So, I have downloaded a Neon 300 dump but now I have no idea how to make it flashable. Is there a kind soul out there who would take pitty on a poor, unfortunate noob and make a flashable rom?
Pretty please with sugar on top?
Here is the original link to the download.
http://rapidshare.com/files/119433890/NikiDump.rar.html
big papa rich said:
So, I have downloaded a Neon 300 dump but now I have no idea how to make it flashable. Is there a kind soul out there who would take pitty on a poor, unfortunate noob and make a flashable rom?
Pretty please with sugar on top?
Here is the original link to the download.
http://rapidshare.com/files/119433890/NikiDump.rar.html
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Hi,
I have 3 Touch Dual Neon300's that have been sitting here for a few months because I've been too scared to flash a rom without having a factory original available to put it back. I figured that HTC would release one (I have an email in to their tech support but from my experience with them I will get nowhere) or something would pop up in here by now but alas I spent hours searching again the last few days with no luck except older NIKI ones or the same raw files you found. I've not cooked up my own rom yet but at this point I think I might just take a stab at it using dumps from one of mine. I don't plan on making any changes so should be stock except from what I can tell it'll still need to be SPL unlocked unlike a real official one. I'll post back in here if I find one that is flash ready or get one that works on mine. The good news is I do have more than one in case I F it up. lol
Btw, not sure what yours is/was but all 3 of mine are:
NEON300
ROM: 2.21.422.04
ROM date: 05/06/08
Radio: 1.65.20.19
Protocol: 25.86.40.04H
My wife is off scrapbooking tonight so I might as well play with my phones.
Bill
OK *some* luck so far. I dumped my stock NEON300 rom to the 4 raw files, downloaded nikikitchen from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361274 and extracted to c:\nikikitchen dropped Part01.raw & Part02.raw into BaseROM folder along with RUU_signed.nbh from RUU_NEON_Telstra_WWE_1.06.841.17_2_.exe (I figured it was the closest to the NEON300) that I grabbed from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3297430&postcount=4 (Pulled it out of the exe with winrar) Per this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2307423&postcount=17 I made these needed changes to htcrt_devices.ini
Added to [Devices]
Neon=1
Added new section:
[Neon]
Experimental=1
ModelId=NEON****
SignMaxChunkSize=64
RomSections=4, "0x200,SPL,262144,TRUE", "0x600,Splash,262144,FALSE", "0x301,Radio,17563648,TRUE", "0x400,OS,0,FALSE"
Other than that I walked through the steps running !BEGIN.cmd & !COOK.cmd making decisions per other guides I had seen for cooking or rebuilding roms.
For some unknown reason my 1st 2 tries would flash OK (after installing Oli's NEON SPL) but would stop on the rom/radio version screen. Hard resets did nothing to help get past that point. I fiddled around for awhile running thru things again, clearing out temp/TOM/OEM/SYS folders without much luck, trying other kitchens and other RUU_signed.nbh files until finally somehow I got a working copy using the old kaiserkitchen and using a NIKI RUU_signed.nbh file. It booted up & I was a happy camper! The odd things I noticed were that even after the customization on 1st boot ran & it restarted there were some icons missing such as Device Info and Clear Storage but many things were there. No idea why in the world that might be other than my assumption was that obviously something didn't transfer from from the original rom correctly. I went back to the nikikitchen and was able to build a rom that did the same thing. (Again no idea what I did different the times it worked vs the times it didn't.) Digging in to figure out what was there I found DeviceInfo.exe in \Windows (need to enable show all files in file explorer) and ran it to find the next odd things. The version shows as 1.13 and date in 09/07/07. It also shows the Model No as NIKI100 instead of NEON300 like before. In one of the earlier threads I saw a mention of the model # oddity but didn't find a fix but obviously even though the rom seems to have basic functionality (I didn't bother putting a sim in to make calls, test data etc at this point) it clearly is missing enough to probably not be too useful to anybody but I'd be willing to share it if someone was desperate enough for a 'stock' (I use that word loosely) NEON300 rom.
Well nuf fun workin on this for one day I'm tossin in the towel for now. Hopefully someone will come along with some experience with cooking (or in this case simply rebuilding stock roms from the raw files successfully) to help work out those few kinks so we all can have a good clean stock rom to throw back on if desired.
Bill
Success! After many attempts (and some *really* bad flashes) it seems I finally have a good 'stock' NEON300 rom. Everything appears to be there & even the rom version & id match before. The odd thing is storage space is 9MB more than my other true stock NEON300 (which I think was 'added' by the bigstoragemode) and 2MB less is used which makes me worry something is missing or maybe the rom was just optimized some during the rebuild. I need to put my sim in & test it some but if anyone wants to try it out let me know & I'll post it up otherwise I'll do so after I've tested it awhile.
Bill
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Success! After many attempts (and some *really* bad flashes) it seems I finally have a good 'stock' NEON300 rom. Everything appears to be there & even the rom version & id match before. The odd thing is storage space is 9MB more than my other true stock NEON300 (which I think was 'added' by the bigstoragemode) and 2MB less is used which makes me worry something is missing or maybe the rom was just optimized some during the rebuild. I need to put my sim in & test it some but if anyone wants to try it out let me know & I'll post it up otherwise I'll do so after I've tested it awhile.
Bill
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I'm trying to get my neon300 back to stock, this would be nice.
Cheers to Bill!
Wow, Bill. You are my f'ing hero! If you could upload your Rom, I would be grateful. I have two Neon300's. one is all factory (My wife's phone) and the other is currently running a Telstra rom.
Thank you so much for working on this, my bet is that a bunch of us are going to be really happy that you put this all together.
Very Respectfully,
Rich
P.S. I actually called HTC, and they told me they don't have any RUU's available for the neon300.
HTC Touch Dual US NEON300 WWE 2.21.422.04 Stock Rebuild
Rebuild Release date: 03/01/09
Attachment: NEON300_WWE_2.21.422.04_Stock_Rebuild.rar.torrent.zip (Please help seed the torrent)
Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MDDOSR19
PASSWORD: neon
HTC Touch Dual NEON300 WWE 'stock' (straight rebuild from original dump with no intentional changes made)
ROM: 2.21.422.04
ROM date: 05/06/08
Radio: NONE INCLUDED (Stock was Radio: 1.65.20.19 Protocol: 25.86.40.04H)
IMPORTANT: Since this is not true stock rom your NEON *MUST* have hardSPL. I used OliPro's Hard-SPL (Thanks!):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377260
WARNING!! DO NOT INSTALL ON A NIKI! I have tested on a NEON300 but it might work on other NEON's, check the thread for updated info.
Either way the standard disclaimer applies: USE AT YOUR OWN RISK & be sure to check out the thread to see other's experiences.
