Has anyone noticed in 6.5 using Windows default that if you have automatic retrieval of email messages set, and you return to the home screen,after awhile the Home screen will display the title "Messaging" at the top and the close X button will appear. Also the soft key changes. I have used about 4-5 different ROM's from different cooks and it seems to be appearing in all of them. Any solutions or suggestions?
U can just ignore it. If i'm not mistaken, it happens only if pushmail is enabled.
I get it too, but don't have push mail going. I have retrieve every 30 min. I don't think much of it. Just close it. It hasn't caused me any issues yet.
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I get it too, but don't have push mail going. I have retrieve every 30 min. I don't think much of it. Just close it. It hasn't caused me any issues yet.
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It's just a nuisance. But definitely some kind of small bug.
I find this bug to be completely annoying. This morning on my way to work, in the middle of getting GPS directions, "Messaging" pops up as an empty window. I've been looking for a way to fix this, but so far, I've come up empty.
Hi guys, I think it's an issue with tmail, at some point in 6.5 development I noticed that when tmail.exe -noui is executed it doesn't display a dialog or draw the screen, but it still draws the menubars/titlebar - seems in 6.1 when tmail.exe -noui is executed it has the same behavior but the app does not come to foreground (gets placed behind all other apps)
Any app that launches tmail.exe -noui will cause this behavior, many htc apps do this periodically.
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Hi guys, I think it's an issue with tmail, at some point in 6.5 development I noticed that when tmail.exe -noui is executed it doesn't display a dialog or draw the screen, but it still draws the menubars/titlebar - seems in 6.1 when tmail.exe -noui is executed it has the same behavior but the app does not come to foreground (gets placed behind all other apps)
Any app that launches tmail.exe -noui will cause this behavior, many htc apps do this periodically.
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I can't imagine it'd be possible to use a tmail.exe from a 6.1 ROM, as changes/updates/improvements? have been made to it, right?
Or is the answer to find a version of 6.5 where it didn't do this, and replace the current version with that? Does the 21210 side of the tree have this issue, I wonder?
I first noticed it way back in 21169 or so, so i'm pretty sure any build after that has the issue.
Haven't tried anything to fix it, i suspect it's an issue with shell32 not properly hiding the hidden window..
tmail.exe from 6.5 is hugely different from 6.1, so you'd be losing quite a bit by replacing it (if it worked)
I noticed that this does not occur with the 21613 build as in Karmbab's kitchen
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Hi guys
I've been facing since I bought my HTC Athena irregular freeze everyday.
I upgraded the Device to WM6 the next day I received it, it went very soomth with my applications installed.
However, the freeze appear very randomly, it could be while launching a new program, or playing backgammon, sometimes after device wake up, also once when received an SMS.
A very weird behavior also, is that sometimes I need to soft-reset 3/4 times in a row to get passed the HTC and the Windows Mobile splash screen.
For info, the soft-reset is not necessarly done after a freeze ....
I decided to start this new topic in order to see if other people are facing same symptoms on their Athena, and to share our experience together.
Cheers
Hope you run Oli's SPL Unlocker/patcher...
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Hi guys
I've been facing since I bought my HTC Athena irregular freeze everyday.
I upgraded the Device to WM6 the next day I received it, it went very soomth with my applications installed.
However, the freeze appear very randomly, it could be while launching a new program, or playing backgammon, sometimes after device wake up, also once when received an SMS.
A very weird behavior also, is that sometimes I need to soft-reset 3/4 times in a row to get passed the HTC and the Windows Mobile splash screen.
For info, the soft-reset is not necessarly done after a freeze ....
I decided to start this new topic in order to see if other people are facing same symptoms on their Athena, and to share our experience together.
Cheers
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Sorry no such problems here, but did you run Olipro's SPL patcher/Unlocker before flashing thee ROM? I know tupsindin released a few WM6 ROMs a while ago that could be flashed without CID unlocking your X7500, but Olipro's Unlocker will make your device unbrickable.
