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I recently bought a TyTNfor almost $900 including a 2 GB expansion card. Despite dozens of hours of trying to get it to work correctly, I find th TyTN almost intolerably buggy.
Specifically:
1) the phone loses connections frequently -- much worse than the Cingular 8125 or my old Treo 650.
2) numerous application programs either crash the device or do not run properly -- specifically, the Audible.com player, the the automated download feature or of Audible Air, most of the SPB utility applications, SBSH Weather (VGA Icons), SBSH Ilauncher and others.
3) the battery life absolutely sucks. I get less than eight hours of operation -- with very few telephone calls. I do have Microsoft push e-mail turned on. However, this ought to work -- for God's sake, or what's the point?
4) the screen/stylus requires re-alignment at least twice a daily..
Is there anyone out there who can help me and walk me through the installation of a new ROM, or some kind of update that makes this device work in a tolerable manner?
I would be very happy to pay you for your consulting time. Otherwise, I want to try to get HTC to take this buggy phone back for a full refund and I will go back to using my old Treo 650.
Many thanks for your attention and future help.
ROM version 1.18.255.3
ROM date 07/22/06
Radio Version 1.03.03.10
Once I hear that you have alignment problems, then, from what I hear you have bad luck since you have one of the firt TyTns out there. I heard that HTC replaces these units. It hapens to be a common problem on the early devices.
I have my MDA Vario II (a variation of a Hermes) and till now 4 days long extremely happy with everything.
natgoldhaber said:
I recently bought a TyTNfor almost $900 including a 2 GB expansion card. Despite dozens of hours of trying to get it to work correctly, I find th TyTN almost intolerably buggy.
Specifically:
1) the phone loses connections frequently -- much worse than the Cingular 8125 or my old Treo 650.
2) numerous application programs either crash the device or do not run properly -- specifically, the Audible.com player, the the automated download feature or of Audible Air, most of the SPB utility applications, SBSH Weather (VGA Icons), SBSH Ilauncher and others.
3) the battery life absolutely sucks. I get less than eight hours of operation -- with very few telephone calls. I do have Microsoft push e-mail turned on. However, this ought to work -- for God's sake, or what's the point?
4) the screen/stylus requires re-alignment at least twice a daily..
Is there anyone out there who can help me and walk me through the installation of a new ROM, or some kind of update that makes this device work in a tolerable manner?
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Well, I am sorry you are having these problems. I don't think most of them are a Tytn problems in general.
1) First I have heard of this. I have had the Tytn for a month now and don't have that problem. I move in and out of a 3g area and whether on GSM or UMTS, call quality has been great (better than my Wizzard in fact). Maybe your problem is a SIM issue since this phone is not supported by your carrier where you others might be? I went and got a new SIM when I got mine so I don't know if that could be an issue or not.
2) I don't use many apps. I do use SBSH Weather v1.3.3 (regular icons) and it works well. No issues at all, updates just fine etc. I thought the VGA icons were for devices with a VGA screen (Universal for example). To the best of my knowledge the Wizzard, Tytn etc are not VGA devices so I don't think it helps to use the VGA icons, and who knows, maybe it could cause an issue on a non-VGA device. I have heard that SPB has issues. Slingplayer also works well for me, streaming video runs great.
3) I get ~3-4 days out of the battery if just used for calls, weather updates, and light browsing. Heavy UMTS browsing or streaming cuts that down significantly to 24-36 hours. I don't use push mail so don't know there, but there might be a config setting that is causing your device to get polled too frequently. I do know that one time I went into the phone menu and Band page to set Band to UMTS only. I forgot I did that, left a UMTS area and the phone went into constant network search mode instead of switching to GSM. That drained my battery in something less than 8 hrs.
4) I also don't have this problem. There are many reports of this problem though and the only fix I am aware of is a replacement.
Bottom line is I suspect you have a bad phone (reception and alignment issues) as well as setup issues or program conflicts causing your apps problems.
try to upgrade to the lastest rom!
natgoldhaber said:
I would be very happy to pay you for your consulting time. Otherwise, I want to try to get HTC to take this buggy phone back for a full refund and I will go back to using my old Treo 650.
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I would love to take your money, but I think you should take it back and get something else. Maybe even a Treo. The reason I say this is because the TyTn is just not ready for Prime Time unless you are a power user or someone who doesn't feel the need to complain because it doesn't work properly. Power user go around these issues and figure out the problems.
This is no way an insult to you, it's just that if you can't deal with the problems, and you need to rely on a phone/pda, and email is very important to you maybe even go as low as to get a blackberry. In the meantime I personally would keep the TyTn and explore it and fully understand how it works. When you are ready to dive in and start using it as a "power user" then you will no longer need to worry about it's faults.
This is coming from 2 years of experience with the O2 Xda IIs. Which was the buggiest pocketpc phone that ever came out and today is one of the top, mainly due to the fact that once the ROM is hacked the development efforts go up considerably and you see increased productivity and usability.
But if you need the money, just get a refund.
