Hi guys
I've been facing since I bought my HTC Athena irregular freeze everyday.
I upgraded the Device to WM6 the next day I received it, it went very soomth with my applications installed.
However, the freeze appear very randomly, it could be while launching a new program, or playing backgammon, sometimes after device wake up, also once when received an SMS.
A very weird behavior also, is that sometimes I need to soft-reset 3/4 times in a row to get passed the HTC and the Windows Mobile splash screen.
For info, the soft-reset is not necessarly done after a freeze ....
I decided to start this new topic in order to see if other people are facing same symptoms on their Athena, and to share our experience together.
Cheers
Hope you run Oli's SPL Unlocker/patcher...
BigDede said:
Hi guys
I've been facing since I bought my HTC Athena irregular freeze everyday.
I upgraded the Device to WM6 the next day I received it, it went very soomth with my applications installed.
However, the freeze appear very randomly, it could be while launching a new program, or playing backgammon, sometimes after device wake up, also once when received an SMS.
A very weird behavior also, is that sometimes I need to soft-reset 3/4 times in a row to get passed the HTC and the Windows Mobile splash screen.
For info, the soft-reset is not necessarly done after a freeze ....
I decided to start this new topic in order to see if other people are facing same symptoms on their Athena, and to share our experience together.
Cheers
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Sorry no such problems here, but did you run Olipro's SPL patcher/Unlocker before flashing thee ROM? I know tupsindin released a few WM6 ROMs a while ago that could be flashed without CID unlocking your X7500, but Olipro's Unlocker will make your device unbrickable.
If you have already done this, try flashing the new WM6 Dopod U1000 ROM seems very stable to me with no issues so far and slightly snappier than the other WM6 ROMs.
Thks mackaby for your reply
I did unlock it via the UK website I found on XDA forum, sorry but can't remember the name (soemthing IMEI), so I did that then flashed with the WM6 ROM ver 2.20.405.1
Im doing some more testing
what is really annoying is that I need to do 4/5 soft reset very ofently in order to pass by the HTC/Windows Mobile splash screen
I just bought my HTC Advantage X7500 with WM6 already installed and I have lock up issues if I have auto shutoff enabled it will not start backup after a auto shut off I keep using the reset to get it back up. When it is up I just disabled the auto shut off and now have no problems.
Im not having same pb as you, but I saw on one thread on XDA forums that people having that problem fixed it by assigning a the turn on/off device to a hardware button. and apparently it fixed their problem.
Try that and it must fix it for you
BigDede said:
Hi guys
I've been facing since I bought my HTC Athena irregular freeze everyday.
I upgraded the Device to WM6 the next day I received it, it went very soomth with my applications installed.
However, the freeze appear very randomly, it could be while launching a new program, or playing backgammon, sometimes after device wake up, also once when received an SMS.
A very weird behavior also, is that sometimes I need to soft-reset 3/4 times in a row to get passed the HTC and the Windows Mobile splash screen.
For info, the soft-reset is not necessarly done after a freeze ....
I decided to start this new topic in order to see if other people are facing same symptoms on their Athena, and to share our experience together.
Cheers
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Hi,
I have encountered in the past this problem, and I observed that it was happening after I installed HTC X-Button v1.5, and it was even worse after HTC X-Button v1.51.
Later on, a new version was published, and it works flawlessly since. The exact file is HTC X-Button v1.51 build 30229.
Hope you have same issue. Good luck,
Zohar
Thks zoharbl for you reply
I don't have HTC x-button
For now, I found an alternative with Running Pocket Hack Master at 663 Mhz, and I modified the sequence for startup processes using SKTools putting Pocket Hack Master as #1 in the order, Wisbar Advance 3 as #2, SPB Diary as the last one and Norton Antivirus just before the last one.
I noticed that SPB Diary is slowing down a bit my device, and specially after a reset, this is because I created custom tab adding plugins inside this tab such Phone Alarm, SPB Weather and Resco Explorer Plugin ...
I tried many config, and found out this one works the best for me, the device is resetting with less then 30 sec without any hanging anymore.
zoharbl said:
and I observed that it was happening after I installed HTC X-Button v1.5, and it was even worse after HTC X-Button v1.51.
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Really interesting comment. I have original WM5 configured UK Ameo and have always experienced random crashes. After reading this, I looked again at my settings and found the X-button configured - I don't need it as I use the same functionality from Wisbar. Turned it off and it hasn't crashed since.
You learn something every day
BigDede said:
For now, I found an alternative with Running Pocket Hack Master at 663 Mhz, and I modified the sequence for startup processes using SKTools putting Pocket Hack Master as #1 in the order, Wisbar Advance 3 as #2, SPB Diary as the last one and Norton Antivirus just before the last one.
I noticed that SPB Diary is slowing down a bit my device, and specially after a reset, this is because I created custom tab adding plugins inside this tab such Phone Alarm, SPB Weather and Resco Explorer Plugin ...