Note: Even though I made no changes to the ROM it seems rebuilding it (in particular ImgfsToNb's bigstorage mode) gave more storage available than true stock:
Storage:
Total: 129.16 MB
In use: 11.93 MB
Free: 117.23 MB
Program
Total: 110.83 MB
In use: 36.95 MB
Free: 64.88 MB
Thanks to NetrunnerAT for the NIKI Kitchen I used as a base: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1837580
Thanks to seth2006 for NIKICustomRUU.exe from SETHS V3 FINAL Neon_V3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419892
Super thanks goes out to all those who contributed NEON/NIKI info, those who made possible all the kitchens & related tools I used to get this ROM built.
Obviously if HTC would ever get their act together & release a RUU of a true stock rom this will be obsolete but until then this is the best bet for anyone looking for as close to stock for the NEON300 TOUCH DUAL US.
Hopefully others find this rebuild useful.
Bill
Neon 300 rebuild
As eager as most, I downloaded the RUU that Bill posted. It ran the update normally and then rebooted like normal. After the normal configuration (Time, date and all of that) it started to do the Automatic Customization where it hung at installing HTC.tsk.
I did a soft reset after about 10 minutes, after which it launched the customization again. This time it went smoothly, only hanging at the .tsk for maybe 10 or 20 seconds.
So far, I have been playing around with it and it looks identical to the rom that was pre-installed. If I run into any problems, I will be sure to post them.
Many thanks to you Bill. You have done a great job. I can’t speak for everyone, but I am sure that your hard work will be appreciated by all Neon owners.
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As eager as most, I downloaded the RUU that Bill posted. It ran the update normally and then rebooted like normal. After the normal configuration (Time, date and all of that) it started to do the Automatic Customization where it hung at installing HTC.tsk.
I did a soft reset after about 10 minutes, after which it launched the customization again. This time it went smoothly, only hanging at the .tsk for maybe 10 or 20 seconds.
So far, I have been playing around with it and it looks identical to the rom that was pre-installed. If I run into any problems, I will be sure to post them.
Many thanks to you Bill. You have done a great job. I can’t speak for everyone, but I am sure that your hard work will be appreciated by all Neon owners.
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Hey Big Papa Rich,
Cool thanks for trying it out. Weird you had a lockup at that point.. I wonder if it'd be best to force a hard reset before installing the rom or after installing as that is about the only thing that would make sense other than maybe something on the SD card or if your SIM was in maybe some in/out connectivity so maybe it'd help to have those pulled out.. What rom did you have on there before, I could try putting it on mine then switching back & see if it happens to me.. Dunno, maybe others can fill us in on their experiences & it might help narrow it down.
The only similar thing I had happen to me after installing one of my bad rebuilds (one of the ones that booted & installed but was missing many things like Device Info & clear storage etc) was that during the customization stage there were popup dialogs about some app failing (sorry I didn't make note because I automatically assumed the rom was bad & figured why bother) but it did actually finish the customization & reset as expected on it's own. The odd thing was I later did a hard reset & it didn't happen again so I suspect there must be remnants from an old rom or config still there that it was choking on & maybe yours was a similar thing.. I've read many times with other roms that a hard reset after upgrade fixes problems but always assumed it was 'user error' & not possible there could be remnants from an old rom/config left after a flash but maybe that was a bad assumption on my part.
I'm glad you got it working though & I hope it actually works correctly. If not I'll do my best to figure out a fix or rebuild it again as needed but being my 1st rom build it really was all trial & error so I am far from an expert on it. lol
Thanks for sharing your experience, should be helpful to others.
Bill
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Hey Big Papa Rich,
Cool thanks for trying it out. Weird you had a lockup at that point.. I wonder if it'd be best to force a hard reset before installing the rom or after installing as that is about the only thing that would make sense other than maybe something on the SD card or if your SIM was in maybe some in/out connectivity so maybe it'd help to have those pulled out.. What rom did you have on there before, I could try putting it on mine then switching back & see if it happens to me.. Dunno, maybe others can fill us in on their experiences & it might help narrow it down.
The only similar thing I had happen to me after installing one of my bad rebuilds (one of the ones that booted & installed but was missing many things like Device Info & clear storage etc) was that during the customization stage there were popup dialogs about some app failing (sorry I didn't make note because I automatically assumed the rom was bad & figured why bother) but it did actually finish the customization & reset as expected on it's own. The odd thing was I later did a hard reset & it didn't happen again so I suspect there must be remnants from an old rom or config still there that it was choking on & maybe yours was a similar thing.. I've read many times with other roms that a hard reset after upgrade fixes problems but always assumed it was 'user error' & not possible there could be remnants from an old rom/config left after a flash but maybe that was a bad assumption on my part.
I'm glad you got it working though & I hope it actually works correctly. If not I'll do my best to figure out a fix or rebuild it again as needed but being my 1st rom build it really was all trial & error so I am far from an expert on it. lol
Thanks for sharing your experience, should be helpful to others.
Bill
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I was using the Telstra Rom for the neon 200, WM6 pro. that was posted by Seth2006. Found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397654 It's an Asian Release, don't know if it really matters...
BTW, if there was ever a chance that something could be caused by user error, I would be the guy to discover it, LOL
big papa rich said:
I was using the Telstra Rom for the neon 200, WM6 pro. that was posted by Seth2006. Found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397654 It's an Asian Release, don't know if it really matters...
BTW, if there was ever a chance that something could be caused by user error, I would be the guy to discover it, LOL
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Ok thanks for the info. LOL I hear you, as hard as I try I often muck up stuff but have just gotten good at covering my tracks. hehe.
I think HTC Asia released it but I'm pretty sure Telstra is in Australia. I'll have to try it out *but* since that one is an official release it should have a radio built into it and I don't want to replace my stock radio until I am sure I can put mine back to stock.. By the looks of posts in the thread that Telstra rom has 1.58.25.17 radio in it but my stock NEON300 has 1.65.20.19. As far as I know my rebuild does not include a radio, or at least I don't think I included a radio.. Remember I am a n00b at building roms & at trial & error along with research stage. lol
Can you please confirm what radio yours shows after putting my rebuild on? My assumption is it should have been left what it was at the time you flashed which was likely 1.58.25.17 from the Telstra rom unless you had changed it.. In the meantime I am going to see if someone already posted a 1.65.20.19 neon radio and also see if I can build a radio rom from the dumps from my stock neon before I trash it.
Btw I assume the rom has been working OK for you so far? For me everything works as expected but my radio is still stock which should be a perfect match for this rom especially in the US since that is the area the NEON300 was released for vs the Telstra one which wasn't meant for the US but could very well work or not work very well.
