htc and utstarcom battery identical? - Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development

I am looking for an extended battery for a recently acquired Mogul and have my research into the various kinds.
Won't go with cheap Chinese generics or expensive Mugen and Seidio but the OEM extended batteries seem a real bargain now, between $16 and $22 with cover on eBay.
One states a spec fo 2100 vs 2200 and one is branded HTC while the other is UTstarcom. Are these basically the same battery?
thanks

UTStarcom is a trade name for HTC devices. It'll be the same.

But beware buying old batteries (over a year might be okay... two is pushing it). Lithium-ion tech degrades with age, even if it's stored at the proper charge and temperature.

no dice man, the inputs are on the side of the utstarcom (apache) battery so don't waste your money

krazycanuck82 said:
no dice man, the inputs are on the side of the utstarcom (apache) battery so don't waste your money
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That's not entirely true.
I happen to have an extended UTSTARCOM battery in my Mogul and it works perfectly.
Just make sure you get the correct model number.
The one I have is BTE6800SB and it came with the fat back cover.

Well - I ordered this one on eBay - item 160321117355 for 16 bucks, free shipping - best price I could find.
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Sprint Mogul PPC6800 XV6800 2100mAh Extended Battery with Door
Product Description
The Sprint Mogul PPC6800 XV6800 2100mAh Extended Battery w/ Door (BTE6800S) is the perfect solution for people who like to travel. The 2100mAh Lithium-ion battery delivers more power, ensuring longer talk and standby time. The Sprint Mogul PPC6800 XV6800 2100mAh Extended Battery includes a Dark Silver Extended Battery Door, which is necessary to accommodate the larger battery size. This battery is a factory original item, made to meet or exceed the highest standards of quality and performance.
Sprint Mogul PPC6800 XV6800 2100mAh Extended Battery (BTE6800S) Features:
* Made specifically for the Sprint Mogul PPC6800 XV6800 to extend the battery-life of your PDA phone
* Perfect to use as a spare or even as a replacement for your old battery
* OEM Original item manufactured by HTC to exceed highest standards of quality and performance
* Includes a Dark Silver Extended Battery Door to accommodate larger battery size
Compatible with:
Sprint Mogul PPC6800
HTC 6800
Verizon XV6800
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The description clearly state it is for a HTC Mogul 6800 and is factory OEM. The picture shows a UTstarcom battery and a back for the larger battery in the correct dark gray color. I believe the model is BTE6800S.
He said he warrants the battery for 90 days, far longer than most on eBay, so it gives me plenty of time to charge the battery a number of times to determine if it is 100%.
I've searched around but not found much in the way of rapid wall chargers to shorten the time to charge up the larger batteries. I see some have higher voltage and speak of some sort of chip to regulate or manage charging.
Any ideas on the specs and type?

you know i was looking at that one yesterday too... believe i will be ordering one up soon.....since i now have the data plan.. I notice my battery doesnt last nearly as long as it was previously... (also didnt have as much crap running when i didnt have the dataplan... )
windtrader said:
Well - I ordered this one on eBay - item 160321117355 for 16 bucks, free shipping - best price I could find.
The description clearly state it is for a HTC Mogul 6800 and is factory OEM. The picture shows a UTstarcom battery and a back for the larger battery in the correct dark gray color. I believe the model is BTE6800S.
He said he warrants the battery for 90 days, far longer than most on eBay, so it gives me plenty of time to charge the battery a number of times to determine if it is 100%.
I've searched around but not found much in the way of rapid wall chargers to shorten the time to charge up the larger batteries. I see some have higher voltage and speak of some sort of chip to regulate or manage charging.
Any ideas on the specs and type?
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The OEM extended battery arrived today. Cover is far darker than the stock case and the ring around the camera lens fell off. Will post a note to the vendor to request another.
I made a profile sketch and a couple pics showing how thick it is. It is about twice the thickness as the original battery.
I started to quantify the amount of current the phone draws under various conditions. With this data, one can more precisely derive an estimate of the amps used for a given user's usage pattern, then derive size of the extended battery. Look for another thread for details.