If you have already done this, try flashing the new WM6 Dopod U1000 ROM seems very stable to me with no issues so far and slightly snappier than the other WM6 ROMs.
Thks mackaby for your reply
I did unlock it via the UK website I found on XDA forum, sorry but can't remember the name (soemthing IMEI), so I did that then flashed with the WM6 ROM ver 2.20.405.1
Im doing some more testing
what is really annoying is that I need to do 4/5 soft reset very ofently in order to pass by the HTC/Windows Mobile splash screen
I just bought my HTC Advantage X7500 with WM6 already installed and I have lock up issues if I have auto shutoff enabled it will not start backup after a auto shut off I keep using the reset to get it back up. When it is up I just disabled the auto shut off and now have no problems.
Im not having same pb as you, but I saw on one thread on XDA forums that people having that problem fixed it by assigning a the turn on/off device to a hardware button. and apparently it fixed their problem.
Try that and it must fix it for you
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Hi guys
I've been facing since I bought my HTC Athena irregular freeze everyday.
I upgraded the Device to WM6 the next day I received it, it went very soomth with my applications installed.
However, the freeze appear very randomly, it could be while launching a new program, or playing backgammon, sometimes after device wake up, also once when received an SMS.
A very weird behavior also, is that sometimes I need to soft-reset 3/4 times in a row to get passed the HTC and the Windows Mobile splash screen.
For info, the soft-reset is not necessarly done after a freeze ....
I decided to start this new topic in order to see if other people are facing same symptoms on their Athena, and to share our experience together.
Cheers
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Hi,
I have encountered in the past this problem, and I observed that it was happening after I installed HTC X-Button v1.5, and it was even worse after HTC X-Button v1.51.
Later on, a new version was published, and it works flawlessly since. The exact file is HTC X-Button v1.51 build 30229.
Hope you have same issue. Good luck,
Zohar
Thks zoharbl for you reply
I don't have HTC x-button
For now, I found an alternative with Running Pocket Hack Master at 663 Mhz, and I modified the sequence for startup processes using SKTools putting Pocket Hack Master as #1 in the order, Wisbar Advance 3 as #2, SPB Diary as the last one and Norton Antivirus just before the last one.
I noticed that SPB Diary is slowing down a bit my device, and specially after a reset, this is because I created custom tab adding plugins inside this tab such Phone Alarm, SPB Weather and Resco Explorer Plugin ...
I tried many config, and found out this one works the best for me, the device is resetting with less then 30 sec without any hanging anymore.
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and I observed that it was happening after I installed HTC X-Button v1.5, and it was even worse after HTC X-Button v1.51.
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Really interesting comment. I have original WM5 configured UK Ameo and have always experienced random crashes. After reading this, I looked again at my settings and found the X-button configured - I don't need it as I use the same functionality from Wisbar. Turned it off and it hasn't crashed since.
You learn something every day
BigDede said:
For now, I found an alternative with Running Pocket Hack Master at 663 Mhz, and I modified the sequence for startup processes using SKTools putting Pocket Hack Master as #1 in the order, Wisbar Advance 3 as #2, SPB Diary as the last one and Norton Antivirus just before the last one.
I noticed that SPB Diary is slowing down a bit my device, and specially after a reset, this is because I created custom tab adding plugins inside this tab such Phone Alarm, SPB Weather and Resco Explorer Plugin ...
I tried many config, and found out this one works the best for me, the device is resetting with less then 30 sec without any hanging anymore.
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Hi there BigDede
Don't know if this will help...
Even since before I have upgraded to WM6 I have had problems similar to yours. At the time I had WA3 and WAD installed as well as Spb Weather, Spb Diary and certain parts of Pocketplus. I did a trail and removed all software from Spb and Wisbar and everything worked perfectly. In the meantime I have now only added Spb Mobile Suite and use iLauncher on my today screen together with the plugin from Resco Explorer - no more problems!