Bill
bill48105 said:
Ok thanks for the info. LOL I hear you, as hard as I try I often muck up stuff but have just gotten good at covering my tracks. hehe.
I think HTC Asia released it but I'm pretty sure Telstra is in Australia. I'll have to try it out *but* since that one is an official release it should have a radio built into it and I don't want to replace my stock radio until I am sure I can put mine back to stock.. By the looks of posts in the thread that Telstra rom has 1.58.25.17 radio in it but my stock NEON300 has 1.65.20.19. As far as I know my rebuild does not include a radio, or at least I don't think I included a radio.. Remember I am a n00b at building roms & at trial & error along with research stage. lol
Can you please confirm what radio yours shows after putting my rebuild on? My assumption is it should have been left what it was at the time you flashed which was likely 1.58.25.17 from the Telstra rom unless you had changed it.. In the meantime I am going to see if someone already posted a 1.65.20.19 neon radio and also see if I can build a radio rom from the dumps from my stock neon before I trash it.
Btw I assume the rom has been working OK for you so far? For me everything works as expected but my radio is still stock which should be a perfect match for this rom especially in the US since that is the area the NEON300 was released for vs the Telstra one which wasn't meant for the US but could very well work or not work very well.
Bill
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Of one thing I am pretty sure of, is that the radio I have is not likely stock. I have flashed a couple of roms from Seth, and also the Telstra Rom. I then also downloaded and flashed a radio from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369502
I chose RUU Neon Radio 1.58.25.17N, whis was supposed to come from the original Neon, and is "Highly Recomended". Which, if I had simply READ your last reply, I could hav simply tod you that is is from the Telstra rom.
bill48105 said:
Btw I assume the rom has been working OK for you so far? For me everything works as expected but my radio is still stock which should be a perfect match for this rom especially in the US since that is the area the NEON300 was released for vs the Telstra one which wasn't meant for the US but could very well work or not work very well.
Bill
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It is strong! I have to tell you, I have had absolutely no issues so far. Good thing I didn't have much to do at work today, cause not much would have gotten done!
big papa rich said:
Of one thing I am pretty sure of, is that the radio I have is not likely stock. I have flashed a couple of roms from Seth, and also the Telstra Rom. I then also downloaded and flashed a radio from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369502
I chose RUU Neon Radio 1.58.25.17N, whis was supposed to come from the original Neon, and is "Highly Recomended". Which, if I had simply READ your last reply, I could hav simply tod you that is is from the Telstra rom.
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Oh Ok, thanks for clarifying that the radio is not in the rom I posted. I assumed that was the case but wasn't 100% certain since I had never replaced my radio on my neon.
Hmm yeah I just checked & 1.65.20.19 isn't available so I'll do some more digging to see if anyone has posted it otherwise I might have some work to do to build it myself. I assume having that radio will be useful to others and like with the rom I need that safety cushion to sleep at light. lol
Bill
bill48105 said:
Oh Ok, thanks for clarifying that the radio is not in the rom I posted. I assumed that was the case but wasn't 100% certain since I had never replaced my radio on my neon.
Hmm yeah I just checked & 1.65.20.19 isn't available so I'll do some more digging to see if anyone has posted it otherwise I might have some work to do to build it myself. I assume having that radio will be useful to others and like with the rom I need that safety cushion to sleep at light. lol
Bill
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If you find it, I would sure like to have it as well.
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If you find it, I would sure like to have it as well.
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Well after spending a few hours researching it doesn't look to be too likely I'll accomplish this task but I haven't given up yet. With all the radio-only rom's available out there I assume it can't be THAT hard to extract a radio! I could see if I wanted to modify it & hex-edit the crap outta it but I just want a straight copy that can be flashed back. Welp I'll keep digging but I have a feeling I'm gonna need to PM a few experts & hope to get some help but we'll see.
Bill
Small problem
Well, I have noticed that after every soft reset, even just after install, Voice Command crashes. It isn't something that I ever use so I didn't think much of it. The error i get is "Voice Command has quit due to low memery. Close running programs and try again."
Not a big deal to me, but I thought I would mention it.
big papa rich said:
Well, I have noticed that after every soft reset, even just after install, Voice Command crashes. It isn't something that I ever use so I didn't think much of it. The error i get is "Voice Command has quit due to low memery. Close running programs and try again."
Not a big deal to me, but I thought I would mention it.
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Hmm I'll have to try it on my NEON's (virgin & reflashed) & see if it does it. Did you do a hard reset to clear everything to ensure there weren't remnants from old roms? I wonder if the radio could have anything to do with it but I'd assume it wouldn't although programs that have been installed could.
Thanks for the feedback.
Bill
bill48105 said:
Hmm I'll have to try it on my NEON's (virgin & reflashed) & see if it does it. Did you do a hard reset to clear everything to ensure there weren't remnants from old roms? I wonder if the radio could have anything to do with it but I'd assume it wouldn't although programs that have been installed could.
Thanks for the feedback.
Bill
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I had not thought to do a hard reset. I have been busy loading it down with a ton of apps to see how it handles. Let me try it and I will post what I find.
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I had not thought to do a hard reset. I have been busy loading it down with a ton of apps to see how it handles. Let me try it and I will post what I find.
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Hard re-set went fine. Hung just a little on installing htc.tsk. Connection wizard ran after auto reset and started up again without any unusual events. I sat and stared at the screen until it went blank waiting for the error, but of course, no problem.
Fooled around with menus and apps, called voicemail. Nothing. Looks like whatever was causing the crash has stopped.
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Hi, I wanted to know that after flashing Hard-SPL on my Hermes, can I simply download the official HTC Mobile 6.0 rom and flash it on my Hermes, or do I need to use some specific utility to flash that HTC Official Mobile 6.0 rom?
right now I care about good performance but I want all the features too and more official ones ( i'd prefer microsofts browser over opera, windows media player over some other audio player ), would I be happier with some cooked rom like VP3G's Windows Mobile 6 v2.0 ( i find this quite popular ) or would the HTC Official do fine? Sorry for asking rom preference if it is not approved over here, then my main question would be
whether you need some utility to install the official HTC Mobile 6 rom or you simply run the 54.3 MB HTC_TyTN_WWE_3.54.255.3_6275_1.48.00.10_108.exe and follow the onscreen instructions?
I think that to install the official rom you don't need to HARD-SPL flash it.
Only if you have a cooked ROM or a ROM that's not an original to your phone you need HARD-SPL (example If you want to install the original HTC-ROM on a Orange phone or something like that).
I prefer the Schap's ROM, this one is stable and works quite nice.
I've removed the original HTC ROM within a day because it was slow, crashed too much and it uses a crappy PDF reader (I prefer Adobe this one is faster than the one HTC uses).