The OEM extended battery arrived today. Cover is far darker than the stock case and the ring around the camera lens fell off. Will post a note to the vendor to request another.
I made a profile sketch and a couple pics showing how thick it is. It is about twice the thickness as the original battery.
I started to quantify the amount of current the phone draws under various conditions. With this data, one can more precisely derive an estimate of the amps used for a given user's usage pattern, then derive size of the extended battery. Look for another thread for details.

i ended up bying a oem battery... from ebay...
non extended or non name... bought the same part number...
let it charge fully.. then discharge 100% a few times...
i used to get 4-5hrs out of my cell..
now i get alot longer..
im not a heavy phone user like some..
some txt messages, phone calls, palringo, s2play to and fro work, few other things..
charged last night at 6pm... and still have 33%
im happy with this... didnt want the thick phone..

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[Review] - Extended Battery

Ok, here is a little review on the extended battery (2800 mAh) and its bulky back casing.
comparing the extended battery casing and standard casing, and the batteries:
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in my hand:
physically, the back casing fits nicely...yeah it makes the TP2 more bulky and yeah, you'll notice the bulk. but, i need the extra power....
Physical Review
The extended battery is heavier than the standard one, so, its not just adding the extra bulk but also extra weight. If you are already used to the weight of TP2, you wont notice the extra weight but you will immediately notice the extra bulk!! Surprisingly the back casing sits firmer than the standard casing, i dont experience the usual "accidently opened casing" using theextended battery casing. The material is plastic with a glossy finish, similar to original casing (quality is still questionable thou), sadly, the color is light grey so it makes the coloring uneven. A darker grey would be better. The extended casing will add an extra around 3-4 mm to the device. I did not notice any difference in the sound produce by the extra casing compared to the standard one. the volume keys works well, the mute button also does the job, glowing only on the side gaps. The stylus hole is too deep, its a pain to get the stylus out. But hey, i dont think I ever take out the stylus except only when I have to do a softreset.
Performance
I need to let you know that i'm a very heavy user of the device. Using standard battery on EDGE, i usually get 9 hours of juice, sometimes less (4.5 hours standby, 4.5 hours usage). When i turn it to HSPA, it would go for only 6 hours. If i use automatic, it will go in between. My test on the battery is using the automatic for the first cycle, EDGE and HSPA will be added later.
Test result:
Automatic setting: 14 hours
EDGE only: 17 hours
HSPA only: 10 hours
Looking good there.... I predict for normal usage will add extra 1-2 days of durability.
and oh yeah, i bought it here...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200368357997&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Maybe you could mention it's a 2800mAh battery in the first post.
Wonder how long the battery lasts. I get about 3 to 4 days with my Vario V wich is a lot for a WM device
thanks mate, just edited it,
my standard battery last me for 9 hours so i'm hoping it would last me more than 15 hours
Seems like a pretty heavy device to me. Since the original TP2 isn't really light when you get it.
added performance review.
forgive me for asking, but what exactly do you do on the device that drains the battery that quickly ?? i get by about 3 days on standby, 36 hours with cell radio on, 36 hours without. a little bit of wifi and text messaging and around 15 minutes of phone calls each day, give or take a few minutes.
Just a guess, but probably the GPS is the problem. That, on any phone, EATS battery capacity rapidly.
There's a new SiRF chipset - v4 - due out soon, that allegedly combats this problem, but we won't be seeing that in phones for at least two generations yet, due to design, prototyping, pre-production, production, and lead time to market issues, of course.
i would, however, jump on this if htc released their own official battery pack with a proper battery cover.
does ne one know if this will fit the cdma version (telus) touch pro 2
Isn't the extended battery WIDER than the original? How does it fit in then?
Isn't the extended battery WIDER than the original? How does it fit in then?
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LOL with new casing man.
somethingdope said:
forgive me for asking, but what exactly do you do on the device that drains the battery that quickly ?? i get by about 3 days on standby, 36 hours with cell radio on, 36 hours without. a little bit of wifi and text messaging and around 15 minutes of phone calls each day, give or take a few minutes.
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I'm using my push mail as replacement of me texting, and i do mails a lot!!!
leginag said:
Isn't the extended battery WIDER than the original? How does it fit in then?
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not WIDER but THICKER and it fits in well in the compartment thou it will pop up half of the extra battery's body.
RogerStenning said:
Just a guess, but probably the GPS is the problem. That, on any phone, EATS battery capacity rapidly.
There's a new SiRF chipset - v4 - due out soon, that allegedly combats this problem, but we won't be seeing that in phones for at least two generations yet, due to design, prototyping, pre-production, production, and lead time to market issues, of course.
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nah, GPS is normal.....its the data traffic that eats me battery
Try to replace the battery when it runs low.. Maybe it will increase the battery life.
this was the case with the 2800 battery for the tytn II...
It refilled till 60 % i think after first replace, than till 20 after second..
I think thats a known issue for some of yours
RogerStenning said:
There's a new SiRF chipset - v4 - due out soon, that allegedly combats this problem, but we won't be seeing that in phones for at least two generations yet, due to design, prototyping, pre-production, production, and lead time to market issues, of course.
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Offtopic, but.
SiRF IV is for dedicated GPS devices. Phones have been using A-GPS functions of SoC chips for some time now. Now recent *phone* that I know of uses SiRF chips and I don't expect this to change for the foreseeable future, even with SiRF IV. Yes, there will be lower power A-GPS SoCs out there, but the savings will be negated by higher Mhz CPU/GPU combinations.
I got a 2nd battery which I think more practical..
With the bigger battery, it won't fit in the case or the car holder for GPS use!
phigafr said:
I got a 2nd battery which I think more practical..
With the bigger battery, it won't fit in the case or the car holder for GPS use!
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where did you buy it from anyways?
Got it locally in a PDA shop
phigafr said:
I got a 2nd battery which I think more practical..
With the bigger battery, it won't fit in the case or the car holder for GPS use!
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true it wont fit, but more practical in a way u dont have to charge 2 batteries and i use my car tray and sits my tp2 there using antislip surface (tilted) looks more natural.

