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Hi All,
I wanted to know if everyone thought it was time to upgrade to windows mobile 2003 yet or not? Please select yes or no in the poll above and leva any messages for me please!
Thanks Guys! Jas
IMHO, I don't think the general populous should upgrade to 2003. As far as I'm hearing, it's just not stable enough. When the bugs have been ironed out, then maybe.
Just me 2 Euro worth...
Keith Burke
Ireland. 8)
Stability?
Hi
I've used about 4 versions of PPC2003 so far, and I havent had major issues with them. The only issue with stability is with me as a user - I cant seem to help hopping ROMs as and when they become available.
Then again, which Microsoft product has been free of 'bugs' for PPC 2003 to be an exception. YOu lived with 2002 and all its bugs, because you didnt have a choice - not because it was flawless.
Totally agree with sandyind! :lol:
I would tend to agree, in that there haven't been many [any] Microsoft products that have been flawless. But I'd still wait until it became a little more stable. Maybe wait for the next 2003 update.
Regards
Keith Burke
Ireland
WM2003 SMS - Reason enough to upgrade
If you use SMS like it was IM, then WM2003 is the greatest, now you can actually see SMS length and that the message was sent. Besides most of us here install beta drivers for video, sound etc to get the most out of our hardware, why not every other gadget we own ;-)
Hi everyone,
thanks for the massive interest and polls! So with it 87% yes so far, would it be safe to say the pro's cancel out the bugs and a thumbs up to upgrading? Does anyone know what the main bugs are which are putting people off?
Do we know a rough time when the next updated version is going to be out?
Thanks for all your efforts guy and Gals!!!
Jas
jaso2005 said:
Hi All,
I wanted to know if everyone thought it was time to upgrade to windows mobile 2003 yet or not? Please select yes or no in the poll above and leva any messages for me please!
Thanks Guys! Jas
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well, I thought it was time to upgrade but it seems not yet at least for me since Arabic support was Important.
i upgraded to WM2003 and play with it for a while and tried several Arabization tools unfortunetly none of them works for me then decide to downgrade back to 2002 and wait untill somebody will release Arabic support for the WM2003.
Othman
Hi,
Is it easy to uninstall?
Cheers
Jas
2 days now and I am happy with it.
There is a masive increase in speed with pocket snes and
the always-on gprs is wonderful.
There is one bug if you run ByteCounter with EzWAP2,
EzWAP2 will disappear and wont start any more.
I live in dread of the SD erasure bug so far this has not happen.
right it looks like im going to upgrade, will do it tomorrow night any advice for installation? 8)
Jas
Let's get some rumors and discussion going here. I definitely want to flash my phone with WM6.
Anyone heard anything about a potential release/leak?
I know I heard somewhere that they are/were using the StrTrk as a test device for the Smartphone (standard?) edition of WM6, but haven't heard much else of it....
No news here but I've heard the same as you, the StrTrk was used as a test phone for WM6. I've emailed HTC Support but who knows if they'll ever reply.
I think with the new rumor of the StarTrk replacement, HTC S420/Erato, there isn't going to be a WM6 unless you get it from a custom build or from another platform/vendor. Past experiences show that vendors would rather us buy a whole new phone. But....This gives you something to look forward to. Just in a new version. IMHO - A much better upgrade in the clamshell design.
Thread started here on the new phone - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297847
Enjoy -
And from most accounts - HTC isn't going to update their pre-existing hardware to WM6. There have been a few rumors stating they will but from most of the official responces from HTC it's not looking likely. Our best bet is to hope somebody releases a leaked test rom and then the cooking can start
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And from most accounts - HTC isn't going to update their pre-existing hardware to WM6. There have been a few rumors stating they will but from most of the official responces from HTC it's not looking likely. Our best bet is to hope somebody releases a leaked test rom and then the cooking can start
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Heh, that's exactly what I've been hoping for....just hopefully someone gets their hands on one...
seems we can port wm6 to startrek. we have several nk.exe files of wm6 for omap 850, other drivers are compatible from wm5. you only need patched spl with disabled nbh check, as hermes does. anyhow having no startrek i won't do it, i just give you a hint
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seems we can port wm6 to startrek. we have several nk.exe files of wm6 for omap 850, other drivers are compatible from wm5. you only need patched spl with disabled nbh check, as hermes does. anyhow having no startrek i won't do it, i just give you a hint
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why not try the build of it... hint hint- i will try it on mine.
i'd be happy to try it out and give feedback to improve it!