Once you have HardSPL, you can flash all you want.
Seriously, I would load up one, run it for a day or two and then try another one. Yeah, it takes some rebuilding each time (to re-sync data and relaod other apps), but it gets to be pretty quick and it will be worth it to get the ROM you like the best.
I agree that the Original ROMs seem to be more bloated and slower and often (ironically) less stable.
I have tried MANY and have settled on the Black ROMs (currently X RC). Slueth's was also GREAT, and I understand that VP3G and Schaps are also awesome, but I have not tried their most recent ones. You really cannot go wrong once you get going.
hmmmmm, I have flashed a Nokia E70 before ofcourse the experience is totally different but I know the basic precautionary measures, however, I was wondering how much of a risk would it be to be flashing new roms every other day, by the way I forgot to mention that I have/going to get in a few days Cingular 8525, thats why HTC rom isn't original for me...
I like these custom rom's but I have one question, I love the dark green look I saw somewhere on an ebay page, are the custom rom's hardcoded to a specific theme or you can change themes ( i don;t even know if windows mobile has themes in the first place ), if I am over my themeing problems, then I guess i gotta choose the rom thats all...
I am in USA right now but going to Pakistan in two weeks, I see this radio upgrade 1.43.00.00, is it worth upgrading to it? My uses are GPRS, GSM, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and maybe Infrared too...
If someone has tried quite a lot of rom's maybe he/she can suggest me a good rom to switch to?
As much as a clean simple hermes user i wanted to be, I am getting more and more pulled towards modding my hermes and trying all sorts of stuff
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I have tried MANY and have settled on the Black ROMs (currently X RC). Slueth's was also GREAT, and I understand that VP3G and Schaps are also awesome, but I have not tried their most recent ones. You really cannot go wrong once you get going.
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Is this Black Rom that you are talking about listed on this page? http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=6&id=13&Itemid=26
TyTN best rom upgrade?
I own a TyTN with rom version:1.18.255.3, date:07/22/06, radio: 1.03.03.10, ExtRom: 1.18.255.106
Although every post is very helpful, I still feel confused about the "right" upgrade for my device.
I tried to download the latest version from HTC official web site, but I still wait for a registration confirmation from them (one week ago ) and I can't download anything.
I have to admit that my TyTN works perfectly at the moment.
But I still want the latest version
Can someone help me?
Go to THIS LINK and then flash like a madman! It is fun and pretty safe (as long as you do the HardSPL upgrade). We were all nervous once, but now I am sure that I have flashed my phone at least 100 times.
Thanks a lot I'll try it and come back for sharing.
Which version do you prefer? How about the WM6 Black Majik?
Sorry for asking again, but I couldn't be able to do that for ... 100 times
Schaps 3.54c (4MB or even better 6MB pagepool) if you want to have Greek customisation after the install.
TyTNic said:
Thanks a lot I'll try it and come back for sharing.
Which version do you prefer? How about the WM6 Black Majik?
Sorry for asking again, but I couldn't be able to do that for ... 100 times
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Majik is a bit old now. I prefer the latest Black X RC release. Haven't checked in a few days, that could be old too Black Satin is newer than Majik also.
lagoskon is right about Schaps - his ROMs are good, Sleuth has some good ones, VP3G is well respected... really, I am not sure you can go wrong. I would just pick one and give it a try and if you don't like it, try another one. Only the first couple are difficult/scary. Do put Olipro's HardSPL on there first though - will keep you safe.
32M at boot I am running numerous apps and no problems......smooth and fast......I had 7 apps open at once and it ran them no problem....Skyfire, messaging, etc.......I have TL loaded and still sit at 25-26M....this is by far the best ROM I have run and it is not finished yet.....the camera is not loaded until NO2Chem finishes working on it....if your looking for memory....this is for you!!!!!
is the bluetooth working on it? also, what is the link for it?
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he has a fix for bluetooth, and here is the link. you must donate to download.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/
Sweet... I will wait till Someone finishes beta testing right now the release is only for Sprint Users and not for Verizon users.... I am looking foward when they have a verizon release.
Can you upload the newest No2chem rom, please?
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Can you upload the newest No2chem rom, please?
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lol...no....he said finals will be available for all, but beta builds for those who donate.....if you really want to try it, give him a buck. for all he has done for this device...people should really donate....
I just went up there and only see 6096-3pre1. Is that the rom you are talking about. Also,is it true these will work on Sprint only?
Donate, it is well worth it. Even if its only a small amount, it helps him out alot. and 3pre1 is the latest release. it is a very very stripped down version of wm but it works wonderfully. I can actually do stuff on my mogul now. Biggest noticable loss is no more camera, but he is working on that. IMO, best rom out there right now. Hands down. worth any penny in donations. I plan on donating more when i have the money to
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I just went up there and only see 6096-3pre1. Is that the rom you are talking about. Also,is it true these will work on Sprint only?
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works on my verizon got my internet and my vzw stuff
its an impressive beta release but no nuetools *sniffs*
just installed this. the screen switch is REALLY quick. my jawbone works nicely as well.
gmaps/voice command are fast too.
I have Mogul/2.47/3.42.50 & 2.04_003 w/ 60711
I donated, downloaded, and flashed. It's got a lot of memory available, but it's still buggy.
I went back to dcd 3.2.6, which also has good memory and is much less buggy with a working camera.
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I donated, downloaded, and flashed. It's got a lot of memory available, but it's still buggy.
I went back to dcd 3.2.6, which also has good memory and is much less buggy with a working camera.
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Can you elaborate as to what exactly was buggy?
indagroove said:
I donated, downloaded, and flashed. It's got a lot of memory available, but it's still buggy.
I went back to dcd 3.2.6, which also has good memory and is much less buggy with a working camera.
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What is buggy? I have mine loaded up with apps and have no issues at all...I had a scrolling issue where it kept scrolling on its own once....that was I first installed everything which was much earlier in the day.....been running 8-10 hours with no more issues at all.....
I flashed preview 1 last night, pulled out battery, put it back in, loaded my apps, and it ran like sh*t all day today. Great memory but very slow, buggy, half of my programs didn't work, and the battery life was terrible.
Since everyone else seemed to be having a grand time with it, I figured it was my error, and of course it was.
All it took was another hard reset, reinstall, now it runs like a charm
I've always heard people talk about these complex post-flashing rituals, but I figured it wasn't necessary. Well i guess it is a good idea to pull the battery, AND hard reset after a flash after all.
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What is buggy? I have mine loaded up with apps and have no issues at all...I had a scrolling issue where it kept scrolling on its own once....that was I first installed everything which was much earlier in the day.....been running 8-10 hours with no more issues at all.....
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The on-screen keyboard is buggy, you can't see the bottom row of characters.