It seems to me that some of the above software have compatibilty issues with the U1000/Athena/Ameo (whether wm2005 or wm6 makes a difference I don't know).
Cheers
Thks Superdawie for your reply, you are right, I was suspecting Wisbar, SPB Diary abd phoneAlarm to be the origin of my problems.
But as I said previously, I found a workaround to make the Athena runs ok by playing with the order of startup programs. It's been more then one week without any freeze
Mrsums said:
Really interesting comment. I have original WM5 configured UK Ameo and have always experienced random crashes. After reading this, I looked again at my settings and found the X-button configured - I don't need it as I use the same functionality from Wisbar. Turned it off and it hasn't crashed since.
You learn something every day
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Same for me, working well on WM6 since I turned X-Button 1.51 off.
In WM5 I had this problem all the time as WM5 totally sucks!
In WM6 I only experienced this problem when programs "collided" due to timing issues as you've found out. By changing the load order or timing of some applications (some programs have it built right in like SmallMenu....it's resolved all of my lock up issues, etc. Most of the problems can be resolved by playing around with the software you have loaded, as you found out. Not sure if it's because of a crappy OS or because of crappy coding by the developers of the software we're installing...maybe both.
I've been somewhat silent on the forums but look at them everyday for updates and whatnot. I'm not new to flashing roms and everything but I cannot figure out this problem.
When I upgraded to DCD's 3.1.1 and then 3.1.2 I've noticed without doing anything on the phone the phone application opens itself. I dealt with it for a little while but its becoming a little annoying.
Programs I have installed:
SPB Pocket Plus 4.02
S2U2 1.01
Oxios Memory
HTC Album
Touchflo
Touchflo Config
Regedit
Today clock(made by someone in xda forums)
several have observed - just reload the dialer; worked 4 me!
No it's not the dialer that has to be reloaded. It's SPB. Uninstall SPB and then see if your problems go away.
I've tried reinstalling SPB, doesn't fix anything. Seems to happen more often after I've sent a text message? Also before I installed any programs it ran the phone app by itself, which makes me think its something to do with the rom more than my apps.
I'm having this same problem and I agree that it is annoying. I recently updated to dcd 3.1.2 from 3.0.1 with Sprint, and installed the same software as before. The only thing that has really changed is the ROM version.
Is there a cab somewhere to replace/reinstall the dialer?
I've tried reinstalling SPB, doesn't fix anything. Seems to happen more often after I've sent a text message? Also before I installed any programs it ran the phone app by itself, which makes me think its something to do with the rom more than my apps.
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It's a problem with SPB as I said. Reinstalling SPB will not fix the problem, you need to uninstall it and keep it uninstalled. Test to see if the problem is fixed WITHOUT SPB. It's not a problem with the rom.
Nope - it's the dialer. I'll see if I can find the link; it was posted in the main 3.1.2 thread soemwhere.
Nope - it's the dialer. I'll see if I can find the link; it was posted in the main 3.1.2 thread soemwhere.
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Alright well if you don't want to listen to me then that's your choice, but I can tell you right now the problem is NOT the dialer and is SPB. Installing a different dialer on top of the one you have now is a temporary fix and will most likely alter your dialer functions. I'm done arguing about it though so gl.
This was the post I found:
"Just install a new dialer (there are lots of them around in cab form) and that will solve both of your problems (EPST and the dialer popping up). I used "Wizard+reTouched_Dialer2". Google it."
The link I used is http://rapidshare.com/files/73141135/reTOUCHed_Dialer2.cab
Fixed it for me anyway
gcincotta - ur right as usual - it did alter my dialing properties - I lost "plus 1" dialing capability.
This was the post I found:
"Just install a new dialer (there are lots of them around in cab form) and that will solve both of your problems (EPST and the dialer popping up). I used "Wizard+reTouched_Dialer2". Google it."
