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32M at boot I am running numerous apps and no problems......smooth and fast......I had 7 apps open at once and it ran them no problem....Skyfire, messaging, etc.......I have TL loaded and still sit at 25-26M....this is by far the best ROM I have run and it is not finished yet.....the camera is not loaded until NO2Chem finishes working on it....if your looking for memory....this is for you!!!!!
is the bluetooth working on it? also, what is the link for it?
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he has a fix for bluetooth, and here is the link. you must donate to download.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/
Sweet... I will wait till Someone finishes beta testing right now the release is only for Sprint Users and not for Verizon users.... I am looking foward when they have a verizon release.
Can you upload the newest No2chem rom, please?
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Can you upload the newest No2chem rom, please?
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lol...no....he said finals will be available for all, but beta builds for those who donate.....if you really want to try it, give him a buck. for all he has done for this device...people should really donate....
I just went up there and only see 6096-3pre1. Is that the rom you are talking about. Also,is it true these will work on Sprint only?
Donate, it is well worth it. Even if its only a small amount, it helps him out alot. and 3pre1 is the latest release. it is a very very stripped down version of wm but it works wonderfully. I can actually do stuff on my mogul now. Biggest noticable loss is no more camera, but he is working on that. IMO, best rom out there right now. Hands down. worth any penny in donations. I plan on donating more when i have the money to
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I just went up there and only see 6096-3pre1. Is that the rom you are talking about. Also,is it true these will work on Sprint only?
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works on my verizon got my internet and my vzw stuff
its an impressive beta release but no nuetools *sniffs*
just installed this. the screen switch is REALLY quick. my jawbone works nicely as well.
gmaps/voice command are fast too.
I have Mogul/2.47/3.42.50 & 2.04_003 w/ 60711
I donated, downloaded, and flashed. It's got a lot of memory available, but it's still buggy.
I went back to dcd 3.2.6, which also has good memory and is much less buggy with a working camera.
indagroove said:
I donated, downloaded, and flashed. It's got a lot of memory available, but it's still buggy.
I went back to dcd 3.2.6, which also has good memory and is much less buggy with a working camera.
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Can you elaborate as to what exactly was buggy?
indagroove said:
I donated, downloaded, and flashed. It's got a lot of memory available, but it's still buggy.
I went back to dcd 3.2.6, which also has good memory and is much less buggy with a working camera.
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What is buggy? I have mine loaded up with apps and have no issues at all...I had a scrolling issue where it kept scrolling on its own once....that was I first installed everything which was much earlier in the day.....been running 8-10 hours with no more issues at all.....
I flashed preview 1 last night, pulled out battery, put it back in, loaded my apps, and it ran like sh*t all day today. Great memory but very slow, buggy, half of my programs didn't work, and the battery life was terrible.
Since everyone else seemed to be having a grand time with it, I figured it was my error, and of course it was.
All it took was another hard reset, reinstall, now it runs like a charm
I've always heard people talk about these complex post-flashing rituals, but I figured it wasn't necessary. Well i guess it is a good idea to pull the battery, AND hard reset after a flash after all.
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What is buggy? I have mine loaded up with apps and have no issues at all...I had a scrolling issue where it kept scrolling on its own once....that was I first installed everything which was much earlier in the day.....been running 8-10 hours with no more issues at all.....
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The on-screen keyboard is buggy, you can't see the bottom row of characters.
I think enlarge start menu caused some problems with weirdness in the start menu.
I'm not a fan of the stock dialer, and when I tried to cab install the vogue dialer, the icon for call history was transparent to the today screen.
It seemed to run slower than dcd's rom after I added all my usual programs, even though I had more ram available.
I did not build from the kitchen, just added cabs to the pre-build, so maybe a kitchen build would be more stable. It could also be some non-compatable program that added overall bugginess.
Obviously no camera is kind of a bummer, even though i don't really use the camera all that much anyways.
Overall, I'd say it's a big step forward, and is groundbreaking in some ways. However, I still feel that today, dcd 3.2.6 is overall a more solid rom.
Sprint Users Only? Not really
Per No2Chem, the flash-ready rom is for Sprint. But the kitchen allows you to choose any carrier. I built mine from the kitchen. It took a little time to figure out how to use the kitchen and I can explain if someone needs helps.
Adjust OOM...?
Does anyone know what the 2 "Adjust OOM" options do in the nueROM3 kitchen?
I tried to find answers before posting but was unsuccessful. I just figured since the kitchen and rom itself were so stripped down, that No2Chem would not have made it a point to include them if they were useless, so yesterday I just checked them both and my phone seems fine so far...
Also - I tried posting this question on http://www.nuerom.com but when I hit "save comment" it just sits there and does not actually submit my post. Maybe I'm not signed there? is the login different than the donator login?
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The on-screen keyboard is buggy, you can't see the bottom row of characters.
I think enlarge start menu caused some problems with weirdness in the start menu.
I'm not a fan of the stock dialer, and when I tried to cab install the vogue dialer, the icon for call history was transparent to the today screen.
It seemed to run slower than dcd's rom after I added all my usual programs, even though I had more ram available.
I did not build from the kitchen, just added cabs to the pre-build, so maybe a kitchen build would be more stable. It could also be some non-compatable program that added overall bugginess.
Obviously no camera is kind of a bummer, even though i don't really use the camera all that much anyways.
Overall, I'd say it's a big step forward, and is groundbreaking in some ways. However, I still feel that today, dcd 3.2.6 is overall a more solid rom.
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1...on screen keyboard issue yes...
2 I am runnning Quick menu
3 I am running the Minimal dialer with no probs...
4. In my opinion it is the fatest rom I have used outside of JD's ROM
5. I added all of my apps and regedits through SASHAMI......and added a few OEM's through NuePackage installer.....
6 Camera is an ssue but he is working on that and I knew there was no camera before flashing....I know no camera is a deal breaker for now.....
It is a pre-release but I am sure it will all be working fine when the final build is done....but mine seems to be running fine really....
