I forget where i saw it posted, but do people feel it makes any difference whether you flash a ROM with the sd card in, or the sim?
i tried flashing with all combinations and they all worked. But just to be on the safe side I try to remember to take both out when flashing.
my first few flashes i removed SIM and SD card, then i got lazy and just started flashing with them in. I've probably flashed 15 or more times with them both in and haven't run into any problems.
Dyaus said:
my first few flashes i removed SIM and SD card, then i got lazy and just started flashing with them in. I've probably flashed 15 or more times with them both in and haven't run into any problems.
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Same here lol
never took out either. nothing has ever happened.
I used to take them both out for every single flash.
Now I just take the SD card out so TomTom wont start installing if I left files on there by accident.
(also while I flash I clear out all the crap and pile of CABs I build up on there through a card reader)
SIM card stays in to autodetect if the rom wasnt optimized for ATT.
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Ditto. No probs here.
I always flash from sd card, so not much choice
Does anyone know why this is discouraged to begin with? Do any chefs have any insight into this?
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Does anyone know why this is discouraged to begin with? Do any chefs have any insight into this?
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try using the forum's wonderful search function
Maybe its due to other models of phones that might format sd cards, memory cards or other storage mediums when being flashed. But seems here its all good for the Raph for now
I recall reading somewhere here that the only reason for removing sim was to prevent incoming calls from interrupting the flash process. Only reason to remove sd card was to prevent unwanted software installation.
No i BELEIVE DUE TO THE EARLY STAGES OF SPL MODIFICATION IN PREVIOUS PHONES SUCH AS THE HERMES, IN MY CASE THE 8125. tHIS WAS THE PROCEDURE WHEN FLASHING BACK IN THE DAY. This has not been the case for quite some time. sorry for caps but dont feel like editing on my phone.
the same
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I always flash from sd card, so not much choice
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only Hard SPL with PC
im doing also with SD card and let sim on TP and do hard reset when finish !!!
reason : flashing via SD card more..more..more faster than flashing with PC
cheers
indra9110
HyoImowano said:
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With the UC (User Customization) support in ROMs now you need the SD card as it contains the customizations. I've flashed my phone more times than I can count and I have never removed either the sim or sd card.
I have NEVER removed sd or SIM whilst flashing, you literally CANNOT get interrupted during a flash process as your device is in SPL mode.
Leave them in, dont worry it will be fine.
There's at least one possible issue that you could run into flashing with an SD card in the slot, you might be booted up into winmo, start the flashing process, but have RAPHIMG.NBH or RAPHDIAG.NBH on your sd card, and the bootloader will stick there giving you a prompt to flash/boot that or continue..
that's stopped me in my tracks once or twice because I started flashing and didn't notice the prompt, so it didn't go anywhere and i had to start over.. but just a minor inconvenience
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Hi, can anyone explain to me why the MicroSD needs to be removed before flashing a ROM? I have flashed my phone at least 6 times in the past fortnight (got to love all these new ROMs ) and a couple of times I forgot to remove the MicroSD card. I have not noticed any ill effect, nor did it impact the flashing at all. From my experience it seems to be much ado about nothing. I'm curious to know where the recommendation has come from.
Mike
Hi Mike,
i can verify that flashing without removing SD Card causes problems on my T-Mob Ameo / HTC Athena. It seems that some devices cannot be flashed with inserted card. Didn't try to flash my smartflip yet, but i would still recommend to remove it (at least for unexperienced users).
Best regards
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Hi Mike,
i can verify that flashing without removing SD Card causes problems on my T-Mob Ameo / HTC Athena. It seems that some devices cannot be flashed with inserted card. Didn't try to flash my smartflip yet, but i would still recommend to remove it (at least for unexperienced users).
Best regards
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I have flashed my STRTRk about 5 times now, and left the SD card in. Never had any problems.
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Hi, can anyone explain to me why the MicroSD needs to be removed before flashing a ROM? I have flashed my phone at least 6 times in the past fortnight (got to love all these new ROMs ) and a couple of times I forgot to remove the MicroSD card. I have not noticed any ill effect, nor did it impact the flashing at all. From my experience it seems to be much ado about nothing. I'm curious to know where the recommendation has come from.
Mike
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It is not necessary to remove MicroSD card when flashing StarTrek
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Hi Mike,
i can verify that flashing without removing SD Card causes problems on my T-Mob Ameo / HTC Athena. It seems that some devices cannot be flashed with inserted card. Didn't try to flash my smartflip yet, but i would still recommend to remove it (at least for unexperienced users).
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And I've flashed my Ameo many times with the card in with no problems.