Sorry about my blunt response, but I had a friend who I converted from a palm to a Blue Angel. He didn't like it so I got him into a wizard. He curse at it for a while, then he started loving it after a few weeks of using it. Now he would never go back to a Palm or a Treo or anything else. I got my TyTn only last week and have cursed it to hell and back several thousand times. But this is just the way it goes when you're one of the early adopters. Especially when the phone is not commercially available to the US and Canada.
Time heals all.
Fully agree with you axiom, the most sincere response you could have given him.
I also come from the BlueAngel and was one of the early adopters, now running helmi's 1.32 rom, that's why I truely understand what you mean
Thanks pof for backing me up. I am also still using my BlueAngel with with the 1.32 rom but primarily in my car for navigation. This way I don't have to spend another few hundred dollars on a Nav system. And it really bothers me when tomtom loads faster on my BlueAngel then it does on my TyTn, but then I am hopeful that the TyTn will prevail when the time is write and all our heads are in the right place.
As always, everyone is welcome to post their problems, concerns, and findings and I am always pushing people to hang in there because "I know" there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Thanks for all the thoughtful replys - but....
Perhaps this is a device that is a little too early for me. But I will not return it. I love the speed of the Cingular 3G network. And I am blown away by how well Exchange/Outlook push works. I would never go back to a Treo or to a Blackberry.
I was rather hoping someone may have an idea about an improved ROM. I did have a direct conversation with HTCEurope's tech support office. They said they were well aware of the problems with applications, especially with the Audible player. They wistfully referred to the folks in Taiwan creating a new ROM - any month now.
I hoped that one of you might feel that a beta Cingular or other ROM might fix some or all of my problems. And I hope that someone could talk me through the installation. I hope that is true.
Many thanks.
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I hoped that one of you might feel that a beta Cingular or other ROM might fix some or all of my problems. And I hope that someone could talk me through the installation. I hope that is true.
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Oh please don't install the cingular beta ROM. Infact, as much I enjoyed using it for testing purposes, the last thing you want to do is start pushing ROMs. I am also waiting for a newer ROM, I was one of the first along with pof and others who installed the cingular roms and found some harsh truths, and some benefits. However, I went back to the dopod rom, with a radio update from the cingular rom. And this was a journey in possibly bricking my unit because going back from the cingular to one of the other roms is a chance and you need your original rom to go back.
If you must pursue upgrading your ROM, please keep a few things in mind:
1) And very important: If you don't know what you're doing, you could brick your unit.
2) A rom upgrade is only as good as the comments it has received from the users on this forum.
3) Most users who use the newest roms are, in most cases, advanced and understand that there will be problems.
4) Once you have started to upgrade your rom, you will be doing it all the time and be ready to reinstall your apps and settings.
If this is all ok to you and you have a back up phone, that you can use while you play with your TyTn, then go ahead and try the Dopod, Imate or TyTn rom. Look through the wiki and you will find all the information you need.
READ EVERYTHING FIRST, THEN START YOUR JOURNEY. The worst thing is having someone tell you "Do a search", or "RTFM", or "Read the wiki". People will respect you more and will be willing to help you more if your questions legit and the wiki can't help you out.
To start you off, I would suggest the Dopod ROM, with radio 1.16. This should take you about 1 hour to update. Then if you're not satisfied with this, then go to the TyTn or the IMate.
I hope this helps, and I have never seen anyone ask for money on here to help our fellow users and if they have, then shame on them. We are all here to learn and teach, this is what makes us a community of excellence.
I hope this helps you and many others on this board. Until the next rom, or hopefully the successful hack of the TyTn rom... Long live xda-developers!
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axiom: I took part of your last comment and updated the upgrading FAQs with it
As far as the screen alignment issue goes i am shortly sending my TyTN to HTC (in the UK) to get fixed under warranty (ie free)....the guy on the helpline was REALLY helpfull in sorting it out...they estimate a 5 day turnaround for it which is just SWEEEEET......shall be back to my P900 for a few days URGH!
So afaik the screen alignment can be sorted with an under warranty repair
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axiom: I took part of your last comment and updated the upgrading FAQs with it
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Thanks pof, I am very honored to me contributing to the wiki. Hehe.
There is one spelling mistake, can you change:
help you more if your questions legit and the wiki can't help you out.
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help you more if your questions are legit and the wiki can't help you out.
Thanks.
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There is one spelling mistake, can you change:
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I changed it, but remember that you can edit the wiki too... it's very easy, and if you need help, just ask
Dear Prof, Asukal and especially Axiom:
I want to thank you for your responses. I took the plunge last night and upgraded the phone radio ROM to the Cingular 1.16 version using the instructions and files from Asukal.
There were moments of sheer terror. The ROM upload to the phone took hours. In fact, I went to sleep and let it continue through the night. But when I woke up, there was the predicted error message on the TyTN. Just as instructed, after a reset, everything worked perfectly. I will write this up more thoroughly in a day or two after I have a chance to really test the radio.