I think enlarge start menu caused some problems with weirdness in the start menu.
I'm not a fan of the stock dialer, and when I tried to cab install the vogue dialer, the icon for call history was transparent to the today screen.
It seemed to run slower than dcd's rom after I added all my usual programs, even though I had more ram available.
I did not build from the kitchen, just added cabs to the pre-build, so maybe a kitchen build would be more stable. It could also be some non-compatable program that added overall bugginess.
Obviously no camera is kind of a bummer, even though i don't really use the camera all that much anyways.
Overall, I'd say it's a big step forward, and is groundbreaking in some ways. However, I still feel that today, dcd 3.2.6 is overall a more solid rom.
Sprint Users Only? Not really
Per No2Chem, the flash-ready rom is for Sprint. But the kitchen allows you to choose any carrier. I built mine from the kitchen. It took a little time to figure out how to use the kitchen and I can explain if someone needs helps.
Adjust OOM...?
Does anyone know what the 2 "Adjust OOM" options do in the nueROM3 kitchen?
I tried to find answers before posting but was unsuccessful. I just figured since the kitchen and rom itself were so stripped down, that No2Chem would not have made it a point to include them if they were useless, so yesterday I just checked them both and my phone seems fine so far...
Also - I tried posting this question on http://www.nuerom.com but when I hit "save comment" it just sits there and does not actually submit my post. Maybe I'm not signed there? is the login different than the donator login?
indagroove said:
The on-screen keyboard is buggy, you can't see the bottom row of characters.
I think enlarge start menu caused some problems with weirdness in the start menu.
I'm not a fan of the stock dialer, and when I tried to cab install the vogue dialer, the icon for call history was transparent to the today screen.
It seemed to run slower than dcd's rom after I added all my usual programs, even though I had more ram available.
I did not build from the kitchen, just added cabs to the pre-build, so maybe a kitchen build would be more stable. It could also be some non-compatable program that added overall bugginess.
Obviously no camera is kind of a bummer, even though i don't really use the camera all that much anyways.
Overall, I'd say it's a big step forward, and is groundbreaking in some ways. However, I still feel that today, dcd 3.2.6 is overall a more solid rom.
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1...on screen keyboard issue yes...
2 I am runnning Quick menu
3 I am running the Minimal dialer with no probs...
4. In my opinion it is the fatest rom I have used outside of JD's ROM
5. I added all of my apps and regedits through SASHAMI......and added a few OEM's through NuePackage installer.....
6 Camera is an ssue but he is working on that and I knew there was no camera before flashing....I know no camera is a deal breaker for now.....
It is a pre-release but I am sure it will all be working fine when the final build is done....but mine seems to be running fine really....
I am running my setup with WAD and WA3 as startup, usually always a slow go on my titan. I boot up with 27+mb of memory. I set my pagepool at 10 when i made the rom and am very happy. pre0 was a deal breaker for me cause he didn't have working bluetooth. But now that its in the rom again, i couldn't be happier.
Cobaltikus said:
Does anyone know what the 2 "Adjust OOM" options do in the nueROM3 kitchen?
I tried to find answers before posting but was unsuccessful. I just figured since the kitchen and rom itself were so stripped down, that No2Chem would not have made it a point to include them if they were useless, so yesterday I just checked them both and my phone seems fine so far...
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It has to do with the "Out Of Memory" in windows mobile. (see here http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms911907.aspx) Changing that basically adjust the way WinMo handles OOM's. By lowering the threshold, WinMo doesn't close down apps as eagerly as normal.
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I also must add that having the extra RAM makes this phone an entirely different beast for me. iGO8 and Opera Mobile 9.5 caused some issues before due to how RAM hungry they are. Now, they are not a problem. But not having the camera is kind of a bummer, and the keyboard is horrible . But I will continue testing because this has MAJOR potential
Cobaltikus said:
Per No2Chem, the flash-ready rom is for Sprint. But the kitchen allows you to choose any carrier. I built mine from the kitchen. It took a little time to figure out how to use the kitchen and I can explain if someone needs helps.
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I would love to try it - please do explain or pm me!
Hi...
just wondering , will you guys will hardspl your new phone and change to a cooked rom when you buy it for a week even few days ?
lantisy said:
Hi...
just wondering , will you guys will hardspl your new phone and change to a cooked rom when you buy it for a week even few days ?
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I use a cooked ROM beacuse the one that came with my phone, in my experience, is too unstable. Or the software I keep installing on it is...
Anyways, I might even try making my own ROM, if I just figure out how...
(yes, there are loads of tuts on net, found a nice one for Diamond here)
yep, the first day i used TP, i had a crash. So that day i changed my rom directly
I remember the first time when i flashed my fone. I was so nervous. reading reading and again reading, just to make sure.
Yeah, I remember when I flashed my tytn for the first time, it was nerve wracking!! I kept having flashbacks from when I attempted to upgrade my firmware on an HP PPC (non phone), and bricked it.
but the tytn went quite well, I should be getting my Fuze tomorrow, and i'll probably go with the soft reset during setup to avoid bloatware, then wait till something pisses me off enough to flash to NotATreoFan's ROM.
I'm soooo excited!
I literally purchased my Fuze last night, came directly home and flashed ROMeOS onto it. The AT&T ROM is just horrible. It's slow, ugly, bulky, just outright disgusting. I can actually foresee alot of returns on this unit from people who do not know about custom ROMs or XDA in general.
Lighting a Fuze
I used the stock ROM for less than 24 hours, by design, since I wanted some experience using Touch Flo. I did not like it. Touch Flo and my fat fingers do not a match make. I spend last night, yawn, installing ROMeOS 1.4 (I like Hang Tuah's stuff, I have since very early Kaiser/Tilt). Before ROMeOS, my favorite was Dutty's ROM. But even his ROMs, while virtually bulletproof, are "over full". I light light, simple, fast and able to handle the web, phone, contacts and calendar...simultaneously.
Still, with all the ROM changes I have made, each is a little nerve wracking. Since this was my first with the new Fuze, I read a lot of XDA forum entries. And did things exactly as Hang Tuah and others with experience suggested.
Worked perfectly. (Whew!!)
Deryl
lantisy said:
Hi...
just wondering , will you guys will hardspl your new phone and change to a cooked rom when you buy it for a week even few days ?
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My brand new pro booted 1 time the vodafone rom,used it 2minutes,after that i flasht it already
The original vodafone rom from the netherlands touch pro [email protected] ,cooked rom much faster/stable if you ask me
The second i had a chance, I put on romeos on my Fuze -
Installed the keyboard drivers, and some tweaks here and there.
Best choice so far.
