I'm a novice chef and I'm seeing more and more people use a hybrid build for their roms. For example, NATF is using 21009 which he got from Da_G and I'm wondering why? I've been using NATF's ROMS has a base for my customizations and I'm looking to start building my own base. Since NATF went away from the stock AT&T ROM I've noticed the hybrids are quirky so I'm trying to get a handle on why chefs are using them as I go forward.
Also, is there a good collection of Packages somewhere for bundling in to a rom?
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I'm a novice chef and I'm seeing more and more people use a hybrid build for their roms. For example, NATF is using 21009 which he got from Da_G and I'm wondering why? I've been using NATF's ROMS has a base for my customizations and I'm looking to start building my own base. Since NATF went away from the stock AT&T ROM I've noticed the hybrids are quirky so I'm trying to get a handle on why chefs are using them as I go forward.
Also, is there a good collection of Packages somewhere for bundling in to a rom?
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There are alot of reasons for making a hybrid. The main reason is taking the best of everything. a dll from here, a package from there, a sys from here, a xip from there. You are right that it can be quirky. However it can also yield incredible roms if done right.
Honestly there is no great location for packages. Most of them are collected over time. I have several hundred that it has taken me years to get. Probably about half of those are now out of date. The best thing you can do is just start searching. If there are any specific ones you need let me know and ill see if I have them.
JoeWilcox said:
I'm a novice chef and I'm seeing more and more people use a hybrid build for their roms. For example, NATF is using 21009 which he got from Da_G and I'm wondering why? I've been using NATF's ROMS has a base for my customizations and I'm looking to start building my own base. Since NATF went away from the stock AT&T ROM I've noticed the hybrids are quirky so I'm trying to get a handle on why chefs are using them as I go forward.
Also, is there a good collection of Packages somewhere for bundling in to a rom?
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Hybrid builds may introduce some quirks, but they rarely cause "dealbreakers" as I've seen some problems referred to lately.
Two positive examples of hybrid builds that immediately spring to mind are: MS Voice Command [was broken in Fuze stock ROM - needed a new DLL and OS build to correct], and GPS Navigation [horrible in Fuze stock ROM for 99% of people - needed Blackstone/Diamond drivers and registry changes to correct].
One dealbreaker would be: Captain Throwback. When he flashed to my ROM based on 21009, his Exchange connection suddenly stopped working. This began as a dealbreaker, but ended up being narrowed down to his SD card being partitioned, which OS 21009 didn't like. This is a quirk that was resolved by creating one big SD card.
Unfortunately that hasn't been a good collection of ROM packages created for the Raphael yet. On the Kaiser, _Alex_ distributed a modified version of KaiserKitchen along with a rather large collection of QVGA packages.
I totally agree that spot fixes like the GPS/DirectX drivers from the Blackthrone are important additions. I didn't realize MSVC was broken with the base AT&T build. That can certainly be a good reason to upgrade. That's sort of why I wanted to get a handle on why you guys were doing it. To me, MSVC isn't worth losing multi-select but I'm sure it is to others.
I'd love to see a base OS thread where we can just discuss updates/changes like this without the clutter of general support for a ROM.
I agree, _ALEX_'s kitchen was awesome on the Kaiser. I've been putting together a collection for my own use, maybe we should all just get together and create a good set of packages for chefs.
You don't need to lose multiselect, it's controlled by a registry key (which i discuss in my 20xxx registry settings thread in the raphael forum)
Also, the fix for MSVC in stock fuze rom is simply a blackstone wavedev.dll driver, don't need to upgrade the os to fix that, just extract rom, drop in driver replacement, cook
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You don't need to lose multiselect, it's controlled by a registry key (which i discuss in my 20xxx registry settings thread in the raphael forum)
Also, the fix for MSVC in stock fuze rom is simply a blackstone wavedev.dll driver, don't need to upgrade the os to fix that, just extract rom, drop in driver replacement, cook
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I can't seem to get rid of multiselect using that registry key. It's cooked into my latest ROM, but multiselect is still there.
I thought we tried dropping the DLL file into the stock ROM, but it wouldn't take... since the OS is 19971.
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im in the process of making a rom for my mogul but i need to know what would be the best one. ive hear of dcd, but i hear there a dogguys one and a no2chem one. so please tell me what would work best for a good rom creator. also does anyone know how to change both the main bootsplash and the sub bootsplash on the mogul because i hate the boring old stock ones. thank you.
go for DCD's Kitchen....get the rom YOU want....
There is no phone but Titan....and DCD is its prophet.....