But thanks for giving me the courage to try the upgrade. I am also including a snippet from a message I received from HTC Support about the next ROM:
"There are no ROM updates available for the TyTN at present, although are actively working one to address various issue customers are experiencing.
We are expecting this to coincide with the Windows Mobile 5 AKU3 update."
Nat
please help/ new to this
I have a 02 xda exec that has several programs that states that " either it is not signed in with a trusted cetificate, or one of it's commponent can not be found, you might have to reinstall or restore this file." My desktop had the backup files for the 02 exec but it crashed. im using my laptop to try to find out how to restore my files. I tried the update but that failed too. Please help.
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I have a 02 xda exec that has several programs that states that " either it is not signed in with a trusted cetificate, or one of it's commponent can not be found, you might have to reinstall or restore this file." My desktop had the backup files for the 02 exec but it crashed. im using my laptop to try to find out how to restore my files. I tried the update but that failed too. Please help.
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This is the TyTn forum. You want to post this in the Universal forum.
natgoldhaber said:
Dear Prof, Asukal and especially Axiom:
I want to thank you for your responses. I took the plunge last night and upgraded the phone radio ROM to the Cingular 1.16 version using the instructions and files from Asukal.
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Congratulations and you are very welcome. Btw, which base rom did you stay with? I have noticed better reception with the 1.16 radio, how are you finding it?
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Congratulations and you are very welcome. Btw, which base rom did you stay with? I have noticed better reception with the 1.16 radio, how are you finding it?
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ROM is version 1.18.255.3
Date:7/22/06
Radio: 1.16.00.00 (hurray)
Protocol: 32.53.7018H
ExROM: 1.18.255.106
I will give a full report on the radio tomorrow - not enough experience with it yet - and some very minor anomalies after the upgrade.
If you're experiencing shortened battery life, try changing the push email settings (active sync for the mail server) -- if you set it to other than "as they arrive" to an hour or so, for off-peak, it will really reduce the battery drain. Same with the settings for an POP3 email mailboxes -- change the polling interval to a longer duration. I've found that to be one of the biggest battery drains on my TyTN.
I've had a TyTN for more than 2 months and absolutely love it. Sold my k-jam (wizard) because I want the 3G if Cingular USA ever gets it working in my area. I've found the TyTN faster even on the EDGE network locally and better overall than my k-jam -- seems like the issues with the wizard have been largely addressed. Mind you I've never had the screen alignment problem so I can sympathize with those who do. I did switch my HTC ROM to the Imate ROM and I feel like the stability is better.
Slightly better
natgoldhaber said:
ROM is version 1.18.255.3
Date:7/22/06
Radio: 1.16.00.00 (hurray)
Protocol: 32.53.7018H
ExROM: 1.18.255.106
I will give a full report on the radio tomorrow - not enough experience with it yet - and some very minor anomalies after the upgrade.
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I think the Cingular 1.16 Radio ROM is just a bit better than the TyTN ROM that was native to my device. It seems very clear and it MAY hold the signal a bit better. My house is in a marginal area, switching constantly between GPRS and UMTS. That may make things difficult. My reception at home is clearer but about the same as my old Treo 650 in terms of maintaining a connection. The 8125 I had on trial from Cingular for a few weeks was better - but of course it had no UMTS.
Might be interesting for someone to do a hack which grabs GPRS during phone conversations in marginal areas and prevents going to UMTS during the call. ?????
I downloaded the fix4cat TyTN tweaker and set audio to "excellent." Not sure what that does, but excellent sounds good. I also enabled HSPDA, but that seems to do nothing.
Anyway I am happy.
The audible player still does not work worth beans (boohoo - their tech support is NO HELP AT ALL) and I had a really terrible experience with Chapura Pocket Mirror which I used successfully on the Treo for years. I need to synchronize public folders on my Exchange server. Any ideas? Chapura is brain dead, temporarily broke my device and made me spend hours recovering my programs and settings.
Finally - anyone ever able to get into a Cisco firewall and look at files on the company server with the VPN software in WM5??? I have tried using PPTP – no luck.
And really finally, thanks to everyone who helped. (Battery life better with push email off and TyTN magically stopped alignment drift completely and I am no longer a ROM virgin).
Nat
I've benn having issues with the Garmin Mobile XT... I have now the Sprint 3.56.651 ROM AND 3.42.30 RADIO...
when I run Garmin it automatically detects satellites without any other GPS aplication (GPSProxy, GPSGate o others...) but it only locks 3 satellites and it doesn't give me my position...
Is there something i'm doing wrong?? what do I need to get this thing working???
The big answer that you have not provided is if any other application returns the same GPS performance. Garmin, as others, only receives the data as provided by the GPSOne chipset, and I cannot see any reason why it could cripple that data.
Try again with a diagnostic app such as VisualGPSce. What you describe sounds like a rather common problem with the Titan in that it is seeing a few satellites but fails to lock-on to them and that is why you cannot determine your position. In a clearing outside, wait up to a half hour.. Try GC's QPST GPS hack.. Etc.. Garmin is unlikely to be the issue.
all right...
