Can I use an iPod wall charger + the USB cable to charge my G1?
RueTheDay said:
Can I use an iPod wall charger + the USB cable to charge my G1?
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I tried once to use the apple charger with a mini usb cable to charge another phone and it didn't work. I think Apple may have messed with the pin outs or something
benmyers2941 said:
I tried once to use the apple charger with a mini usb cable to charge another phone and it didn't work. I think Apple may have messed with the pin outs or something
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I don't see how apple could have messed with the pin outs, because the USB A cable that plugs in your pc must have the +5 G Data + and Data - in a specific order for it to work on your pc.
and as far as i can see the 3 pin > usb adapter is just a step down transformer with a Female usb port on it so should work unless its not actually outputting +5v that may be a reason why it didn't work.
ive used a non apple ac to usb one no problems, and i agree with the above, theres no way they could have messed with the pinouts or it wouldnt be usb anymore... i see no reason why it shouldnt work, might have to take one outta the box and try (got a few here at radioshack)
I have tried it and it works...simple really
I use one every night, works for me for charging (but I hate the shiny white color, grawr!) ^_^
Yep, I've tested it and it works just fine.
OTOH, the cheap $4.95 car charger my wife bought online doesn't seem to be able to charge my G1, her Blackberry, or any other phone. The light comes on and the phone says "Charging" but the charge level never actually increases.
RueTheDay said:
Yep, I've tested it and it works just fine.
OTOH, the cheap $4.95 car charger my wife bought online doesn't seem to be able to charge my G1, her Blackberry, or any other phone. The light comes on and the phone says "Charging" but the charge level never actually increases.
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I got this for my old TyTn 2 and it works fine with the Dream and the car charger is HTC branded,
The cradle is a little loose for the dream but you use the dash of the car to kind of balance it in and its fine.
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Since HTC Dream isn't for sale here, no accessories are marked to be Dream compatible. There's however lots of Touch (and other HTC models) accessories available. Is it safe to assume that anything that fits the Mini USB of a Touch also works with the Dream? More specifically, chargers (mains and car).
/Mats
I've used the same mini-USB cable to charge my PS3 controller, my G1, and other devices.
I've personally used, g1 charger, g1 usb cable, BB charger, BB usb cable, moto RAZR charger, standard mini usb.... all of the above are 5V usb spec... only diff for the wall chargers is the aperage...
If your referring to other attachments such as speaker dongles and the like I would venture to say so since the port on the g1 is titled extUSB same as many other HTC phones
Nice - Just what I wanted to hear. Now I can go buy that HTC Touch/TyTN/et al car charger I found at a local shop, and plug it in with confidence. Thanks to all who have responded.
/Mats
ZilverZurfarn said:
Nice - Just what I wanted to hear. Now I can go buy that HTC Touch/TyTN/et al car charger I found at a local shop, and plug it in with confidence. Thanks to all who have responded.
/Mats
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I tried the USB to 3.5 mm adapter, with controls for a handsfree and music (call, end call, mute, hold, play, stop, volume...) that came with my HTC Tytn II, and the G1 didn't react to it...
blazzr said:
I tried the USB to 3.5 mm adapter, with controls for a handsfree and music (call, end call, mute, hold, play, stop, volume...) that came with my HTC Tytn II, and the G1 didn't react to it...
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I used the same MicroUSB to 3.5MM adapter that came with the G1 on my HTC Touch and it worked fine.. it didn't work on my BlackBerry 8830 however, but that one has a 2.5MM headphone out along with a USB out, which i can assume for file transfer.
How big of a difference does the amperage make in temrs of battery life ?
Ex 1 charger I have is 200mah the other 500mah.
Ill assume charging speeds will be different but will this cause any additional wear and tear on battery ?
I wish we had the same thing up in Canada, the Rogers Dream comes with its own proprietary USB dongle on the bottom. So when I lost my phone wall charger I am doomed to PC only charging.
KOF33 said:
...but will this cause any additional wear and tear on battery ?