I will be more than willing to try it on my cingular 3125.
Wm6
scott_donald said:
why not try the build of it... hint hint- i will try it on mine.
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I can build image for you.. but you need to ask DES to patch your SPL to allow unsigned code
I would be glad to give it a test as well.
sp3dev said:
I can build image for you.. but you need to ask DES to patch your SPL to allow unsigned code
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you what???? sorry bit clueless here...
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I can build image for you.. but you need to ask DES to patch your SPL to allow unsigned code
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I wonder if Des, Olipro or Pof have a StrTrk - they'd be the most likely to be able to do such a thing I think
Is there even any smartphones that have WM6 available or running yet?
Yup, there's a WM6 ROM floating about for the Dash / S620 so I hear...
Hm...so if we can get our hands on one of their ROMs, could it theoretically be adapted to the StrTrk?
Maybe but I've yet to see any cooked roms for the StrTrk (I'm hoping it's close enough to the TyTN that it's tools can be modified).
I guess I see two real problems with that. First, as I said, no real kitchen to cook in (unless I'm missing something which is quite possible)
and two, it is MUCH easier to cook a rom intended for your device then to port it from one device to another, while I suspect it would be do-able (assuming that we get the proper driver support - not nesc the same as WM5) it won't be easy to port from one device to another - remember there's some specialized hardware on the StrTrk - out screen etc (while WM6 is supposed to support external displays, I think it will require a driver).
By all means, please if you have the brains and ability, cook away, I look forward to your rom I certainly am no where near the smartest guy in these forums and am sure there are a number of people here more the capable of doing so. If somebody sent Pof, Des, Dutty and Olipro and some others a StrTrk we'd see some good tools in here in no time
That said, I'm still hoping a mystery rapidshare link appears
I hear ya...unfortunately, I don't know anymore than you do
There will be a high probability that WM 6.0 for HTC StrTrk is let out, in fact same the same WM 5.0 with AKU 3.0 and the changed interface.
If has appeared WM 5.0 AKU 3.0 from Cingular that is hope!
Hi to all! I've moto mpx200. Where i can find WM6 for it?
Dear cookers and chefs, I would like to order a simple thing, if possible, so that dinner would be perfect . Can you guys re-introduce the WPA2 authentication protocol into the wifi network config?? A lot of people over here miss that. It's a default and oficial from Wm6 and latests Wm5 akus.
P.S. - Can anyone explain me why it was removed from the latest sets of cooked roms??
You must really like to read you name here
If it's so simple, why don´t you do it?
And how many times do you want to post the same thing?
I don´t want to copy varanusvincent, but do you really think that now someone will cook that? To you? Please, grow up and respect the people that really work.
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You just don't get it, do you?? I'm not blaming anyone. I'm just trying to understand why WPA2 was left out when is a feature by default from WM6. This was a feature in previous roms, is working fine on many cooked roms as in official rom (from other devices), and suddenly was taken out. I think at least I can ask why? Or did you bought xda-developers and now is forbidden to make any questions??
I guess I now have to know every single person that cooked the rom... and apart that correlated immediately that if someone cocked the rom with another one, for ex. Cloudyfa, then WPA2 is left out...
Don't get me wrong, but you have a fixation with me. I advise you to focus all your attention to aid the Wm6 Prophet community...
You post this things on VISTA EDITION
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Max, I'm very disappointed with you. The WPA2 protocol is not supported in this rom unlike WM6 default. Everything was just perfect, but when I was to configure wifi I notice that WPA2 was not there...
In the HTC Album, I cannot exit with the Ok button and it doesn't appear the cross to exit. Also when clicking over a picture it doesn't appear the menu. This version must be a bad one...
netonumu said:
If it's so simple, why don´t you do it?
And how many times do you want to post the same thing?
I don´t want to copy varanusvincent, but do you really think that now someone will cook that? To you? Please, grow up and respect the people that really work.
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And I'm sure you missed some posts....
@onesolo:
It seems that the WPA2 defect is a problem of the latest WM6 release. As this ROM are build on that one. Perhaps you better adress your request to Microsoft?
Anyway, as said, it looks like no one can help and the solution is simple, so: contribute!
Every one is saying that I'm being rude, that I don't contribute and help, but till now almost everyone couldn't explain to me why WPA2 is out.