I already did the GPS Hack with QPST... I already waited for like 2 hours (I was washing my car) and it did lock up to 6 satellites but it still didn't give me my position...
I installed GPSProxy, GPSGate and many others but I have problems on that applications... first it doesn't show me any satellite, after 10-15 seconds it shows me like 10-15 satellites on the screen but only for a second or so and then they disappear again... this happens in a loop, it shows me the 10-15 satellites for a second, it waits for 10-15 seconds and then it shows them on the screen again for a second..........
I'm going to try VisualGPSce to see if I have any luck... i'll keep you posted...
I am running latest radio and dcd's rom with Garmin Mobile XT on VZW with the GPS Hack with QPST and get locks within 30 secs and 7 to 9 sats.
Not sure if that helps or not.
what radio are you runing?? i have 3.42.30
I don't understand what everyone is doing. I am running Garmin Mobile XT myself, and have been for a couple of months. With the Newest radio rom, and DCD 3.2, I have no problems locking sats. Normally when I start the program, by the time it's up and running, I have a lock on enough sats to get the bars all green. It's just that fast. Not sure what your doing wrong.
I run Garmin Mobile XT with absolutely no problems on VZW.
P.S. I still prime with HTC GPS Tool prior to opening Garmin.
ok still no luck...
are you selecting the GPS on Garmin as COM4:COM4: or as GPS Intermediate Driver??
GPS Intermediate Driver
Working Great
using Baf's GPS toggler cooked into 19588 rom set to standalone in registry
meaning no assisted gps radio 3.42.30. Locks in less than a minute while inside house. Using Garmin Mobile XT.
Chemdawg said:
I don't understand what everyone is doing. I am running Garmin Mobile XT myself, and have been for a couple of months. With the Newest radio rom, and DCD 3.2, I have no problems locking sats. ... It's just that fast. Not sure what your doing wrong.
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Careful in rushing to blame user error. Some Titans -- regardless of software settings -- just cannot match the GPS performance of other Titans. I've witnessed this myself with two Titans side-by-side. Sadly, it can be a luck of the draw...
The repeating loop of flipping back and forth between the same sets of satellites often occurs when the chipset is stuck in standby mode, so a resolution is to soft-reset the Titan. nelsongruebr's description of satellite "locks" are probably not locks but basic reception of the visible satellites before a lock - if ever - is attained. The description here of poor performance is very similar to what had stumped me on some Titans... Sadly, there may be no resolution.
I've been running Garmin Mobile for about a month on no2chem's 5067 rom and I have not had problems. I don't have to do anything other than open Garmin and within 30 seconds, I have a lock. At first, I was using the 3.39.10 radio and now I'm using 3.42.30.
so basically maybe my Titan can never be used for GPS? or maybe doing a hard reset or flashing another ROM?
Today I tried to get a lock by letting the GPS Intermediate Driver search for satellites on Garmin Mobile XT for quiet some time and had no luck... it could not even find one single satellite...
On the other hand, when I activated the COM4:COM4: it find 3 satellites, it locked to them but didn't give me a fix or a position...
I installed GPSVisualce... First it did find some satellites, like seven of them but after a couple of seconds it loose them... but I checked the coordinates that it marked and they were pretty close to where I was... so maybe it is user problem... maybe I'm missing something...
So I bring up these new questions:
What version of Garmin Mobile XT are you using?
Is somebody with the same ROM and RADIO having the same problem? (Sprint 3.56.651.0 Radio 3.42.30)
Should I flash another ROM?
thanks!!!
You need to prime the GPS first before running Garmin.
Prime it with HTC GPS Tool or GPSViewer. Once it locks, close the primer and open Garmin. Go into settings and Disable COM4:COM4, then click GPS Intermediate Driver, then click Enable.
Your problem should not be the ROM, Radio, or Garmin XT. Keep playing around with VisualGPSce as it's quick and easy to configure to use the appropriate port and will give you an easy reference as to how many satellites are seen and the number of those that a lock is made on.
Beyond that and attempting GC's QPTS GPS edit, place the blame on your hardware. The description you've given on your Titan seeing some satellites, possibly locking, and then losing then is all too familiar to what I've experienced with another Titan. You're not alone.
Problem solved!!!!
yesterday I hard reset my device and after that just installed VisualGPSce and Garmin Mobile Xt so I can try it without any other software...
I went to my house and right where I was about to go to sleep I put my Titan on his Charging cradle and open VisualGPSce and then opened Garmin Mobile XT and leave it there on my night stand all night... to my surprise when I woke up it had a lock on 7 satellites!!!! on my nighstand!!!
I supposed it needed to get a lock for some time since I'm in Venezuela and I supose it was going to be harder to lock from anther country than to lock in the US...
Thanks to everyone who posted here and tried to helped me!!!!