I am running my setup with WAD and WA3 as startup, usually always a slow go on my titan. I boot up with 27+mb of memory. I set my pagepool at 10 when i made the rom and am very happy. pre0 was a deal breaker for me cause he didn't have working bluetooth. But now that its in the rom again, i couldn't be happier.
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Does anyone know what the 2 "Adjust OOM" options do in the nueROM3 kitchen?
I tried to find answers before posting but was unsuccessful. I just figured since the kitchen and rom itself were so stripped down, that No2Chem would not have made it a point to include them if they were useless, so yesterday I just checked them both and my phone seems fine so far...
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It has to do with the "Out Of Memory" in windows mobile. (see here http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms911907.aspx) Changing that basically adjust the way WinMo handles OOM's. By lowering the threshold, WinMo doesn't close down apps as eagerly as normal.
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I also must add that having the extra RAM makes this phone an entirely different beast for me. iGO8 and Opera Mobile 9.5 caused some issues before due to how RAM hungry they are. Now, they are not a problem. But not having the camera is kind of a bummer, and the keyboard is horrible . But I will continue testing because this has MAJOR potential
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Per No2Chem, the flash-ready rom is for Sprint. But the kitchen allows you to choose any carrier. I built mine from the kitchen. It took a little time to figure out how to use the kitchen and I can explain if someone needs helps.
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I would love to try it - please do explain or pm me!
So, I have downloaded a Neon 300 dump but now I have no idea how to make it flashable. Is there a kind soul out there who would take pitty on a poor, unfortunate noob and make a flashable rom?
Pretty please with sugar on top?
Here is the original link to the download.
http://rapidshare.com/files/119433890/NikiDump.rar.html
big papa rich said:
So, I have downloaded a Neon 300 dump but now I have no idea how to make it flashable. Is there a kind soul out there who would take pitty on a poor, unfortunate noob and make a flashable rom?
Pretty please with sugar on top?
Here is the original link to the download.
http://rapidshare.com/files/119433890/NikiDump.rar.html
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Hi,
I have 3 Touch Dual Neon300's that have been sitting here for a few months because I've been too scared to flash a rom without having a factory original available to put it back. I figured that HTC would release one (I have an email in to their tech support but from my experience with them I will get nowhere) or something would pop up in here by now but alas I spent hours searching again the last few days with no luck except older NIKI ones or the same raw files you found. I've not cooked up my own rom yet but at this point I think I might just take a stab at it using dumps from one of mine. I don't plan on making any changes so should be stock except from what I can tell it'll still need to be SPL unlocked unlike a real official one. I'll post back in here if I find one that is flash ready or get one that works on mine. The good news is I do have more than one in case I F it up. lol
Btw, not sure what yours is/was but all 3 of mine are:
NEON300
ROM: 2.21.422.04
ROM date: 05/06/08
Radio: 1.65.20.19
Protocol: 25.86.40.04H
My wife is off scrapbooking tonight so I might as well play with my phones.
Bill
OK *some* luck so far. I dumped my stock NEON300 rom to the 4 raw files, downloaded nikikitchen from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361274 and extracted to c:\nikikitchen dropped Part01.raw & Part02.raw into BaseROM folder along with RUU_signed.nbh from RUU_NEON_Telstra_WWE_1.06.841.17_2_.exe (I figured it was the closest to the NEON300) that I grabbed from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3297430&postcount=4 (Pulled it out of the exe with winrar) Per this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2307423&postcount=17 I made these needed changes to htcrt_devices.ini
Added to [Devices]
Neon=1
Added new section:
[Neon]
Experimental=1
ModelId=NEON****
SignMaxChunkSize=64
RomSections=4, "0x200,SPL,262144,TRUE", "0x600,Splash,262144,FALSE", "0x301,Radio,17563648,TRUE", "0x400,OS,0,FALSE"
Other than that I walked through the steps running !BEGIN.cmd & !COOK.cmd making decisions per other guides I had seen for cooking or rebuilding roms.
For some unknown reason my 1st 2 tries would flash OK (after installing Oli's NEON SPL) but would stop on the rom/radio version screen. Hard resets did nothing to help get past that point. I fiddled around for awhile running thru things again, clearing out temp/TOM/OEM/SYS folders without much luck, trying other kitchens and other RUU_signed.nbh files until finally somehow I got a working copy using the old kaiserkitchen and using a NIKI RUU_signed.nbh file. It booted up & I was a happy camper! The odd things I noticed were that even after the customization on 1st boot ran & it restarted there were some icons missing such as Device Info and Clear Storage but many things were there. No idea why in the world that might be other than my assumption was that obviously something didn't transfer from from the original rom correctly. I went back to the nikikitchen and was able to build a rom that did the same thing. (Again no idea what I did different the times it worked vs the times it didn't.) Digging in to figure out what was there I found DeviceInfo.exe in \Windows (need to enable show all files in file explorer) and ran it to find the next odd things. The version shows as 1.13 and date in 09/07/07. It also shows the Model No as NIKI100 instead of NEON300 like before. In one of the earlier threads I saw a mention of the model # oddity but didn't find a fix but obviously even though the rom seems to have basic functionality (I didn't bother putting a sim in to make calls, test data etc at this point) it clearly is missing enough to probably not be too useful to anybody but I'd be willing to share it if someone was desperate enough for a 'stock' (I use that word loosely) NEON300 rom.
Well nuf fun workin on this for one day I'm tossin in the towel for now. Hopefully someone will come along with some experience with cooking (or in this case simply rebuilding stock roms from the raw files successfully) to help work out those few kinks so we all can have a good clean stock rom to throw back on if desired.
Bill
Success! After many attempts (and some *really* bad flashes) it seems I finally have a good 'stock' NEON300 rom. Everything appears to be there & even the rom version & id match before. The odd thing is storage space is 9MB more than my other true stock NEON300 (which I think was 'added' by the bigstoragemode) and 2MB less is used which makes me worry something is missing or maybe the rom was just optimized some during the rebuild. I need to put my sim in & test it some but if anyone wants to try it out let me know & I'll post it up otherwise I'll do so after I've tested it awhile.