Within 30 minutes of leaving the ATT store, my Fuze was running the Elite ROM. I've had enough devices to know that nothing stock is ever as good as something cooked up here!
zachoo said:
Within 30 minutes of leaving the ATT store, my Fuze was running the Elite ROM. I've had enough devices to know that nothing stock is ever as good as something cooked up here!
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I love cooked roms as well. While using the Diamond, I'd constantly be on the lookout for new versions of Dutty's roms. Now that I'm using a Raphael, I look out for the new versions of ROMeOS as well as the Elite versions to play around with.
I got my Touch pro about 10 days ago, It has the official 1.90.405 rom.
I find it very stable and serve all my need realy.
No crash, nothing what so ever of what I see people around here complaining about.
I must say I am very happy with this phone.
Regards
as soon i get it from expansis first thing what i did, change the spl is happened before actually i powered up the device 1st time. ... then just have fun....
This is my first windows mobile phone, came from a long line of sony ericsson phones, used the stock rom for a few days and figured this phone is going back to the shop.
Eventually i found my way here and read about the different roms, decided to flash and i think i have tried most of the known roms here by now
moral of the story is that now the phone is a keeper instead of a item i returned.
Currently using V09 by PDAVIET but will upgrade to V10 due to some bugs.
All i need now is a ssh client that uses the resolution of the phone in a proper way then im really happy.
zachoo said:
Within 30 minutes of leaving the ATT store, my Fuze was running the Elite ROM. I've had enough devices to know that nothing stock is ever as good as something cooked up here!
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same story here - got the phone earlier today, and as soon as i got in to work i was checking the forums to see what i needed to do to load up a custom rom.
shafez said:
I got my Touch pro about 10 days ago, It has the official 1.90.405 rom.
I find it very stable and serve all my need realy.
No crash, nothing what so ever of what I see people around here complaining about.
I must say I am very happy with this phone.
Regards
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I too like the original htc rom but I cannot stand the voice calling feature...I use microsoft voice command so I cooked up a rom and only removed a few things I did not like to be in rom and it runs stable as hell with no memory leaks and just do not trust all the **** others do with the rom. It runs perfect. Once htc comes out with a newer rom I will do the same thing unless I find a perfect rom that someone else makes. I did use other light versions cooked by others for the diamond but with the pro and all that damn memory it comes with its perfect without a few crappy programs that come with it.....
rxdoctor said:
I too like the original htc rom but I cannot stand the voice calling feature...I use microsoft voice command so I cooked up a rom and only removed a few things I did not like to be in rom and it runs stable as hell with no memory leaks and just do not trust all the **** others do with the rom. It runs perfect. Once htc comes out with a newer rom I will do the same thing unless I find a perfect rom that someone else makes. I did use other light versions cooked by others for the diamond but with the pro and all that damn memory it comes with its perfect without a few crappy programs that come with it.....
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I too Have been playing about cooking the stock Vodafone ROM. I flashed and unlocked it the day I got it as I got the handset on my work contract but wanted to use it on my Personal T-mobile contract as I have a 10GB data allowance on TMob I might release my ROM at some point as I personally thinki it is fast, light and stable. I Also cooked in a few other goodies such as .net CF 3.5 and the Youtube app from an ATT ROM I extracted.
tsaros-se said:
This is my first windows mobile phone, came from a long line of sony ericsson phones, used the stock rom for a few days and figured this phone is going back to the shop.
Eventually i found my way here and read about the different roms, decided to flash and i think i have tried most of the known roms here by now
moral of the story is that now the phone is a keeper instead of a item i returned.
Currently using V09 by PDAVIET but will upgrade to V10 due to some bugs.
All i need now is a ssh client that uses the resolution of the phone in a proper way then im really happy.
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Sounds almost the same as me, except I come from a background of Nokia phones, very happy with the phone now it is cooked
SSH client wise, I use pocketputty which I am very happy with, as ssh clients go, as it allows me to store a ppk file for auth.
i drove from the AT&T store directly to my home PC to flash my Fuze. cooked roms rule. plus it is fun to play with new toys.
The day i got my TP i installed HardSPL and right after that i went to 1 of the first cooked roms from chainfire (firerom).
Hey, sorry if this has been answered, but I have been poking around XDA and PPCGeeks and havent found an answer...
Is there a .cab file for Sense UI (Manila 2.5)?? or are there only roms with it cooked in?
Id like to keep the rom im running (stable, fast, and most importantly customized to my liking)
Thanks!
No. There is not and likely never will be a cab (or cabs) for sense. There's just too much stuff for a cab. It really needs to be cooked in.
there is a cab for manila 2.1 (which is almost just as good if you. can live without home screen weather,screenshots of your favorite sites/apps,colored tabs and a twitter tab).ive resorted to hunting it down and installing it on my htc 2.01 rom after numerous custom roms on here with this manila and the sense kept crashing on me, this is actually the only thing i have wanted out of those roms anyway.
Can you post a link to a version that works on the TP? Can't seem to find it.
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the manila 2.1 cab
sure click here follow the instructions word from word u do not want to make a single mistake at the expense of a hard reset.
thanks guys, i went ahead and flashed another rom, sorry i couldnt reply earlier, but i was having probs getting onto xda
CDMA Manilla 2.5 or 2.6
Does anyone know if there is a CDMA version of the Manilla 2.5 or 2.6 ROM?
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Does anyone know if there is a CDMA version of the Manilla 2.5 or 2.6 ROM?
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Here is one of the most updated ones:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=69545
There are also more here if you look around:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=68
Hope this helps
To those who said it couldn't be done
4 Door Skyline said:
Hey, sorry if this has been answered, but I have been poking around XDA and PPCGeeks and havent found an answer...
Is there a .cab file for Sense UI (Manila 2.5)?? or are there only roms with it cooked in?
Id like to keep the rom im running (stable, fast, and most importantly customized to my liking)
Thanks!
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No. There is not and likely never will be a cab (or cabs) for sense. There's just too much stuff for a cab. It really needs to be cooked in.
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I just came acorss it today and its the real deal. I am not involved in it but i will be testing it out very soon
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=108707
sense cab ...
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=108707
I installed this and here is what has happend thus far.
Installed without any errors... so far so good
Rebooted first time and it came up with an error with services.exe. Hit ok and it loaded sense... so far so good again... until it froze solid after about 30 seconds of it being loaded.
Reset it with the reset button as it was totally locked up, came up with same services.exe error and froze up right around the same time. Reset it again.
This time it came up without the services.exe error... seemed to work a bit longer until it froze up solid again.
Did a few more resets with no change. Decided to deactivate it from the today items.
Deactivated it before it was able to freeze. Restarted again and now it's not freezing.
Tried to re-enable TF3D and nothing. It unchecks itself after I hit OK.
Reset again and tried again. Same thing.