Excellent! Yes, when the cell network assistance feature of AGPS isn't available, for some reason the chipset on our Titans can take quite a while to download the satellite ephemeris data directly from the satellites. Though I think that you're one of the first who's recorded it requiring more than a half hour!
hehe!! i'll say more than 5 hours, cause when I saw the time data on Garmin it said that the stopped time was only like an hour and a half, so it took mora than 5 hours to get that lock...
But I think I spoke to early, yesterday when I got out of work I wanted to try to get a lock to see how long it takes, but to my surprise it didn't locked on any satellites!! not even one!! I left it again overnight and nothing!! so I'm back to zero :'(
I'll be informing you how it behaves today...
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Careful in rushing to blame user error. Some Titans -- regardless of software settings -- just cannot match the GPS performance of other Titans. I've witnessed this myself with two Titans side-by-side. Sadly, it can be a luck of the draw...
The repeating loop of flipping back and forth between the same sets of satellites often occurs when the chipset is stuck in standby mode, so a resolution is to soft-reset the Titan. nelsongruebr's description of satellite "locks" are probably not locks but basic reception of the visible satellites before a lock - if ever - is attained. The description here of poor performance is very similar to what had stumped me on some Titans... Sadly, there may be no resolution.
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I am a newbie here but as a computer engineer I totally agree. We buy many PCs, scanners, printers, etc. all of the same brand. I can have several of the exact same items on the bench and so will not do as the identical sister/brother unit will do. My theory as a tech has been Bubba went to work mad at his wife and said what the hell I am going to just throw this crap together. Then on the flip side you have the new guy wanting to make a good impression and he spends 2 hours on one product where he should have gotten out four in that same two hours...
I think it depends on the device as well...just luck of the purchase...
ok, i kinda figure out what was the problem...
As I told you before, I live in Caracas, Venezuela... and recently the government decided to change the hour (yeah I know... What the hell where they thinking) from GMT -4.00 Caracas, La Paz, to GMT -4.30 Caracas... so Microsoft created a Patch to add the new Time Zone for Caracas... I have been installing this patch for about a year now without a problem (i had previously a HTC Touch and a HTC Excalibur) without any problems... So i instal it on my Titan and thats it...
To my surprise when i did a hard reset to delete everything and installed only Garmin Mobile and VirtualGPSce tha GPS work flawlessly... I said Great!!! It work's!!! so I installed the aplications that I normally have on my Titan INCLUDING the Patch for the New Timezone, and here is where the fun begins... the GPS stop working!!!! I didn't know it was the Time Zone patch until i performed another Hard Reset and Installed only a few aplications and the GPS kept working perfectly...
Today I'm going to install ALL the aplications that I use except the Patch to see if that does the trick...
I'll be posting tonight to tell you how it goes...
Please post all discussion/issues/comments regarding Alltel Wireless GPS/aGPS in this thread.
Complete tutorial can now be found in the wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=AlltelAGPSFix
Working Alltel GPS instructions!!!
Originally Posted by tbhall77:
Shadow-Tech has done considerable work on Alltel's AGPS.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36377
People, this works!!!
FINALLY!!!
woooo hoooo!!!
Shadow-Tech rocks!!!
jtg
JerrytheGreat said:
Originally Posted by tbhall77:
Shadow-Tech has done considerable work on Alltel's AGPS.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36377
People, this works!!!
FINALLY!!!
woooo hoooo!!!
Shadow-Tech rocks!!!
jtg
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With the awesome help of our very own gc14
Right you are--GC14 laid the foundation, just needed the IP
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With the awesome help of our very own gc14
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GC--can you do a cab for this now for the less skilled?
I'm a tech, so I don't mind the registry editing.
I just love standardization.
e.g., Sprint-do this; Alltel--do this (same steps, different numbers.)
jtg
This was exactly what I was looking for! After following these instructions I've been able to get a lock within 30 seconds. Even inside my apartment or office!
Awesome instructions. Went from a 10 minute lock to 10 seconds. Can't say enough how well this works.
GC--can you do a cab for this now for the less skilled?
I'm a tech, so I don't mind the registry editing.
I just love standardization.
e.g., Sprint-do this; Alltel--do this (same steps, different numbers.)
jtg
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If I get some spare time I'll write something up. Busy right now with Arcsoft and some other things.
Thanks for the wonderful instructions. Works like a charm.
PPC6800 (Alltel) GPS problems...
Lemme just say, yes this is my first post and I have to start somewhere so why not with a question...
So I've been trying to get Google Maps to initialize the GPS reciever but it never does. It simply replies back with "No GPS reciever was found." and I know the reciever is there because at the very least the phone has to be E911 compliant so is there something I could do to further this process or am I an idiot and didn't notice something? Anything would be helpful and thank you in advance.
You did go to phone > menu - options > services > Location setting and turn it to on, right?
Ok, I guess I should ask, you do have a GPS enabled radio installed? This thing isn't Alltel stock is it?
