Hi
Maybe this is a noob question but I couldn't figure it out myself...
Is there a way to backup the WHOLE device into a single file (like a ROM)? That is, not only the actual ROM but also all the programs that were installed after the ROM was flashed as well as all the settings that were made? So, I'm speaking of something like an image file of the complete device, as it is...
Why I'm asking this... I have tried many different WM6.5 ROMs with some of them not being stable or good. Some of them generated spontaneous hard-resets, even though I had flashed the stripped ATT ROM before and did a hard reset after flashing... Now I have a very nice, stable and fast ROM and everything works just fine, of course it took me a while to customize it for my needs. So, in case that hard-reset-thing occurs again or if I **** the phone up by installing some crappy software I'd like to have the option to restore the phone as it is NOW (and not after a hard-reset of course)....
Any idea?
I found this, but I'm not sure if this really backups everything or just the actual ROM...
Try SPB backup 2 or, if you can find it, SPB clone. They are commercial products but they are worth your money.
SPB clone is more business oriented as it clones the whole system and registry. Makes sure all company phones have the same base information/contacts/apps.
You can, in effect, use it to make another phone a clone of your Hermes however I have found that with both of these apps that the base rom isn't changed. It tries to make the os like the backup image. Clone has a better success rate than backup but remember that if there are certain files needed to make a different OS work, and they weren't copied in the clone image, it may brick your device requiring you to either start all over again with the new OS or going back to the rom you cloned.
Cheers...
OK, so am I right in saying that I need both, the actual ROM file and the backup file created by SPB clone in order to reliably restore my phone?
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Hi everyone. With all of these awesome new ROMs coming out I am constantly tempted(and often pull the trigger) to keep trying them out. I have been using Sprite Backup 6.1 which has a feature that saves device data for doing just this and is supposed to be able to do a device restore even with a new rom. I'm skeptical of this considering that many of these roms are built with OS's that are not yet released. Therefore, how can Sprite test the restore fully? The restore options are rom, device, safe, restore databases etc. Do you experienced rom testers/devs have any advice on the best way to painlessly migrate the Mogul to a new rom without installing all of your programs and doing all registry tweaks again etc? I want to try the new DCD 2.2 but I just spent the last 2 days reinstalling everything from my original gps rom to the 2.1 rom. Thanks again for all the help.
I believe the only way is to re-install everything. I think using Sprite merges all the files leaving more junk in your system. I keep upgrading just like you and manually install every file on every update. Its the cost of having your phone run up to date.
ouch, that is going to give me pause before going to dcd2.2. I guess I will wait a bit to rest up a bit since I stayed up until 3am this morning getting things tweaked with the new rom.
shadowreader said:
Hi everyone. With all of these awesome new ROMs coming out I am constantly tempted(and often pull the trigger) to keep trying them out. I have been using Sprite Backup 6.1 which has a feature that saves device data for doing just this and is supposed to be able to do a device restore even with a new rom. I'm skeptical of this considering that many of these roms are built with OS's that are not yet released. Therefore, how can Sprite test the restore fully? The restore options are rom, device, safe, restore databases etc. Do you experienced rom testers/devs have any advice on the best way to painlessly migrate the Mogul to a new rom without installing all of your programs and doing all registry tweaks again etc? I want to try the new DCD 2.2 but I just spent the last 2 days reinstalling everything from my original gps rom to the 2.1 rom. Thanks again for all the help.
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Wow -- really 2 days?
I have mine down to a science now. From the moment I start the upgrade to when I am finished is now 45min or less (my best has been 38).
I have created a doc that list step-by-step what I need to do next; therefore, eliminating the guess work and me trying to remember what's next.
Good Times!!!
I have a bunch of cabs on my storage card that I run. Then I put in my outlook server info and the phone is basically back to normal.
I have heard of the 2577 method on the SD card. I personally have not tried it. Apparrently you create a folder named 2577 on the storage card with the cab files and a autorun.exe file. (EDIT: The AutoRun shoudl be in the Stock ExtRom). This should be in the Stock ExtRom. I have read they use this when doing a lot of PPC for companies.
