ive searched everywhere guys i promise...
if i bought the htc touch pro
and flashed it with a different radio would it have 850/900/1900/2100 MHz??
instead of just the basic EU 3G?
because i have the Fuze now and i wanna just return it and buy the Touch Pro instead. but i want to buy it if i know for sure that it'll work with att 3g
or should i just keep my fuze?
thanks guys
Not too sure about this but.....
Personal opinion, if you have a Fuze and you are in USA, stick to it. I have one and I love it. As far as I know, the Touch Pro has different GSM-UMTS hardware capabilities:
Touch Pro:
Network HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 2 Mbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency and data speed are operator dependent.)
Fuze:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
(850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
3G (Network)
UMTS/HSDPA (850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
So, I think....for what I understand, the touch pro will not give you 3G speeds on USA networks because of the 850/1900 lack of frequencies.
Please anyone correct me if I'm wrong about this.
thanks a lot.. i knew that would be a problem
but ya flashing a new radio wouldnt make a difference no?
Yeah dude no 3g for the euro TP in the states.
Also you gotta stop and read, search everything. Dont just make a new thread . All your threads have been answered you just gotta look.
also look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459335
No sir.
The problem is not the RADIO. Is a HARDWARE difference between them.
zachthemaster said:
thanks a lot.. i knew that would be a problem
but ya flashing a new radio wouldnt make a difference no?
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thanks a lot guys. really quick and nice =] sorry for not thoroughly searching
i wish the engine was more user-friendly. sorry =]
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Hi Guys,
Maybe someone already explained this, but I have a Euro Stock HTC pro that I wish to use with ATT network. Everything works fine but 3G, it only enables the Edge.
Do I miss any cab or something?
Thanks much,
Julius
Also, I tested with Monx/RR Rom but both without luck.
I am flashing radio to see if this is the problem
The Euro version is missing the US 3G frequencies.
But on the box it is claiming it has Quadband and have the 850/1900 freq. How could I check if the phone has it?
The HTC Touch Pro EU has 3G bands of 900/1900 (correct me if i"m wrong)
AT&T uses 850/2100 for 3G.
i dont know what to tell you buddy
For HSPA, the Euro version uses 900/2100 MHz and Quad band EDGE/GSM for 850/900/1800/1900 MHz. This is why you're only getting the EDGE signal.
The US 3G version has HSPA 2100/1900/850 MHz. More specifically ATT runs on the 850/1900 for 3G, EDGE, and GPRS.
You should take/send back the phone and buy a Fuze.
Thanks for both of your answer. Well, too late. I bought it when I travelled there. Anyways thanks!
Hi, i am newbie yet, but by what i read, RADIO is responsible by the communication, with GPRS, with 3g too for exemple.
My HTC TPT7272 works on dual-band trough the HSPA/WCDMA, only on 900 and 2100 MHz...
But here on my region, my provider provides the access for 3G only on 850/1900 MHz, so, i have to use EDGE to connect to the internet, but my HTC support 3G...
Does anybody know, if I can upgrade my radio, or if is possible to change the work band for 3G by the radio for provide my access to the 3G?
Grateful
Henrique
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I hope that would be the case, but I have yet to see it work for the many months on this forum. There are strong evidence that this is a hardware limitation on the Raphael. Unless you have a FUZE (AT&T version of Raphael), you are out of luck for 850/1900 HSUPA until someone comes forth with the software for us to try.
but so, u see some possibility?
if anybody knows, please contact me, i would love to use my HSUPA, crap of provider, could provide full signal..
if some version of raphael works on this band, could i install his radio? i really wants to navigate on 3G signal...
LOOK IT:
Fuze/AT&T(HTC RAPHAEL 101)
Cellular;Phone
Cellular-Networks: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900, UMTS2100
Cellular+Data+Links: CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA
FUZE WORKS ON IT, on 850, anybody know if I install his radio will work??