Bill
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Success! After many attempts (and some *really* bad flashes) it seems I finally have a good 'stock' NEON300 rom. Everything appears to be there & even the rom version & id match before. The odd thing is storage space is 9MB more than my other true stock NEON300 (which I think was 'added' by the bigstoragemode) and 2MB less is used which makes me worry something is missing or maybe the rom was just optimized some during the rebuild. I need to put my sim in & test it some but if anyone wants to try it out let me know & I'll post it up otherwise I'll do so after I've tested it awhile.
Bill
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I'm trying to get my neon300 back to stock, this would be nice.
Cheers to Bill!
Wow, Bill. You are my f'ing hero! If you could upload your Rom, I would be grateful. I have two Neon300's. one is all factory (My wife's phone) and the other is currently running a Telstra rom.
Thank you so much for working on this, my bet is that a bunch of us are going to be really happy that you put this all together.
Very Respectfully,
Rich
P.S. I actually called HTC, and they told me they don't have any RUU's available for the neon300.
HTC Touch Dual US NEON300 WWE 2.21.422.04 Stock Rebuild
Rebuild Release date: 03/01/09
Attachment: NEON300_WWE_2.21.422.04_Stock_Rebuild.rar.torrent.zip (Please help seed the torrent)
Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MDDOSR19
PASSWORD: neon
HTC Touch Dual NEON300 WWE 'stock' (straight rebuild from original dump with no intentional changes made)
ROM: 2.21.422.04
ROM date: 05/06/08
Radio: NONE INCLUDED (Stock was Radio: 1.65.20.19 Protocol: 25.86.40.04H)
IMPORTANT: Since this is not true stock rom your NEON *MUST* have hardSPL. I used OliPro's Hard-SPL (Thanks!):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377260
WARNING!! DO NOT INSTALL ON A NIKI! I have tested on a NEON300 but it might work on other NEON's, check the thread for updated info.
Either way the standard disclaimer applies: USE AT YOUR OWN RISK & be sure to check out the thread to see other's experiences.
Note: Even though I made no changes to the ROM it seems rebuilding it (in particular ImgfsToNb's bigstorage mode) gave more storage available than true stock:
Storage:
Total: 129.16 MB
In use: 11.93 MB
Free: 117.23 MB
Program
Total: 110.83 MB
In use: 36.95 MB
Free: 64.88 MB
Thanks to NetrunnerAT for the NIKI Kitchen I used as a base: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1837580
Thanks to seth2006 for NIKICustomRUU.exe from SETHS V3 FINAL Neon_V3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419892
Super thanks goes out to all those who contributed NEON/NIKI info, those who made possible all the kitchens & related tools I used to get this ROM built.
Obviously if HTC would ever get their act together & release a RUU of a true stock rom this will be obsolete but until then this is the best bet for anyone looking for as close to stock for the NEON300 TOUCH DUAL US.
Hopefully others find this rebuild useful.
Bill
Neon 300 rebuild
As eager as most, I downloaded the RUU that Bill posted. It ran the update normally and then rebooted like normal. After the normal configuration (Time, date and all of that) it started to do the Automatic Customization where it hung at installing HTC.tsk.
I did a soft reset after about 10 minutes, after which it launched the customization again. This time it went smoothly, only hanging at the .tsk for maybe 10 or 20 seconds.
So far, I have been playing around with it and it looks identical to the rom that was pre-installed. If I run into any problems, I will be sure to post them.
Many thanks to you Bill. You have done a great job. I can’t speak for everyone, but I am sure that your hard work will be appreciated by all Neon owners.
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As eager as most, I downloaded the RUU that Bill posted. It ran the update normally and then rebooted like normal. After the normal configuration (Time, date and all of that) it started to do the Automatic Customization where it hung at installing HTC.tsk.
I did a soft reset after about 10 minutes, after which it launched the customization again. This time it went smoothly, only hanging at the .tsk for maybe 10 or 20 seconds.
So far, I have been playing around with it and it looks identical to the rom that was pre-installed. If I run into any problems, I will be sure to post them.
Many thanks to you Bill. You have done a great job. I can’t speak for everyone, but I am sure that your hard work will be appreciated by all Neon owners.
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Hey Big Papa Rich,
Cool thanks for trying it out. Weird you had a lockup at that point.. I wonder if it'd be best to force a hard reset before installing the rom or after installing as that is about the only thing that would make sense other than maybe something on the SD card or if your SIM was in maybe some in/out connectivity so maybe it'd help to have those pulled out.. What rom did you have on there before, I could try putting it on mine then switching back & see if it happens to me.. Dunno, maybe others can fill us in on their experiences & it might help narrow it down.
The only similar thing I had happen to me after installing one of my bad rebuilds (one of the ones that booted & installed but was missing many things like Device Info & clear storage etc) was that during the customization stage there were popup dialogs about some app failing (sorry I didn't make note because I automatically assumed the rom was bad & figured why bother) but it did actually finish the customization & reset as expected on it's own. The odd thing was I later did a hard reset & it didn't happen again so I suspect there must be remnants from an old rom or config still there that it was choking on & maybe yours was a similar thing.. I've read many times with other roms that a hard reset after upgrade fixes problems but always assumed it was 'user error' & not possible there could be remnants from an old rom/config left after a flash but maybe that was a bad assumption on my part.
I'm glad you got it working though & I hope it actually works correctly. If not I'll do my best to figure out a fix or rebuild it again as needed but being my 1st rom build it really was all trial & error so I am far from an expert on it. lol
Thanks for sharing your experience, should be helpful to others.
Bill
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Hey Big Papa Rich,
Cool thanks for trying it out. Weird you had a lockup at that point.. I wonder if it'd be best to force a hard reset before installing the rom or after installing as that is about the only thing that would make sense other than maybe something on the SD card or if your SIM was in maybe some in/out connectivity so maybe it'd help to have those pulled out.. What rom did you have on there before, I could try putting it on mine then switching back & see if it happens to me.. Dunno, maybe others can fill us in on their experiences & it might help narrow it down.