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms832313.aspx
I would like to try some cooked ROMs.
But I fully personalized all the settings in my actual shipped ROM.
I lost so much time to personalize it.
Is there a way to do a full backup or a "dump" of the internal memory as it is now?
Or there is a good backup program that FULLY backup all settings? (not only documents, contacts, messages, etc... but also registry, program settings, etc...).
So if I want to go back to my actual ROM, I reflash it then I restore the "dump" to get back all my old settings?
Thanks to all for your help!
Read here for instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424805&highlight=Dump
And please search in the future.
Ta
Dave
I'm sorry Dave, I read the topics about,
but I wasn't sure if the dump of the ROM creates only an image of the ROM's zone where there are the first WM installation/boot files (just like after an hard reset), or if it saves exactly the actual state of internal memory of the device.
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I'm sorry Dave, I read the topics about,
but I wasn't sure if the dump of the ROM creates only an image of the ROM's zone where there are the first WM installation/boot files (just like after an hard reset), or if it saves exactly the actual state of internal memory of the device.
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It save's the current state IIRC.
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Dave
No, it doesn't save the current state, only the installation files of the ROM.
I created the dump and I created ruu_signed.nbh.
I flashed ROMeOS, then I flashed back my created ROM.
All settings and programs are gone.
I think I didn't well explained what I would like to know.
I mean if it is possible to create a flash nbh file with the ROM backup (and this can be done, there are many thread about, I tried too and I succedeed), but also a full backup of ALL INSTALLED PROGRAMS IN THE INTERNAL STORAGE (programs I installed, no default ROM programs), all settings (TouchFLO3D settings and customization, phone settings,etc...), registry and system data.
As SBP Backup does.
And also avoid hard-reset restart after flashing that nbh file.
So the phone starts directly the first time normally.
What there is in the Part03.raw which is 330Mb?
The dimension is near the available internal storage.
I dont think it quite works like that.
I think your best bet is to build your own rom with your own settings and apps, AFAIK this is the only way to have the phone exactly as your want it after first boot.
Also have a look at SASHIMI, you may be able to get the results you want using that, although something seems to have happened to the thread pro tem.
Thank you dabs!
I will learn to build my own ROMs.
I used other's cooked ROMs for a long time.
I would like to be able to cook mine.
I downloaded and tried Sashami 7.5. It's a great and powerful program!
Also documentation is simple and complete.
Just in case you you havnt seen it:-
What you want the Raphael Kitchen, its an awesome package that lets mere mortals build their own perfect rom.
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Thank you dabs!
I will learn to build my own ROMs.
I used other's cooked ROMs for a long time.
I would like to be able to cook mine.
I downloaded and tried Sashami 7.5. It's a great and powerful program!
Also documentation is simple and complete.
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SASHIMI 7.7 is now available. The new location is here
hi all need urgent advice as ive killed my hd2
i was fearful of upgrading to new rom from htc website (v-1.66...)
was using 1.48.405.2 (71294) wwe
I made sure i researched everything 1st. i downloaded trial of spb backup. installed to phone. did full backup, saved to sd card. closed all progs, phone & pc
opened rom update and followed instructions. update then finished, went through setup on phone.
all seemed fine. basic clock, time settings (few new features etc)
I then went to file explorer/storage card and opened spb backup file. clicked next throughout. device reset on its own and loaded with new rom number on startup.
Problem!!!!
have my background image up pictures seem to be back, as are messages. cab files ive installed are present but I cant access contacts and a few other features.
repeated messages are 'a problem has occured with cprog.exe' please tell microsoft blah blah!!!
Htc sense will not launch despite how hard i hit the screen.