Extended battery for G1

I've looked through a bunch of the postings on replacement batteries for the G1 and recently came across the following on Ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...0195414&_trkparms=tab=Watching#ht_1867wt_1044
The ad looked a little suspect, because the description says 2300mAH, but the picture shows a battery with 2200 mAH. I emailed the seller, and they told me that the both the pictures AND the description were inaccurate and batteries they had were actually rated 2400mAH.
Wondering if anyone has had experience with this particular seller or this kind of battery. Seems like they're having a sale currently until Monday, for the battery + door for only $9.52 which seems insanely cheap.
The Yoobao brand battery which was reviewed here is 2x as expensive:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522146&highlight=battery
So I figure I might take a chance with it. Any thoughts / advice would be appreciated.
The shell looks way to goofy with the battery hump. I would get one with a full case, the only drawback is the speaker has more air to move through and the valume is a little quieter.
Yeah the cover put me off that one, although the sale price is nice. I suppose with that cover it would fit in a dock though.
I just got this one a couple of days ago: http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-G1-T-MOBILE...s?hash=item4ceabd1c59&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177 First impressions weren't too good, the battery meter when charging goes up in jumps and then stays on 99% for some time, it then died overnight despite being on 30%. Second day however after 11 hours off charge and used heavilly it still claimed 50%. I might do a mini-review of it when I have had a few more days to judge it.
I ordered two batteries off of eBay one was a 2400 MAH battery which changed the phones form factor because of the added thickness and necessary change to a bigger battery door. It made my G1 so fat I chose not to use it. Then I found a deal on eBay with a battery with 1600 mah for 9.99... i have about a week with it and cannot complain. if you guys are interested in the merchant let me know and ill post his info or PM me
newjaruz said:
I ordered two batteries off of eBay one was a 2400 MAH battery which changed the phones form factor because of the added thickness and necessary change to a bigger battery door. It made my G1 so fat I chose not to use it. Then I found a deal on eBay with a battery with 1600 mah for 9.99... i have about a week with it and cannot complain. if you guys are interested in the merchant let me know and ill post his info or PM me
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Newjaruz,
It would be very helpful if you could post the link to the battery that you bought. Thanks,
I got a Seido battery and cover off of Amazon. It was more $ then eBay, but it has a warranty.
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Newjaruz,
It would be very helpful if you could post the link to the battery that you bought. Thanks,
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this the one i ordered one too http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350242308920&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:GB:1123
So, does the 1600mAH Andida brand spare battery from ebay seem to last a lot longer than the stock battery?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350242308920&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:GB:1123
I read a review from someone about a 1700mAH battery from Ebay that was the same size as stock but didn't actually last any longer during the day.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Q638-High-Capac...ries?hash=item4a9a076896&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14 is the one I bought off ebay. I have been very pleased with it. I can easily get over a full day with gps, wifi and 3g turned on as well as the screen brightness set at 50% and surfin the net all day. You also don't have that goofy hump back. The only draw back is the wait time to get things from China, but overall well worth it.