What problems do you have when flashing with the card in? If they are easy enough to fix then I think the advice should be 'don't worry about it buit if you have problems then the first thing to try is to remove the memory card'
If, on the other hand, it totally screws your phone then maybe we should always remove the card just in case.
I've flashed my 3125 a few times with the microSD card in place, and didn't have problems. However, the last time I flashed, all of the data on my card was corrupted. I lost everything, including two months worth of detailed work notes.
I realize that it can be a pain to remove the microSD card from the StrTrk, but to me it's one minute well spent to keep from potentially frying my data.
The SD card slot on my phone seems to be broken. I've tried multiple SD cards and none of them seem to get read, so I've concluded that it must be the phone.
Im trying to unroot it so I can send it to verizon for a replacement. I was kind of depending on this method to do it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792026
but obviously I need the use of the SD card. So I'm kind of in a pickle.
Is there any other way to do it? Something that doesnt need an SD card?
The "Official" 2.1 RUU Utility (= Leak-V3) requires no SD Card
MultiUpload.com - RUU_Desire_C_Verizon_WWE_2.36.605.1_release_signed _with_driver.exe
It runs on your Windows PC.
Charge your phone well (say, > 80%)
Turn it off
Plug it in to your PC (still off)
Start the Eris up in fastboot mode (Send+End)
Run the above (HTC) utility - follow the instructions on the screen.
Thanks, man. Just ran it. Worked perfectly.
Just got to install a few apps before I take it in so that it doesn't look too barebones >_>
This is really strange. I just put in the SD card, to see if it was still broken and it magically worked again @[email protected]
I tried with the same SD cards that I used when I was rooted and they all worked as well.
I guess this means I dont have to turn it in, but this is still very strange.
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This is really strange. I just put in the SD card, to see if it was still broken and it magically worked again @[email protected]
I tried with the same SD cards that I used when I was rooted and they all worked as well.
I guess this means I dont have to turn it in, but this is still very strange.
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Bummer or Not Bummer? I'm not sure. Nothing like an intermittent problem to give you plenty of confidence.
Well, if you don't take it in, at least you will get more practice at rooting.
If you want to be one of cool kids on the block, you can update the unrooted RUU (= Leak-V3) software to the July 2010 OTA using the honest-to-goodness factory codes. You might want to do this anyway, because it will install the July 2010 HTC radio, if not for the "fun" involved.
Go visit this thread:
Consolidated HTC RUU, Leak, and OTA Downloads
and grab the "4th OTA" which converts 2.36.605.1 -> 2.37.605.4; the file name is
OTA_Desire_C_Verizon_WWE_2.37.605.4_2.36.605.1_release.zip
You rename it to "update.zip", and put it on your SD card in the root folder, then:
- verify the file length and MD5 checksum (of the copy of the file on the SD card)
- charge your phone fully
- power your phone off and boot into recovery mode
(either Vol-Up+End, or HBOOT(Vol-Down+End) -> recovery)
- you will get that screen with the triangle and exclamation point; when that is showing, press Vol-Up+End again, and you will see the stock recovery menu.
- Choose the one that says something about SD:update.zip (or similar)
- Let it run through until it reboots (I can't recall, it may reboot twice).
Then, when you root this, you can take a Nandroid backup - then you will have a Nandroid backup of the July 2010 "Factory" configuration. The "cool kid on the block" part is that almost nobody has ever done this - most Eris rooters were already rooted when July 15-17 rolled around, or if they were stuck not rooted on Leak-V3, they got the OTA automatically. Very few people have actually ever used the factory recovery menu on the Eris. (I have done it just to look at it.)
Cheers
bftb0
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This is really strange. I just put in the SD card, to see if it was still broken and it magically worked again @[email protected]
I tried with the same SD cards that I used when I was rooted and they all worked as well.
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Did you happen to partition your SD cards for apps2sd on a rooted 2.1 ROM and then try installing a Froyo ROM? If so, that is an explanation - (most) of the Froyo ROMs will not mount an SD card with more than one partition on it.
If this is the case, and you still want a Froyo ROM, you can backup the contents of your SD card, use Amon's Recovery to partition it again (setting the size of the ext2 and swap partitions to 0 bytes), and you should be ok. If the fact that your SD cards were partitioned was the issue...
Good catch doogald - I just assumed that this wasn't the case because the OP mentioned more than one SD card.
No, I was using a Froyo rom.
Also, I forgot to point out that it wasn't the first time it's happened. The Last time, however, I was able to get it to work again after a reboot. When I did get it to work, half the stuff on the card was missing. Luckily I had it all backed up, so it wasn't too much of a hassle.