I tried many config, and found out this one works the best for me, the device is resetting with less then 30 sec without any hanging anymore.
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Hi there BigDede
Don't know if this will help...
Even since before I have upgraded to WM6 I have had problems similar to yours. At the time I had WA3 and WAD installed as well as Spb Weather, Spb Diary and certain parts of Pocketplus. I did a trail and removed all software from Spb and Wisbar and everything worked perfectly. In the meantime I have now only added Spb Mobile Suite and use iLauncher on my today screen together with the plugin from Resco Explorer - no more problems!
It seems to me that some of the above software have compatibilty issues with the U1000/Athena/Ameo (whether wm2005 or wm6 makes a difference I don't know).
Cheers
Thks Superdawie for your reply, you are right, I was suspecting Wisbar, SPB Diary abd phoneAlarm to be the origin of my problems.
But as I said previously, I found a workaround to make the Athena runs ok by playing with the order of startup programs. It's been more then one week without any freeze
Mrsums said:
Really interesting comment. I have original WM5 configured UK Ameo and have always experienced random crashes. After reading this, I looked again at my settings and found the X-button configured - I don't need it as I use the same functionality from Wisbar. Turned it off and it hasn't crashed since.
You learn something every day
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Same for me, working well on WM6 since I turned X-Button 1.51 off.
In WM5 I had this problem all the time as WM5 totally sucks!
In WM6 I only experienced this problem when programs "collided" due to timing issues as you've found out. By changing the load order or timing of some applications (some programs have it built right in like SmallMenu....it's resolved all of my lock up issues, etc. Most of the problems can be resolved by playing around with the software you have loaded, as you found out. Not sure if it's because of a crappy OS or because of crappy coding by the developers of the software we're installing...maybe both.
Related
I never got this one till I installed Prophet touch VIII.
I'm guessing it's one of the today plugins/startup folder files that tries to read or write in some corrupted file.
Last time I got it I only got 2 today plugins: HTC home and battery status.
I found a way to reboot without hard reset so I'm going to explore the culprit
I've read in another forum spb pocket plus activates safe mode which loads windows without today plugins or services. It boots on boot screen freeze...
Next step, unplug the plugins 1 by one until it boots...
So for now I'll just wait for the next boot screen freeze
I'll keep you posted
Here you have the right application for your needs. SAFEMODE ver.2.1
THis will let you solve freezing problems. I advance you that most problems come from HTC HOME and visual changes made with 3rd party programs...and a classic: installing default keyboards with 3rd party software like SKTools
ciao
cesardeluxe said:
Here you have the right application for your needs. SAFEMODE ver.2.1
THis will let you solve freezing problems. I advance you that most problems come from HTC HOME and visual changes made with 3rd party programs...and a classic: installing default keyboards with 3rd party software like SKTools
ciao
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I hadn't made any install before the boot freeze. I had several programs installed but I soft reseted after every install to try to catch the incompatibility... still... freeze...
hie
philocritus said:
I never got this one till I installed Prophet touch VIII.
I'm guessing it's one of the today plugins/startup folder files that tries to read or write in some corrupted file.
Last time I got it I only got 2 today plugins: HTC home and battery status.
I found a way to reboot without hard reset so I'm going to explore the culprit
I've read in another forum spb pocket plus activates safe mode which loads windows without today plugins or services. It boots on boot screen freeze...
Next step, unplug the plugins 1 by one until it boots...
So for now I'll just wait for the next boot screen freeze
I'll keep you posted
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even i m stuck up with boot screen freeze with VIII rom .. how do i get out of it ..pls respond asap .. malr a copy to [email protected] also ..txxx
if the frozen screen has got todo with an application you installed in your sd card you can try to reboot without that sd
if it is not helping you will have to hard reset tour device.Next time install safemode
cheers
cesardeluxe said:
if the frozen screen has got todo with an application you installed in your sd card you can try to reboot without that sd
if it is not helping you will have to hard reset tour device.Next time install safemode
cheers
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tried the no sd solution.. to no avail... I'm tracking the problem down with a safe mode. so far I got no freeze so no conclusions...
I used to have this boot freeze issue with my PDAViet 4.0.0.0.6. The problem comes almost like every 2 weeks, sometimes if I'm lucky.. 3 weeks. In my ROM, it always stuck and I had suspected it to be the HTC X-Button. So, I just disabled it and now I'm using PBar 1.4. I think the problem disappeared for good now after I use PBar.
You are welcome to try
bankir said:
I used to have this boot freeze issue with my PDAViet 4.0.0.0.6. The problem comes almost like every 2 weeks, sometimes if I'm lucky.. 3 weeks. In my ROM, it always stuck and I had suspected it to be the HTC X-Button. So, I just disabled it and now I'm using PBar 1.4. I think the problem disappeared for good now after I use PBar.
You are welcome to try
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I'm using prophet touch VIII so I never got x-button...