CromDubh said:
There is no phone but Mogul....and DCD is its prophet.....
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**Conservative Christian mind begins freaking out about now....**
YIKES!!! Run away!! Run Away!!
Curiously enough, I'm teaching a class on Religions of the World right now.
BTW, we call it Titan.
3 letters....... D C D. Period. Here endeth the lesson.
This isn't necessarily a kitchen, because it is already a cooked rom.
If you look at VetVito's base rom, it actually reports 47.88 mb of total program memory. This is a full 900k more than the next closest ROM. I turned off the HTC Home and Microsoft Live Search home screen plugins and after soft-reset, there is >27 mb of RAM available (Free).
I'm using it now and it is snappy and every little bit of extra available ram, helps.
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This isn't necessarily a kitchen, because it is already a cooked rom.
If you look at VetVito's base rom, it actually reports 47.88 mb of total program memory. This is a full 900k more than the next closest ROM. I turned off the HTC Home and Microsoft Live Search home screen plugins and after soft-reset, there is >27 mb of RAM available (Free).
I'm using it now and it is snappy and every little bit of extra available ram, helps.
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So you use your PPC w/o adding any programs? Isn't that like having a PC just to run notepad?
I'd reccomend you check the other kitchens out as well. i've not used the ppckitchen.org kitchen but I know dogguys kitchen will give you the ability to dump any rom you choose as your base. This may work better for some people who don't like my customizations, or want to use a more stock base as mine has become a little more experimental lately.
does anyone have the link to dogguys or nochems kitchens i wanna try thiers. was anyone successful in changing their bootsplash to a custom one
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does anyone have the link to dogguys or nochems kitchens i wanna try thiers. was anyone successful in changing their bootsplash to a custom one
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no2chem doesn have a kitchen. people use basekits to make custom roms off of his roms
boggsie said:
This isn't necessarily a kitchen, because it is already a cooked rom.
If you look at VetVito's base rom, it actually reports 47.88 mb of total program memory. This is a full 900k more than the next closest ROM. I turned off the HTC Home and Microsoft Live Search home screen plugins and after soft-reset, there is >27 mb of RAM available (Free).
I'm using it now and it is snappy and every little bit of extra available ram, helps.
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Too bad it isn't 6.1
coolsac32 said:
does anyone have the link to dogguys or nochems kitchens i wanna try thiers. was anyone successful in changing their bootsplash to a custom one
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no2chem's basekit is a really good foundation to build your ROM off of, but I personally think DCD is pretty hard to beat...
Yes. I know... it's been asked a few times before, and there are countless articles relating to the many different Upgrade ROMS and Radio combinations - BUT, we'd like to know - which of the options is THE BEST of same - to run on our priceless VX6800 Mogul/Titans - on the Verizon Wireless network... and allows the unlocking and operation of the on-board GPS...?!?
Some require a number of steps to upgrade the 1.30.60 Radio and 2.09.605.8ase ROM - from the original out-of-the-box device, others offer a recipe of other required steps this side of wearing tin foil on one's head to keep out the voices (as a parent of teenagers, I've simply learned to not listen to them, and a select amount we're warned to stay away from.
For the NOOB and experienced PPCGeek member alike, would fellow readers please submit their favorite versions of the above...!?
Thank you for your kind contribution!
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Verizon Wireless VX6800 - in search of the perfect VZW-friendly ROM/Radio 6.1 OS... (any suggestions?!)
Same thread as the one over at ppcgeeks...but here it is again...
Flashing Guide for beginners:
PLEASE FOLLOW THE GUIDE CAREFULLY~
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9927
Unlocker:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9093
Radio 3.39.10:
http://rapidshare.com/files/113794877/radio339.rar
No2Chem's ROM: (clean)
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=25065
Dcd's kitchen/ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391696
I have the XV6800 and use Rom DCD 3.1.2 and Radio 3.39 and of course Olipro 2.40. Follow the Wiki guide on here. Updating to Radio 3.39 made a big difference on signal. Also remember to get the Verizon Carrier Cab.
Thanks. Quick question... but, with the Build OS program via PPCGeeks, we can select a carrier (of which Verizon is an option). What are we to do with the Carrier cab that you mentioned above...? Sorry, but - if I'm thinking it - I'm SURE some other person feeling like a dweeb about now certainly is...!
Thanks. Quick question... but, with the Build OS program via PPCGeeks, we can select a carrier (of which Verizon is an option). What are we to do with the Carrier cab that you mentioned above...? Sorry, but - if I'm thinking it - I'm SURE some other person feeling like a dweeb about now certainly is...!