If in previous cooked roms that I tried till now, from 4.0.0.3a to the Mysterious 1.0 (all from PDAViet), I never had any problem with WPA2, it's normal that if that thing is suddenly not there to ask what happen to it.
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Every one is saying that I'm being rude, that I don't contribute and help, but till now almost everyone couldn't explain to me why WPA2 is out.
If in previous cooked roms that I tried till now, from 4.0.0.3a to the Mysterious 1.0 (all from PDAViet), I never had any problem with WPA2, it's normal that if that thing is suddenly not there to ask what happen to it.
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That's bc of the drivers we use in most recent ROMs come from WM5 (Offical ROM for Prophet), and the older ROMs use drivers from Wizard WM6.
But i think i can fix it, maybe it'll be avaiable in my next version.
netonumu said:
If it's so simple, why don´t you do it?
And how many times do you want to post the same thing?
I don´t want to copy varanusvincent, but do you really think that now someone will cook that? To you? Please, grow up and respect the people that really work.
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You just don't get it, do you?? I'm not blaming anyone. I'm just trying to understand why WPA2 was left out when is a feature by default from WM6. This was a feature in previous roms, is working fine on many cooked roms as in official rom (from other devices), and suddenly was taken out. I think at least I can ask why? Or did you bought xda-developers and now is forbidden to make any questions??
I guess I now have to know every single person that cooked the rom... and apart that correlated immediately that if someone cocked the rom with another one, for ex. Cloudyfa, then WPA2 is left out...
Don't get me wrong, but you have a fixation with me. I advise you to focus all your attention to aid the Wm6 Prophet community...
You post this things on VISTA EDITION
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Max, I'm very disappointed with you. The WPA2 protocol is not supported in this rom unlike WM6 default. Everything was just perfect, but when I was to configure wifi I notice that WPA2 was not there...
In the HTC Album, I cannot exit with the Ok button and it doesn't appear the cross to exit. Also when clicking over a picture it doesn't appear the menu. This version must be a bad one...
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I got some problem !!!
snaketnn said:
I got some problem !!!
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We all have, from time to time...... You have my sympathy.
Cloudyfa said:
That's bc of the drivers we use in most recent ROMs come from WM5 (Offical ROM for Prophet), and the older ROMs use drivers from Wizard WM6.
But i think i can fix it, maybe it'll be avaiable in my next version.
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Thkx for the feedback and the reason why WPA2 was not included. There's always a reason...
I'm here to test it if you release a rom with it!! Keep on going Cloudyfa!!!
By the way, if my Mysterious 1.0 device was not running slow and with a battery drain (not in the beginning) I wouldn't be dragging the forum to this conversation, because I wouldn't need to change to a new rom.
Cloudyfa said:
That's bc of the drivers we use in most recent ROMs come from WM5 (Offical ROM for Prophet), and the older ROMs use drivers from Wizard WM6.
But i think i can fix it, maybe it'll be avaiable in my next version.
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It would be great if you can provide a patch for older ROMs because I'm using your ShadoW and don't want to change the ROM again!
This is also on my wish-list Would be great!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=1819237
.. it is there .. making that rom in English would help a lot of peeps. I am so thankful I am dutch
I don't know how to go about this, but since seth isnt goin to be making anymore roms the the Neon, I was wondering if someone could starting towards his direction. I would be the first to do this, but i haven't a clue where start. Sorry if this sounds dumb.
well first big thanx for you on taking on this task and its great appreciated im sure by the NEON community.im sure u already asked seth on how to start cooking and search this forum for some other NEON developers.ill help as much as i can.thanx
-wayne
Im learning to cook foor the Neon aswell Seth has given me soem tips and the kitchen he uses, although i don't know how we can better Seths current Rom its great
Could you show me the foundation of it? build on up?
Neon and Niki are very simulare ... i doesnt understand, why nobody try to found out, the different settings off both device, to create a OEM Pack?
An OEM pack would be great
I'm in the same boat myself. I've been reading the forums here for a while now and have a ****load of tools, but I don't know if I have the right tools to cook a ROM for the neon200.
I'm using Seth's Diamond v4 and it works very well, but I would like to cook a ROM that is stripped to the bone and build it back up over time.
If you have any hints or tips on how to cook for the neon please post them, and I'll try to post anything useful (or unsuccessful, until I brick my phone, lol)
Cheers.
starting from scratch?