Now trying to uninstall it. Taking forever and not sure if it will totally remove it or not.
Maybe I am having trouble because I am using the Stock ATT 6.5 rom. I am really trying to avoid putting on a Custom rom as I have always had problems with them on my old phones (Wizard, TytnII).
Anyone else try it yet and had success?
Sad thing is, it works pretty smoothly until it just stops and locks up.
BTW, using the ATT Tilt 2.... my sig is pretty old.
guess I am the only one to try this cab on a TP2?
All these wonderful ROMs; I am impressed but:
1) I obtained my HTC Touch Pro by trading an unwanted/unneeded old notebook computer for it so kinda sorta in a way I got the phone "for nothing".
Addition: IE: I didn't purposely spent $400 to get this phone. I just got it.
2) I don't really need a pocket PC.
Addition: Not now. Not today. Maybe later.
3) I don't really need a smart phone.
Addition: The key word being "need". All I "need" right now is a phone. I'll trade all the cool fancyness for battery life. My old Straight Talk phone could sit there on standby for a week and not have the battery indicator drop more than a couple notches if even that much. I could use it for all week without charging it. Yes, I know the TP is a Pocket PC and a phone; just making a point.
4) The battery life on this thing is horrible (24 hours on standby costs 20%+ of the battery power) I assume it's because it's doing all those extra Pocket PC/Windows stuff in the background.
Addition: If I charge it before I go out and charge it while I'm out it may last the entire day but likely not.
5) All I really *need* is a camera phone. Phone calls, voicemail, text/media messages, snapshot and video, ...that's about it.
6) The extra unneeded stuff is taking up flash-ram space that could be used for storing pictures and video.
Addition: Strip it all out and I'll have room for lots of pic and videos.
7) Flashing back to the original ROM is easy and takes a few minutes so no harm done by "dumbing-down" the current ROM.
Addition: When I want the smart phone I'll flash on a super-duper all-singing-all-dancing ROM.
8) A Pocket PC is very cool but if I want a portable computer I have a much more powerful very nice netbook that is more or less a part of my body so I don't *need* another computer on my person.
That said, has anybody make a stripped down/basic/bare minumum/no frills/no extras/maximum battery life/minimum flash memory used/no fancy stuff/no wifi/gps/internet connection/nuttin-but-a-camera phone ROM?
Addition: IE: Don't do nothing but make calls and take pictures. Simple. Fast. Maximum battery life. A Dumb Phone (for now anyway).
Thanks.
P.S. No. I don't wish to trade it for a dumb phone. I may some day want a smart phone/Pocket PC but not right now.
Fred Doolie said:
4) The battery life on this thing is horrible (24 hours on standby costs 20%+ of the battery power) I assume it's because it's doing all those extra Pocket PC/Windows stuff in the background.
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I'm not sure what your expectations are, but only losing 20% in 24 hours is great! I doubt you'll do any better than that. An always active data connection, GPS, and Wi-Fi are the big things that are going to kill battery life, not the OS. I would make sure you have the matching rilphone.dll for the version of radio you are using, however.
Fred Doolie said:
That said, has anybody make a stripped down/basic/bare minumum/no frills/no extras/maximum battery life/minimum flash memory used/no fancy stuff/no wifi/gps/internet connection/nuttin-but-a-camera phone ROM?
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What you've basically described is a Stock ROM. These are basically just ROMs with the newest build of Windows Mobile and some essential apps, meaning that memory and CPU usage is low. But most of the things that consume battery are switch-off-able, such as the backlight, WiFi, 3G connection, GPS, Bluetooth etc. through the Settings menu or the Comm Manager. If you haven't flashed your phone to a custom ROM yet, you won't get much more basic than the standard 6.1 ROM that your carrier put on the phone to start with.
If you do want Windows Mobile 6.5 but don't want all the frills, you can either be brave and cook a stock-like ROM yourself, or try one from the forums:
[KITCHEN][ROM][WWE][MAR-13-2010] RomRom WM6.5 23547 stock-like Kitchen & ROM is the most updated stock-like kitchen/ROM.
rmcknight:
>I'm not sure what your expectations are, but only losing 20% in
> 24 hours is great!
But that's in Airplane mode (all radios off)! With the radios on it will stand by for about a day before the battery is dead.
Expectations:
"Standby time: Up to 462 hours for WCDMA"
"Talk time: Up to 378 minutes for WCDMA"
http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchpro/specification.html
Reality:
More like up to 120 hours and up to 90 minutes.
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Ben Dude,
>What you've basically described is a Stock ROM.
>meaning that memory and CPU usage is low.
>much more basic than the standard 6.1 ROM that your carrier
>put on the phone to start with.
Sad to hear. The ROM that came with the phone is full of extra stuff and sucks the battery like crazy. The Energy ROM I flashed has even more stuff seems to be easier on battery life. We'll see. This Energy ROM is very cool and maybe I DO want a smart phone right now. The main thing was the battery life. I thought stripping down a ROM would increase battery life due to less stuff running and taking up precious flashram space. Well, SD cards are cheap I guess. I can move as much as possible to external storage.
Maybe I'll have to learn to cook. A stripped-down stock ROM with *everything* removed except phone and camera software. It boots up to a nice wallpaper with two buttons that say "Phone" and "Camera". All radios except phone deactivated. It might be fun to learn how to do that.
Thanks, Guys.
I would happily trade you an LG Xenon for your Fuze.
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rmcknight:
Maybe I'll have to learn to cook. A stripped-down stock ROM with *everything* removed except phone and camera software. It boots up to a nice wallpaper with two buttons that say "Phone" and "Camera". All radios except phone deactivated. It might be fun to learn how to do that.
Thanks, Guys.
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You can try, but you'll still have to flash the entire operating system; as far as I know it's not as easy as what you've said. I suppose the closest would be a 6.1 ROM without Manila (HTC Sense), no bloatware installed and the hotkeys set as 'phone' and 'camera'. But I doubt that it would be worth trying to truly 'cook out' things like GPS, as they really can be switched off with one button press, and that's probably why nobody does (hence your search for a ROM ).
I've had amazing battery life using the ROM in my sig (dont even think about using android though-- it's fun but not ready for daily use).
install S2U2 -- it makes locking easier but also reduces how often the screen turns on in your pocket. You can set up the screen off delays and such and it saves you a ton of battery life.
Disable the touchflo home screen-- it's pretty superfluous and probably drains battery faster.
If battery life is really bad, consider buying a new one. Check the total talk time (start -> settings -> device information -> call duration) to get an idea of how used the phone is. Those counters don't reset when you flash a new ROM.
try timolols and turn off data.
@ Myrddin
I'll bet you would! Thanks but I want this phone; just trying to make it "My Phone" rather than "Sprint's Phone".