The only similar thing I had happen to me after installing one of my bad rebuilds (one of the ones that booted & installed but was missing many things like Device Info & clear storage etc) was that during the customization stage there were popup dialogs about some app failing (sorry I didn't make note because I automatically assumed the rom was bad & figured why bother) but it did actually finish the customization & reset as expected on it's own. The odd thing was I later did a hard reset & it didn't happen again so I suspect there must be remnants from an old rom or config still there that it was choking on & maybe yours was a similar thing.. I've read many times with other roms that a hard reset after upgrade fixes problems but always assumed it was 'user error' & not possible there could be remnants from an old rom/config left after a flash but maybe that was a bad assumption on my part.
I'm glad you got it working though & I hope it actually works correctly. If not I'll do my best to figure out a fix or rebuild it again as needed but being my 1st rom build it really was all trial & error so I am far from an expert on it. lol
Thanks for sharing your experience, should be helpful to others.
Bill
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I was using the Telstra Rom for the neon 200, WM6 pro. that was posted by Seth2006. Found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397654 It's an Asian Release, don't know if it really matters...
BTW, if there was ever a chance that something could be caused by user error, I would be the guy to discover it, LOL
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I was using the Telstra Rom for the neon 200, WM6 pro. that was posted by Seth2006. Found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397654 It's an Asian Release, don't know if it really matters...
BTW, if there was ever a chance that something could be caused by user error, I would be the guy to discover it, LOL
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Ok thanks for the info. LOL I hear you, as hard as I try I often muck up stuff but have just gotten good at covering my tracks. hehe.
I think HTC Asia released it but I'm pretty sure Telstra is in Australia. I'll have to try it out *but* since that one is an official release it should have a radio built into it and I don't want to replace my stock radio until I am sure I can put mine back to stock.. By the looks of posts in the thread that Telstra rom has 1.58.25.17 radio in it but my stock NEON300 has 1.65.20.19. As far as I know my rebuild does not include a radio, or at least I don't think I included a radio.. Remember I am a n00b at building roms & at trial & error along with research stage. lol
Can you please confirm what radio yours shows after putting my rebuild on? My assumption is it should have been left what it was at the time you flashed which was likely 1.58.25.17 from the Telstra rom unless you had changed it.. In the meantime I am going to see if someone already posted a 1.65.20.19 neon radio and also see if I can build a radio rom from the dumps from my stock neon before I trash it.
Btw I assume the rom has been working OK for you so far? For me everything works as expected but my radio is still stock which should be a perfect match for this rom especially in the US since that is the area the NEON300 was released for vs the Telstra one which wasn't meant for the US but could very well work or not work very well.
Bill
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Ok thanks for the info. LOL I hear you, as hard as I try I often muck up stuff but have just gotten good at covering my tracks. hehe.
I think HTC Asia released it but I'm pretty sure Telstra is in Australia. I'll have to try it out *but* since that one is an official release it should have a radio built into it and I don't want to replace my stock radio until I am sure I can put mine back to stock.. By the looks of posts in the thread that Telstra rom has 1.58.25.17 radio in it but my stock NEON300 has 1.65.20.19. As far as I know my rebuild does not include a radio, or at least I don't think I included a radio.. Remember I am a n00b at building roms & at trial & error along with research stage. lol
Can you please confirm what radio yours shows after putting my rebuild on? My assumption is it should have been left what it was at the time you flashed which was likely 1.58.25.17 from the Telstra rom unless you had changed it.. In the meantime I am going to see if someone already posted a 1.65.20.19 neon radio and also see if I can build a radio rom from the dumps from my stock neon before I trash it.
Btw I assume the rom has been working OK for you so far? For me everything works as expected but my radio is still stock which should be a perfect match for this rom especially in the US since that is the area the NEON300 was released for vs the Telstra one which wasn't meant for the US but could very well work or not work very well.
Bill
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Of one thing I am pretty sure of, is that the radio I have is not likely stock. I have flashed a couple of roms from Seth, and also the Telstra Rom. I then also downloaded and flashed a radio from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369502
I chose RUU Neon Radio 1.58.25.17N, whis was supposed to come from the original Neon, and is "Highly Recomended". Which, if I had simply READ your last reply, I could hav simply tod you that is is from the Telstra rom.
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Btw I assume the rom has been working OK for you so far? For me everything works as expected but my radio is still stock which should be a perfect match for this rom especially in the US since that is the area the NEON300 was released for vs the Telstra one which wasn't meant for the US but could very well work or not work very well.
Bill
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It is strong! I have to tell you, I have had absolutely no issues so far. Good thing I didn't have much to do at work today, cause not much would have gotten done!
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Of one thing I am pretty sure of, is that the radio I have is not likely stock. I have flashed a couple of roms from Seth, and also the Telstra Rom. I then also downloaded and flashed a radio from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369502
I chose RUU Neon Radio 1.58.25.17N, whis was supposed to come from the original Neon, and is "Highly Recomended". Which, if I had simply READ your last reply, I could hav simply tod you that is is from the Telstra rom.
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Oh Ok, thanks for clarifying that the radio is not in the rom I posted. I assumed that was the case but wasn't 100% certain since I had never replaced my radio on my neon.
Hmm yeah I just checked & 1.65.20.19 isn't available so I'll do some more digging to see if anyone has posted it otherwise I might have some work to do to build it myself. I assume having that radio will be useful to others and like with the rom I need that safety cushion to sleep at light. lol
Bill
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Oh Ok, thanks for clarifying that the radio is not in the rom I posted. I assumed that was the case but wasn't 100% certain since I had never replaced my radio on my neon.
Hmm yeah I just checked & 1.65.20.19 isn't available so I'll do some more digging to see if anyone has posted it otherwise I might have some work to do to build it myself. I assume having that radio will be useful to others and like with the rom I need that safety cushion to sleep at light. lol
Bill
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If you find it, I would sure like to have it as well.
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If you find it, I would sure like to have it as well.