The link I used is http://rapidshare.com/files/73141135...ed_Dialer2.cab
Fixed it for me anyway
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Ok well you're not listening to me. YES THIS WILL "FIX" YOUR DIALER POPUP PROBLEM. That dialer breaks the smart functions of the dialer. The actual problem lies with SPB and has NOTHING to do with the dialer. If you uninstall SPB, which is the ACTUAL fix, then your dialer popup will be fixed and you won't have a broken dialer. To each his own though I guess.
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gcincotta - ur right as usual - it did alter my dialing properties - I lost "plus 1" dialing capability.
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I know that this is off topic, but can I ask you something? When you say "lost plus 1 dialing" are you saying that you could dial an international number by dialing plus instead of 011? I have wanted this functionality ever since I went from GSM to CDMA. Please tell if its true or if you meant something else.
There's much to much back and forth nonsense on this forum lately, so I'm not going to add to it. But I will tell you, that with pocket plus 4.02 and this dialer installed:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=291902&postcount=50
the problem goes away without affecting smart dialing or +1 dialing-FOR ME. So, as in the other cases, I'd say its fine to express an opinion about how YOUR phone works with your settings and programs, no one can state absolutes, since everyone has different setups.
the problem goes away without affecting smart dialing or +1 dialing-FOR ME. So, as in the other cases, I'd say its fine to express an opinion about how YOUR phone works with your settings and programs, no one can state absolutes, since everyone has different setups.
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Yes, this dialer seems to work without breaking the dialer functions.
I wasn't telling him what to do. I wasn't even telling him that by installing another dialer it wouldn't fix the problem. I was stating that the problem itself is not the dialer, and is SPB. That is not an opinion. What people do to their phones is their business.
Well...like i said before this happend BEFORE i installed any programs, which is why i dont think it is spb. BUT, since you think is it SPB, what can i do to fix the problem without changing dialers and without removing SPB. I've never had this problem before the 3.x.x series roms and i would like to keep SPB because of the functionality. Thanks
I don't agree either that it is SPB, because its only shown up on this build, and I have run other builds without this problem. Wouldn't give up SPB. but know of no other way to fix the problem without loading a different dialer.
I don't agree either that it is SPB, because its only shown up on this build, and I have run other builds without this problem. Wouldn't give up SPB. but know of no other way to fix the problem without loading a different dialer.
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Ok well if you don't agree that it's SPB that's fine. We can agree to disagree.
I will however say that it's a fact that it's not a problem with the dialer. As I've said before, I've been part of the rigorous testing of 3.0.6 (test build that was never released), 3.1.0 (test build that was never released), 3.1.1, and 3.1.2, all before they are released on here. I've flashed 3.1.2 close to 40 times now both through testing and after release, on two different devices (Verizon xv6800 and Sprint Mogul) and I've never seen this problem arise on a clean rom build (see jpeg attached to see included items in BuildOS for clean build).
I have had this issue as well and I do not use any SPB software. It seems to happen after I send sms messages.
have to concur. I noticed this too. Now I upgraded directly from 2.12 and I do not run and SPB apps.
In my instance I also get PIE and other apps opening. Messaging could be the culprit, seems like I have seen this happen before.
I run on Today
Wisbar
iLauncher
PocketBreeze
PhoneWeaver
Other Apps
Pocket CM and various non active apps.
I am going to try and forcibly minimize messenger via wisbar and see what happens
The only answer then is that one of SPB's dependencies matches something that you people without any SPB software installed have on your devices.
Hi all,
I just unlocked and installed a customized rom for the first time.
I decided to go with DCD's 4.1.2 rom.
It's working great, I love its minimalism, for the first time my phone is running extremely smooth and fast.
I am having a few minor issues though:
1) Whenever I receive some text messages and then close them, its not marking them as read correctly so the home screen still says there are some unread text messages even if i already read them. I am using threaded txt messages.
