SnesGo is another PocketSNES variant with extensive optimizations and bug fixes. It runs much faster than any other PocketSNES ports.
Just uploaded the first alpha version to http://sites.google.com/site/snesgo/ . Grab it, give it a run and post your thoughts here.
Note it still relies on GAPI and doesn't support raw framebuffer or DirectDraw yet, which means no good support for VGA devices for now.
Good job.
Thank you very much.
Nice ;-) I'll test it when it gets wvga support
Can't wait to test it on WVGA!!
HTC Cruise
Testing in my cruise and its really fast. I try only megaman X, and its seem that runs at normal speed. With other emulators this game run always slow.
hmm.. another pocketsnes line emu(that's ok in general)..
why autoframeskip is fixed and i am not able to unchecked this option?
when turned off it helps to measure real speed of emulator...
although works fine on 400 mhz xscale(what is rather normal), hard to compare with snesvj4u and other psnes versions, seems ok.
stretched landscape seems to be slower a bit than in psnes by n0p(xscale optimized).
humm.... don't get me wrong buddy, good emu is always appreciated, but if You have the skills then why don't You try to write decent GBA emulator???? correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that there is a bigger demand for one and many people are even willing to pay. am I right??
same as for Amiga emu...
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humm.... don't get me wrong buddy, good emu is always appreciated, but if You have the skills then why don't You try to write decent GBA emulator???? correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that there is a bigger demand for one and many people are even willing to pay. am I right??
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This one was actually done about 5-6 years ago (also the reason why there're only optimizations but not VGA support). I just recently picked it up again and decided to make a public release.
While it's relatively easy to write an SNES emulator running on 400-600Mhz ARM CPUs that can emulate most games at full speed, GBA is completely another story. Its graphics hardware is in some degree similar to SNES but you'll need some real horse power to emulate its own ARM CPU - emulating a 32bit RISC CPU in interpreter is a totally different story compared to emulating the 65816 of SNES. To make it short, you need a decent JIT compiler (or dynarec, whatever you call it) for that.
And BTW, most emulator authors don't write emulators for money - keep in mind it's a very gray area. One good example I recall is VGS, the very well written PS1 emulator done by the Virtual PC folks, that was sued by Sony and forced to be brought down.
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hmm.. another pocketsnes line emu(that's ok in general)..
why autoframeskip is fixed and i am not able to unchecked this option?
when turned off it helps to measure real speed of emulator...
although works fine on 400 mhz xscale(what is rather normal), hard to compare with snesvj4u and other psnes versions, seems ok.
stretched landscape seems to be slower a bit than in psnes by n0p(xscale optimized).
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Try enable audio emulation and compare again
It's yet another PocketSNES port but with completely new CPU emulation core. You don't really need to disable auto frameskip to measure its real speed - it doesn't limit the frame rate but is there for keep the game run at 100% speed by sacrificing some frames when the device is not fast enough.
If you really want to measure the "real" speed, you can just set the Max frameskip ("Frameksip" in other PocketSNES ports) to 0 and make a side by side comparison. With this setting the emulator doesn't skip any frame so you got all your frames but if the CPU is not fast enough you end up with a slow motion game anyway.
i like what you wrote - seems you know the thing
had a little time for testing, so i just shared my own first impressions..
your build seems to be very good if we need 100%(of snes) speed, fluid speed gaming, with synced sound. emulation of real snes experience
good job, as it was hard to weight cpu/sound priorities in other ones..
but:
frameskip thing
You don't really need to disable auto frameskip to measure its real speed
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psnes is kind of benchmarker for my roms - with fs off - tests on chrono trigger and earhbound says everything for me(one of the heaviest engines) - main point - fluidity over fps, of course..;
in real life fs off is just time-saver while using fast machine for me(faster gaming = good idea) - xscale optimized versions of psnes are able to maintain good sound quality while's fs off(sound interpolation OFF, for all n0p psnes versions, always, 44 khz, 16 bit hq in general) even while underclocked to 300 mhz. on 206 mhz it is still faster, than original with sound off, and perfectly fluid.
things may be entirely different for samsung/ompas cpus(masterall's snes emu is optimal).
interesting, how it behaves on these?
your emu seems to be xscale optimized, if it's not, it may be very good version for these cpus, as samsung/omap optimized emus ar MUCH slower on xscale machines than yours.
Have to admit, not a mario fan, Sonic only...