The official specs on HTC's website doesn't inlude 850/1900 as part of the HSPA (3G) connection, only for EDGE.
I have tried many of the radios here and none gives me 3G connection for my carrier, which is on 850 band for HSDPA.
I have tried 1.02.25.19
and then 1.02.25.28
and then 1.02.25.32
and then 1.08.25.20M1
and now 1.11.25.01
but I haven't tried any radios for the other phones since my TP is not security/CID unlock. You can try all the raphael radios, then consider getting CID unlock to try the other radios if you wish.
I have been on this forum for a few months and yet to read anyone successful in getting a TP working on 850. If you do succeed, please share this knowledge for I am sure there are still ppl out there wanting the same thing as you do as well. Myself being one of them.
I wish you success in this endeavor.
man, i am iniciant, i took my HTC TP in around 1 mounth, and one point that almost conviced me not to buy this pda was the 3g band.. i wait this more than you, lets wait if anyvody with much experience can post one help for us
one hug
Henrique
follow these threads and you will have your answer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420865
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451484
they haven't updated recently, which means there is no more 'news' on it.
you can try searching for 3G in the elite RC3 thread up in the sticky section.
they still don't have a solution either.
you can keep waiting.
Quick question, im looking into buying a cheap chinese phone because 1, im not picky about being top of the line, and 2, because its inexpensive. But ive been looking into and around the internet for supporting information stating if these chinese phones work on Tmobil, AT&T, Net 10 or Striaght talk. Here is the general break down fo these phones
Operation System: Android 4.0
·4.3 inch Capacitive Multi-touch screen, QHD (540*960)
·CPU:MTK6575 CPU 1GHZ Dual core
·Quadband: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz 3G WCDMA 900/2100MHz
Id like to know if this type phone would work with the above companies with both talk/txt/mms but also with 3g full US coverage. Thanks in advance
-Nick
Compare the GSM and 3G bands with a well known model at USA
But I cant get a straight answer out of anybody...
I know that the talking/txting/mms will work on the GSM bands provided but its the 3g that im thinking about
I see different things all over the place; some phones are 800/2100, 850/2100, 900/2100, and 1700/2100. The 2100 is prob the only consistent band, but i dont know if, say, 900 correlates to western US and 2100 correlates to eastern half. OR the 900 and 2100 cover ALL of US and you need just one of them. Besides that, several phones on I think tmobile such as the HD7, here's a link to what I mean,
http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-hd7-tmo.html
The top says 1700/2100 but the description states 900/2100 for 3g?!?
Heres a link to one of the phones I was talking about that I was looking into
http://www.fastcardtech.com/goods-7...ouch+Screen+WIFI+G-sensor+3G+smart+phone.html
Thanks,
Rico
Any thoughts on if this phone covers AT&T or Tmobile? Id appreciate any help, thanks guys
Rico
For AT&T, the band is 850/1900 MHz for both GSM and WCDMA 3G. For T-Mobile 850/1900 MHz GSM and 1700 MHz for WCDMA 3G. If your phone is WCDMA 900/2100, 3G will not work for both AT&T and T-mobile. You must have at least one band that matches with your network. For best 3G coverage, both bands must be supported by the phone.
Have a look at this phone with WCDMA 2100MHz (800/850/1900 optional) here: www.chinaphonereview.com/samhave-aone-shanghe-a1
Also look at these phones that have 850/2100 WCDMA bands: www.chinaphonereview.com/zopo-zp100 and www.chinaphonereview.com/zopo-zp200.
Cool, thanks for the link man, I like the ShangHe Aone 3G Android 4.0 you recommended. Do you know of any others? Im just looking for android 4.0 and a nice (not super nice) 4.3'' screen. I was also looking into an Ezio H7 but its android 2.3 and im not sure of the screen quality. Any thoughts? thanks in advance.
I also found these phones with 850/2100 MHz WCDMA bands: Star Xperia S LT26 and THL V9.