2) Im not sure where the "active windows" thing went, so now i can't figure out how to close running applications other than going to the task manager and killing them all from there. Is there an app that i could install for that or something?
3) The keyboard seems to be randomly repeating characters sometimes, for example I type "b" and its writing "bbb" and some keys are not responding, for example i press "y" and it doesnt do anything and i have to go back and retype it.
Thanks a lot in advance for your help.
1. I believe is a MS bug try searching the forums I think there maybe a workaround.
2. Task manage in the programs menu.
3. I just loaded DCD 4.1.2 tonight and the keyboard appears to work ok?
I am flashing to a one of Ryan's ROMs to see if 6.5 works for me.
Most of your issues are discussed in the original 4.1.2 thread.
The task manager is the only way to kill programs without installing another program to do it.
I use "quickmenu" for closing apps, as well as hibernation an ram clearing. For your sms problems, search out "losers sms fix" clears it right up. As for the keyboard input, thats an oddity. I've been using dcd's stuff for some time. Possibly try reflashing or a hard reset.. Get yourself a PIMbackup prog to assist in transferring your contacts an such
i also had keyboard repeat problems with 4.1.2
it was also my first rom
i moved on to ryanmogul lite rom and its really great
more free memory than dcd's, the taskbar button is back, runs smoother overall imo
less work modifying the registry as ryan has already included many of the common hacks as well
Just got an HD2, and after looking for a good task manager found this awesome app TaskFacade 4. Unfortunately the dev appears to have stopped development for it, and the HD2 is just too fast for the app. I was bored, so I decompiled it (it's .net so that's easy) and made some minor fixes.
Anyway, here's what I fixed:
4.02 fixed by aussiebum (thanks aussiebum! ):
1. Fixed names of shortcuts.
2. Changed default destination directory to install on a storage card when selected.
4.02 changelist:
1. Fixed a memory leak that occurred when an app was started and closed outside of Task Facade.
2. Cleaned up Layout config page.
3. Cleaned up config file loading to minimize potential errors due to old and incompatible config files.
4.01 changelist:
1. Increased maximum number of frames for zoom-unzoom animation.
2. Added an optional sleep between frames to smooth out animation and reduce amount of resources used by the app.
3. Fixed a minor race condition which sometimes caused an updated icon to flash through just reactivated app.
Attaching latest version. Works perfectly on my HD2. Check it out.
Attaching screenshots.
YouTube video demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFZHZb5cX9A
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... Thanks!
Possible to get some screens.
I usually feel that task managers drain the battery a bit. How about this one?
Added screenshots. I just got this phone, so it's hard for me to judge its impact on the battery life. I will do some experiments.
Excellent try!!!
I used to use TaskFacade on my HD, but I always got the problem of gwes.exe growing larger and larger when usin TF, so I had to unistall it.
Can you manage to correct this problem?
Mr. spacepants, why don't you fix even "klaxon" , as the source is free, because gives problems with HD2.. to dismiss/snooze an alarm needs to unlock the phone first
have original taskfacade 4 on my hd2 it works fine except for the reasons you gave for making the new one.
tried it last night and it came up with something like the settings wouldnt load. i sot reset hoping thats all it needed but it still didnt work.
then my phone started having the led blink non stop.
so i uninstalled and put the original back on.
soft reset many times and tried tweaks to get the light off and eventually it stopped.
overall the program didnt work and no idea if led was unrelated
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Excellent try!!!
I used to use TaskFacade on my HD, but I always got the problem of gwes.exe growing larger and larger when usin TF, so I had to unistall it.
Can you manage to correct this problem?
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spacepants,
Your modification causes me the same problem.
Is it possible to make TaskFacade run as a service?
jolas said:
Excellent try!!!
I used to use TaskFacade on my HD, but I always got the problem of gwes.exe growing larger and larger when usin TF, so I had to unistall it.
Can you manage to correct this problem?