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Well after spending a few hours researching it doesn't look to be too likely I'll accomplish this task but I haven't given up yet. With all the radio-only rom's available out there I assume it can't be THAT hard to extract a radio! I could see if I wanted to modify it & hex-edit the crap outta it but I just want a straight copy that can be flashed back. Welp I'll keep digging but I have a feeling I'm gonna need to PM a few experts & hope to get some help but we'll see.
Bill
Small problem
Well, I have noticed that after every soft reset, even just after install, Voice Command crashes. It isn't something that I ever use so I didn't think much of it. The error i get is "Voice Command has quit due to low memery. Close running programs and try again."
Not a big deal to me, but I thought I would mention it.
big papa rich said:
Well, I have noticed that after every soft reset, even just after install, Voice Command crashes. It isn't something that I ever use so I didn't think much of it. The error i get is "Voice Command has quit due to low memery. Close running programs and try again."
Not a big deal to me, but I thought I would mention it.
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Hmm I'll have to try it on my NEON's (virgin & reflashed) & see if it does it. Did you do a hard reset to clear everything to ensure there weren't remnants from old roms? I wonder if the radio could have anything to do with it but I'd assume it wouldn't although programs that have been installed could.
Thanks for the feedback.
Bill
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Hmm I'll have to try it on my NEON's (virgin & reflashed) & see if it does it. Did you do a hard reset to clear everything to ensure there weren't remnants from old roms? I wonder if the radio could have anything to do with it but I'd assume it wouldn't although programs that have been installed could.
Thanks for the feedback.
Bill
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I had not thought to do a hard reset. I have been busy loading it down with a ton of apps to see how it handles. Let me try it and I will post what I find.
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I had not thought to do a hard reset. I have been busy loading it down with a ton of apps to see how it handles. Let me try it and I will post what I find.
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Hard re-set went fine. Hung just a little on installing htc.tsk. Connection wizard ran after auto reset and started up again without any unusual events. I sat and stared at the screen until it went blank waiting for the error, but of course, no problem.
Fooled around with menus and apps, called voicemail. Nothing. Looks like whatever was causing the crash has stopped.
Here is my first attempt at a WM6.5 ROM.
It is pretty much like my 6.1 ROMs found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502421 but built on 6.5.
I suggest to use the same HotFixes.
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Thanks to Da_G for the 21500 build!
TF3D2 1D is included. Needs to be turned on from settings.
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Lets see how this goes
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Will try this out tomorrow. Is the battery life the same as your old ones?
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Will try this out tomorrow. Is the battery life the same as your old ones?
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I am guessing it is not as good since 6.5 itself uses more resources.
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I am guessing it is not as good since 6.5 itself uses more resources.
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Really? I heard from a ton of people the 6.5 was better with battery life. hm. did you apply your tweaks to this one though?
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Really? I heard from a ton of people the 6.5 was better with battery life. hm. did you apply your tweaks to this one though?
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Yes...all same tweaks. I guess I assumed wrong. I haven't played with it long enough to see what the battery life is like. The battery life seemed normal for the amount of time I used it and what I was doing (surfing with wifi, bluetooth on and running through everything besides for the phone and GPS
I agree!!
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Really? I heard from a ton of people the 6.5 was better with battery life. hm. did you apply your tweaks to this one though?
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My personal experience with all but one 6.5 is that battery life is waaayyyy above 6.1 builds. I even cooked one myself with DA_G's kitchen and was getting > 2 days, with normal use, would probably have gotten > 3 days but it was too long between flashing, getting withdrawals. Honestly I don't know why the Elite chefs are staying with 6.1. 6.5 is much more responsive and definitely seems less buggy than the overtweaked 6.1's.
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My personal experience with all but one 6.5 is that battery life is waaayyyy above 6.1 builds. I even cooked one myself with DA_G's kitchen and was getting > 2 days, with normal use, would probably have gotten > 3 days but it was too long between flashing, getting withdrawals. Honestly I don't know why the Elite chefs are staying with 6.1. 6.5 is much more responsive and definitely seems less buggy than the overtweaked 6.1's.
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Im using it right now. I remember a week ago I left it on all night by accident on EDGE, with wifi on, and bluetooth on, from around midnight to 9 AM, it only lost 30 % of battery. I was shocked.
Ill be on a long trip tomorrow to go check out some colleges, so Ill see how long the battery actually lasts me
Hehe ive flashed very build of 6.5 since 21159 so know it well , ill be glad to test & leave feed back tomorrow.
Edit: just first little tidbit, during first boot before customaztion it shows a 6.1 splash screen(while not sure) im fiarly sure this is coming from the bootup animation, check the package...
if it meant to be there...ok lol
Edit2: two differnt connection managers ran...interesting, menu is not organized
Otherwise still testing looking good
very surprised how fast and stable 6.5 has gotten : ) this rom is awesome for everyday usage, only things i noticed were few dead links in start menu which u probably are aware of. awesome that htc black theme is in this rom last 6.5 rom i used few weeks back it wasnt present so good rom no probs here.
Also noticed those dead links -- for the winmo pictures app as well as for file explorer.
interestingly, if you add the links to the tf3d programs list, they work there -- but that confuses me. when you add a program to the tf3d list, isn't it just getting the info from the .lnk inside windows/start menu?
BTW - How did you get the menu enhancement working on this build of 6.5? I wasn't able to on my own build off Da_G's kitchen. Did you scale back to an earlier gwes?
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Hehe ive flashed very build of 6.5 since 21159 so know it well , ill be glad to test & leave feed back tomorrow.
Edit: just first little tidbit, during first boot before customaztion it shows a 6.1 splash screen(while not sure) im fiarly sure this is coming from the bootup animation, check the package...
if it meant to be there...ok lol
Edit2: two differnt connection managers ran...interesting, menu is not organized
Otherwise still testing looking good
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I swore I saw the red/orange splash screen. Will look into it. I know about the start menu not being organized yet. Wanted to see how everything worked before I dug deeper into the organizing everything.
huudo said:
very surprised how fast and stable 6.5 has gotten : ) this rom is awesome for everyday usage, only things i noticed were few dead links in start menu which u probably are aware of. awesome that htc black theme is in this rom last 6.5 rom i used few weeks back it wasnt present so good rom no probs here.