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If you're going to flash a custom rom from dcd, then you don't use the buildos from ppcgeeks.
Gotcha. Thought that... but, wasn't sure. So far - I'm leaning toward the BuildOS method of customizing - as you can pick and chose just what features and programs you wish to have included in your device. At present, No2Chem has some of the most advanced and robust versions of ROMs to select from... what with the latest being 5068 - and 5069 well into becoming the newest addition (as it's still in development).
One question about the afore mentioned ROM versions... I know that some (if not most) offer a few options of MMS and SMS programs. If we DON'T load them... is there a "basic" option already on the device and working? I know that's of special interest to a good many users.
Thanks - in advance - for your collective replies.
Sandy, send me a pm to discuss
Hi there!
I need a working ROM for my HTC Touch Pro.
I found one (hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470164) but that one was posted in 2007 so the download file is long gone from the internet! It was a ROM with a Stock market tab in FT3D.
I've read the rules and the Wiki but still I can't find what I'm looking for on this forum because of the many ROM's people have made! Don't get me wrong: I think that's great but I need help locating the right manilla that can be downloaded! Or point me in the direction were to look!
Thanks for your help! and greetingz from Holland
Mike
Er...
Well the latest is Manila 2.5 or sense 2.5 w/e you want to call it.
Most of the roms offer one or the other.
perrsonally i recommend energy rom... they're wonderful.
Leo version is slow but pretty
Pheonix two is strong.
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Well the latest is Manila 2.5 or sense 2.5 w/e you want to call it.
Most of the roms offer one or the other.
perrsonally i recommend energy rom... they're wonderful.
Leo version is slow but pretty
Pheonix two is strong.
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Agreed.
rahul_bhatia said:
Well the latest is Manila 2.5 or sense 2.5 w/e you want to call it.
Most of the roms offer one or the other.
perrsonally i recommend energy rom... they're wonderful.
Leo version is slow but pretty
Pheonix two is strong.
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Oké! Thanks for your replay. I've read somewere that manilla 2.6 is still in beta?
I know (from the wiki) that I have a HTC "Raphael" (touch pro...duh! ) but I see a lot of ROM's for the Diamond and pro 2 aswell! Do they all work fine on the Touch pro to? As a newbie I don't know were to look for when I'm looking for a ROM.
Can I create a ROM of my one? What need I to do that? I know my way around Paint Shop Pro but not around programming like in C++.
Manila (aka SenseUI)
Newer versions of Manila may require that you use a WinMO 6.5 custom ROM as HTC released the new 2.x versions of Manila (aka Sense) on devices that sported WinMO 6.5.
Additionally, some of the recent Manila releases (ex: 2.5, 2.6) may be versions obtained from dev/test ROM source. If you're after stability or rely on your device, this may not be preferable.
Custom ROM's
There are several customs available ... some chefs even release different ROM streams. In many cases, custom ROM's will also contain recent application updates. If you're after stability or rely on your device, once again this may not be preferable.
Custom ROM's are usually specific to devices. For example, if you own a Raphael GSM device, you only flash custom ROM that are Raphael GSM specific. Flashing custom ROM's from a different device or CDMA may permanently damage your device.
Kitchen (DIY Custom ROM)
Building a custom ROM has become much simpler. Many chefs who have moved onto another mobile device will often release a final ROM as well as the kitchen they use to prepare the ROM ... this serves as a great starting point.
Additionally, there are many tutorials available on how to use kitchens floating around the forum.
Lastly, moderators typically close threads requesting "What's The Best ROM" as selecting a custom ROM is like choosing a vehicle, house, partner ... it's all about personal preference. And from past experiences, these types of threads usually get out of control pretty quick. So, to avoid having a thread that you start closed, it is best to avoid "What's The Best ROM" discussions.
HTH,
OH..........sorry!
Don't want to upset the moderators!
Then I have just one final question:
Is there on this forum-part a topic with a standard ROM with instruction on how to customize it? Or can I find those things in the Wiki?
I would like to contribute to theme's or even a Dutch ROM.
I only need to know/learn how to do that! Can someone give me a link to some documentation and files/programs to use?
Thanks!
mww1977 said:
Is there on this forum-part a topic with a standard ROM with instruction on how to customize it? Or can I find those things in the Wiki?
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AFAIK, there isn't a "Generic" ROM with customization tips. What most members do is download a kitchen and post any customization related question in the corresponding kitchen thread.
[KITCHENS & OEM PACKAGES] Raphael GSM Devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582134
I would like to contribute to theme's or even a Dutch ROM.