This time, I couldn't get it to recognize the card at all, even after several reboots and trying several different cards.
But like I said, it works now. Ill probably re-root it again this weekend when I have the time. Hopefully, things work out differently this time.
My micro SD card reader doesn't work at all not even recognize my MICRO SD card and none of them i have tried 4 micro sd card, from normal sd card to sdHC.. I have been using Gingerblur and the external SD card was not working properly then I flash back to 4.1.83 to get my Bootloader Unlock so in 4.1.83 the External SD card was not working at all.... I have tried a lot of memories, I tested them in a pc micro sd card reader and all was working properly in the PC but my atrix don't recognize any micro SD card that i put in... So now Im in recovery mode and i Need the E: Disk to flash a zip file for navalynt's mode I dont know what to do!
Exchange it. Had the same issue, only fix.
I've had this happen on my MyTouch 4g and my old G1. I think at some point rooting ends up corrupting the cards. I don't think this is an atrix problem. The only thing that worked for me was wiping and formatting the memory card again. Because it works in the computer you just make a backup. As far as being in recovery you just need to boot out of it that's not a big deal.
There is a known issue with the contacts in the sdcard slot in the Atrix. There is a fix which involves bending a pin slightly, but I would return the phone for exchange/repair rather than risk messing it up yourself. I would think this is your likely problem. You could try moving the sdcard around in the slot and putting a wee bit of pressure on it to see if it suddenly shows on your phone. This could possibly verify that the slot is the problem.
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Exchange it. Had the same issue, only fix.
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I´m currently living in Ecuador south America I bought this phone on ebay, so it is a little difficult to me to exchange it, im trying to deal with the seller...
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I've had this happen on my MyTouch 4g and my old G1. I think at some point rooting ends up corrupting the cards. I don't think this is an atrix problem. The only thing that worked for me was wiping and formatting the memory card again. Because it works in the computer you just make a backup. As far as being in recovery you just need to boot out of it that's not a big deal.
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Maybe it is because the problem started strongly since I flash Gingerblur and when I flashed back to 4.1.83 and unlock the bootloader I noticed that it hasn´t been working when I was trying to see CWM 4 to flash Gingerblur again, im going to reformat my SD card but I think that this maybe it is not going to fix my problem.
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There is a known issue with the contacts in the sdcard slot in the Atrix. There is a fix which involves bending a pin slightly, but I would return the phone for exchange/repair rather than risk messing it up yourself. I would think this is your likely problem. You could try moving the sdcard around in the slot and putting a wee bit of pressure on it to see if it suddenly shows on your phone. This could possibly verify that the slot is the problem.
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Could you give intructions or a link to try to fix it, because the seller could refund me a portion of the money paid to fix it or I can return it because i already bought another one new but REFURBISHED, this phones have a lots of issues, wifi, fingerprint, etc... My samsung captivate never gave me such problems...
I took the sd card then put it again with pressure and without pressure, i tried but in anyway I have tried no respond was given from the atrix.. so it is not recognized at all...
CaelanT said:
There is a known issue with the contacts in the sdcard slot in the Atrix. There is a fix which involves bending a pin slightly, but I would return the phone for exchange/repair rather than risk messing it up yourself. I would think this is your likely problem. You could try moving the sdcard around in the slot and putting a wee bit of pressure on it to see if it suddenly shows on your phone. This could possibly verify that the slot is the problem.
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before you guys go and return any phone unnecessarily, please swap out for another SD card as it may simply be that the SD card became corrupt with flashing a new ROM (as does happen), there is absolutely no reason to assume it is a hardware issue until you have attempted another SD card first, if another SD card does not work then yes get Motorola to fix it, otherwise, you will need a card reader to format your SD card to fat32 iirc
Why resurrect a 10 month old thread???? I think the OP has moved on by now.
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well since I found this thread through searching for a solution for my problem, I figured I should update with another solution in case others find the same thread through searching
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which ROM you used?
On this method and without MAGLDR is formatted - a facility of the formatting from Windows.
This facility - after WP7, but not after blocking SD-cards.
does this work if the SD card was fully looked like in the Xboxmod/Yuki ROM?
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which ROM you used?
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I tried with HD2O, Pdaimatejam, cotulla's, XBMOD rom. and the result was almost the same.
kovalDN said:
On this method and without MAGLDR is formatted - a facility of the formatting from Windows.
This facility - after WP7, but not after blocking SD-cards.
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I didnt get your question mate. Can you be more clear...?
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does this work if the SD card was fully looked like in the Xboxmod/Yuki ROM?