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It shouldn't. Anything with a LiIon battery needs a charge controller. The controller's sole job is to monitor the temperature and charge rate as the battery charges and keep it within a certain range. That's why "Battery Info" in spare parts shows the temperature.
It doesn't matter if you're charging from a USB A-to-miniB cable since the G1 will limit the power draw from the charger to 500mA unless the charger has some pins shorted in the USB connector.
Does anyone know if the MiniUSB port on the Dream supports a power OUT function? We are brainstorming ideas on getting flash (as in camera flash) onto the phone, and one idea is with an LED connected to the MiniUSB port
SolemnWishing said:
Does anyone know if the MiniUSB port on the Dream supports a power OUT function? We are brainstorming ideas on getting flash (as in camera flash) onto the phone, and one idea is with an LED connected to the MiniUSB port
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Nope, no power available there. Why not hack it into an extended battery cover? There's lots of room to work, and you could even tap into the battery directly. Just watch out for shorting the battery terminals unless you like your G1 extra crispy.
So, bought the following cradle from DayDeal's ebay store:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350284094212
The product description says the following:
* Custom-fitted Docking Cradle
* USB connection/charging cable
* AC power adapter
* Stylus
Now the issue is with the second line. What is NOT explained here is that the unit when plugged IN to a wall jack AND the sync charge cable is plugged in to your computer, the sync/charge cable gets no more power from the wall jack and wants to get it from ONLY the sync/charge USB cable. All of this leads to the unit being grossly undercharged and therefore, complains that there is not enough charge coming from the power source and that you need to shut down and therefore the whole idea of a wall charger is useless after this.
WHY would a sync/charge USB cable which by the way is physically attached to the unit and cannot be removed, while the wall jack plugs into a proprietary mini-USB cable. I know it's proprietary because I tried first to use the wall charging cable that came with my TP2 from Sprint.
So, I'd recommend not buying this cradle unless you want to do what I'm doing now, have a USB sync/charge cable dangling from the unit and NOT plugged into the computer, but instead only plug in the wall charger and sync and data transfer via USB which is what I was doing before except now, I have a cradle to do it in.
Not a good trade-off to me. I bought this specifically to be able to sync/charge FROM the cradle.
One last thing, don't think about using the cradle if you have a skin or a hard case on the phone. The connector is so flush with the back of the charging stand that if you try to put anything BUT the phone into the stand it can't connect.
EDIT: December 5, 2009:
Been in touch with the vendor. They are going to swap out this unit for another one. They say that the unit doesn't do this at their site and that this one may be defective. I'll gladly swap this one out for one that works as unstated or at least expected. I'll post when I've gotten the new unit if this is actually a defective first unit or if this is the actual way these units work. And, I'll also try this on multiple machines so that I know it's not just my home desktop.
Another bad cradle from ebay DELUXE CRADLE W/2nd Battery Slot FOR HTC TOUCH PRO 2
When AC plugged in and USB to PC the PC USB sucks the power so the phone charges slow or not at all. Also doenst seem safe for the USB to send the power back out to the PC from the cheapo AC plug in this cradle. When used as a standalone charger AC only it sometimes fails to charge, about a 50-50 success rate. Stay away from it.
That's good info. It is the exact cradle I bought, but i bought it just for charging. I have not used it for connecting to the PC yet, but i needed a cradle that had a slot for a battery in it too.
wpbear said:
Another bad cradle from ebay DELUXE CRADLE W/2nd Battery Slot FOR HTC TOUCH PRO 2
When AC plugged in and USB to PC the PC USB sucks the power so the phone charges slow or not at all. Also doenst seem safe for the USB to send the power back out to the PC from the cheapo AC plug in this cradle. When used as a standalone charger AC only it sometimes fails to charge, about a 50-50 success rate. Stay away from it.
