i made a thread earlier, and got some replies, but it didnt really clear that much up in my head.
I would be greatgul if you could help me out with this one please.
I have been reading alot of threads about changing the ROM from an Orange one (my phone is so slow with it!) to a new 'lite' one. but i just dont understand how!
could someone clirfy what these terms mean please: (in simple terms)
what is a Hard-SPL?
What is a ROM Kitchen?
What is a ROM DUMP?
What is USPL?
What is ROM (i'm assuming it is where the OS is stored and it means read-only memory?)
what is a CID unlocker and why do i need it?
Thanks.
You guys are all pros and dont understand a word of whats written most of the time lol
I found the ROM I wanted yesterday(cant find it now will have to look harder) its a lite one with only the basics there.
Is it hard for a novice to do somthing like this?
Thanks wez
Read Read and Read Again
Sounds like you been doin some reading...donno if you checked out the Wikipage...If not, here it it.
If you have...read again lol.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Niki
You wont get too far on this forum without reading man. Sorry.
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Can someone please tell me what program do i need to upgrade my ppc and where to get roms for it???
Well since we dont know whar your PCC is its going to be just a tad hard to tell you what program to use and which rom to use.
Wiki is your best bet as well as spending some time reading a few of the posts.
Have fun
Its a himalaya but it has wm5 on it and i tryed to get the device data on it and it shows no operator id or anything like that. When i try to update (downgrade) like the tutorials say i can't find that info .
Well I moved your thread to this section (I cant help you out.)
tried the flash without id ?it's on the ftp server
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tried the flash without id ?it's on the ftp server
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What is the file name because i looked and didn't see anything without id .
later edit: Found it and updated it but i am not satisfied of it.. i'll try some official versions when i'll found one. But next time try to explain better because as the title said i am a noob in wm
key word is that you were! a n00b but you leaned to do it
and therefor a n00b no longer
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key word is that you were! a n00b but you leaned to do it
and therefor a n00b no longer
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:word: I got back to wm5 96rom 32 ram . But i would like for qtek to make an official wm05 rom because all of these have bugs... and you have to install many things after
does it take off everything that is on the rommy thingy?...or what...and f i want to just install it do i have to cid unlock?...( i got aa g3 now) or do i shelltool it...
lets say im going to download farias real thing...to get everything do i install it regular...or shelltool it?
From your questions, you really shouldn't be doing anything with your phone before reading the wiki on this and taking some time to read the forums a bit closer.
i didnt ask that...if u cant answer my question just say so,,,thanks for trying
TaurusBullba wasnt being mean. TaurusBullba was pointing out a few honest truths.
Hypothetically speaking, if someone doesnt know what shelltool does, despite their being a thread with almost 300 posts on using the shelltool then they are obviously not ready to flash anything yet. Furthermore if someone doesnt know which devices the shelltool is designed for then they have again demonstrated that they are not ready to flash their expensive device.
Do as TaurusBullba said and be thankful someone took the time to answer your question in a civil manner.
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does it take off everything that is on the rommy thingy?...or what...and f i want to just install it do i have to cid unlock?...( i got aa g3 now) or do i shelltool it...
lets say im going to download farias real thing...to get everything do i install it regular...or shelltool it?
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Just CID unlock your G3, you dont need shell tools for that.
i dont want to cid unlock it..and i cant...hence the reason im using shell tools...i have read the thread before but was looking for clarification...sorry for asking...and the fact that there are 300 posts makes it even easier for some1 not 2 read all the posts...to get all the information...i ditnt think anyone would read all the post to make sure there perfect with it..hence the reason all people can make threads...to post finds...and questions...and again i say...i cant cid unlock my device...does it take off everything that is on the rom?...or what...and if i want to just install the rom the regular way do i have to cid unlock?...( i have a g3 now) or do i shelltool it...lets say im going to use farias real thing...to get everything on the rom do i install it regularly...or shelltool it?
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CID unlock your phone and install the normal way. There isnt much point using shelltools with a G3 when you can just unlock it.