idk about that seller but i got the 2400mah and its amazing. and for the loss in sound quality just use my fix......super glue a cut down pen cap to the extended battery cover by the holes for sound. and obviously cut it down to size and the thingie off the side off so it can fit properly in the phone and the sound will just travel straight from the speaker to your eyes cuz you dojnt have all that space to muffle it anymore.
sorry if my description was bland. it should be simople enough
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Newjaruz,
It would be very helpful if you could post the link to the battery that you bought. Thanks,
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Ok here is the vendors page:
http://myworld.ebay.com/obo_hk
and this was the battery:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390071957890#ht_2544wt_939
JJbdoggg said:
this the one i ordered one too http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350242308920&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:GB:1123
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I think we have the same battery
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I think we have the same battery
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cool, i hope for the both of us it works as advertised and dosent blow up in our pants and destroy our balls lol
I purchased the original battery with the link I posted at the beginning of the thread. As soon as I can receive and review it, I will post results of how well it works. They say you get what you pay for, but hopefully, its not the case this time!
I bought the Andida battery too (shipped on the 29th) and it just arrived today. Here's the packaging
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Calibrating it right now and it's taking longer to charge compared to my OEM battery so it might be legit. I'm disappointed that it didn't come with any packaging though except for the bubble wrap. I was expecting the packaging in the pics with the plastic box. Comes with a nice little Andida holographic sticker in the back though lol. I'll test it out later today after it's charged for 4-5 hours.
yup... thats exactly the same one I purchased... enjoy! It is a moderate increase... but it doesn't seem substantial... but it was worth the 10 bucks.
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I bought the Andida battery too (shipped on the 29th) and it just arrived today. Here's the packaging
(Sorry if it's blurry, I used the camera on the G1)
Calibrating it right now and it's taking longer to charge compared to my OEM battery so it might be legit. I'm disappointed that it didn't come with any packaging though except for the bubble wrap. I was expecting the packaging in the pics with the plastic box. Comes with a nice little Andida holographic sticker in the back though lol. I'll test it out later today after it's charged for 4-5 hours.
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just got mine too haven't noticed any difference ill try calibrating it
okay so i calibrated the battery and have noticed a HUGE difference my old g1 battery would be at 40% at the end of a day of moderate usage but this one is strill it 70%. idk if my old one was faulty or something but this one is amazing
JJbdoggg said:
okay so i calibrated the battery and have noticed a HUGE difference my old g1 battery would be at 40% at the end of a day of moderate usage but this one is strill it 70%. idk if my old one was faulty or something but this one is amazing
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Hey that's not too bad, don't forget Lithium are always degrading so your old one will have been better.
What's a "day" and "moderate" usage though?
I'd consider my last days usage "light", no calls, an hour of open sudoku, couple of emails read, couple of apps updated, couple of dozen+ webpages (a lot were just google though, some xda postings), 20 mins music, about 20-30 mins games (just normal, no emulators) and a bit of random tooling about.
I have the 2850mAh, normally I have been getting down to 30-60% after a 17/18 hour day. After this lighter usage I am at 62% after 29h31m with the screen on 2h45m (wifi is always on).