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I just tried it today. After about 20 hours of running, with many task switches gwes.exe grew from 4.73 MB to 4.85 MB. And I am not sure if this was because of the TaskFacade - I didn't see any connection between its growth and app usage.
I am pretty sure I didn't fix this. Did you use version 4 when you saw this behavior? I guess it could also be thanks to a fix made in WinMo 6.5.
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Your modification causes me the same problem.
Is it possible to make TaskFacade run as a service?
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Huh, strange. I am not seeing this. Do you have any repro steps? Also what are you running it on - which WM version?
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have original taskfacade 4 on my hd2 it works fine except for the reasons you gave for making the new one.
tried it last night and it came up with something like the settings wouldnt load. i sot reset hoping thats all it needed but it still didnt work.
then my phone started having the led blink non stop.
so i uninstalled and put the original back on.
soft reset many times and tried tweaks to get the light off and eventually it stopped.
overall the program didnt work and no idea if led was unrelated
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Crap, sorry for all the trouble. I don't see how the app could have made the LED blink - it has no code that would call that API. Are you sure it's related to TaskFacade?
I am fixing the dependence of the app on the config file. It sounds like the installer didn't work for you for some reason, since it should have replaced everything.
Thanks for giving it a shot.
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Huh, strange. I am not seeing this. Do you have any repro steps? Also what are you running it on - which WM version?
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Now, I'm on WM6.5.5 (23542 build), with sense 2.5.20121225.0.
Let's say that gwes.exe is consuming 38MB before I use TaskFacade.
Right after I run TF, it raises to about 42,7MB and it keeps raising when I use new programs. There is a point above that, I loose HTC menus and standard WM menus are displaying instead.
After a few time gwes.exe stabilizes it size to about 44-45MB.
I don't know if there use some kind os issues when using TF in Touch HD, because it has the same effect with different ROMs I tested.
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Now, I'm on WM6.5.5 (23542 build), with sense 2.5.20121225.0.
Let's say that gwes.exe is consuming 38MB before I use TaskFacade.
Right after I run TF, it raises to about 42,7MB and it keeps raising when I use new programs. There is a point above that, I loose HTC menus and standard WM menus are displaying instead.
After a few time gwes.exe stabilizes it size to about 44-45MB.
I don't know if there use some kind os issues when using TF in Touch HD, because it has the same effect with different ROMs I tested.
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I think I may have found the problem, but without a way to repro the bug I can't be sure I fixed it. Looks like gwes.exe can in some cases cache images that are in use, and if you do not explicitly dispose of them, the cache keeps growing.
I am not sure why I am not seeing this on my HD2. I have a Kaiser and a Touch Pro 2 lying around here - I will see if I can get a repro with them tomorrow, and test the potential fix.
Weird that your gwes.exe at the beginning is already 38 MB - I haven't seen mine go above 6 MB. It sounds like some other program on your phone may already have a problem.
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Weird that your gwes.exe at the beginning is already 38 MB - I haven't seen mine go above 6 MB. It sounds like some other program on your phone may already have a problem.
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It depends on which app you use to determine it: sktools separates process and heap (so the measure is lower) while, for example, memmaid keeps it together (and thus the measure is higher).
Anyway, to give an example, with Manila and iPhoneToday my gwes at startup is 13.6 mb with sktools and 42mb with memmaid
btw, i too (blackstone) have problems with TF as jolas: after a short while i lose manila menus AND TF, also if in foreground, is not visible (it's there, since if i blind click somewhere i go to a different task, but i cannot see anything)
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I think I may have found the problem, but without a way to repro the bug I can't be sure I fixed it. Looks like gwes.exe can in some cases cache images that are in use, and if you do not explicitly dispose of them, the cache keeps growing.
I am not sure why I am not seeing this on my HD2. I have a Kaiser and a Touch Pro 2 lying around here - I will see if I can get a repro with them tomorrow, and test the potential fix.
Weird that your gwes.exe at the beginning is already 38 MB - I haven't seen mine go above 6 MB. It sounds like some other program on your phone may already have a problem.