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Yes it does. I tried with my 8 GB Samsung Class 4 Micro SD Card. Everytime I tried it worked. Let me know how it goes on your end...
ok,lets be clear on this because there is a lot of confusion over whats locked and what isnt.
a locked card if plugged in to a windows PC will displaying NOTHING in My computer, there will be an device in device manager tho, it is not possible to even see the card in most (all i am aware of) formatting programs including SDformatter
a card thats unlocked (but unusable) can be seen and edited in admin tools> computer management, you can format it in anything, all thats happened is that the filesystem info is unknown, windows is great for doing this itsself without the need of any further programs.
So to be clear, your saying that doing this will wipe the secure partition on the SD card there by wiping the key and deleting the encryption covering the whole device?
all the ROMs bar xbmods do not use a locked SD card so that can be fixed in windows, xbmods ROM can be unlocked but by default it is locked, this is the one that catches people out. If folk would actually read up on what they are doing they would know that you should unlock the SD card BEFORE flashing a new ROM if you previously had xbmods rom, if you forget to do that then simply flash the xbmod ROM back on to it and unlock it next time.
Its really very simple
ive just read your post again and your cards are not locked, plugging a Locked SD card in to a card read will give you absolutely no access to it at all other than being able to see it in device manager, whatever it is your doing, your card isnt locked, sorry.
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ok,lets be clear on this because there is a lot of confusion over whats locked and what isnt.
a locked card if plugged in to a windows PC will displaying NOTHING in My computer, there will be an device in device manager tho, it is not possible to even see the card in most (all i am aware of) formatting programs including SDformatter
a card thats unlocked (but unusable) can be seen and edited in admin tools> computer management, you can format it in anything, all thats happened is that the filesystem info is unknown, windows is great for doing this itsself without the need of any further programs.
So to be clear, your saying that doing this will wipe the secure partition on the SD card there by wiping the key and deleting the encryption covering the whole device?
all the ROMs bar xbmods do not use a locked SD card so that can be fixed in windows, xbmods ROM can be unlocked but by default it is locked, this is the one that catches people out. If folk would actually read up on what they are doing they would know that you should unlock the SD card BEFORE flashing a new ROM if you previously had xbmods rom, if you forget to do that then simply flash the xbmod ROM back on to it and unlock it next time.
Its really very simple
ive just read your post again and your cards are not locked, plugging a Locked SD card in to a card read will give you absolutely no access to it at all other than being able to see it in device manager, whatever it is your doing, your card isnt locked, sorry.
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When you clear the MBR on the SD via MAGLDR then it just destroys Table of partitions thus gives you the disk in the RAW format. Which you can format in WindowS. I have tried this method with XbMod rom without unlocking the card in the ROM.
PS: The key here is that, you have to clear the SD MBR(Master Boot Record) via MAGLDR prior to inserting the card in the PC. (Either by using the MASS STG method or the via CARD READER). Hope this clarifies the doubt...
Remove your guide man its embarrassing...
warriorvibhu said:
Remove your guide man its embarrassing...
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Obeyed.....
Thanks for being so harsh...
You with these ROM tried Your method?
[ROM] Back to the Future [XBmod-Yuki]
Sorry. As the guide has been embarrassing so I removed it.
contactwajeeh said:
Sorry. As the guide has been embarrassing so I removed it.
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The time and effort you put into your guide is admirable and appreciated, but unfortunately, dazza9075 is correct about the locked cards.
This thread still is the best for those who do not want to reinstall the Back the Future ROM to unlock their SD cards, if one can find a Nokia phone or other listed device near at hand.
There are rumors the new MAGDLR under development for our Leo phones will include a utility to unlock these locked cards. Hopefully this is not wishful dreaming.
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The time and effort you put into your guide is admirable and appreciated, but unfortunately, dazza9075 is correct about the locked cards.
This thread still is the best for those who do not want to reinstall the Back the Future ROM to unlock their SD cards, if one can find a Nokia phone or other listed device near at hand.
There are rumors the new MAGDLR under development for our Leo phones will include a utility to unlock these locked cards. Hopefully this is not wishful dreaming.
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I tried my method in the XBMOD Rom after fully testing it I posted here. But anyways I will do it one more time when I reach home and then confirm it back. I did have two cards locked by xbmod rom and this procedure worked out for them. But for the confirmation sake I will do it one more time tonight and will post back the results...
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I tried my method in the XBMOD Rom after fully testing it I posted here. But anyways I will do it one more time when I reach home and then confirm it back. I did have two cards locked by xbmod rom and this procedure worked out for them. But for the confirmation sake I will do it one more time tonight and will post back the results...
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Do let us know the result of your experiment. It does not work for me unfortunately, but I may have buggered the card in another way. Anyway, I do appreciate the time and effort you have put into this, and happy that you are willing to share on this forum.