My Battery Collection.

All these batteries + G1 Dock with 2nd slot battery charger = WIN.
So. Many. Batteries.
Just got my other two in from ebay at $4 a pop. They were supposed to be OEM replacements but to my suprise, one of them says "1300mAh Replacement Battery For HTC G1". The other looks like a replica of an OEM battery but you can tell its not OEM. For $8 for both though, who really cares? lol, here's some pics of all my batteries.
"OEM" Replacements From Ebay At $4 A Pop.
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Seidio 2600mAh With Extended Back Door $50
Andida "1600mAh" Extended Batteries (2) They are $10 each but i got em $10 for both
And of course, my stock OEM pos bloated HTC battery but you all know what that looks like.
Think i got enough Juice?
Impressive. I also have a 'defective' andida that I charge with an external charger. I have one of those white label batteries that came with one of my external chargers. It's a good emergency battery, but inferior to the OEM. I have a Seido 1400 that works pretty well. The Seido and the Andida seem to last about the same time in the phone. I still use the OEM even though it started bulging a bit. I hope that doesn't mean it's about to explode.
Depending on usage, I can rotate out all four batteries in a single day. The new radio has improved battery life, though.
How do they perform?
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Impressive. I also have a 'defective' andida that I charge with an external charger. I have one of those white label batteries that came with one of my external chargers. It's a good emergency battery, but inferior to the OEM. I have a Seido 1400 that works pretty well. The Seido and the Andida seem to last about the same time in the phone. I still use the OEM even though it started bulging a bit. I hope that doesn't mean it's about to explode.
Depending on usage, I can rotate out all four batteries in a single day. The new radio has improved battery life, though.
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Yea, i was gonna spring for the Seidio 1400 but for the price, i just spent a couple more dollars and got the 2600 Extended at the time. My OEM battery is buldgy as a mofo too, that sh!t scares me sometimes lol. It dies so quick, its ridiculous.
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How do they perform?
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There is no words for the Seidio 2600, that thing is a beast. 3 days easy with everything on. The Andidas last about a day and a half with heavy usage and some things turned off. The others i havent tested yet and the OEM is garbage, lasts about 4 hours max with LIGHT usage.
I have no plans on making my G1 a super brick...yet.
Hey do you have a link for the andida battery, I cant find'em anywhere .
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I have no plans on making my G1 a super brick...yet.
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and you shouldnt have to when they have these slim extended batteries that fit with the extended cover now because believe me, those things turn your phone into the only brick.
Ace42 said:
Hey do you have a link for the andida battery, I cant find'em anywhere .
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Unforunately, he stopped selling them after the whole fiasco he went through with getting a bad batch and sending it out to everyone then having to replace them all...he just called it quits. =\
If you wanna see exactly what im talking about, just read up on the Andida 1600mAh Battery thread, its like 50 pages long from various XDA members including myself waiting months and months and months for a working $10 extended battery...it was crazy.
On another note though, i've heard there are other 1600mAh extended batteries on ebay so just do a search and they should come up. I think i remember one guy telling me about "Ecell" extended batteries? Give it a go and let us know how it goes.

QCell 2x AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4G i717 2800mAh Slim Battery + Charger