In addition to that very valid question
If you are running custom dcd roms 3.2.x and you have alltel there is no excuse for not running radio 3.37.20. It wipes out all bluetooth, wifi, gps, and poor signal problems. I never have to wait more than 5 seconds on cold start for gps with amaze gps and never more than 10 seconds with google maps. I would recomend dcd 3.2.6. Secondly do go to location settings->on. Make sure bluetooth gps in settings is set to "com 4" and try cycling wifi and bluetooth on and off. Also hook back up to QPST, dial "##3424" go to "gps one" tab then click on the bottom "read from phone" and check your settings to make sure they stuck (!!!Do not save anything!!!). Dial ##3424 again and click "Exit" then "OK" then soft reset.
What you need to do
The questions have been asked, and it seems that from your first post that you may not have done any flashing of your phone. I can tell you that I have flashed to the below information in my signature for the first time ever using the MicroSD card option and also followed the instructions in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425565
Prior to following the instructions in that thread I could get GPS Sat lock, but only after a very long time. Once I made the changes it locks on within 30 seconds at the most. So if you have not upgraded your phone I would suggest you do so. That will solve your GPS problems
Well thank you all for the replies...Yes, its on. I checked the super GPS thread for what I should do...
Since nothing seems to be working I think I will take your guys' advice and trying flashing to DCD 3.2.6. Is there a database of stock ROMs so I can at least go back if something doesn't work out?
Didn't work for me either. Fresh flash, followed the directions to the letter.
Is there a version of the Titan that shipped without the AGPS chip?
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Didn't work for me either. Fresh flash, followed the directions to the letter.
Is there a version of the Titan that shipped without the AGPS chip?
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Antitux,
Nope--they all ship with the chip. Just read READ READ, and you'll get it.
Since the shadow-tech and GC14 updates, it now locks FAST. The location setting is definitely the most common reason people don't get it. Of course, you MUS unlock the GPS by running a patch or completely updating the firmware with one from here or ppc geeks.
jtg
also as shadow-tech says in his instructions be sure when you are in QPST you load to phone while on the GPSone tab. Otherwise it probably won't work.
Complete tutorial now complete for Alltel. Link can be found in post 2 of this thread.
Nope. Didn't work that time either.
Going to reflash one more time.
Rom Version: 3.35.671.9
Rom Date: 04/09/08
Radio Version: 03.37.20
Hardware Version: 0003
PRL version: 30033
PRI Version: 2.01_011
PHASE II COMPLETE
PHASE III IN PROGRESS (AGPS FIX FOR VZW TP)
UPDATED 12/25/08
Please read completely. I really don't want to have posts asking about things stated in this post.
First and foremost.... This fix is to be still considered beta at the present time. I WILL NOT be held responsible for any damage to your device or any charges from you carrier if you happen to be in roaming because of this.
Phase II is finally here and I know I've been asked many times on what Phase II meant. Well I now have that answer. The newest release is Verizon PRI 1.46.002 coded to allow full programming updates , full PRL updates NO banner issues and last but not least .... .... oh ya .... GPS .... "takes a bow on this one"
Hope that answers the questions I kinda reframed from answering.
Here we go again
IF SOMEONE WHO HAS NOT APPLIED MY FIX BEFORE ON A VERIZON TOUCH PRO AND WOULD BE WILLING TO DO ONE MINOR EXPERIMENT. SKIP DOWNLOADING PPST1.46.CAB IN STEP ONE AND THEN SKIP STEPS 2 THRU 5. THEN POST IF IT HAS UNLOCKED THE GPS. IF IT DIDN'T UNLOCK, APPLY THE COMPLETE FIX AS PRESENTED WITH NO DEVIATIONS.
FOR ALL OTHERS, STEP 2 IS MEANT TO ROLL BACK THE CHANGES MADE BY PHASE I OF THIS PROJECT. THAT MEANS YOUR PRI WILL BE GOING BACK TO STOCK OEM. NO HARD RESETS ARE NEEDED UNLESS YOU WANT TO CLEAR YOUR DEVICE OF ALL OTHER "FIX" INSTALLS. I WOULD SUGGEST INSTALLING PPST1.46.CAB BEFORE THE HARD RESET. I PERFORMED THAT ACTUAL PROCEDURE ONCE I COMPLETED PHASE II OF THIS PROJECT.
1. download lllboredlll_VZW_GPS_Fix_v2.cab AND PPST1.46.cab and put on your storage card or any folder on your device
2. install PPST1.46.cab
3. use gsfinder,total commander or File Explorer to navigate to \windows\ppst.exe
4. click on ppst.exe and go thru the prompts
5. reset your device as needed
6. NOW install lllboredlll_VZW_GPS_Fix_v2.cab
7. use gsfinder,total commander or File Explorer to navigate to \windows\ppst.exe
8. reset your device as needed
9. Dial *228 option 1
(the above step is the steps I did, option 2 also works but I needed to prove it takes a full update without rewriting data)
10. reset your device
11. Install HTC GPS Tool if needed
12. I would suggest a soft reset... do what you want on this one
13. Open up HTC GPS Tool. Set Chip to Q 7500 and mode to Cold Start (left soft key for those who dont know) then set baud to 4800 and open port.