@Storm 717
>I've had amazing battery life using the
> ROM in my sig
I'll try it. As long as I still have my Sprint Picture Mail. It's the only app I really use and need.
>install S2U2 -- it makes locking easier
Been there done that. LOVE it!
>Disable the touchflo home screen
BTDT
>Check the total talk time (start ->
>settings -> device information ->
>call duration) to get an idea of how
>used the phone is.
What you talkin' 'bout, Willis?
See the screenshots.
As long as I have posted them, anybody see a problem with the versions and numbers?
just make sure if you flash to flash a CMDA one and not a GSM rom or you will likely brick your phone
jul644 said:
just make sure if you flash to flash a CMDA one and not a GSM rom or you will likely brick your phone
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Yes, I've read that and believe it but why? Wouldn't it just not work and then you flash a proper ROM over it?
I know that if you give a little donation to NRGZ or the Capn they can do a perfect ROM for your "need"
Talk to them!
I hate to promote my own ROM, but give my stock-like ROM a try. It's almost exactly what you describe.
Alternatively, I can whip up an even more stripped-down version if you like. Let me know.
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Yes, I've read that and believe it but why? Wouldn't it just not work and then you flash a proper ROM over it?
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its because the amount of voltage/wattage to the radio (the part that connects to the network) is different between gsm and cmda so when you flash a cmda rom on a gsm(sim card)phone then it literally breaks it and also happens vis-versa
response and modification request
jul644 said:
its because the amount of voltage/wattage to the radio (the part that connects to the network) is different between gsm and cmda so when you flash a cmda rom on a gsm(sim card)phone then it literally breaks it and also happens vis-versa
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Well, that's bad designing. You'd think there would be a check for that in the hardware in case some noobie tech at Sprint/Verizon/AT&T was really tired and tried to update your phone with the wrong ROM. Like a splashscreen saying "GSM Verizon Diamond ROM detected - This is a Touch Pro 1 CDMA Phone" and then it just stops dead on that screen with an endless do-nothing loop.
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MODIFICATION REQUEST, YOU BRAINS OUT THERE! CAN IT BE DONE?
SAVE US FROM OURSELVES! Can the phones be modified to detect improper ROMs so it doesn't even try to fully boot up/blow up? Some of us are really stu.. frightened noobies.
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Or a modification in the [one of those files in the RUU folder] that examines the phone and refuses to proceed if the .nbh filoes doesn't match the phone it sees".
Is there any other way to brick a phone. The child in me wants to play with cool stuff but the adult in me says if "it aint broke don't fix it! You don't need a $400 brick"!
* Yes, I know about Hackentosh but don't understand how it works.
On the official HTC site, you can only download a ROM after you type in your phone's serial number, which checks that you have the right hardware for the upgrade. As far as HTC care, this matter has been dealt with. I would guess that techs working for carriers probably have to input your SN too.
There are so many tutorials and guides on this site for first time flashers that if they don't read them first, it's their own fault for being ignorant. Most chefs will warn about it too.
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Most chefs will warn about it too.
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Yes but sadly a few don't. I have seen at least one post in the CDMA section that mentions way down "Remove the sim card while flashing the ROM". Oop, that's a GSM phone, no? If I would missed that one line I may have flashed that ROM by accident. Also, a few say something like "For the TP" but don't mention CDMA or GSM anywhere. You have to HOPE it's in the correct section. I just wanted to be 100% safe from accidents.
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Moot point though; I'm through with flashing. None of the ROMs I found were as smooth and fast as the stock ROM. Beautiful, oh yes, but slow and locking up the phone every little while. It stinks but it runs fine.
I think it's just probably because this site is dedicated to getting the most out of our devices and what you're looking for just doesn't fit in with that. In my experience, I've never had a slow, unstable or just unusable stock ROM. I think your best bet is just to buy a bigger microSD card if you want more space for media, stick with WM6.1 and switch off everything you don't need (3G connection, Wi-Fi, screen brightness, any bloatware, Bluetooth, you know the rest).
With regards to the CDMA/GSM issue, I've never really considered it because I've never been the first to try out a ROM. If it really was posted in the wrong section (which I think is unlikely) it would only take one person other than yourself to flash it and comment before everyone realised. Just make sure you're not that person
Fred Doolie said:
Well, that's bad designing. You'd think there would be a check for that in the hardware in case some noobie tech at Sprint/Verizon/AT&T was really tired and tried to update your phone with the wrong ROM. Like a splashscreen saying "GSM Verizon Diamond ROM detected - This is a Touch Pro 1 CDMA Phone" and then it just stops dead on that screen with an endless do-nothing loop.
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MODIFICATION REQUEST, YOU BRAINS OUT THERE! CAN IT BE DONE?
SAVE US FROM OURSELVES! Can the phones be modified to detect improper ROMs so it doesn't even try to fully boot up/blow up? Some of us are really stu.. frightened noobies.
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Or a modification in the [one of those files in the RUU folder] that examines the phone and refuses to proceed if the .nbh filoes doesn't match the phone it sees".
Is there any other way to brick a phone. The child in me wants to play with cool stuff but the adult in me says if "it aint broke don't fix it! You don't need a $400 brick"!
* Yes, I know about Hackentosh but don't understand how it works.
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First answer is that yes the manufacturers DO in fact have a way to block improper roms. This is why they initially have a CID lock. CID locks prevent the usage of Non-Carrier roms being installed on the phone. Once its had this lock removed, you are able to install non-factory firmwares ( like the ones these wonderful chefs create for us ). In a sense, you take it in your own hands if you flash the wrong firmware for your device, because you have already removed the protection from the carrier.
Second answer. A Hackintosh is computer not made by apple that is running Apples OSX. There are several ways to achieve this, one of which is using an EFI ( Apples Bios Type ) Emulator such as Chameleon or Boot123 , or by using a chipset capable of running the Vanilla ( OEM ) Kernel as is ( Specific Intel chipsets ). I could help direct you to the proper places to discuss this in a PM if you want further information.
Hope those answers helped some
pyraxiate said:
1) CID locks prevent the usage of Non-Carrier roms being installed on the phone.
2) A Hackintosh is computer not made by apple that is running Apples OSX.
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1) I see. Thanks.
Thought!
The official Sprint upgrade ROM package works on a locked phone. I've installed it. It flashed and worked.
The official Sprint upgrade ROM's .nph file is a signed ROM, right? A signed ROM will get past the CID lock.
You guys are geniuses. Why not put a "sign" code into a cooked ROM for safety? Leave the CID protection in place and let it block incorrect ROMS. Am I being too simplistic?
2) The hackintosh line was a leftover from when I was composing the post. I should have seen and removed it.