I only need to know/learn how to do that! Can someone give me a link to some documentation and files/programs to use?
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For additional applications and theme customization, look at these sections of XDA. They may provide the information you are after.
Windows Mobile Development and Hacking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=522
Windows Mobile Development and Hacking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=473
Cheers,
hey guys im a beginner and have no clue on how to build a rom for hd2, but would like to build one. can someone please help?1?
post your question regarding cooking in chef general..
dloopy said:
hey guys im a beginner and have no clue on how to build a rom for hd2, but would like to build one. can someone please help?1?
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It will involve a lot of reading, i believe Dutty provides a kitchen in his roms so thats a start.
heres a great starter, lots of info about the kitchen structure in post 1, great starter guide in post 2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628948
There's a lot involved when it comes to building a fast, stable, well-working ROM.
To get you started, I would recommend you download Ervius's Visual Kitchen based on Bepe's latest tools from HERE.
Second, download the latest stock ROM for your specific device. Mine is the T-Mobile HD2 so the stock ROM for that was where I started.
Extract the RUU_LEO_......exe using WinRAR. It can be found HERE. The free version will serve you well. Now open the Kitchen executable and use the option on the left to "extract" or dump the stock ROM that you just extracted from the exe. This will create the Kitchen for you. Or rather.. It will create a solid base foundation in which you can begin your modifications.
Before you'll be able to re-cook the ROM however, you will have to "recmod" the NTFConfig.dll module in Notification Enhancement. Failure to do this will result in a non-booting ROM. Don't ask why... I just know that this has to be done.
Once you do all of this, rebuild the ROM as stock and flash it to your phone(YOU MUST HAVE HARDSPL FIRST!!!!). If all goes well and the ROM boots, runs, and works like you expect a stock ROM to work, then you're free to start making all the changes you want.
TIP>> NEVER delete any package just because you are now using an updated version. Always keep the original just in case something doesn't work and always remember, keep 2 save files. One that you know for a fact will work if you re-cook and one that you experiment with.
As you get more comfortable with cooking ROMS, then you'll be able to update the SYS/XIP components more easily and so I suggest you stay away from that right off the get go. Get a good solid ROM first then play with those "extras".
One last thing - Familiarize yourself with the initflashfiles.dat file(open it with notepad) located in \OEM\"Device name"\0409\OEM_Lang_0409(I used 0409 as an example as this is WWE - you can use whatever language you like). This file controls all files and directories. Trust me, if you don't understand what I mean by that then open the file and you will.
If you have any other questions I'm sure there are many other chefs here who can offer you help and assistance.
Finally, be persistent! Don't let a buggy or non-booting ROM get you down. It can always be fixed! Just have confidence in your "techy side" and have patience. Know that the more you do it, the better at it you will get.
Good luck and happy building!!!
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[ ive been told that you can take a standard custom rom of your choice and just load the hd2 drivers to it is this true and where can i find the drivers to check what folder would i locate the
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ross07 said:
[ ive been told that you can take a standard custom rom of your choice and just load the hd2 drivers to it is this true and where can i find the drivers to check what folder would i locate the
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or any standard drivers of what ever phone etc
I have read about Remotetracker.
I also read it would be possible to cook it into a ROM.
I have coocked a rom allready (on touch HD), surprisingly simple, but not so simple to immediately try... [and the testing afterwards]
If ROMS are around with Remotetracker build in, please could you tell me which?
I already searched the ROM Development forum, but a search for Remotetracker gives me a lot of thrads, but in (at least the first ones returned) i found no reference to Remotetracker.
The only one would be Chucky ROM (with kitchen) which mentiones it as an "addon" (does this mean you will have to (re)cook the rom to get it in?
In the meantime I will continue my investigation .....
Thanx in advance
none that i'm aware of, because there wouldn't be much point cooking it into a mass release rom, because the settings would only be stored on the sd card, so the thief removes or wipes the card and remotetracker wouldn't work.
if you want it hardreset and sd card missing safe, then you need to cook it in yourself, after preparing your custom settings. (there is a tool on the creators site to generate a reg file of your personal settings to add to your kitchen when you cook.)
Thanks, I hoped there would be roms with remotetracker build in, but apparently not (done some more searching).
This brings up another question:
Is there a guide on how to cook your own ROM?
I just found one, dated from April and cleared as obsolete.
I looked for kitchen and cooking rom, but cannot find the nessesary information.
Personally I like energy roms, but I cannot find the kitchen used....
It has been a while, so it is not so clear anymore how to cook.
It would be nice if there is a guide/tutorial/manual for cooking your own ROMs.