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and the fact that there are 300 posts makes it even easier for some1 not 2 read all the posts...to get all the information...i ditnt think anyone would read all the post to make sure there perfect with it..hence the reason all people can make threads...to post finds...and questions__________________
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The reason some threads are 300+ posts long is because so many topics are covered, so many questions are answered. By reading all the posts in the thread you might find your question is already answered, conversely by not reading all the pages you might miss something very important. For example imagine if someone didnt read the shelltool thread and missed the discussion about the virus version of shelltool, what kind of trouble would they be in then?
so i take it we should read every single page...no thanks
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so i take it we should read every single page...no thanks
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Just the kind of attitude that leads to you not knowing what shelltools does.
i think asking him to read 300 plus pages of anything is asking too much. And he is right that we all can post threads for a reason. But still most of the info he is seeking can easily be answered by reading the first page of the original shelltools thread.
personally i hate when people say "just unlock it" because people like me who can't void the warranty can't unlock it (i have a g3, but used shelltools to try and keep the warranty) This guy has read enough to know that it doesnt cid unlock your device.
to answer his original question, im pretty sure it just flashes the os and ipl and spl or anything (thats what happened with mine) Ive used nottosmarts and xplore with no problems with it. I say just try it and see if you get the full effect.
I see the users frustration with questions such as this, but this is a forum thats known for the way it is always willing to help a new user out. All we ask is the new user just does some research and not be baby fed.
And killacam even if there is a hint of attitude, they just dont want you to brick your phone, so take take it too much to heart
The issue here is that 99% of the people asking about shelltools are people that shouldn't be flashing their phone. You may be one of the exceptions but the lack of information in your posting about what you do know makes it hard to judge.
The fact is that even shell tool (and any unauthorized tool for that matter), can "brick" your phone and most of the time (read a few threads) people blame the people posting these tools. If you are worried about warranty then you should just be happy with your phone's built in OS.
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The issue here is that 99% of the people asking about shelltools are people that shouldn't be flashing their phone. You may be one of the exceptions but the lack of information in your posting about what you do know makes it hard to judge.
The fact is that even shell tool (and any unauthorized tool for that matter), can "brick" your phone and most of the time (read a few threads) people blame the people posting these tools. If you are worried about warranty then you should just be happy with your phone's built in OS.
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are you talking to me? Why should i be happy with the packaged OS? Why can't i use a workaround that was developed from someone in these forums? In fact, i dont see a reason why anyone wouldn't use shelltools because of the fact that it saves the warranty.
Oh and a lot of programs can brick your phones, even the basic rom update if it's used in the wrong manner. And i don't like the way you went about this post; next time you need help maybe you shouldn't ask it, because that's apparently what you would like everyone else to do. I agree that he shouldnt have looked more at the shelltools thread, but to make a statement about me doesn't make sense.
It's never asking too much of a person to do things if he really wants to do it. Anyway, he doesn't have to read through the whole 300 pages as not every page has the information he needs, just browse through it mate and look for your magic keyword "G3"...
It was worth the 300 pages though, believe me, if I didn't I woundn't be using Core2.0 right now..
i dont think there is a warranty issue here since he wants to upgrade his OS and that would void his warranty (or not?)
the only way to learn is READING and if he doesnt want to read and expect someone else to do it for him thats a bit lazy on your part but here is my advice.....
1)if you can CID unlock your device (if you dont care about your waranty do it) this way you wont have any issues when upgrading to a different ROM
here is a link for some good info about cid unlocking http://www.htcwizardweb.net/node/170
or here you will find lokiwiz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249474
2)if your question is what exacly Shell too does (what it does to the .nbk file) thats a question that you shouldnt be asking since you havent been able to flash a rom and that a question for a more experienced user.
3)read the first page of the Shell too thread that should answer all your questions if not be more specific about what you have done and what you can and cannot do this way we can help you directing you to the treads that might help you
4)and if none of this have help you you can PM me. i have flash several G3 and G4 devices and havent bricked any one of them.