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That the one I have as well. I also have not use it for my computer.. All I really wanted was a cradle for my nightstand that had an additional battery charging slot as I also bought some of those $10 200mah batteries to try (have not received them yet)
dahauss said:
That the one I have as well. I also have not use it for my computer.. All I really wanted was a cradle for my nightstand that had an additional battery charging slot as I also bought some of those $10 200mah batteries to try (have not received them yet)
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200mA or 2000mA? Got a link please? Sorry for off topic.
jonrobertd said:
200mA or 2000mA? Got a link please? Sorry for off topic.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390130739877
2000mah
I purchased this cradle and my complaint has to do with the USB cable that is attached to cradle. I need a long line to reach back of my PC. This attached one does not reach unless I want to view the phone from 5' away! Very disappointed. I've only had it a few days but didn't know this, sanjsrik:
What is NOT explained here is that the unit when plugged IN to a wall jack AND the sync charge cable is plugged in to your computer, the sync/charge cable gets no more power from the wall jack and wants to get it from ONLY the sync/charge USB cable."
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It does seem slow to charge but I'll run a couple of tests to confirm.
hi,
I've got a couple of micro usb car chargers I bought to charge my old samsungs.... but they dont charge my X10.
I've shorted pins 2 and 3 on one of them( d+ and d-) as per this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696760&page=2
but it's still not charging my x10, if anything the battery is being drained quicker when plugged in to the car charger
the label states the output on the charger i have shorted is 4.2- 10v @ 600mA, 750mA max
is there something I am missing?
edit: I've read some of the charging threads and discovered the li-poly battery protection circuit is stopping my cheap chargers from working, so it looks like I need to buy genuine sony (Sony an300), I wonder if this is deliberate on sony's part? I thought the whole point of standardising phone chargers to micro usb - is so that they don't go to waste every time you buy a new phone?
I found that using the original micro USB cable (Or a good quality one) and one of these -> Car USB Outlet works better than buying an adapter with the cable already attached.
Such was the case with my X1 and X2 as well.
These newer gen ones are around 700mA instead of 500mA.
Here's another version -> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Black-USB-Car...bleAudio_MP3PlayerCarKits&hash=item3eff8f9886
Hi
I have one of these from Blue unplugged. go to blueunplugged dot com. in the quickcode type 139166. It is a 'Santok STK Car Charger With 1A USB Port'
I worked on my old X1 and with a micro usb cable it works on my X10 too.
I previously had a different device. It got very hot when I was on the phone and using satnav. This one is great. Its not missed a beat.
I think this is the cable, Quickcode 138344. Please check before purchasing though!
sorry can't post URLs.
regards
Sinet2020
I use my Motorola car charger and it works fine when my phone has some juice left in the battery. the first time I tried to use it the battery was completely flat and the charger would not work well, though
mtechfan said:
I found that using the original micro USB cable (Or a good quality one) and one of these -> USB Outlet works better than buying an adapter with the cable already attached.
Such was the case with my X1 and X2 as well.
These newer gen ones are around 700mA instead of 500mA.
Here's another version ->
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I bought that one, and it doesn't work with my X10. I have tried other USB devices, and the charger works.
After contacting the vendor (e-cell) they are going to send me another unit, free of charges. But I am not sure if it will work, either.
mtechfan said:
These newer gen ones are around 700mA instead of 500mA.
Here's another version -> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Black-USB-Car...bleAudio_MP3PlayerCarKits&hash=item3eff8f9886
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I bought one the other week to try, it doesn't work with the standard SE cable.
The light on the actual plug comes on but nothing indicates it being plugged in on the phone itself.
I've found no 3rd party in-car chargers work with the X10 and after reading all the problems people had here, I just went and bought an official Sony Ericsson one of eBay for £15. Works perfectly
I think you have to have one that has an output of exactly 700 mAp.
I've tested with higher and lower amperage and nothing worked.
I grabbed an SE AN300 off Play.com and it works with no issue. Looks like I made a trouble-free choice.
Hey y'all,
I was in the AT&T store the other day getting a replacement for my wall charger (it died and they replaced it under the warranty, nice guys) and they told me not to use any other USB cable with my phone because the Motorola one is special.
They say it charges faster and maybe does other things better too, although they didn't really say what else. Is there any truth to this, or were they just trying to sell more cables?
they are trying to sell more cables...