The THL V9 has a 4.3 inch screen with qHD resolution (960 x 540 pixels) and Android 2.3 but I think it has already an Android 4.0 update. You might want to check it out.
I was looking into those as well as IHTC 310x or something like that, but the 3g bands are 850/2100 but i need 850/1900. Any other phone references you know of?
Thanks y'all
nick
Hell, ill take a phone with 1700/2100 bands too... if they exist... which i doubt in china.
Most Chinese phones I know are 850/2100 or 900/2100. The ShangHe Aone may be the only dual SIM phone with optional 850/900/1900 bands.
The Meizu MX has a WCDMA/HSDPA band of 850/900/1700/1900/2100 MHz. This phone is high-end, with dual core 1.4 GHz CPU. It also has a quad core version named Meizu MX Quad-Core. Both are very affordable for their specs.
Anyone make any progress in getting this figured out? I've been looking into buying a chinese phone to use on t mobile and it looks like most of them operate WCDMA for 3G speeds, which won't work on t-mobile. Does anyone actually have one now that they're using?
Seany D said:
Anyone make any progress in getting this figured out? I've been looking into buying a chinese phone to use on t mobile and it looks like most of them operate WCDMA for 3G speeds, which won't work on t-mobile. Does anyone actually have one now that they're using?
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you need one with both 1700 and 2100 in order to get 3g hspa unless your in a coverage area where tmo already supports 1900. in some areas where im at people i know with crapple iphones get 3g where tmo has refarmed thier netwok they are working on getting this frequency to more areas so its wait and see
Seany D said:
Anyone make any progress in getting this figured out? I've been looking into buying a chinese phone to use on t mobile and it looks like most of them operate WCDMA for 3G speeds, which won't work on t-mobile. Does anyone actually have one now that they're using?
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Simple answer....NO
I too was looking to buy a chinese phone with hope that I would be able to get 3G on Tmobile. Tmobile's 3G unfortunately runs on the 1700 MHz band. If you don't see that band in the phones description you will only get 2G aka EDGE network on TMobile.
So this phone wouldn't work with Tmobile?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DHL-...00-phone-for-n7100-smart-phone/737394584.html
PRODUCTION INFO
Model
for N7100
Network
GSM 900/1800 MHZ /GSM850/1900MHZ
WCDMA 2100MHZ /900 MHZ
Processor(CPU)
MTK 6577 1.2GHz Cortex A9 Dual Core
I don't know for America, and I am not a techie myself, but from what I understand, you have to look at the frequencies the phone proposes.
In Belgium, 3G works on 900 / 2100 MHz, if the phone doesn't support this, you will fall back to 2G.
for the example above
Tmobile's 3G unfortunately runs on the 1700 MHz band
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GSM 900/1800 MHZ /GSM850/1900MHZ
WCDMA 2100MHZ /900 MHZ
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-> looks like you will be falling back to 2G :/
It will work
airnique23 said:
Simple answer....NO
I too was looking to buy a chinese phone with hope that I would be able to get 3G on Tmobile. Tmobile's 3G unfortunately runs on the 1700 MHz band. If you don't see that band in the phones description you will only get 2G aka EDGE network on TMobile.
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In addition to 1700 MHz, T-Mobile also supports 2100 MHz so 3G will work where you get 2100 coverage in USA.
Source: .worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
iamrico00 said:
Quick question, im looking into buying a cheap chinese phone because 1, im not picky about being top of the line, and 2, because its inexpensive. But ive been looking into and around the internet for supporting information stating if these chinese phones work on Tmobil, AT&T, Net 10 or Striaght talk. Here is the general break down fo these phones
Operation System: Android 4.0
·4.3 inch Capacitive Multi-touch screen, QHD (540*960)
·CPU:MTK6575 CPU 1GHZ Dual core
·Quadband: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz 3G WCDMA 900/2100MHz
Id like to know if this type phone would work with the above companies with both talk/txt/mms but also with 3g full US coverage. Thanks in advance
-Nick
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also remember when buying chinese phone, their government doesn't allow google or ggogle play store to be installed stock so you will have to root it and manually install this also
Techminator said:
In addition to 1700 MHz, T-Mobile also supports 2100 MHz so 3G will work where you get 2100 coverage in USA.