Ive no signal at all and cant sync with my pc. i guess suggestions of a hard reset will follow this post but will i not be in the same boat as i will need to restore my settings etc from sd card and spb backup.
please help!!!
try to flash the rom again or try to use your old one.
if you dont wanna hear the word "hardreset" i dont tell it to you
DN41
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try to flash the rom again or try to use your old one.
if you dont wanna hear the word "hardreset" i dont tell it to you
DN41
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ok. will try
shouldprob mention that i got a strange message when trying to restore
'this device is different from one which this backup was made. please choose upgrade mode'
then a dropdown menu with
'normal mode'
'rom upgrade mode'
'device upgrade mode'
with a check box 'overwrite existing files' (this is checked)
seems strange but the message before states that the backup was created on an t-mob leo device.
something wrong here maybe???
yeah could be.
sorry mate, i'm not very knowledged about spb backup
DN41
sp backup has a "rom upgrade" option i'm guessing you usedthat? in which case that's the problem, because it really means upgrade of the same rom, whereas you have a totally new rom, so should use the individual settingsoption, and reinstall your programs manually.
(based on reading, i've never done it myself, nor used sp backup)
re flash your original rom, restore your backup and think again how and what you are backing up.
just tried a 'normal restore' as the description says restore to original device backup was made on.
phone has now turned on with everything the same as i left it but looking at the software description its gone back to the original rom 1.48.405.2
do i have to run the update again?
what the hell is going on with this phone!!!
no, the rom is the new rom, but thats a fine example of whats wrong.
It has restored the rom version info from your registry backup.
The rom version is not a problem, of course, it just says teh wwrong thing, but there are likely to be loads of reg settings that ARE a problem.
Basically, using backup software can be a pain, till you know its pitfalls. Thats why i dont bother. Contacts/calendar via outlook, and thats it. Everything else i setup manually myself. (Well, i dont cos by now i've made cabs for all my tweaks and what not, but tyou get the idea.)
This is one of the main reasons I don't backup Settings and Programs. I only back up my PIM, and sometimes even that plays up.
You are better off just syncing your phone with Outlook, hardreset, sync again to get your PIM information, and reinstalling your programs one by one.
I can tell you this I use SPB backup all the time, but ...
1.) Normal restore is only for restoring to the EXACT same ROM that you had on before ..
2.) ROM upgrade mode is only good for ROMs in the same series*
*ROM upgrade mode only works correctly on "upgraded" version of the same ROM you had on it , for example, in my case I use Energy ROM CHT 23569 JUL 1st, I make a backup, then upgrade to Energy ROM CHT 23569 JUL 16th, then ROM upgrade mode should work, but if you go say from a Stock TMO rom to a custom rom or a 21xxx series rom to a 23xxx series rom you will have "ISSUES".
If you plan on flashing ROMs often , you either need to learn to use something like XDA_UC, Sashimi, or Toms Autoinstall, and make frequent PIM backups ..
As well as keeping all your program cabs in a safe organized place so you can put them back on ...
I hope this helps you get it sorted ....
Every since i updated to the latest rom via the HTC website, i noticed my phone info now says T-Mobile_LEO, what's up with that? NORMAL or what?
Plus SPB Backup also recognises it as not the same device i made a backup on although it is, even if i backup using the same rom it thinks it's different.
Other then this weird thing the entire phone works flawless, was just curious as to whats up.
Thanks for any input.
mine does this too because the energy rom im using based on a rom for the tmous..... must be the same sort of issue.
its nothing to worry about, shouldn't cause you any problems.
I wouldn't advise restoring your backup from an old rom to a new rom anyway in case there are any incompatibility issues....
Just tried to restore my backup from SPB Backup which was made on this phone and when i get to the restore part it states the phone is different from the one which i made the backup ?? Anyone with any ideas what's up here ?
Why does it say it's T-Mobile_Leo in the first place as the rom update was downloaded from HTC's own website.
Anyone else had this same problem ??
I backed up everything and now i can't restore it properly.
121man said:
Just tried to restore my backup from SPB Backup which was made on this phone and when i get to the restore part it states the phone is different from the one which i made the backup ?? Anyone with any ideas what's up here ?
Why does it say it's T-Mobile_Leo in the first place as the rom update was downloaded from HTC's own website.
Anyone else had this same problem ??
I backed up everything and now i can't restore it properly.
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First, you should only use SPB Backup to restore to the SAME ROM as was backed up. Otherwise you will have trouble. Not might, will.