I'm on the third clean week since I disconnected battery status... so for now I'm blamming that fellow
Hi Folks,
this is the first time I can read from someone else having the same issue as i do...!!!
I tried several rom's and latetly a thought its my neo! I have one some application installed but when i reflect the thread - yes! it must be one of the today plugins!
I have one 3 activated (!!!) plugins
a) HTC
b) Birthdayz
c) Calender
I had suxxess in geting my device up again when I removed the battery until the neo lost time&date. I assume it has to be the Birtdayz and/or Calender plugin. I would understand Birtdayz - but Calender would be odd!
I'll deinstall birthdayz and have a look at it!
cu oli
Have you guys seen this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320689
Bretheren -
I have a crazy problem that has been going on now for a week - neither the green "send" button nor the "answer" soft key will pick up the incoming call on the handset. I have no issue when I answer via my Jawbone. I am running No2Chem's '47 build, and when hard resetting, it works fine. Obviously something has changed in my registry since loading my progs.
Anyone have an idea if and where this setting is located in the registry? Thanks in advance!!!
Meat
Resolved with a hard reset and reload of proggies. I sure would like to know how to overcome this in the future, though, without having to resort to drastic measures.
samething happened to me, hard reset was my only cure, hasnt done it since...
i dont know what app was causing it but it happend to me only on 2.17
What apps did/do you have installed when you had this happening? I have it going on now - same exact thing... perhaps we can find the common app and determine what's doing it... here's my current load:
DCD Verizon 2.2.6
Skunkworks FlashVideoBundle
Google Maps
duttythroy Task Manager
KRebeiro EsmertecJbed
MediaHam
dcd Office Mobile 6.1
PHM Registry Editor
Schap's Advanced Config Tool
XFTeam SkinzSudoku
TCPMP
Singer's Creations Weather Watcher
.mUn. BT_DUN
ADW Standard Games
Yahoo! Go 2.0
WR-Tools ResInfo
dcd Adobe Reader 2.00
I have the same problem. I'm probably going to end up waiting and hard resetting when Sprint releases the upgrade ROM -- I'm too chicken to try a cooked ROM on my only phone.
It started sometime after installing one of these (I installed all 3 in the same night). I know, I know... Bad idea in the first place.
photocontacts_ppc_v305_ms_signed.cab - trial - my first bet since it took over the phone (uninstalled now, but still no fix)
Schaps_AdvancedConfig_v2.0.2.0.CAB
Kaiser Comm Manager 10 but.cab (uninstalled now, but still no fix)
Here are the other apps I have installed, but the list is so long it may not help at all. This is the list of installers and not the list of apps reported by uninstall. If I listed it as '(uninstalled)' then it was installed and removed since my last hard reset sometime last September.
picselbrowserSC1.cab
opera-mini-4.0.10031-advanced-int.jar
opera-mini-4.0.10031-advanced-int.jad
PPCPimBackupV2.8_wm2005.zip
cLaunch.arm.CAB (uninstalled)
IMSMSPPCInstall.CAB (uninstalled - didn't work)
HTC_AlbumFolder_Option.cab (uninstalled - like older HTC Album better)
metrix2.CAB (uninstalled - like older metrix better)
ProgramLauncherSetup.exe
zoa2dp_113.cab
KeePassPPC_WM6.CAB
PocketCM-0.18.cab
btIO-0.1.CAB
Group_SMS.CAB (uninstalled - keyboard issue)
GoogleMapsBeta.CAB
MyMobile10_70821.exe (uninstall failed)
FlashVideoBundle1.4.3.zip
tcpmp_349.zip
PPCPimBackupV2.5_wm2005.zip (uninstalled - got newer version)
Htc_Zip.cab
HTC-Album-1-0-822-716.cab (reinstalled after folder option)
PCMKeyboardEN-0.11b.cab
PocketCM-0.16.cab (uninstalled)
PocketCM-0.15.cab (uninstalled)
PocketPowerManager.CAB
HTC Action.cab (uninstalled)
GoogleMaps.CAB (uninstalled)
PocketToolman2.25b79a.CAB
KaiserTweak.exe
AvotmVppcV3.cab (uninstalled)
Task_Manager_2_0_30487_2.CAB
StopWatch_WM5.CAB
NSBirthdaySetup_as.exe
pimbirthdayz10.zip
RadarWatch2.ARM.CAB
PocketCM-0.13.cab (uninstalled)
Slide2UnLock1.21-WM5.cab (never got to work or unsintall)
hshopper3.armv4.cab
PocketCM-0.11b.cab
totalcommandermdpocketarm.cab
powerstatus_corrected.cab (uninstalled)
regedit.Mrln_ARM.cab
PocketCM-0.10.cab (uninstalled)
TipCalcSetup.exe
Douay-Rheims.exe
asv.exe
pocketESwordppc2005setup301.exe
metrix1-1.ARM.CAB
BallRebound_ARM_240_320_WM5.CAB
KokonotsuPPC.CAB
enlight_handango_1.exe
SuperDokuInstall.CAB
Sparkles pocketPC.exe (uninstalled)
PPcReversi_v1.3.0.1.exe
GemSwapPPC.exe
rk-TSRSetup.CAB
X-Button-1.5.cab
PIMBirthdayz_Setup.exe
VBirthday2Setup.exe (uninstalled)
Birthdays-1.2.10.ARM.cab (uninstalled)
pBar.exe (uninstalled)
freecell-setup-1.1.exe
tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab (uninstalled)
rlToday.CAB
PatiencesSetup.exe
tMan-0.9.6.ARM.cab
SunMoon-1.2.ARM.cab
The Count 1.0.CAB (uninstalled)
HTC Audio Manager
HTC.Kaizer.Home.Plugin.with.Tabsetting.schen.cab
HHCv08b.cab
PPCGeeksSprintMMS.cab
Nilisco Flashlight.cab (my favorite program)
wolfclocksetup.exe (uninstalled and hard reset - horrible program)
I am betting it's this one:
Schaps_AdvancedConfig_v2.0.2.0.CAB
I flashed to a newer DCD after posting in this thread and I did NOT install the above program again - phone works like a champ.