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But a emu is a emu, thanks you very much.
I wonder when will emus from better consoles start being created?
Sega CD, Dreamcast, n-gage, n64...
where do you find games for this?
Nice to see emu development in the platform. I came from the PSP and NDS scene before I ever bought a ppc and was kind of sad to see that most emulator projects were old and frozen/dead...
Have one request:
Would it be possible to add on-screen buttons to the landscape display in widescreen devices (WVGA and WQVGA)? Something like in this image:
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Have to admit, not a mario fan, Sonic only...
But a emu is a emu, thanks you very much.
I wonder when will emus from better consoles start being created?
Sega CD, Dreamcast, n-gage, n64...
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Sega CD might be possible i doubt it, dreamcast not possible( its crawling on a psp wich has a 1000000 times better cpu/video card, the thing about the dreamcast its that the cpu/video card/sound card are all in one single chip), n-gage maybe, n64 its possible but it needs a couple of daring programmers to achieve this monumental 64bit emulation on a 32bit platform.
And btw rlei the emu its working flawlessly on my blue angel, it runs fast and smooth without having to overclock my device.
I only got one problem I think its a bug anyway while playing Chrono Trigger both the phone and emulator frezzes am using a HTC Prophet the game plays good on it with out ever needing to overclock the Device thanks alot but can you please fix this frezzing problem thanks Great emulator not all we need is a redo of PoketGBA and am happy lol
patiently waiting for VGA/smartphone port, cant wait to test it on my tornado
Just did a quick test with donkey kong country 2 on a trinity and it runs near perfect with good sounds, a lot better than morphgear for me. Thanks a lot, its a great emu i will be testing further later on.
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I only got one problem I think its a bug anyway while playing Chrono Trigger both the phone and emulator frezzes am using a HTC Prophet the game plays good on it with out ever needing to overclock the Device thanks alot but can you please fix this frezzing problem thanks Great emulator not all we need is a redo of PoketGBA and am happy lol
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Could you please give more details about the freezing?
1. Your WM version (5, 6, 6.1, etc)
2. The steps to reproduce the freezing
3. Is there any other application running while you encounter the problem?
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Nice to see emu development in the platform. I came from the PSP and NDS scene before I ever bought a ppc and was kind of sad to see that most emulator projects were old and frozen/dead...
Have one request:
Would it be possible to add on-screen buttons to the landscape display in widescreen devices (WVGA and WQVGA)? Something like in this image:
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It's what in my mind too - maybe in 0.9.
One sad thing is, however, some of today's touch screen drivers seem to be very CPU hungry. I can always observe a huge FPS drop in SnesGo or any other emulator by just touching the screen using my Kaiser + WM6.5 ROM.
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Andreno 220 doesnt beat tegra in real world performance, benchmarks are bias, ive tried n64oid on my phone and n64oid on my buddies tegra 2 atrix, mario kart stutters as well as sound on evo 3d, ive tried multi roms, atrix runs sound and game perfect, no sound issues or stuttering gameplay, goldeneye runs like crap on evo where atrix is running full speed, both phones non rooted or oc'd. Gameloft games run good on andreno 220 like nova 2 and spiderman, modern combat 2 runs great but not n64oid, i thought this be a stepup from evo 4g which did the same, my only answer is snapdragon cpu sucks with emulators cause ive heard emu run off cpu. What really pisses me off is theirs guys on here saying mariokart runs flawless on evo 3d but it runs stuttery on my phone, qnd im not a noob ive had cm7 on my evo 4g so being rooted increase performance but theirs no root for 3d evo yet so what gives, ik running n64oid v1.1.4 :.......... Any help would be great ive seen vids of htc desire hd running mariokart perfect and its not even dual core is their a setting im missing ive tried max frame skip on 10 and on 0
Congratz on on your first post...HATER
Funny, I'm not really having the lagging issues. I'll get a random stutter from time to time, but I've seen that on every phone, regardless of chipset.
Can you try to get a logcat going while you are playing so we can see what may be causing it, maybe an app syncing or something.