As you can see i dont post as much im more of a Reader (the only way to learn) i usually dont post to ask but to help...thats why this forum is wonderful ...hope i helped in some way if not search....read this forum and google are your best friends
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i dont think there is a warranty issue here since he wants to upgrade his OS and that would void his warranty (or not?)
the only way to learn is READING and if he doesnt want to read and expect someone else to do it for him thats a bit lazy on your part but here is my advice.....
1)if you can CID unlock your device (if you dont care about your waranty do it) this way you wont have any issues when upgrading to a different ROM
here is a link for some good info about cid unlocking http://www.htcwizardweb.net/node/170
or here you will find lokiwiz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249474
2)if your question is what exacly Shell too does (what it does to the .nbk file) thats a question that you shouldnt be asking since you havent been able to flash a rom and that a question for a more experienced user.
3)read the first page of the Shell too thread that should answer all your questions if not be more specific about what you have done and what you can and cannot do this way we can help you directing you to the treads that might help you
4)and if none of this have help you you can PM me. i have flash several G3 and G4 devices and havent bricked any one of them.
As you can see i dont post as much im more of a Reader (the only way to learn) i usually dont post to ask but to help...thats why this forum is wonderful ...hope i helped in some way if not search....read this forum and google are your best friends
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no, upgrading the OS through shelltools will not void the warranty. (that is if you change it back before you send it in for repair )
i agree with pretty much everything you said, and that's one thing people need to learn, is that if you read a little bit, things will just absorb and you will then gain some knowledge. these are expensive little machines to be messing around on lol.
The Real Thing won't work on it
You can try, but Faria's Real Thing won't work on a G3 CID-locked device using ShellTool. I tried already. What I did was just CID-Unlocked my G3 a few days ago. If you need to send it in for repairs, you can always lock it back up using the CID-unlocking software called Lokiwiz. Then you can just use the RUU to flash the image
I have a hurricane and i would like to upgrade it to WM6.1..
But now i want a guide! Because the last time i just did it, i bricked it.. The SPL flash went wrong and now the hurricane is dead.. completely dead.. But unfortunally i have another one i wish to try it on but i need an exact guide..
And then i suspect my other hurricane to be some kind of prototype.. I flashed the "patched_ruu" and it went fine but after that i just got a white screen and now the device dosn't work.. I have tried to get help but as it seems it is not repairable.. So i would like to know if the device i have is a "genuine" hurricane? How can i check that?
The other hurricane i had was not branded.. Nothing was stated on the cover.. The one i want to flash now is branded "Qtek 8200" and the splash screen says "Test Only - Not for sale"
Can somebody help me here ? Iam afraid to brick this device too !
Guys damned i need some help here !
There are more than enough upgrade guides. Just look into the longer WM5 or WM6 threads and make sure that the ROM you downloaded really is intended for your device. Don't just assume and better check twice. HTC devices have confusingly many codenames and are sold under dozens of different brand names. Even some people writing guides confuse one or the other model.
Sorry, I know this is the answer you just didn't want. But reading the threads provides just the kind of information you need if you don't want to brick the second phone.
Regards,
Dirk
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There are more than enough upgrade guides. Just look into the longer WM5 or WM6 threads and make sure that the ROM you downloaded really is intended for your device. Don't just assume and better check twice. HTC devices have confusingly many codenames and are sold under dozens of different brand names. Even some people writing guides confuse one or the other model.
Sorry, I know this is the answer you just didn't want. But reading the threads provides just the kind of information you need if you don't want to brick the second phone.
Regards,
Dirk
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I assumed it was a rom intended for my device, cause the rom i downloaded was in the WM6 from this forum.. The guide in the thread i found isn't very desciptive.. Others have downloaded and got it to work on their device but somehow i did something wrong OR it could be because my device was a sample.
No one with a little spare time ?
Hello,
I have my Hero for a month and know that Android 2.0 is coming...
I would like to be advised if it is good to update my Phone which is version :
2.6.27-a5504199
build : 1.76.66.5 146733
Soft : 1.0.0.A6288
Is this one recent version, is this usefull to update to anewer version... What I tried but not working troughout HTC.com
I know I need to root my phone, but what will it bring to my phone as rextra features or speed...