I am not sure if it is the samething,....I used to have lots of problem with my phone. I've only used the DCD versions since 2.0.0 and was about to give up. However, when DCD released the 2.3.2 kitchen without the telus roms available at that moment. I though I would cook one up, and since then, I have not looked back. I install the same programs and it has been working perfectly for about a week now... {touch wood}
I used to have a lot of problem described in this thread as well as not connecting via active sync. Since then everything is working as it should.
So, I am not sure it it has to do with my own cooked rom...but it sure seems like it as my phone have never worked this good since I got it on day one.
Update::
I finally got tired of waiting for the new Official ROM while forcing my friends to wait for me to call them back and did a Hard Reset back to 2.09.651.3. Phone answers every call for me now! Wooo Whoo!! I need to perfect my skill at this hard resetting for when the new ROM is released. It took me 3 hours to finish getting everything set back like I wanted it, although kudos to the PPCPimBackupV2.8_wm2005.zip for saving my data (although I would have liked a warning that it will only restore email data AFTER you create the email account - doh!)
Again, these are the three apps that were installed just before my phone quit letting me answer calls. I didn't re-install these three after the hard reset:
photocontacts_ppc_v305_ms_signed.cab - trial - my first bet since it took over the phone (uninstalled now, but still no fix)
Schaps_AdvancedConfig_v2.0.2.0.CAB (uninstalled, but still no fix)
Kaiser Comm Manager 10 but.cab (uninstalled now, but still no fix)
These are the apps that were on my phone when I had the problem before hard reset and reinstalled afterwards:
PPCPimBackupV2.8_wm2005.zip
zoa2dp_113.cab
KeePassPPC_WM6.CAB
GoogleMapsBeta.CAB (installed a newer copy)
MyMobile10_70821.exe (re-installed from desktop automatically hmmm)
FlashVideoBundle1.4.3.zip (upgraded to 1.4.4)
tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab
PocketToolman2.25b79a.CAB
RadarWatch2.ARM.CAB
totalcommandermdpocketarm.cab
regedit.Mrln_ARM.cab
Douay-Rheims.exe
asv.exe
pocketESwordppc2005setup301.exe
metrix1-1.ARM.CAB
PPcReversi_v1.3.0.1.exe
GemSwapPPC.exe
rk-TSRSetup.CAB
X-Button-1.5.cab
PIMBirthdayz_Setup.exe
enlight_handango_1.exe
PatiencesSetup.exe
SunMoon-1.2.ARM.cab
HTC Audio Manager
HTC.Kaizer.Home.Plugin.with.Tabsetting.schen.cab
HHCv08b.cab (upgraded to HHCv10b6.CAB)
PPCGeeksSprintMMS.cab
Nilisco Flashlight.cab (my favorite program)
These are the apps that were on my phone when I had the problem before hard reset and NOT reinstalled afterwards:
*picselbrowserSC1.cab
*opera-mini-4.0.10031-advanced-int.jar
*opera-mini-4.0.10031-advanced-int.jad
*ProgramLauncherSetup.exe
*PocketCM-0.18.cab
*btIO-0.1.CAB
*Htc_Zip.cab
*HTC-Album-1-0-822-716.cab
*PCMKeyboardEN-0.11b.cab
*PocketPowerManager.CAB
*KaiserTweak.exe
*StopWatch_WM5.CAB
*hshopper3.armv4.cab
*BallRebound_ARM_240_320_WM5.CAB
*KokonotsuPPC.CAB
*SuperDokuInstall.CAB
*freecell-setup-1.1.exe
*rlToday.CAB
*tMan-0.9.6.ARM.cab
Oh poor apps, I had you installed for some reason. Maybe someday, I'll remember why and give you life again.