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Andreno 220 doesnt beat tegra in real world performance, benchmarks are bias, ive tried n64oid on my phone and n64oid on my buddies tegra 2 atrix, mario kart stutters as well as sound on evo 3d, ive tried multi roms, atrix runs sound and game perfect, no sound issues or stuttering gameplay, goldeneye runs like crap on evo where atrix is running full speed, both phones non rooted or oc'd. Gameloft games run good on andreno 220 like nova 2 and spiderman, modern combat 2 runs great but not n64oid, i thought this be a stepup from evo 4g which did the same, my only answer is snapdragon cpu sucks with emulators cause ive heard emu run off cpu. What really pisses me off is theirs guys on here saying mariokart runs flawless on evo 3d but it runs stuttery on my phone, qnd im not a noob ive had cm7 on my evo 4g so being rooted increase performance but theirs no root for 3d evo yet so what gives, ik running n64oid v1.1.4 :.......... Any help would be great ive seen vids of htc desire hd running mariokart perfect and its not even dual core is their a setting im missing ive tried max frame skip on 10 and on 0
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so what your saying that it sucks ONLY for emulators? because i havent tried them but for everything else i say it works flawlessly.
n64oid doesn't care what gpu you are using.
That's interesting to hear. I may have to try it out. Mario Kart ran really smooth on my Epic.
I think you failed to mention that the dev of the N64oid said hell update the app to take advantage of the dual core. Its the app not the phone.
Anyways as with most trolls, opinions always trump the facts.
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Andreno 220 doesnt beat tegra in real world performance, benchmarks are bias, ive tried n64oid on my phone and n64oid on my buddies tegra 2 atrix, mario kart stutters as well as sound on evo 3d, ive tried multi roms, atrix runs sound and game perfect, no sound issues or stuttering gameplay, goldeneye runs like crap on evo where atrix is running full speed, both phones non rooted or oc'd. Gameloft games run good on andreno 220 like nova 2 and spiderman, modern combat 2 runs great but not n64oid, i thought this be a stepup from evo 4g which did the same, my only answer is snapdragon cpu sucks with emulators cause ive heard emu run off cpu. What really pisses me off is theirs guys on here saying mariokart runs flawless on evo 3d but it runs stuttery on my phone, qnd im not a noob ive had cm7 on my evo 4g so being rooted increase performance but theirs no root for 3d evo yet so what gives, ik running n64oid v1.1.4 :.......... Any help would be great ive seen vids of htc desire hd running mariokart perfect and its not even dual core is their a setting im missing ive tried max frame skip on 10 and on 0
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Go buy an Atrix? Yeah, sounds good to me.
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3vo. That is all that needs be said.
Get out of here Samsung fan boy, spreading your lies and deceptions. Your 1 post isn't fooling any of us so GTFO!
Edit: June 30th 2011, haha. Did you really subscribe just to say that BS on this forum? You are pathetic.
Im not a hatet i love my 3vo and old evo 4g im just angry cause my buddies lower tech phone runs n64oid perfect and the new gpu which they claim trumps the tegra 2 by 7% im not seeing it on my phone, which is why im asking if its something else thats wrong, so if anybody can test id really appreciate it, u can download free apk at slideme just google it so reply back with results, maybe his emu isnt good with andreno gpus
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Im not a hatet i love my 3vo and old evo 4g im just angry cause my buddies lower tech phone runs n64oid perfect and the new gpu which they claim trumps the tegra 2 by 7% im not seeing it on my phone, which is why im asking if its something else thats wrong, so if anybody can test id really appreciate it, u can download free apk at slideme just google it so reply back with results, maybe his emu isnt good with andreno gpus
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So instead of simply just asking for help, you have to give all this extra input of how terrible the GPU is. hmmmmmmm, GL with that help, but #1 I don't do N64, never owned one (I will be doing PSX this weekend). #2 I dont like your method, but maybe others will help.
Does the emulator even use the gpu? Why not do a test with something that does!
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Dont these emulators not even use the gpu?
Gotta put up with idiots like this, OP when bringing up issues with the beloved 3D.
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Im not a hatet i love my 3vo and old evo 4g im just angry cause my buddies lower tech phone runs n64oid perfect and the new gpu which they claim trumps the tegra 2 by 7% im not seeing it on my phone, which is why im asking if its something else thats wrong, so if anybody can test id really appreciate it, u can download free apk at slideme just google it so reply back with results, maybe his emu isnt good with andreno gpus
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The Atrix is a lower tech phone by... the SMALLEST of percentages. 7%?. you realize that isn't 70% right?