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I found the dead links too. I am not sure why they are like that but will look into it.
I am making new folder icons for 6.5 since you can use a bit higher res and I believe more color options too.
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BTW - How did you get the menu enhancement working on this build of 6.5? I wasn't able to on my own build off Da_G's kitchen. Did you scale back to an earlier gwes?
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I replaced the OEM folder that came with Da_G's kitchen with my own OEM folder. Then I copied over the autorun.exe, checkautorun.exe and checkautorun.lnk from his OEMDrivers folder to mine to get the customization to work. I did not do anything else to the SYS folder or replace any other files. Everything just worked for me. If you want my packages let me know and I can post them.
Come to think about it. It might be because my RGU file in the OEMDrivers is edited for it to work and since I switched OEM folders that could be it.
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I swore I saw the red/orange splash screen. Will look into it. I know about the start menu not being organized yet. Wanted to see how everything worked before I dug deeper into the organizing everything.
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You did the see the red/orange splash screen it comes up right after the green windows 6.1 splash screen.
-McMex
On the packages -- sure, if you get a chance, although I think I'm holding off a making a new ROM until after a new version of 6.5 drops. But I'd love to poke around and see what I can learn.
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You did the see the red/orange splash screen it comes up right after the green windows 6.1 splash screen.
-McMex
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ding ding ding!
also to some1 asking about HTC Notifications...i got them working changing nothing?
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ding ding ding!
also to some1 asking about HTC Notifications...i got them working changing nothing?
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They worked for me as well changing nothing.
-McMex
Use it for a whole day, fast and stable so far.
I will post bugs if i find any.
With fear of being flamed badly, I'd rather ask first then brick my phone, lol.
I've flashed a wm phone before, an HTC Dash. I likes the fact that once I flashed it, I didn't need ANY other cab files to make it work. I'm looking for something like that, a ROM that all I need to do is run HardSPL and flash the ROM, and I'm good to go.
What I want
I use my phone as my mp3 player
I'm on Edge, would like a fairly quick browser for that
Has windows live messenger
Has facebook
Other then that I'll mainly be using it for texting and email.
I'm using it on Rogers, and I think from what I've read I'll have to install Lurch's cab no matter what. Which is fine, I'm sure I can handel that.
Pretty much looking for stability, little lag, and ease of flashing. Not too concerned about battery life, all I'll have on is bluetooth, no 3g or wifi, and it will be charged on a nightly basis.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
edit I have been looking at Mystic, Energy, and shep's roms. Just dont know which is right for me
coop3422 said:
With fear of being flamed badly, I'd rather ask first then brick my phone, lol.
I've flashed a wm phone before, an HTC Dash. I likes the fact that once I flashed it, I didn't need ANY other cab files to make it work. I'm looking for something like that, a ROM that all I need to do is run HardSPL and flash the ROM, and I'm good to go.
What I want
I use my phone as my mp3 player
I'm on Edge, would like a fairly quick browser for that
Has windows live messenger
Has facebook
Other then that I'll mainly be using it for texting and email.
I'm using it on Rogers, and I think from what I've read I'll have to install Lurch's cab no matter what. Which is fine, I'm sure I can handel that.
Pretty much looking for stability, little lag, and ease of flashing. Not too concerned about battery life, all I'll have on is bluetooth, no 3g or wifi, and it will be charged on a nightly basis.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
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I'm using Mystic Series RC1. It has an option in the Comm manager to turn off 3G. Check it out here. I don't think this thread will be alive for long.
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I'm using Mystic Series RC1. It has an option in the Comm manager to turn off 3G. Check it out here. I don't think this thread will be alive for long.
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ya thats the one ive been looking at. How has it been for you? And did you also install the radio he recomended? Did you have to install any other files?
I am using Sheps ROM and so far I have foud it to be the best.
I am in the same boat as you, where I need fast and stable versions of 6.5 and Shep's ROM is exactly that. As an added bonus the battery life is also amazing, much better than I have come across before.
So I recommend Shep's Latest ROM.
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ya thats the one ive been looking at. How has it been for you? And did you also install the radio he recomended? Did you have to install any other files?
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I do use the 1.12 radio. I found that it has the best signal quality for my location, and the best battery life. I have several programs that I always install, but that's just a preference of mine. If all you are looking for is the things that you mentioned, it should work out of the box for you. If you want to use a different radio, you just need to make sure that you update the rilphone.dll to the one that matches the radio that you flash. I believe that the cab for most or all of them is available in the radio thread.
NRG said He is Cooking up an Energy ROM 3.0 with windMo 6.5 I would give that a try when he gets it out, so far, his Energy ROMs have taken the forum by storm with a cult like following, and have been Amazingly Fast, and Stable. Im Sure his 3.0 edition will keep with the same stability and we got a hint from him that its already amazingly fast.!
I cant vouch for any 6.5 Rom because I haven't used any so far.
I can say that the latest Energy Rom is very good. It'll do what you mentioned perfectly. The new TF3D2 is very nice, the Facebook tab is not included for stability reason but you can always get it later.
I usually only install one cab to fix the text message TimeStamp issues thats I had with all roms I had on my TouchPro.
I am on Fido network, so only Edge because I don't have a Fuze.
I am using 1.12.25.29 radio and it works very well on rogers network. Heard the newest one wasn't working perfectly...
Anyway, if you decide to go with Mystic's ROM let me know how it works for you.
I am a big fan of Energy Rom, series 3.0 should start next week with WM6.5 so keep and eye on that too!
Good luck
Oh and if Opera isn't what you are looking for, give Skyfire a shot(get.skyfire.com from your cell phone)
It has some strength compare to Opera I use both...
I think I'm going to try mystic tonight. And I'll try out Energy when 3.0 hits.
Just 1 question to those who have already flashed their phones.
