon and the bars were grey. Could not end the call via end call button as the dialer seems to have locked up. hit the home button and the notification bar at the top flashed green. pull down notification bar and tried to click on the dialer and nothing just closes the note bar. go into setting/applications and tried to FC the dialer and no go it stayed open. Then FC'd dialer storage and the dialer died, then radio bars dropped totally and had an x in them with the lock screen saying "no service". airplane mode would stay a transparent blue and never actually complete. Had to reboot phone to get 3G/voice back.
So has no-one else seen this. And BTW this has been happening since day one, and on all updates including the 198_6. And no no other apps are installed when I have seen this and it happens almost 100% of the time but before I thought it was only leaving the wifi are that did it.
bump, new stuff, see OP. I am really trying to see if this is just my phone or other peoples phones as well.
I had go dialer installed with no problems, but I love the stock dialer so I scrapped it. Worked fine though.
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21productionz said:
I had go dialer installed with no problems, but I love the stock dialer so I scrapped it. Worked fine though.
Sent from my MoPho using the XDA Premium app
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That was one I installed, but I could never make it the default dialer. Was it set as your default dialer? meaning when the phone rang Go dialer opened and not the built in dialer? because mine would always be the default dialer.
I have an I-747 (ATT) SGS 3 and it's stock rooted.
I have only had the phone a couple of days and I've noticed the phone touchtones are missing. There's no touchtone sounds when dialing a number and when entering a key on the keypad like to enter a VM password, I get this ugly monotone sound on each key. In other words it doesn't sound like a touch tone phone. Is this normal?
I've installed the STock ROM via Odin and it still does this.
Normal? if not how can I fix it?
Its in your settings
Menu Button>Settings>Sound>Keytones
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Its in your settings
Menu Button>Settings>Sound>Keytones
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it's checked
still no love
the keys make the water drop sound instead of the touchtone sounds
Found it i think
go to your dial pad
Menu>settings
In there is some for touchtone i think
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Prolly need to modify each keys sound file to be whatever touchtone sound it should be for each. I dont see any touchtone items in the accessibility settings either.
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So this is normal?
Found it i think
go to your dial pad
Menu>settings
In there is some for touchtone i think
Not there
Im out of ideas, maby its in the manual somewhere?
Im perplexed. I'm assuming the tones are built in to the dialer apk ill pull one from a rom and move it to the phone and see what happens.
I think it must be a hardware problem. I just installed the latest OTA through KIES and the problem persists. Very strange because I get touch tones in go dialer.
If anyone cares...
I chatted up Samsung Tech support today and was informed that this is normal.
The dialer doesn't do touchtones.