Source: .worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
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This is not entirely correct. Part of T-Mobile's HSPA network operates on the hybrid AWS 1700/2100 Mhz frequency where one part is uplink and one downlink, which is not the same as operating solely on 2100 Mhz frequency like many of the Chinese phones work with and many other countries use. They are not compatible.
However, that being said, their HSPA network also works on the 1900 Mhz frequency in most major metro areas of the US now as well as many other parts and many of the world phones do support that.
I'm trying to do my research, and the phone seems to support the right frequencies.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41599
https://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=HTC-One-Glacial-Silver
But then I saw this article (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2416536,00.asp) saying that the DE won't really support T-Mobile LTE. Is that true?
I'm also concerned that I won't get Wifi calling with the DE on T-mobile.
Please help me figure this out.
Edit: looks like wifi calling is possible (not out of the box) while HSPA+ and LTE won't work that well.
I think it dosent support's 1700 band which t-mobile uses in some places.
I wont get it
why take a risk?
The Developer Edition supports these frequencies:
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
That means it only suppers 3G (HSPA) on 1900 Mhz, but not on AWS (1700/2100 Mhz). So you will only get 3G if you are in a "refarmed" area, where T-Mobile has refarmed some of its 1900 Mhz spectrum away from 2G to 3G. People's experiences vary.
I don't see any reason why the Dev Edition won't work with T-Mobile LTE, since it supports AWS for LTE, which is the frequency set that T-Mobile and AT&T both use. I'm not sure why PC magazine feels unsure about this. If you search around, I'm pretty sure there are already people in this forum reporting getting T-Mobile LTE on both the AT&T version and the Developer Edition (which are basically the same phone). There also appear to already be other threads on this topic, so you can find more people's experiences if you search around.
As for the WiFi Calling, you will definitely not have access to that. Someone may be able to port it at a future time, but I wouldn't count on it.
You will be able to flash a T-Mobile Rom on the developer edition.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Tmobile with fine with my dev edition in NYC with stock rom and radio. But the speed seems to be slower than what people have been posting here, 6~10mb download and 1~2mb upload. I am not sure if it's a regional issue.
SmiLey497 said:
You will be able to flash a T-Mobile Rom on the developer edition.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Beta
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Yes, but that does not mean that you will gain AWS HSPA+. You would get wifi calling however. People have already tried this...
stevedebi said:
Yes, but that does not mean that you will gain AWS HSPA+. You would get wifi calling however. People have already tried this...
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WiFi calling is what I was referring to.
Hi there- I've moved to a country where the LTE is on band 3, or 1800 mhz. I know that with some phones, firmware updates/flashes enable frequencies not previously available. Is there such a thing for the AT&T HTC One? I thought there might be, given some editions of the One support 1800, so I thought maybe it was a dumb artificial limitation imposed by AT&T.
This country also has a "TD-LTE" freq of 2300, but I'm afraid I'm not sure what that is.
Thanks in advance for any help!
bpaquette said:
Hi there- I've moved to a country where the LTE is on band 3, or 1800 mhz. I know that with some phones, firmware updates/flashes enable frequencies not previously available. Is there such a thing for the AT&T HTC One? I thought there might be, given some editions of the One support 1800, so I thought maybe it was a dumb artificial limitation imposed by AT&T.
This country also has a "TD-LTE" freq of 2300, but I'm afraid I'm not sure what that is.
Thanks in advance for any help!
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HI im also having the same problam i think the Tmobile LTE works on 1900 but here in sri lanka its 1800... have u found any solutions??
im desperately looking for one...
one suggestion that may work is install an ATT rom and and unlock ur device maywork