There will be a registry entry made from this install with the GC's AGPS Values for future use or others testing use. Please understand that my device is not capable of AGPS for some reason. When it's figured out the "GPS Fix" will be updated.
Also make sure that your device settings are right.
Settings >> SYSTEM >> External GPS
Programs Tab- GPS Program Port: Com4
Hardware Tab- GPS Hardware Port: None, Baud Rate: 4800
Access Tab- Checkmark on "Manage GPS automatically"
Make sure you turn your location on thru your phone settings. Some ROM's do not have it enabled by default.
If you take my research and improve on it all I ask is that you atleast give me credit for the discovery. I've spent a ton of hours working with NV files and PRI's.
Hope everyone enjoys.....
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reserved....
can't believe this is so dead ... lol... oh well
It wasn't dead, everyone's too busy playing with the fix! Thanx!
gh0stb0y said:
It wasn't dead, everyone's too busy playing with the fix! Thanx!
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lol... alright fair enough.... you should definetly install v2 if your are running v1...it's well worth it
will this fix work on gsm versions?
No... This is for Verizon phones only.
Arju007 said:
will this fix work on gsm versions?
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No.....do you have a GSM TP that is GPS locked?
well forget it .. i forgot that Verizon were locked and i thought this was to fix lags and so forth and to improve .. well my bad..
Rest assured Bored, your efforts are greatly appreciated. I myself will try this fix when i get out of work. as it is, version 1 never worked for me. no matter how long I fiddled with the HTC utility. I got plenty of satellites used, but none ever fixed, nor did any gps program fix.
Hi lllboredlll - thanks again and general question
I've been following the ppcgeeks thread, btw I would guess everyone on xda is also on ppcgeeks hence the quiet thread here.
I'm one of the stock ROM users whose VZW Touch Pro uses the satellites but doesn't fix right away. They will eventually fix if I leave the HTC utility running and start driving so in every case I can get TomTom connected but it can vary anywhere from 10 to 30 minutes (not really sure on the longer period, that's the longest trip I make, its always fixed by the end.
What's the difference between used and fixed?
Soft reset and immediately going into the HTC GPS app seems to make things go quicker.
Doug
Try installing the Quick GPS Utility and run it once a week. This provides sat data that may help lock times.
lllboredlll said:
Try installing the Quick GPS Utility and run it once a week. This provides sat data that may help lock times.
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Where would I find the Quick GPS utility?
dsteinschneider said:
I've been following the ppcgeeks thread, btw I would guess everyone on xda is also on ppcgeeks hence the quiet thread here.
I'm one of the stock ROM users whose VZW Touch Pro uses the satellites but doesn't fix right away. They will eventually fix if I leave the HTC utility running and start driving so in every case I can get TomTom connected but it can vary anywhere from 10 to 30 minutes (not really sure on the longer period, that's the longest trip I make, its always fixed by the end.
What's the difference between used and fixed?
Soft reset and immediately going into the HTC GPS app seems to make things go quicker.
Doug
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Used is satellites it can see. fixed means it got a lock on them.
straylight said:
Where would I find the Quick GPS utility?
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I'm looking for the VGA version.
is there anyway to have htc gps utility keep the port open so that after i reboot the phone even if not thanks for the GPS lol and awesome work
New ROM from Scott and lllboredlll working for slow fixing touch pro
I first had much trouble with the stock ROM and lllboredlll's gps unlock. It could work but took sometimes 20 minutes to fix. I unocked the phone and installed Scott's ROM from the day before Christmas. At first I thought I hadn't reached success because while inside it acted like it did with the stock ROM and the GPS unlock. Outside and in the car my XV6850 TomTom 7 is locking quicker than my 6700 with a Globalsat BT-359 receiver. Usually in 20 seconds.
Thanks again to Scott and lllboredlll!
Doug
glad to see you got it working
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I'm looking for the VGA version.
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I have an OEM I was going to bake into ROM. Wasnt sure if that helped or not. Didint want to turn the thread the other way but it did seem to help. Wasnt sure if it was placebo or not.
If you havent found it I can try to CAB it up from OEM. Looks simple... Let m know...
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I first had much trouble with the stock ROM and lllboredlll's gps unlock. It could work but took sometimes 20 minutes to fix. I unocked the phone and installed Scott's ROM from the day before Christmas. At first I thought I hadn't reached success because while inside it acted like it did with the stock ROM and the GPS unlock. Outside and in the car my XV6850 TomTom 7 is locking quicker than my 6700 with a Globalsat BT-359 receiver. Usually in 20 seconds.
Thanks again to Scott and lllboredlll!
Doug
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Good deal!!!!
See what TEAMWORK does!!!!