Atrix is a dual core as well, it's not "low tech" by any means.
also, been out long enough for the developer of N64roid to probably, I dunno, update his app to work better with that one.
give it some time, it's a brand new phone and needs to be updated for. patiences
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So instead of simply just asking for help, you have to give all this extra input of how terrible the GPU is. hmmmmmmm, GL with that help, but #1 I don't do N64, never owned one (I will be doing PSX this weekend). #2 I dont like your method, but maybe others will help.
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I don't like your method either. It's pretty f'n annoying.
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Gotta put up with idiots like this, OP when bringing up issues with the beloved 3D.
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Accept it isn't an issue... it uses cpu not gpu, and it hasn't been updated to support our phones. so.
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Gotta put up with idiots like this, OP when bringing up issues with the beloved 3D.
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Yea I'm the idiot cause he came in here spewing crap instead of asking for someones assistance on the matter. I think Toxic pretty much summed it up in his post. Nothing else to say on this matter. Someone is more than welcome to help him out, I just think he went about it wrong. End of story.
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I don't like your method either. It's pretty f'n annoying.
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Your annoying, haha
BTW I'm sorry I annoyed you. Is there anything I can do to gain your forgiveness?
But why?!?
The Qualcomm CPU should kick ass. (Granted, it might not be faster than the Exynos in SGII but it shouldn't be MUCH slower) The GPU is also on par, if not faster than the Mali and Tegra GPU...
So why do my Benchmark scores kinda suck? My Tegra2 powered 7 inch tablet usually gets way better scores than my Evo3D... On some benchmarks it's even noticably behind LG Optimus 2X and similar phones that it should be AT LEAST on par with, if not faster...
Is it only the ROM that's at fault here or what's going on? What benchmark scores do the rest of you get? Smartbench, Antutu, Quadrant, CF Bench and all the rest of them?
(And yes, the phone is smooth enough in everyday use. And benchmarks don't mean everything, but it DOES mean something...)
It only means anything if all you do is bench testing on your phone. Try play games, watch films and take some picture with youe phone instead.
The mal 400 is way faster than anything else in android phones.
Never the less, nothing comes close to taxing the 3d processor or go. So don't worry about benches.
What more do you really need out of EVO3D benches to see that with the right ROM, and not having 46 widgets and livewallpaper running in the background, you can get some pretty nice scores:
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Various roms, kernels, no telling really what at the time, but pretty much in line. There's something wrong with the Rom you're on, or your setup if you can't get good benches with this phone, IMHO.
What ROM, kernel, are you running, and what's a 'bad' score in your book?
<<Robotron 2084 = Perfection>>
I love it when people jizz over benchmark scores. Like justj said, try some apps, games, and movies. If they run fantastically, then you're phone is running great, and you don't need to worry about silly benchmark numbers.
Real Use >>>>>>> Benchmarks
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What ROM, kernel, are you running, and what's a 'bad' score in your book?
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Ah, thank you... I'll turn off everything but the benchmarking app, and get back to you with the scores... As for "bad score" well, I'd expect it to beat my tablet (Tegra2, 1024*600 resolution) as well as the LG 2X, Atrix, Optimus 3D, and most of the newer phones on the market, really. Which it at present doesn't do. It gets beaten by the Nexus S in some benchmarks!
Video and games and so on run pretty fast and smooth, so overall I'm happy and don't place TOO much weight on benchmarks. I just find it odd, because benchmarks to certain degree DO reflect real world performance.
I'll get back to you with scores and which ROM etc. Off the top of my head, I remember it's running 2.3.4 Rogers ROM...
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Ah, thank you... I'll turn off everything but the benchmarking app, and get back to you with the scores... As for "bad score" well, I'd expect it to beat my tablet (Tegra2, 1024*600 resolution) as well as the LG 2X, Atrix, Optimus 3D, and most of the newer phones on the market, really. Which it at present doesn't do. It gets beaten by the Nexus S in some benchmarks!
Video and games and so on run pretty fast and smooth, so overall I'm happy and don't place TOO much weight on benchmarks. I just find it odd, because benchmarks to certain degree DO reflect real world performance.
I'll get back to you with scores and which ROM etc. Off the top of my head, I remember it's running 2.3.4 Rogers ROM...
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Didn't know you had a GSM phone.... Those are capped at 80% of potential speed by the Canadian Government.
(Nah, j/k).