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Sorry, I was not very clear. When I said that my gwes.exe is 38MB, I mean at a random point (after a few hours of use), not after a soft reset.
As for the gwes.exe and caching images, I believe that you are right...
I hope you to find a solution, to make possible for me to use TF.
Thanks for your effords!!!
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It depends on which app you use to determine it: sktools separates process and heap (so the measure is lower) while, for example, memmaid keeps it together (and thus the measure is higher).
Anyway, to give an example, with Manila and iPhoneToday my gwes at startup is 13.6 mb with sktools and 42mb with memmaid
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You are right! For my measure I use memmaid, after a soft reset gwes.exe is about 21MB...
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btw, i too (blackstone) have problems with TF as jolas: after a short while i lose manila menus AND TF, also if in foreground, is not visible (it's there, since if i blind click somewhere i go to a different task, but i cannot see anything)
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Yes, this is exactly the problem I have, too.
Are there other HD users who face the same problem with TF, or we are the only 'lucky'?
yeah i have no idea how it would have done anything to the led but it definetly happened right after installing ?
il give the next cab a shot though and see if it installs properly
jolas said:
You are right! For my measure I use memmaid, after a soft reset gwes.exe is about 21MB...
Yes, this is exactly the problem I have, too.
Are there other HD users who face the same problem with TF, or we are the only 'lucky'?
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Strange, I still can't repro this. Tried it on a couple of Energy ROMs on my Touch Pro 2 (one based on 21898, the other on 23554) - nothing. At best I get a 50k growth in gwes.exe every time a program starts and closes. I am using Task Manager 3.1 for measurements BTW, but memmaid concurs.
OK, if this doesn't repro on my Kaiser I am going to write a quick test program and try running through the normal operations of the app several thousand times to see if that has any effect.
Could you confirm that the steps you are using to get into this state? Are they the following?
1. Start an app.
2. Minimize the app.
3. Open TaskFacade.
4. Switch to the app.
5. Close the app from TaskFacade.
6. Go to step 1.
Thanks again for trying this out, BTW.
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Strange, I still can't repro this. Tried it on a couple of Energy ROMs on my Touch Pro 2 (one based on 21898, the other on 23554) - nothing. At best I get a 50k growth in gwes.exe every time a program starts and closes. I am using Task Manager 3.1 for measurements BTW, but memmaid concurs.
OK, if this doesn't repro on my Kaiser I am going to write a quick test program and try running through the normal operations of the app several thousand times to see if that has any effect.
Could you confirm that the steps you are using to get into this state? Are they the following?
1. Start an app.
2. Minimize the app.
3. Open TaskFacade.
4. Switch to the app.
5. Close the app from TaskFacade.
6. Go to step 1.
Thanks again for trying this out, BTW.
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I want to thank you for keep searching about the problem I face.
The steps I usually do are:
1. Start an app.
2. Minimize the app.
3. Open TaskFacade (I have assign it to a hardware key via AEButton Plus)
4. Switch to the app.
5. Close the app.
6. Go to step 1.
I am grateful for your work!
If you want, I could try your test versions to resolve the problem I face.
Thank you!
What button are you assigning taskfacade to and what app are you using to do it? I tried aebuttons and it fails to map the volume up and down on the T-Mobile US version of HD2...not sure about other keys.
Is it just Titan or Is it just WP over all?
Is it OS-associated or Is it App-associated?
I am inclined to believe keyboard disappearing few times while writing is more associated to random apps and only in Titan.
I haven't found other device users talking about such experience but few apps e.g. WhatsApp - has it more frequent!
How I wish with all these fantastic facilities, the developers for so called big apps used more knowledge to make better apps! They make such rubbish apps even after having far more functionalities on offer from the OS.
drupad2drupad said:
Is it just Titan or Is it just WP over all?
Is it OS-associated or Is it App-associated?