In mskip's tutorial, step 4 under using HardSPL has me a little confused. It says to follow the steps in the RUU. Well I serched that thread to see if someone else had a question about this. Someone did, and mskip said the RUU file is usually in the ROM file. So I downloaded the Mystic ROM, and I have a file RaphaelWrapper.exe (which mskip said was the same as the RUU file). I double clikced it but can't open the file on my computer. I don't want to start flashing my phone until all the steps make sense, so if any of you could help, I'd really appreciate it
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I'm using Mystic Series RC1. It has an option in the Comm manager to turn off 3G.
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You can turn off 3G in every ROM. If there's no appropriate option in Comm Manager, you have to choose Settings->Personal->Phone->Band and in 'Select your network type' select 'GSM' instead of 'Auto'.
coop3422 said:
I think I'm going to try mystic tonight. And I'll try out Energy when 3.0 hits.
Just 1 question to those who have already flashed their phones.
In mskip's tutorial, step 4 under using HardSPL has me a little confused. It says to follow the steps in the RUU. Well I serched that thread to see if someone else had a question about this. Someone did, and mskip said the RUU file is usually in the ROM file. So I downloaded the Mystic ROM, and I have a file RaphaelWrapper.exe (which mskip said was the same as the RUU file). I double clikced it but can't open the file on my computer. I don't want to start flashing my phone until all the steps make sense, so if any of you could help, I'd really appreciate it
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Do you have Hard SPL installed already? Are you running XP or Vista on your PC?
I'm running XP Pro. I have HardSPL downlaoded to my desktop, and unzipped. But have not gona any further then that.
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I'm running XP Pro. I have HardSPL downlaoded to my desktop, and unzipped. But have not gona any further then that.
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Make sure that you are connected through ActiveSync, and double click on "RaphaelHardSPL-Unsigned_190_1_3.exe", and follow the steps in the dialog boxes that come up (that's what RUU is referring to). The screen will go black on your phone, and in about a minute, your phone will reboot. This is the most crucial part of flashing.
oooo, ok. my phone isnt connected, here i was looking for an RUU file. I do have RaphaelHardSPL-Unsigned_190_1_3.exe.
So I just sync my phone with activesync, and just double click on the files? Do I have to put them into the phones memory first?
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oooo, ok. my phone isnt connected, here i was looking for an RUU file. I do have RaphaelHardSPL-Unsigned_190_1_3.exe.
So I just sync my phone with activesync, and just double click on the files? Do I have to put them into the phones memory first?
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Just Double click on the "RaphaelHardSPL-Unsigned_190_1_3.exe" file on your PC. It will not run from the device.
and step 4, the RUU thing will be self explanitory once I run RaphaelHardSPL-Unsigned_190_1_3.exe ?
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and step 4, the RUU thing will be self explanitory once I run RaphaelHardSPL-Unsigned_190_1_3.exe ?
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Make sure that you have your phone connected to your computer, and connected through ActiveSync. When you double click on the exe file you will get a dialog box that looks like the attached image. Notice that it says "ROM Update Utility" at the top. Just check the box in the middle of each dialog box that comes up, and click "Next".
Let's move this discussion to PM's so that we do not get this thread locked.
I must say shep's ROM is rock solid. It has great battery life and is relatively (for windows 6.5 that is) bug free. It works well and there is no crippling bugs.
I value stability over niftyness but windows 6.5 is just too much niftyess to pass up.
I got Mystic 6.5 up and running. I'll check out energy 3.0 when that comes out. Getting a successful flash was the first step, lol. Now its just fun from here on out. I love winmo
Da_G's clean ROM is the best way to go if you want a very clean slick ROM without the bloat of crappy TF3D.
IMO Manila adds too much bloat and the new WM6.5 interface is just dead sexy. Here's hoping all of the veteran chefs at least include a lite version for people who don't want or need the extra stuff and like a faster ROM.
Ok, I've tried out quite a few roms to find that 'dream' rom and been flashing like mad, but one thing I've noticed is that there seems to be something majorly buggy with each one I've tried.
I've gone back to the Cap's Special with Sense 2.1 and WM 6.5 and have finally decided on the 'look' I want, but the virtual keyboard doesn't work properly in phone keypad or compact qwerty, which I really need when typing short, one handed messages on my touch pro. Also in my people tab, the call mobile button doesn't work to instantly call someone, I have to go into more information and call from the WM contact card. Yes it's kind of minor, but really annoying! And I can't find any cabs, fixes or anything that will solve my problem/s..
So I'm just wondering if anyone knows of a STABLE, more or less BUG-FREE and as close to stock-like rom that perhaps meets the following requirements, because I'm about ready to give up the search.. :\
- WM 6.5 (not 6.5.x) with the stock all black top and bottom and all white softkey buttons and icons.
- HTC Sense 2.1
- Start menu with original icons, nothing too fancy and messed with
- ALL virtual keyboards working properly, in both normal AND landscape mode
- Call mobile button in People tab that WORKS
Basically, I just want a stock rom with WM 6.5 and Sense 2.1 that doesn't have any major problems and can be used in landscape mode. How hard is that???
I'm kinda new to the TP ROM scene, so please forgive my ignorance and impatience. But I just want a WORKING rom, that's all. There doesn't seem to be as many out there as I thought there'd be, and so far have been very disappointed with what I've tried. Any advice or fingers pointed in the right direction would be most appreciated. Thanks!
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Ok, I've tried out quite a few roms to find that 'dream' rom and been flashing like mad, but one thing I've noticed is that there seems to be something majorly buggy with each one I've tried.
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Well sorry to disappoint you but this is windows we are talking about and these forums are created for one reason, to try and make the mobile software better, wich obvious isn't working out that good.
Will never buy a phone with windows mobile os again.
Hopefully Linux or Android will work good with this phone some day.
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So I'm just wondering if anyone knows of a STABLE, more or less BUG-FREE and as close to stock-like rom that perhaps meets the following requirements, because I'm about ready to give up the search.. :\
- WM 6.5 (not 6.5.x) with the stock all black top and bottom and all white softkey buttons and icons.