You have to select the Force ROM Upgrade mode, and then just before the restore, check the options and select ROM upgrade. Then it should work.
Hi there,
Well, I just got my HD2 back from repairs, where they replaced the mainboard. The ROM seems to be the same, 3.14, but the phone ID is showing as T-Mobile_LEO. When I restored using SPB backup, it said the ROM was different though. What is going on here?
Thanks,
David
I can't figure it out either, exact same thing but my one happened with the rom update.
Weird.
Do some of you guys use Swype?
If yes, the naming of your device is "normal", Swype wouldn´t run with the "normal" naming.
Afaik, the Swype cab installs a certain file into the Windows folder.
If you remove it, the name would be normal, but Swype won´t run correctly.
Ahh. I use swype, I did not know it actually renames the device.
That actually makes sense.
Thanks for this finally cleared up now.
Brilliant.
Hello,
It would be great if someone could help me out.
I have spent the whole day trying to find out if it is possible to create a flashable rom from an already running and setup android device.
I have found many tutorials on how to create roms from scratch, but can't seem to find a way to do it from an already running android device.
I already have an android device setup with all the apps, settings and files I want in the rom. I wondered if there was a way to use my Windows system to create a flashable rom from this device which I can then use to setup/flash new devices.
I hope that makes sense.
Thanks for your time.
Hi there, i am curious as well if this is possible.
I have to set up about 1600 Samsung S5 mini phone's for a customer. Almost al the setting, apps en stuf are identical so i would also like to create a flashable rom / image from one phone so we can install it to the other 1599 phones
Thanx in advance.
steefzz said:
Hi there, i am curious as well if this is possible.
I have to set up about 1600 Samsung S5 mini phone's for a customer. Almost al the setting, apps en stuf are identical so i would also like to create a flashable rom / image from one phone so we can install it to the other 1599 phones
Thanx in advance.
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Hi,
From what I have read online if you are wanting to do this for a phone you can do a nandroid backup. I have just found a number of guides on how to do this with phones. If you search this forum for nandroid backup you will find them. Hope that helps you steefzz.
I am actually trying to clone TV box with all apks installed and configured. I can see how I can package apks into a rom, but they won't have all addons and settings saved. This is why I was hoping for a way to clone the entire device to restore onto future devices.
Ideally i don't even want to have to power up the devices, I would like to plug them into my PC apply the cloned rom and that's it.
If anyone has an idea of how to do that without having to pre-install any recovery or software onto the devices, or even power them up before hand ( they are already rooted) that would be great.
Thanks again.
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Hi,
From what I have read online if you are wanting to do this for a phone you can do a nandroid backup. I have just found a number of guides on how to do this with phones. If you search this forum for nandroid backup you will find them. Hope that helps you steefzz.
I am actually trying to clone TV box with all apks installed and configured. I can see how I can package apks into a rom, but they won't have all addons and settings saved. This is why I was hoping for a way to clone the entire device to restore onto future devices.
Ideally i don't even want to have to power up the devices, I would like to plug them into my PC apply the cloned rom and that's it.
If anyone has an idea of how to do that without having to pre-install any recovery or software onto the devices, or even power them up before hand ( they are already rooted) that would be great.
Thanks again.
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Hi,
Thanks for your reply.
With a nandroid backup it wil indeed kind of work out how i want, however when i want to restore a backup to the phone, the backup has to be in \TWRP\BACKUPS\<PhonIdNr>
The Phone Id number is unique and before i can restore a backup, i first have to make a small backup to create these folders.
Also i am expected to write a manual so that other collegaes can also do this procedure. For me it's no problem (i'm using custom roms for about 5 years now with different brands) however most of my collegeas are not known with these methods to restore a nandroid.
So i was experimenting with the creation of a own made custom rom . For now it partially worked. I managed to make a flashable zipfile. However it only work is i dont install the /data folder. If i only install the /system folder it works fine, only i have to maken al bunch of manual setting. When i also install the /data folder the phone is stuck at boot logo, when i then full wipe i, it will boot again.
So i actually would like to maken a flashable zip or an Odin flashable tar that also contains (some) /data.
Is this even possible?