I am still trying to decide which contact manager to use. I'll probably try RandomAccess next...
I had a lot of apps installed and uninstalled before the problem surfaced. I'm now betting the culprit was the AdvancedConfig as it seems to be cropping up in too many of these broken answering "feature" threads.
Oh one more thing...
I installed the AdvancedConfig to my wife's phone before I received any calls to notice the problem and she has had no issues with non-answerable calls.
Only difference I could see was that in my phone, AdvancedConfig had settings for HSPDA and also for GPS enable and hers did not. The phones are supposed to be identical. We bought them at the same time, both had problems and got exchanged in the same week. Both of hers came with a differently oriented power supply (cord came out the side of the wall socket plug whereas mine hung down from the socket) even though they were picked up in the same store in the same week.
So while I am quick to blame AdvancedConfig, it's still installed in her phone and she has not had the issue.
schaaps seems to be the common denomiator here...
AdvancedConfig was my problem. Works after reinstalling.
Thanks,
Kizer
I had this issue many moons ago when titan for vzw was first out. It was AdvancedConfig 2. I have not tried any version after as I was afraid of the "not able to answer calls" issue. Goes without saying I have not had any issues since.
A problem, for my important one, is that it occupies much memory.
It is to say..., in my single country exist maps for GARMIN XT and if I install MANILA DIALER does not load GARMIN to me XT by lack of memory, if I install plugins in the TODAY does not load the GARMIN to me by lack of memory...
Thanks!!!!!!!!!
I also have this issue with garmin mobile xt. This is not an issue with garmin only - i have it with all applications with high memory usage. Opera, netfront, album and garmin mobile xt have these issues for me.
I used before spb mobile shell on today screen / WM6 stock and I'm started applications from there - this causes lot of troubles for me now with AP4. It will work in first few attempts, but after few close/opens it seams like memory gets corrupted and any application from this affected list will not start at all. They are stuck but other small applications are working fine. Same issue with starting from HTC home and resco today plugin.
I tried multiple hard-resets, software configs and figured out only one solution for now. I have just simple default today's plugins and qickmenu. If I start applications from quickmenu everything appears to be fine - all can be started at once, no visible problems for now. As soon I use application start from today screen - applications will not start correctly, no error message, nothing. It just does not start - for example opera, loading popup will be shown forever.
I'm also tried with hard-reseted rom without any application installed. Same effect with opera - it will not start after few application started.
Do you have issues with other applications or just garmin mobile?
I also find that memory usage in base rom is too high. A lot of apps just refuse to start. Opera only works less than half the time, even if nothing else is running. Tom Tom only work 7 out 10 times. Movies tend to stutter after a few minutes. I have shut off vueflo, touchflo, removed some items in windows/startup and still device is not very usable. ALso, changed some registry tweaks with sktools, and schaps config, better but still issues.
I had a lot of high hopes for AP4, but am finding it not very useful for running applications. Opera is useless now. Who cares if it is a newer version if it hardly ever works. Actually, I found the Pre-Reease version worked better. I mean if you can't use today pluggins, kinda of makes the device crippled. Oh well, I guess back to using my kasier, until something is changed to make the device better.
eagle 1 said:
I also find that memory usage in base rom is too high. A lot of apps just refuse to start. Opera only works less than half the time, even if nothing else is running. Tom Tom only work 7 out 10 times. Movies tend to stutter after a few minutes. I have shut off vueflo, touchflo, removed some items in windows/startup and still device is not very usable. ALso, changed some registry tweaks with sktools, and schaps config, better but still issues.
I had a lot of high hopes for AP4, but am finding it not very useful for running applications. Opera is useless now. Who cares if it is a newer version if it hardly ever works. Actually, I found the Pre-Reease version worked better. I mean if you can't use today pluggins, kinda of makes the device crippled. Oh well, I guess back to using my kasier, until something is changed to make the device better.
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you say the pre release worked better. so that makes me wonder if the reason for the memory problems isnt the new manila sip. i think i need to do a beta of a potential 4.1 and try to get the rom right this time. few more issues need to be fixed and i'll have a public 4.1 beta available.
Pawel062 said:
you say the pre release worked better. so that makes me wonder if the reason for the memory problems isnt the new manila sip. i think i need to do a beta of a potential 4.1 and try to get the rom right this time. few more issues need to be fixed and i'll have a public 4.1 beta available.
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Pawel... my English is not very good... (Speak spanish and translate ALTAVISTA) are working in a new version that occupied less memory?
Thanks.
eagle 1 said:
I also find that memory usage in base rom is too high. A lot of apps just refuse to start. Opera only works less than half the time, even if nothing else is running. Tom Tom only work 7 out 10 times. Movies tend to stutter after a few minutes. I have shut off vueflo, touchflo, removed some items in windows/startup and still device is not very usable. ALso, changed some registry tweaks with sktools, and schaps config, better but still issues.