Got myself this along with my friend. Just got a i717 and probably need some batteries from all those video playback i'll be doing. It's rated at 2800mAh seems pretty good! I'll post some results in next couple days!
http://www.amazon.com/QCell-Samsung...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329875393&sr=1-14
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I'm really curious about this one.
I wouldn't mind trying it just because we don't have NFC baked into our batteries.
Although I'm not sure how it will do vs. the OEM one
consider this is near the price of a single official battery, i think this is worth a shot!
Does this require a new battery cover? If not I might pick it up.
WOW... only 2800mah x 2 pcs + charger, It's a very good deal WOW WOW WOW
Does this fit behind the stock battery cover?
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Does this fit behind the stock battery cover?
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From what we can tell, yes. Just higher capacity w/ the same size.
One nice thing about this is that we get to keep our NFC while boosting the battery
Has anyone got this yet and tested it? It's very tempting... although my note's battery life is better than my skyrocket...
I highly doubt it actually has a higher capacity than the OEM battery. All of the aftermarket batteries I've tried, even though claiming to have higher capacities than OEM (2900mAh), have only been ~65-75% of OEM. They seem to have no problem lying. So the best deal so far seems to be the $3 batteries on ebay.
definitely report back with some results. I would love to know if they are atleast as good as OEM although I am always really skeptical about after market batteries as I have yet to find any that work as they claim....
I would love it if a 3000mAh could fit stock.
i would agree IF it really pans out to be a 3000MAh battery however if history dictates anything... it wont...
QCell has some good reviews on Amazon. And you also get a battery charger. I think it would be worth it
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Tapatalk
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I highly doubt it actually has a higher capacity than the OEM battery. All of the aftermarket batteries I've tried, even though claiming to have higher capacities than OEM (2900mAh), have only been ~65-75% of OEM. They seem to have no problem lying. So the best deal so far seems to be the $3 batteries on ebay.
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Lying???? That is a terrible thing to say. Everyone knows you can get batteries for 1/4 the price and they are just as good...especially pin Ebay!
Stick with OEM on batteries for better performance. I found out the hard way a few times.
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Lying???? That is a terrible thing to say. Everyone knows you can get batteries for 1/4 the price and they are just as good...especially pin Ebay!
Stick with OEM on batteries for better performance. I found out the hard way a few times.
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OEM are good no doubt but definitely not the best bang for the bucks. Consider price of one oem is 4 of these. Even if they are of 80% capacity of oem, it is still much more than original capacity combined
ran some tests for a week and these are faring very well. In fact with these two batteries I don't need to use my OEM ones anymore. Both batteries last as long as the OEM batteries I have. With these two, I can go out for a full day without worry of no power This is quite good of an investment for my i717 juice sucker.
Wonder when the extended battery for this is out. Will be interesting to have just one battery and that's it
ckang008 said:
ran some tests for a week and these are faring very well. In fact with these two batteries I don't need to use my OEM ones anymore. Both batteries last as long as the OEM batteries I have. With these two, I can go out for a full day without worry of no power This is quite good of an investment for my i717 juice sucker.
Wonder when the extended battery for this is out. Will be interesting to have just one battery and that's it
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You mean this one?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...HW_11?ie=UTF8&m=A3AT7H01XL35HW&n=&s=&v=glance
i am already using it and it works very well. Give you some ideas, with my originally battery, it normally lost 50% in around six hours (not very bad tho), with this qcell, i lost around 50% in ten hours. but that's in my case only, not sure about others.
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You mean this one?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...HW_11?ie=UTF8&m=A3AT7H01XL35HW&n=&s=&v=glance
i am already using it and it works very well. Give you some ideas, with my originally battery, it normally lost 50% in around six hours (not very bad tho), with this qcell, i lost around 50% in ten hours. but that's in my case only, not sure about others.
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Is the battery from the link above compatible with AT&T Note?
It says it is NOT compatible on the link above.
ckang008 said:
ran some tests for a week and these are faring very well. In fact with these two batteries I don't need to use my OEM ones anymore. Both batteries last as long as the OEM batteries I have. With these two, I can go out for a full day without worry of no power This is quite good of an investment for my i717 juice sucker.
Wonder when the extended battery for this is out. Will be interesting to have just one battery and that's it
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I'm surprised; you are having a much better experience than I did. Care to do some rundown tests of your own and compare to mine?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23055521&postcount=17
Just an FYI for everyone, I weighed the batteries, here are the results:
QCELL: 39 grams
HYPERION: 41 grams
Samsung OEM: 49 grams

3450 mAh battery: is it legit?