I got a cable from ebay for my car with a 90 degree tip so i can charge the phone while using it as a navigation device. it surely wasn't a Motorola cable but works great. I have also used other peoples chargers and cables, I think I had an issue only once where I borrowed the cable from a friend and the cable didn't want to charge, don't know what that was about, didn't play with it enough to figure it out, may have been a defective cable. but basically it comes down to, the charger is putting out 5 volts, if the cable carries all 5 volts to the device and doesn't loose any, it will work fine. Also there are only 2 pins in the cable that are used for charging, one for (-) and one for (+). those pins are all the same for every usb charger or a computer. also phones with that type connector are wired to receive the charge only through those 2 pins. Thus, all of them are made the same. The only thing that manufacturers will do is change the gauge of the wire being used in the cable, but with a 3 foot long cable, and only 1amp of power maximum traveling through it, it just doesn't matter
hope I was some kind of help to you...
Hey! I was also thinking that in my mind but couldn't express. I thought everyone will think I'm getting crazy! Buy my atrix full charges in just 1.5/1.45 hours with the Motorola's Official Wall Charger & USB Cable. I haven't seen any phone that charges that fast! The battery backup of this phone is awesome! 2days with moderate use & 4.5 days with normal use. Aweomeeeeeee!
I use the Factory cable at home, and an old Blackberry cable at work. No difference in the USB cables performance.
Hi,
Yes, nothing magic...
The Motorola wall plug is 850mA output, a PC USB port is UP TO 500mA and for example the IPhone one (square one) is 1000mA.
So the charging time will be shorter with the IPhone one, then the Motorola and finally the USB port.
As I have already say in another thread, I have connect the +5V of my power supply directly on the USB port, so now, no problem !
Now you know !
Does anyone know if there is an official 2m USB cable available in the UK? I bought a generic one off eBay, but it charges the phone extremely slowly....
I use the 2m cable that came with my kindle 3 and it works as well as the original one
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Are you charging the phone from a USB port? If so, it's the limitation of the port, not the cable. Try with a proper charger an it should charge at a more sensible pace.
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Charging speed doesn't depend on the cable but on the charger it is used with.
anthon said:
I use the 2m cable that came with my kindle 3 and it works as well as the original one
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I'm afraid it doesn't work as well for me. I got a Kindle 3 cable, and while it does charge the phone (using the charger which came with the phone), it does it very slowly. So slowly that if I try to use the phone even for basic tasks whilst charging with it the battery still keeps heading south.
If I use the stupidly short cable that came with the phone it charges nice and quick, but every other cable I have used so far either doesn't charge or does so very slowly.
Any ideas as to why this would be?
On a related note, this sounds good, but again the cable looks stupidly short:
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/accessories/quick-charger-ep851/
What are you using to charge your phone? An EP-800 or something else? I have a cheap 1500ma charger that seems to take ages to charge my Xperia. The cause was that for a full speed charge, pins 2 and 3 must be bridged. I dismantled the charger and put a tiny blob of solder on the usb port pins. It now charges like a demon.
Same story with my car charger. Before the mod I could actually lose charge when using satnav and streaming music over bluetooth.
I have a battery widget that says whether I am on AC charging or USB charging. Its name eludes me.
Oh, and a safer alternative may be to sacrifice a USB cable and bridge the pins on that.
Better than all those though is the official Blackberry Playbook charger. 2A and a long cable. Charges the phone like nothing else.
Yep, am using an EP-800.
Fortunately the latest cable I ordered works a treat, so I can happily recommend this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007OWH65Y/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
Rabangus said:
I'm afraid it doesn't work as well for me. I got a Kindle 3 cable, and while it does charge the phone (using the charger which came with the phone), it does it very slowly. So slowly that if I try to use the phone even for basic tasks whilst charging with it the battery still keeps heading south.
If I use the stupidly short cable that came with the phone it charges nice and quick, but every other cable I have used so far either doesn't charge or does so very slowly.
Any ideas as to why this would be?
On a related note, this sounds good, but again the cable looks stupidly short:
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/accessories/quick-charger-ep851/
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Double the length, double the resistance of the wire. Assuming the have the same cross-sectional area.