I believe we should start by changing toms rom and black mary rom to be configured for the neon. it would be great to be able to have everyone benefit from they're work.
Excuse me...could you please direct me to the kitchen?
If someone has a kitchen, I'll start cooking today. I've cooked afew of my own roms, for private use, on my Kaiser. I've had my NEON 300 for about a month, and love it. If Seth has a kitchen do we know which? If someone's already obtained it from him, can you post it? I'll work on an OEM pack...this isn't really all that different from most of them floating around, it's not like most of the HTC apps haven't already been pooped out in oem fashion, ready to cook. This is how communities grow, with people willing to learn for the support and benefit of everyone.
I just cooked my first Neon200 ROM on the weekend using the Kaiser Kitchen with htcrt settings that NetrunnerAT posted:
[Neon]
Experimental=1
ModelId=NEON****
SignMaxChunkSize=64
RomSections=4, "0x200,SPL,262144,TRUE", "0x600,Splash,262144,FALSE", "0x301,Radio,17563648,TRUE", "0x400,OS,0,FALSE"
I took a vendor image and added some packages cooked it and flashed it and my phone still worked after it, lol. Not all the apps I added worked, but the process did.
I'm going to play with it some more until I get it right (my GFs new favorite saying is, "Are you playing with that f**king phone again!!!). I'd like to build an ultralite ROM with decent drivers that can be built on.
Netrunner posted in this thread that creating an OEM pack for the Neon shouldn't be too hard, but it seems that there aren't alot of knowledgeable people out there with Neons. The differences might be small but to a n00b (like me, lol) they're pretty major. I've read about as much as I can, (I saved my weekend FF session and it has 259 tabs - and on a side note it peaked @ 1,002,384K and while I know that IE would have drowned in it's own blood, 4MB per tab still seems excessive ...) Any Neon specific help and advice would be greatly appreciated.
Next I'm gonna try and take a stock WM6 ROM and port it to 6.1, we'll see what happens from there ...
Hey hey, well done. sounds good my girlfriend says the same thing haha
solution for that problem
I often hear it from my girl too... what I have done is bought her a htc dual now she's into xda too... a question though how can I know if I have a neon or a htc touch dual? from the back of the phone I have HTC dual but when I search into net NEON looks like a htc dual touch... a bit confused here
character said:
I often hear it from my girl too... what I have done is bought her a htc dual now she's into xda too... a question though how can I know if I have a neon or a htc touch dual? from the back of the phone I have HTC dual but when I search into net NEON looks like a htc dual touch... a bit confused here
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where are you from? If your in the US, most cases you have a neon. If it doesnt have it listed (on back of device), you probably have a niki. Check settings>device information>identity
mjthrupp said:
I just cooked my first Neon200 ROM on the weekend using the Kaiser Kitchen with htcrt settings that NetrunnerAT posted:
[Neon]
Experimental=1
ModelId=NEON****
SignMaxChunkSize=64
RomSections=4, "0x200,SPL,262144,TRUE", "0x600,Splash,262144,FALSE", "0x301,Radio,17563648,TRUE", "0x400,OS,0,FALSE"
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I've got the Niki Kitchen, where do I change the settings so I can make the rom for a Neon200 instead of for the Niki?
I have no real idea about this stuff yet, but would like to learn and be involved...
Why is it that you can't take an existing Niki ROM and simply change a couple of settings and cook an Neon ROM?
maximus007 said:
I have no real idea about this stuff yet, but would like to learn and be involved...
Why is it that you can't take an existing Niki ROM and simply change a couple of settings and cook an Neon ROM?
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Im with you, would love to learn But, i think you need an OEM pack, change the radio...from what i know. I'm sure there is a lot more. NetrunnerAT knows how. Not giving up names lol
Manilla Rom
If any one has the kitchen, and is willing to throw out a few pointers, I would be more than happy to get started on a Manilla ROM. Does anyone have any idea where to get one? I PM'd Seth, but have not gotten a reply yet. Any ideas?
Android port any chance any new info
might want to sticky an android topic, new fresh details as of 28th jan 2010
I´m a fully ignorant in programming but I have an idea on my mind, if the Nexus One have the same Snapdragon platform that Toshiba TG01, could be possible a port of Android 2.1 to the Toshiba TG01 and HTC HD2 also with Snapdragon?