Ok, i think that my Moto G4 Plus battery is going down for good. I am planning on buying another one, and i started searching for a slightly bigger one. I found one for my Nexus 5, back in the day and it had a capacity of 2450 mAh instead of 2300.
Now i found one for this phone that is 3450 mAh. It is sold on Aliexpress on what it looks like an official store/seller from this Losoncoer brand. (???)
The capacity increase actually makes sense as it has a 15% increase from stock battery. My Nexus 5 enhanced battery had 7% increase and it was a smaller packaging, so i don't think it's THAT blatantly fake.
My only doubt is: is it stable enough? I don't plan to have this phone for many years yet, so a slightly less stable battery in the long time distance is ok to me if i can get a 15% more daily use NOW.
Have you guys heard of it? I couldn't find anything on google, let alone xda itself, but maybe i missed something.
Here is the link for the battery:
LOSONCOER 3450mAh GA40 High quality battery For Motorola Moto G4 Plus GA40 battery + Tracking number
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Ok, i think that my Moto G4 Plus battery is going down for good. I am planning on buying another one, and i started searching for a slightly bigger one. I found one for my Nexus 5, back in the day and it had a capacity of 2450 mAh instead of 2300.
Now i found one for this phone that is 3450 mAh. It is sold on Aliexpress on what it looks like an official store/seller from this Losoncoer brand. (???)
The capacity increase actually makes sense as it has a 15% increase from stock battery. My Nexus 5 enhanced battery had 7% increase and it was a smaller packaging, so i don't think it's THAT blatantly fake.
My only doubt is: is it stable enough? I don't plan to have this phone for many years yet, so a slightly less stable battery in the long time distance is ok to me if i can get a 15% more daily use NOW.
Have you guys heard of it? I couldn't find anything on google, let alone xda itself, but maybe i missed something.
Here is the link for the battery:
LOSONCOER 3450mAh GA40 High quality battery For Motorola Moto G4 Plus GA40 battery + Tracking number
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Once I bought battery for my Samsung galaxy s3 from other brand. Original battery was of 2100 mah but battery that I bought was of 2200 mah with same size. But the battery backup was actually less than original battery though it was of slightly higher capacity.
So if it cheap enough for you, you can just give it a try and share your experience. And it does not seems to be fake.
The "store" has less than 10 ratings...
There is a similar battery here too. They have misspelled the word "perfect" on the label.
I have bought several things on Alibaba. ALL of them had issues.
LE: On eBay I saw some so-called OE batteries, cheap, marked as "Engineering Sample". Those where not supposed to be sold, mfg date shows something like March 2016 or Dec 2016... basically old stock. Others don't even have a mfg date printed on them.
All Li-ion batteries start to "age" immediately after mfg, regardless if they are used or just shelved. I would stay away from those too.
Enjoy burning your house down...
Hey, the OP made me curious.
Since it is only $13 and since I have house insurance, I think I will buy one, just to test it
Well, I got mine today and I have replaced it. Seems OK for now, came with 56% charge, it charged fine. The box had a label with Production Date 01-22-2018, which is good (if true).
To remove the old battery I used a Torx #3 drive. I didn't re-apply the double-back sticky tape on back of the battery, I didn't have any and I don't see it's usefulness. Careful when "peeling" out the old battery, it "bends" very easy, it's mechanical resistance like a stronger putty, don't puncture it (when prying) under any circumstance!
Hmm.. I was actually looking for a new battery and was considering buying this.... after reading some of the comments, yes it seems it fits that definition of "too good to be true..."
If your high quality battery is called "Enhanced Business Batter" I wouldn't buy it. Batteries have a limit to their energy density and some cheap chinese firm that uses bing translator won't change that.
After a few days (two weeks) of testing, I appreciate that this new battery lasts about as long as my former 2 year old battery.
Well, $12 down the Chinese drain:
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32835666425.html
SoNic67 said:
After a few days (two weeks) of testing, I appreciate that this new battery lasts about as long as my former 2 year old battery.
Well, $12 down the Chinese drain:
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32835666425.html
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You mean the same as original?
two year used original
i think is from the same factory that "kompson" batteries from china. simply the best you can buy

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