I am inclined to believe keyboard disappearing few times while writing is more associated to random apps and only in Titan.
I haven't found other device users talking about such experience but few apps e.g. WhatsApp - has it more frequent!
How I wish with all these fantastic facilities, the developers for so called big apps used more knowledge to make better apps! They make such rubbish apps even after having far more functionalities on offer from the OS.
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I have omnia 7 too and sometimes keyboard disappears...
keidal said:
I have omnia 7 too and sometimes keyboard disappears...
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Does that suggest that it's OS related? Does it disappear when using only certain apps?
When I am emailing or using anything in ME tile - it never disappears. It often disappears while I type things within an app. It is very very rare when using messaging or IE.
It's a WP7 bug. It's due to the background agents. There are certain apps that do something in the background and make the keyboard disappear. Go to Settings > applications > background tasks and disable Background Agents on each application. Obviously if that app has to run in the background its functionality will be reduced but if you are having a lot of trouble with the keyboard disappearing this is the only fix for now.
This video shows a background task activating and the keyboard being hidden as a result:
I only have this issue(sometimes) when posting in forums. Aside from that,it works fine and doesn't disappear. ( such typing a text or browsing internet.....)
I have the same thing happen to me. I guess it's just a Titan bug.
The only two problems that really bugged me on my Titan were the keyboard disappearing and Espn goals not playing videos. They have both now started to work very well after my last update.
Kinda solution
Greetings,
I only had this problem like 2 times. And its most certainly because of the background apps running. I am a casual mobile user, and does not have many apps running at the same time. So am not experiencing this problem.
Possible solution = use single app at one time, and before using another app, quit it by using the back button on the phone.
I know it completely makes the multitasking ability a waste, but I don't use more than one app at a time, except for listening to music.
Try out this for a couple of days, and see if you still have the disappearing keyboard.
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Greetings,
I only had this problem like 2 times. And its most certainly because of the background apps running. I am a casual mobile user, and does not have many apps running at the same time. So am not experiencing this problem.
Possible solution = use single app at one time, and before using another app, quit it by using the back button on the phone.
I know it completely makes the multitasking ability a waste, but I don't use more than one app at a time, except for listening to music.
Try out this for a couple of days, and see if you still have the disappearing keyboard.
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I think I've even narrowed down your issue here!
It only happens when you have certain buggy apps that launch and un-launch your keyboards. Developers need to be more professional when making apps that use your internet.
example - I've tested it with Board express app as well as twitter and facebook apps. I think when you start writing something in these apps e.g. a forum post, a tweet or a reply to any message, it launches your keyboard. After a bit of inactivity it tries to un-launch it so that you could use the full screen estate. However that was meant to be a useful function by MS. So say you were writing a long post, then wanted to do something else while multi-tasking or something on your PC and the app stays there doing nothing, it stops using the keyboard. Less resources, less memory intense etc - the coool features stuff.
However, when these apps go in background, after a while they become dormant anyway. So if they run in background while you use for emailing, text or something involving your keyboard it keeps crazily unlaunching it! It doesn't understand that you don't want the keyboard for their app but for something else!
It doesn't happen that often thankfully! Only happened 3 times in nearly 2 months for me. But when that does happen, if you go to multitasking view and get rid of those apps that do this, you won't have the issue. Also a restart simply stops it for a long long time.
This is a WP bug where the background tasks are putting the keyboard into the foreground. Only way to stop it from happening is to disable all background agents from running in Settings.
I didn't have this happen with the HTC surround, but that was pr-mango. I din't have it happen with Dell Venue Pro, but that has a physical keyboard so maybe I didn't notice. Regardless, in my experience it's just Titan
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I didn't have this happen with the HTC surround, but that was pr-mango. I din't have it happen with Dell Venue Pro, but that has a physical keyboard so maybe I didn't notice. Regardless, in my experience it's just Titan
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Have a look here it's not just Titan, ms are looking into it.