I had a lot of high hopes for AP4, but am finding it not very useful for running applications. Opera is useless now. Who cares if it is a newer version if it hardly ever works. Actually, I found the Pre-Reease version worked better. I mean if you can't use today pluggins, kinda of makes the device crippled. Oh well, I guess back to using my kasier, until something is changed to make the device better.
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Hello, Eagle, from where I can remove that previous version (Pre-Release version)?
Montecristo said:
Hello, Eagle, from where I can remove that previous version (Pre-Release version)?
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Sorry Pre-release version is not available.
As pawel stated, he is working on another version that may use less memory.
After reading over my post, it seems a bit harsh. I did not mean for it to come across that way. A lot of work went into AP4 and sounds like more will come from the team.
Pawel, I see dutty commented on the AP4 and that he was going to try it out. Ever think about trying to get him to collaborate with the AP4 team. He is a great rom builder and seems to put out Roms (always better) every couple of weeks with the latest wm versions for the kaiser.
eagle 1 said:
Sorry Pre-release version is not available.
As pawel stated, he is working on another version that may use less memory.
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@dutty: welcome, some suggestion for AP4.1?
@Pawel
I am testing AP4, at system's startup, 63.52 Mb free (100.83 Total) with Memmaid only
Having Memmaid, Mail, PocketCM(2.1), Resco 2007, Today Agenda, HTC HOME VGA and Audio Manager active 43.36 Mb free
Adding windows media, opera (default page), tom tom 6, I still have 37 Mb free
Adding large pages to opera (www.repubblica.it, big page, and xda developers in a second tab), Internet Explorer (www.repubblica.it ), I have 22Mb free, more than some TyTN!
From the "plain AP4" I tweaked the system for speed, (many tools can to the same, including Schaps advanced config), removed HTC home using HTC_HOME_VGA
I can't believe in a real low memory problem! I confirm the feeling about the system seems "to hang" sometime when many applications are opened, waiting 10-15 seconds everything is working again and is still responsive.
May be the problems reported are buffer problem, a cache problem..., low resources problem, instead of a simple low memory.
I've closed memmaid and it seems to freeze for a while , tapping on upper's bar application tab nothing happens (Yes, I forgot, I am using wtask and quickmenu too) , but after 8-10 sec is working again and is fast!
Windows error messages are liers sometime (many...) !
sergiopi said:
@dutty: welcome, some suggestion for AP4.1?
@Pawel
I am testing AP4, at system's startup, 63.52 Mb free (100.83 Total) with Memmaid only
Having Memmaid, Mail, PocketCM(2.1), Resco 2007, Today Agenda, HTC HOME VGA and Audio Manager active 43.36 Mb free
Adding windows media, opera (default page), tom tom 6, I still have 37 Mb free
Adding large pages to opera (www.repubblica.it, big page, and xda developers in a second tab), Internet Explorer (www.repubblica.it ), I have 22Mb free, more than some TyTN!
From the "plain AP4" I tweaked the system for speed, (many tools can to the same, including Schaps advanced config), removed HTC home using HTC_HOME_VGA
I can't believe in a real low memory problem! I confirm the feeling about the system seems "to hang" sometime when many applications are opened, waiting 10-15 seconds everything is working again and is still responsive.
May be the problems reported are buffer problem, a cache problem..., low resources problem, instead of a simple low memory.
I've closed memmaid and it seems to freeze for a while , tapping on upper bar application tab nothing happens (Yes, I forgot, I am using wtask and quickmenu too) , but after 8-10 sec is working again and is fast!
Windows error messages are liers sometime (many...) !
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and which two explanation you find him to that if I have plugins in today, GARMIN XT does not start and if them exempt if?
If I have installed MANILA DIALER, GARMIN XT to not it starts me and if exempt it, if?
Montecristo said:
and which two explanation you find him to that if I have plugins in today, GARMIN XT does not start and if them exempt if?
If I have installed MANILA DIALER, GARMIN XT to not it starts me and if exempt it, if?
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Low resources, badly written SW (Manila Dialer, Today's Plugins or Garmin XT), many other explanations. Don't trust in windows errors codes, from Vista to CE, they are only a trace!
Well I have had to do a hard reset and one flash in the last 2 weeks. I am beginning to lose my mind I guess.
The first time after I did the install.The phone works fine for a few days, then it Sloooooows down to a creeping level. It would freeze from time to time and would take forever to open a program. I thought PhotoContacts Pro 5 caused this. So I did a Flashed after the phone froze all the time on the Splash screen just about to load Windows. But after that I reinstalled all my programs and it worked fine for a few days then it went back to freezing again, taking an eternity to Open any program. And mark you, I did not install PhotoCOntacts this time. I did a hard reset and reinstalled everything again, and since yesterday, it's been doing the same thing again. My Ram is always free, like 10- 15 MB left when running. Coz I use one program at a time. So, please what could I be doing wrong? Am I skipping something. I never had this problem with dcd 3.0.4.
Any insight is highly appreciated.