I don´t know if it´s possible or not, but to me would be a dream have the power of Toshiba with Android ... and if it would have Sense UI would be perfect xDD
I saw someone said Android on TG01, don't know if this is true or not.
gsmarena.com/toshiba_tg01-reviews-2662.php
cadmann said:
I saw someone said Android on TG01, don't know if this is true or not.
gsmarena.com/toshiba_tg01-reviews-2662.php
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Oh, can't believe it
Yeah i think the dood who posted that over at gsmarena was just lying.
Out of my own interest I've tried a few builds of Android on the TG01 but havn't got anything to boot up fully yet - i havn't played with startup.txt files or anything yet - i might have another dabble at the weekend if i get abit of time.
I'm not a dev and have minimal knowledge of Linux so theres not too much i can do, but if we could at least get a build to boot and show the Home screen i think would be a great start to springboard development.
There's a lot of builds of Android for HTC devices flying around, it couldnt hurt to try them and see what happens - You cannot harm your device in any way doing this as it isn't flashed to ROM just copy the relevent files to the root of your SD card and then run HARET.EXE application.
I've noticed the boot text is really tiny so it's difficult to read any error messages and such.
If anyone has a go at testing any builds it might be worth posting here with the build and results of any testing.
Also this may well be just a complete waste of time - who knows!
Cheers
Paul
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You cannot harm your device in any way doing this as it isn't flashed to ROM
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If I recall well some discussions in Android for Diamond threads, if you try to tweak the settings in Haret and give it bad values you can hurt your device or the memory card... So be carefull...
To people not confident in what they are doing : don't do it ! You have been warned
Howell said:
If I recall well some discussions in Android for Diamond threads, if you try to tweak the settings in Haret and give it bad values you can hurt your device or the memory card... So be carefull...
To people not confident in what they are doing : don't do it ! You have been warned
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Thanks Howell, im sure people here would be more than aware of any possible risks as always with this sort of stuff but from my understanding this should be safe - the HARET application is simply a bootloader for the Linux kernel - it absolutely cannot write to your phone's system files - it can however write files to your SD but cannot damage it in any way - the generated files can simply be deleted.
There's actually no settings to tweak in HARET either - it simply looks for a startup.txt file, if theres none present you have the option to browse for one - theres nothing else to tweak. The startup.txt file contains the settings that Haret reads - if this isn't correct it simply crashes the device which then requires a soft reset if in fact it doesn't reboot itself.
If someone who actually knows from experience and not 'recalling from another thread' wants to verify any Harm that can be caused with HARET please let us know!
Thanks
Paul
They have port android on HD1. Like it's in WVGA, maybe some crazy guys want to try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621498&highlight=android+HD
Supports Blackstone, Diamond, Diamond 500, Fuze, Raphael, Raphael 800, Rhodium, Tilt 2 & Topaz
if programmers started making a port i would consider getting a tg01 i love the white color, currently i have a htc fuze and am always running android onit.
who are the main android developers on forum?
Just Trying
Just Trying The Hatet way on my phone also trying the htc .cab way
dam they both just fail and i tried all startup.txt files for all phones!!!
It ain't that easy. You need the configure the starup.txt you need to find the Thosiba tg01 id etc etc...
You need a kernell who works with the toshiba hardware...
You need a lot, but it is posible.
i am currently trawling the intraweb looking for a zimage kernal to run my tg01 and trying to do the startup file myself.
slow going...
If u get android working on tg01 please upload the file and give us a link please
ditto, you'd be a legend if you could get it going!!
i think android will be so cool on this device come on android geeks where are you we need your skills show us what you can do do us proud and bring android to tg01 i dare you if you can hell i will even donate let the world know we want android on toshiba tg01 let the android games begin.......... woops sorry if i got abit carried away.
I agree and i would donate to if we could get android on tg01!!!!
CUMON!!!
android 2 be or not 2 be that is the question
did anyone try latest xandroid build
LeTo08 said:
They have port android on HD1. Like it's in WVGA, maybe some crazy guys want to try
Supports Blackstone, Diamond, Diamond 500, Fuze, Raphael, Raphael 800, Rhodium, Tilt 2 & Topaz
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I had already tried. I had previously a HTC HD and i put the same memory card in my new TG01. I tried to run Haret.exe, but the phone stuck and need to remove the battery to turn on again.
Tg01 android
CEDARSMITH IN tg01 forum is decrypting TG01 AT MINUTE IF ANYONE POST MESSAGES HIM HE MAY BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU DEVICE IDS AND STUFF