- HTC Sense 2.1
- Start menu with original icons, nothing too fancy and messed with
- ALL virtual keyboards working properly, in both normal AND landscape mode
- Call mobile button in People tab that WORKS
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Lookie here mate
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561158
Now download the "v4.21898 LD : [DOWNLOAD] - Leo Dialer"
and you will pretty much have what you need.
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Well sorry to disappoint you but this is windows we are talking about and these forums are created for one reason, to try and make the mobile software better, wich obvious isn't working out that good.
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these forums have made the mobile software much much better. i have only thanks and appreciation for the hard working chefs here. please take the negativity elsewhere.
k.electron said:
Lookie here mate
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561158
Now download the "v4.21898 LD : [DOWNLOAD] - Leo Dialer"
and you will pretty much have what you need.
these forums have made the mobile software much much better. i have only thanks and appreciation for the hard working chefs here. please take the negativity elsewhere.
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I have attempted to use the Tael ROMS in the past myself, I can attest to their brokenness. I tried the new ones last night. While they are the 2nd or 3rd best "Sense" ROMS I have tried, they suck on the Fuze. In short, the Fuze was not meant to run 6.5, or Sense, or...much anything other than 6.1 and the phone application. Running much else, takes too much CPU power.
So far, the "perfect" ROM I have found for the Fuze is a base, OEM-like 6.5.x, and loading on my own customizations. Trying to run Sense/Manila is pointless on these devices. Unless you just like to look at the pictures and soft reset after every application you use.
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Here's the ROM I use: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580429
It's 6.5.X, no Sense/Manila, very stable, fast, and my only complaints (with older versions) was to get GPS working with Google Maps, and Sync (which is a WinMo/Vista/7 compatibility issue and unrelated to the ROM). I am partial to speed, functionality, and reliability. This ROM does that. I then install the apps I want on top of it. haven't tried out the Kitchen version yet to build my own.
Stephen
if you want stability, use NRG rom 21898 version with cookie home tab, literally NO bugs (after you instal a cab for the volume ctrl cause the one cooked in is messed up). I highly recommend you make the switch to 2.5 sense, I thought that is was less stable, but I was very wrong. The sense 2.5 builds are more stable then the 2.1 ones, also, with cookie hometab you get INSANE customization of your homescreen as well as fluid graphics. Overall, i cannot find a single bug in the latest nrg roms. Hope this helped
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I have attempted to use the Tael ROMS in the past myself, I can attest to their brokenness. I tried the new ones last night. While they are the 2nd or 3rd best "Sense" ROMS I have tried, they suck on the Fuze. In short, the Fuze was not meant to run 6.5, or Sense, or...much anything other than 6.1 and the phone application. Running much else, takes too much CPU power.
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I actually then the 6.5.5 roms with sense 2.5 and my phone works flawlessly. never crashes, and its quite zippy. sure the battery life isnt more than 2 days but i have 5 email boxes syncing on 3g all day.
energy roms are good, but i dont like the fact that they keep changing the basics between every rom, sometimes its opera 9.7, sometimes 10, sometimes beejive, sometimes palringo. tael has a much slimmer base and just the apps that work well. and u get to have the swype keyboard.
i vote him hands down. and u can get the 21898 version which has the start on top.
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Well sorry to disappoint you but this is windows we are talking about and these forums are created for one reason, to try and make the mobile software better, wich obvious isn't working out that good.
Will never buy a phone with windows mobile os again.
Hopefully Linux or Android will work good with this phone some day.
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Works fine for me. I vote user error in your case. I probably won't buy a phone with win mobile again either, but that has more to do with the movement of application support towards android and iphoneOS, than to do with win mo.
Thanks for the advice guys. Much appreciated!
Yeah I'm sticking with Cap's Special still I think.. wish I had the skill, time and the patience to cook my own ROM, but I think it'd end up just as buggy if not more so than others I've tried. Eh..
I probably won't buy another WinMo phone again either, unless WM7 lives up to my expectations, which knowing M$, most likely won't.. I am NOT however going to join the iPhone cult, I simply refuse!
But my old Nokia 3600 slide is looking more and more appealing again.. lol.
Keep up the good work though!
Swype
I can at the very least solve your one handed typing issues....get Swype! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604949 It is awesome, as previously mentioned. And I am a fan of Energy ROMs myself, but if you want everything perfect, you might wanna try a little home cooking...
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Thanks for the advice guys. Much appreciated!
Yeah I'm sticking with Cap's Special still I think.. wish I had the skill, time and the patience to cook my own ROM, but I think it'd end up just as buggy if not more so than others I've tried. Eh..
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Good choice sticking with Cap's Special ROM.
His 21898 Build is by-far the fastest & most stable ROM I've used... And I've been through the GenY, Energy, and TAEL ROMS... none of them compare.
JoeUsername said:
I have attempted to use the Tael ROMS in the past myself, I can attest to their brokenness. I tried the new ones last night. While they are the 2nd or 3rd best "Sense" ROMS I have tried, they suck on the Fuze. In short, the Fuze was not meant to run 6.5, or Sense, or...much anything other than 6.1 and the phone application. Running much else, takes too much CPU power.
So far, the "perfect" ROM I have found for the Fuze is a base, OEM-like 6.5.x, and loading on my own customizations. Trying to run Sense/Manila is pointless on these devices. Unless you just like to look at the pictures and soft reset after every application you use.
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Here's the ROM I use: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580429
It's 6.5.X, no Sense/Manila, very stable, fast, and my only complaints (with older versions) was to get GPS working with Google Maps, and Sync (which is a WinMo/Vista/7 compatibility issue and unrelated to the ROM). I am partial to speed, functionality, and reliability. This ROM does that. I then install the apps I want on top of it. haven't tried out the Kitchen version yet to build my own.
Stephen
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As previously said here try an Energy Rom with 2.5 an Cookie. And speak latter.
I'm have been using Energy Roms months and never has do a soft reset due a hang or memory problem.
btw last version (2nd May) is completly perfect. No one isue.