Thank you
Can you list the programs you have installed? And what do you have built into ROM. did you use Kitchen or Prebuilt?
I used Pre-built
I have
Adobe Reader 2.0
Flash lite 2.1
Office Mobile 6.1
HTC Album
HTC Audio Manager
HTC Home Customizer
HTC Cube by Xplode
Extreme Text 1.2
Java Emulator
MemMaid 2.0
Microsoft One Note
PHM Registry Editor
FlashBundle for Youtube
TCMP player
Pocket Rar
PPC-6800
psShutXP
Resco Radio
Skyfire
Sprite Backup
TomTom Navigator
VoiceSpeed Dial
Skype for Windows Mobile
Slick IM
Sprint TV
Live Search
Google Maps
PdaNet
WMWifiRouter
Yahoo GO 3.0 Beta
sMMS
Sprint Home Screen Plugin
GPS toggle
HTC Task Manager
HTC Large Start Menu
HTC Large Taskbar
Nue Audio
Well that's it, I know it's a lot , but they all use to run in Harmony
With that big of a list, your best bet will probably be to load a few at a time, use it for a couple of days to see if the problem recurs, so you can narrow it down. There are some programs that don't play well with 6.1.
I also notice you say you have onenote listed. That is already included with msoffice apps in dcd's kitchen. Maybe installing on top has caused a problem with this or some other app?
Yup, limit down on the apps/util that always have a process running -- ie. HTC apps & the cube. Plus, a lot of your others often have a today item running, so close those down.
Most of us go after no less than 16-18 MB (or better) after a re-boot. With you at only 10-15MB free, you have plenty running that the rest of us choose to do without.
Damionix said:
I have
Adobe Reader 2.0
Flash lite 2.1
Office Mobile 6.1
HTC Album
HTC Audio Manager
HTC Home Customizer
HTC Cube by Xplode
Extreme Text 1.2
Java Emulator
MemMaid 2.0
Microsoft One Note
PHM Registry Editor
FlashBundle for Youtube
TCMP player
Pocket Rar
PPC-6800
psShutXP
Resco Radio
Skyfire
Sprite Backup
TomTom Navigator
VoiceSpeed Dial
Skype for Windows Mobile
Slick IM
Sprint TV
Live Search
Google Maps
PdaNet
WMWifiRouter
Yahoo GO 3.0 Beta
sMMS
Sprint Home Screen Plugin
GPS toggle
HTC Task Manager
HTC Large Start Menu
HTC Large Taskbar
Nue Audio
Well that's it, I know it's a lot , but they all use to run in Harmony
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I have used most if not all of these apps except for PPC-6800 (not sure what it is) Hers the ones I had to cut out.
HTC Home - seemed no matter what version i used it ate speed and memory. I use the time/date format on the top bar and wisbar adds battery status. I use pocket weather with custom skin as thats primarily what i used the home plugin for.
HTC Taskmanager (X-Button) - phone ran much better without it, had better luck with wisbar lite of full.
Yahoo Go - I have never had this work well, on any phone...
HTC Cube - While it may not continuously eat ram, it does use 2 to 3 meg after you fist use it. I use the GL version and close it with task manager after using it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358102&highlight=cube
Voice Command - If it is the MS version it uses 1 to 2 meg and can lock up. Generally i don't have problems with it but it does consume ram.
One I see you don't have that caused me issues was Schap advanced config util. After i ran it i wouldn't be able to answer incoming calls among other issues.
Another question would be; are you syncing e-mail? how much and how many accounts? I have found if i sync less days it helped with stability(although its probably just me). I sync to an exchange server, gmail, and yahoo.
i've had a few issues with 3.1.2 that i didn't have with 3.0.4 either. Radio is still the same i had on both builds..i'm using 3.37 from Alltel's OEM Radio/Rom. I haven't quite researched how to update to Radio 3.39 from my SD, so that's why i'm still with 3.37.
My problems are these:
1) Anytime i'm in Roaming and get a call, a big screen comes up and says "Roaming Charges May apply". I've never had that before.
2) When i'm on the phone and someone calls in, the loud call waiting buzz comes up, but if i ignore it, and let the user leave a voicemail, it cuts my current call off. It seems to do it worse if/when they leave a voicemail.
3) When i'm on the phone i was under the impression that data was knocked off. I've never had this problem before, but now if i'm on the phone, my phone shuts off if/when an email comes in.
4) GPS isn't even close. when i flash back to 3.0.4 it's right on. For some reason with 3.1.2 it's 20-30 miles off. Really weird.
5) Weird again because this shouldn't be a Rom issue, but my signal is totally lower than it was with 3.0.4
no biggies, i can go back to 3.0.4 because it was very solid, but here are a few of my issues.
Thanx everyone
Edit:
I decided to wait a whole day and see, after carrying out all the advice I was given. Well the problem still persists and still takes long to open programs. I have decided to go back to 3.0.4. That was more stable for me. Hopefully it will let me downgrade.