So, please give me your feedback and if it were your phone what will you do... ?
thanks for your reply
if it were my phone i'd install modacos custom rom 2.9
thanks, but what does offer it more ?
it gives you everything that it says it will in the first post of the thread over at modacos forums. or here at the forums. i believe in you, you can read all that.
yes I can read, and I've already read the topic at modaco... but nothing clear for me, and is it quicker than my original ? exept the radio update cwich give me better signal, what can I expect ???
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yes I can read, and I've already read the topic at modaco... but nothing clear for me, and is it quicker than my original ? exept the radio update cwich give me better signal, what can I expect ???
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it is way faster. and has some tools. and is rooted.
To add to what all above members have contributed , I can say that
Modaco is a master chef and adds all tasty ingridients and spices to our taste.
sorry can we just take a step back a moment? (sorry to sort of hijack this thread with another question, though related)
can someone explain what rooted means in terms of these phones?
im also new to using smart phones, great phone, though when something goes wrong its bit more tricky to sort out.
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sorry can we just take a step back a moment? (sorry to sort of hijack this thread with another question, though related)
can someone explain what rooted means in terms of these phones?
im also new to using smart phones, great phone, though when something goes wrong its bit more tricky to sort out.
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you can execute commands as user "root". means you can do everything, including access every part of the filesystem, delete/replace/alter every file. wifi or bluetooth tethering needs it for example. also droidwall, which can control web access for apps.
ok i understand that. so does that mean i could delete things like the stocks n shares app along with peep and other things i dont need or want?
Would this enable me to change the colour of the menu bar at the bottom or even the whole theme itself? if so could someone direct me on what to do?dont want to mess anything up.
but also as buzjay asks is the new update neccesary?
sorry these questions must sound so simple lol just want to make sure before i go delving into the bowls of the phone.
thanks
- yes
- yes. ask someone in the themes section who already did it or find out by looking at their themes.
- it is not "necessary". your phone does make calls without it, doesn't it?
Hello XDA,
I am currently debating on buying the SH-12C for my gf. One of the major things holding me back from buying it would be lack of custom roms, root-ability, and support.
Does anyone know of any forums or websites that provide these services?
I searched XDA and Googled "SH-12C custom roms" but I had no luck.
Thanks,
lilhugo
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Hello XDA,
I am currently debating on buying the SH-12C for my gf. One of the major things holding me back from buying it would be lack of custom roms, root-ability, and support.
Does anyone know of any forums or websites that provide these services?
I searched XDA and Googled "SH-12C custom roms" but I had no luck.
Thanks,
lilhugo
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as you maybe know there was an update for the sh-12c and we already have that firmware-files in this forum !
the only bad thing is , its coded in .enc format and i posted a way how it could probably work to unpack/decode the files >>here<<.
so if this contains a whole firmware ,maybe we would be able to make lots of modifications,custom roms and the most important thing ...ROOT!!!
but it seems there are not much people here who want to do the first step or something for their "root"
iam tryin things on and on , every day ,,,my skills are also limited ..hmm
some ppl from asian forums will solve that first i think ...
dbaf14
Oh wow, you're awesome! I swear I've seen you around on the forums somewhere before while I was lurking.
Anyways thanks for the info. I'll subscribe to that thread and I'll see if I can learn new things to contribute.
Thanks again,
lilhugo
dbaf14 said:
as you maybe know there was an update for the sh-12c and we already have that firmware-files in this forum !
the only bad thing is , its coded in .enc format and i posted a way how it could probably work to unpack/decode the files >>here<<.
so if this contains a whole firmware ,maybe we would be able to make lots of modifications,custom roms and the most important thing ...ROOT!!!
but it seems there are not much people here who want to do the first step or something for their "root"
iam tryin things on and on , every day ,,,my skills are also limited ..hmm
some ppl from asian forums will solve that first i think ...
dbaf14
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hi your message seems you know much about sh-12c could you please help me my phone stuck in boot , i have backup on sd card and back up is there any way of hard reset or adb recovery ? i tried some some commant like wipe all but it was error permission denied , could you help- me to restore my phone ?