Yes i know not another GPS thread i do apologize but every other GPS thread doesn't touch on the subject Windows 7. Which seems to very limited in guides and such (I miss xp it was so much easier) but those days are gone, and now i have to make due with windows 7 which isn't half bad. My issue is I'am using
Version 3.2 Heavy (WM 6.5) *WM7 inspired UI*
Build 21885
Radio 3.42.50
First question is this build even gps compatible im sure it is
Second ? the radio im using is the GPS enables radio right?
Third if all the above are correct why wont my phone get a lock on any sat's
ive used Gps viewer wich comes with the rom and it sees the gps on com port 4 but it doesnt seem to lock on any satilites
again im sorry for posting on a topic that has alot of Info but im straight confused if i missed a step or something plz dont flame if this is a bad topic remove it but i dont care to argue with anyone ty
I can help you out but I need a little more info about your phone. Are you by any chance using a Verizon or Telus branded Mogul? (xv6800, p4000)
Also what carrier are you using?
Its probably either you aGPS settings arent set correctly in service programming or the GPS on your device is locked altogether. Either way I have a fix for you, just let me know some more info.
Yes i am using verizon xv6800 with verizon i have followed the qpst steps and the tellus gps cab install still to no avail i apreciate any help you may offer
ANd ya i think your right that its locked altogether i went from the verizon rom w/ wm 6.1 to your rom i posted above some ppl say u need to go to a leaked rom first the to custom wich i have no clue where this "leaked" rom is
My gpsOne info is
All 9 checks in the boxes
PDE IP address: 216.198.139.92
PDE port: 8889
PDE Transport: IP
Position calculation: PDE
I hate the fact verizon locks up these awsome phones there dwarfing the potential even though the xv6800 is abit older it seems to have a huge following
GPS
On my Verizon XV6800 the IP Address is; 216.198.139.92. Try that and see if it works.
ill give it a shot wonder if i miss typed it we'll see
Ya i had the 92 just miss type ty for pointing that out
GPS
Also my Position calculation is set to Mobile not PDE.
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Yes i am using verizon xv6800 with verizon i have followed the qpst steps and the tellus gps cab install still to no avail i apreciate any help you may offer
ANd ya i think your right that its locked altogether i went from the verizon rom w/ wm 6.1 to your rom i posted above some ppl say u need to go to a leaked rom first the to custom wich i have no clue where this "leaked" rom is
My gpsOne info is
All 9 checks in the boxes
PDE IP address: 216.198.139.92
PDE port: 8889
PDE Transport: IP
Position calculation: PDE
I hate the fact verizon locks up these awsome phones there dwarfing the potential even though the xv6800 is abit older it seems to have a huge following
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Just follow these instructions to a T, do not skip anything, do not miss anything. And read it several times until you understand what needs to be done. Just be patient and take your time. Also another tip is dont let your phone sit to long in bootloader or you can error out while trying to flash. Put the phone in bootloader literally right before you are going to flash something.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3687027&postcount=144
And do not use any valhalla, or telus agps CABs, just follow my instructions perfectly. And on my Verizon ROMs the aGPS settings are as follows. Make sure yours are the same in QPST and after all is said and done your GPS should work like a champ. Remember (DO NOT SKIP ANYTHING IN THE LINK ABOVE!!)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]
"ServerPort"=8888
"ServerIP"="66.174.95.132"
If you are going to use the Telus or Alltel Server instead of the settings above, then make sure you make the registry location the same as in QPST. Its all up to you, just get your GPS unlocked first using my instructions.
the issue is none of these work on windows 7 X64
junjlo said:
the issue is none of these work on windows 7 X64
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Use someone elses computer then.. Windows 7 sucks for working with or flashing PPC's.
Ya i figured this out fast this is gonna be fun ok ima install windows xp on dual boot
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Ya i figured this out fast this is gonna be fun ok ima install windows xp on dual boot
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Thats a good idea if you are going to be messing with Custom ROMs and so forth, dont forget to fully update your Operating System and then install Active Sync first then HTC windows drivers second. All found in my Unlock Tools Directory.
Followed it all still didnt work think im beat i do have an ambicom bluetooth gps device works just fine just realy hate my electronics being locked down i tap out on this 1 ty you all for the help
Almost a minute after i posted my lose i looked over and it was working hell ya thank you very much although inside my apartment got about as much at the bluetooth gps device but im happy cuz driveing around my bluetooth gps is excellent so we'll see how good this gps is
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Followed it all still didnt work think im beat i do have an ambicom bluetooth gps device works just fine just realy hate my electronics being locked down i tap out on this 1 ty you all for the help
Almost a minute after i posted my lose i looked over and it was working hell ya thank you very much although inside my apartment got about as much at the bluetooth gps device but im happy cuz driveing around my bluetooth gps is excellent so we'll see how good this gps is
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Thats why you should wait and test before you post. Especially if trying to test inside an apartment.. It is well known that for GPS you want a clear view of the sky for a fast GPS lock. Inside it could take up to 10 minutes depending on the circumstances or cold, warm, hot start.. Glad I could help you out and get it working.
you are 100% correct and i should have known that i appreciate your time