Hi all - first post on xda - please be gentle ;-)
Can anyone suggest what may be the most stable setup on the HD2? the constant freezing is starting to make the phone unusable for me as I use it for work and before I move to something else I thought I'd ask some advice on a better setup.
I have had WM machines (pocket PC) for a long while mainly Ipaq and my last 4150 worked for years without a hitch - couple of screen taps and any info I needed was there quickly mainly excel spread sheets e-mails and schedule, the thing never missed a beat in years. The HD2 seemed the ideal phone replacement.
I have not gone mad with the phone it is pretty stock with a couple of usable mods (CHT and editor etc) every day or so, maybe twice a day I press the on button to bring up the lock screen and it freezes - always when I need it most - it freezes in a particular way ie I can see the taskbar at the top, MENU and PHONE on the bottom (which "react" when pressed but do not bring up the function) and blank screen in between - it needs a soft reset - I have installed the endkey long press which works but this always happens when I need the information quickly and waiting for it to reboot is not quick enough
I would dearly miss co0kies home tab and the couple of mods but if a standard ROM is the best so be it (was going to try the vodafone 1.72 ROM) - or is there a real stripped down ROM that is simple and stable removing all the baggage on the standard ROM. I've never done it but I'm not averse to having a go at cooking a ROM if it will get me what I need
I use all the "business" type functions - dont need twitter/facebook/footprints etc would really use the documents Tab
ROM 1.66.405.2 (76641) WWE
Radio 2.06.51.07
Manila 2.5.19211619.0
Co0kies home tab 1.8.5
CHT editor 1.8.5.1
Resco Registry add in
Resco explorer
Skype
SPB Backup
Avian waves BattlineSvc
Microsoft .NET CF 3.5
Windows marketplace
Each time it locks up I'm getting fed up of friends/colleagues swiping their Iphones at me going "look! mine doesn't do that"
I like the HD2 I'd like to be able to say "but yours doesn't do all this" with all the extra capabilities - instead I seem to be always rebooting - waiting for sense to launch
I don't want to lose the HD2 and its capabilities but If I cant get it to be a bit more stable the Desire is looking tempting or even (wash my mouth out with soap) an Iphone?
Any thoughts or suggestions would be really appreciated
My hd2 became unstable when i had cookies home tab, its been solid as a rock since I uninstalled it, give it a go, I don't miss it anyway.
oh, and if they want proof, my friend has had the same locking up issues on 6 replacement iphones. it crawls to a halt then refuses to react, so he has to wait until the battery goes flat as he can't reset it...
You might want to try moving up to the 1.72 wwe rom and try that with and without cht, perhaps even try rolling back to an older version of cht.
I used to suffer the lockscreen freezing on the stock 1.66 rom.
I cant remember if it persisted after moving to the 1.72 im afraid, I dont think it did though.....
Does it only freeze when using the cht lockscreens?
HardSPL your phone and flash-
http://www.vbnfiles.com/xda/g_lewarne/CleanEx/CleanEX%20Core655%203.50.7z
CHT works fine along with anything else I have thrown at the ROM!
Stable as a rock and is an excellent dive board into Android as well.
For extra "cut down" disable sense and run Resco today plug-in as your home screen.
I used to flash numerous times a week, but, I haven't changed a thing since 16th Aug and that's a record.
what version of CHT are you using as i had to revert back to v1.7 due to the latest one giving me problems...i would suggest to upgrade your Rom to 1.72 start fresh again and install all necessary apps you need one by one that way you can analyse if certain apps are conflicting causing the frezzing problem that you have ....if that doesnt work try a custom rom.
rp-x1 said:
My hd2 became unstable when i had cookies home tab, its been solid as a rock since I uninstalled it, give it a go, I don't miss it anyway.
oh, and if they want proof, my friend has had the same locking up issues on 6 replacement iphones. it crawls to a halt then refuses to react, so he has to wait until the battery goes flat as he can't reset it...
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On the iPhone tell him to hold the sleep button + the home button for a few seconds... That should do the trick.
i had the exactly same issue on my second hd2 and had my phone sent in (also vibracall was sounding abnormally), i should get it back this week. i hope CHT works then, my first hd2 never had problems like that....
Thanks indeed for the info I did have a sneaky suspicion that CHT may be a problem, I will try the stock 1.72 and maybe try a few things one at a time see if it helps thanks again
ive had problkems that sound like that, the lockscreen disapears and you can see the screen you have behind, except you still have to slide to unluck . with the vbn rom my lockscreen problems dispaeared complelty. it still seemed to suffer from memory issues but for the most part it was stable.
i hardly use windows mobile anymore, as android is way more fun, and it never complains about not having anough memory
I would suggest couple of things:
- make sure, that all the additional icons (if any) and wallpapers used are in phone memory, i.e. not on sd card.
- using bsb tweaks You can disable wm 6.5 lockscreen and give s2u2 a try