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Obeyed.....
Thanks for being so harsh...
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OOps sorry dude .. i shud have tried to be poilitically correct and polite but since i was in hurry i just wrote one line in fact i agree ..and apologize i should have PMed you.. but anyhow to add to detail ::
If u have a card thats been encrypted and then u try to unlock it won't be detected by most of devices .. it once worked for me on a Nokia phone .. So check if that works .. also if u are using storage unlock from XBMod then thats ok.. Lets take a Case where someone is running Android from SD and has 2 cards one for WP7 too.. now he/she swaps the card to Android but as a mistake chooses to boot into WP7 .. trust me the card is gone ....Some Nokia phones and some other devices can rescue it otherwise its gone ...
Regards
Anybody try this yet? ezSD Ghost Clip.
http://tinyurl.com/87z9vh2
Its not the mbr that holds the secure area, deleting it makes no difference, a locked card is designed to not be viewable at all in a device its a special protected area often used for cache on higher class cards when used correctly it makes the card unreadable, Nokia phones are able to erase that area which turns off the secured feature which then lets devices access the cards storage space, however the contents of the storage area are still encrypted and as you have removed the secure area its completely unusable =)
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Its not the mbr that holds the secure area, deleting it makes no difference, a locked card is designed to not be viewable at all in a device its a special protected area often used for cache on higher class cards when used correctly it makes the card unreadable, Nokia phones are able to erase that area which turns off the secured feature which then lets devices access the cards storage space, however the contents of the storage area are still encrypted and as you have removed the secure area its completely unusable =)
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As always, thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I do have one quick question, once a locked card is formatted by a device such as a Nokia phone, is it possible to format the card again with a program such as SDFormatter to regain the storage capacity? That is what I understand, but never have tried. Of course, any formatting would remove the contents that would therefor be unusable.
hi everyone well last week ive tried many times over to install ics rom over my gingerbread and everytime this is what i get after i have completed followed the steps of how to upgrade to ics rom....when its trying to install the sd card can not be mounted...and repeats it many times over...so then i put phone into recovery so i can reboot...and it rebooted into the ics rom which i dont know how, but now my sd card is damaged and cant mount so i lose all my info no biggy....after reformatting the sd card, its ok...so i figure i would start it again...same thing.....i even did the steps but left the sd card out where you are suppose to and put back in when needed...still the same thing cant read sd card on install and after reboot sd card damaged need formatted...so i dont know what else to think except that i just cant simply get it flashed to the ics roms of any kind properly...if anyone can help thanks
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hi everyone well last week ive tried many times over to install ics rom over my gingerbread and everytime this is what i get after i have completed followed the steps of how to upgrade to ics rom....when its trying to install the sd card can not be mounted...and repeats it many times over...so then i put phone into recovery so i can reboot...and it rebooted into the ics rom which i dont know how, but now my sd card is damaged and cant mount so i lose all my info no biggy....after reformatting the sd card, its ok...so i figure i would start it again...same thing.....i even did the steps but left the sd card out where you are suppose to and put back in when needed...still the same thing cant read sd card on install and after reboot sd card damaged need formatted...so i dont know what else to think except that i just cant simply get it flashed to the ics roms of any kind properly...if anyone can help thanks
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buy a class6 or higher sd card and your issue will be solved.
As I said in my other post:
Sounds like you need a new SD card. Some of the stock cards don't play well with MTD based ROMs. I think it's a speed issue, and MTD based roms assume cards are at least a certain speed. I would probably get a Class 10 microSD card (be careful if you get 32gb, there are known problems with some of them)
I bought http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-microSDHC-Class-Memory-Adapter/dp/B0058GH4U0/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1335980268&sr=8-12 and have had no problems at all after!
thanks everyone for replying...i might have to just upgrade to a different card and see if that will solve the problem.
vk4559 said:
thanks everyone for replying...i might have to just upgrade to a different card and see if that will solve the problem.
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every since switching to a class 10 card, i have had no mounting issues or sd card damage errors since. my device also seems to be more tolerant of dirty flashing, before i had to always wipe data...also the phone seems faster loading apps, pictures etc.
droidstyle said:
every since switching to a class 10 card, i have had no mounting issues or sd card damage errors since. my device also seems to be more tolerant of dirty flashing, before i had to always wipe data...also the phone seems faster loading apps, pictures etc.
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droidstyle said:
every since switching to a class 10 card, i have had no mounting issues or sd card damage errors since. my device also seems to be more tolerant of dirty flashing, before i had to always wipe data...also the phone seems faster loading apps, pictures etc.
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