Good luck on outbenchmarking the LG2X... (you'll need it). Benchmarks can't save a bad phone, but if they could, that's where they'd start. I've seen multiple screens from multiple Lg2x users running CM7 with Quadrant Standard scores of over 5K. That's insane.
We'll probably never see that on an EVO3D, but it doesn't matter, because ultimately, the LG2X isn't half the phone at the end of the day.
Just my 2 cents.
Edit: If your tablet happens to be a Viewsonic Gtab, well, forget that notion as well. That basically is at the top of every benchmark 'top scores' list.
I've got one.
Is it fast?
Incredibly fast.
Would I trade it right now for a "slower" tablet that was a "better" tablet?
You betcha.
Righty o...
I could always upload screenshots later if you think that might be a good idea, but here are some scores:
Antutu: 4442, which puts it behind both the S2, the Optimus 2X and the Motorola Xoom (!?!)
Nenamark 2 reported a somewhat respectable 25.6.
Smartbench 2011 (Supposedly the only benchmark suite that takes dualcore into consideration): Productivity: 2397 Games: 1650
(Which is behind the Transformer Tab and Atrix in both categories, and even behind the Nexus S and Galaxy S in Games)
Quadrant:1491 (Just ahead of Moto Droid X and Nexus One at 1250!)
Devicemark: 1325 (Equal to Desire HD, but behind the Atrix and LG 2X)
CF Bench: 8740, 1364, 4314 (Way behind both the Atrix and the Sensation?!)
I think that's it as far as the benchmarks I ran. I can upload the screenshots if you think it might help. As for the phone, it's a Rogers phone with the 2.3.4 Gingerbread, HTC software: 1.20.631.2
(BTW: What does "SMP PREEMPT" mean in the Kernel version?!?)
And no, the tablet is an Iconia A100. Zippy little thing, though I don't understand how it can run corners around my Evo with a Tegra CPU and more pixels to push...
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I could always upload screenshots later if you think that might be a good idea, but here are some scores:
Antutu: 4442, which puts it behind both the S2, the Optimus 2X and the Motorola Xoom (!?!)
Nenamark 2 reported a somewhat respectable 25.6.
Smartbench 2011 (Supposedly the only benchmark suite that takes dualcore into consideration): Productivity: 2397 Games: 1650
(Which is behind the Transformer Tab and Atrix in both categories, and even behind the Nexus S and Galaxy S in Games)
Quadrant:1491 (Just ahead of Moto Droid X and Nexus One at 1250!)
Devicemark: 1325 (Equal to Desire HD, but behind the Atrix and LG 2X)
CF Bench: 8740, 1364, 4314 (Way behind both the Atrix and the Sensation?!)
I think that's it as far as the benchmarks I ran. I can upload the screenshots if you think it might help. As for the phone, it's a Rogers phone with the 2.3.4 Gingerbread, HTC software: 1.20.631.2
(BTW: What does "SMP PREEMPT" mean in the Kernel version?!?)
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There is something seriously wrong. The least you should be getting is around 2000-2500.
Yeah, I turned off background apps, etc. What scores do people with the Rogers ROM usually get? Would backing up and then a full restore to factory settings help?
I'm rooted btw, but didn't install an alternate rom.
No question that the gs2 benches well but after having one for a couple days I missed my 3d..I trade benches for a smooth and usable UI ..but ocd I can beat the gs2 in every bench app there is ..I never felt the supposed increase in speed that the epic has ..the 3d opened my apps faster and was more stable using games that utilized the gyro ie homerun baseball 3d ..almost unplayable on the gs2..our phones have plenty of power either way we have plenty of power on tap
Nope. Quadrant seems about right from what I remember with the Rogers ROM. Not much better with LeeDroid either.
Might have to do with the inability of GSM devs to tweak the kernel and overclock as HTC messed up the board files in the kernel sources they released for the GSM.
This is what I've got with aosp oc...
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And no, the tablet is an Iconia A100. Zippy little thing, though I don't understand how it can run corners around my Evo with a Tegra CPU and more pixels to push...
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Oooh... I'm VERY interested in the A100... I'm actually going to Best Buy today, as they finally have them in stock @~300$... But they have the Flyer as well at the same price...
The a100 IS sporting a dual-core Tegra2 A9 processor, is it not?
And since HC 3.2 in a brand-new device is probably optimized better, speed-wise, I, for one, would expect it to out-perform the 3d in a benchmark test, even @ 1000Mhz.
How do you like the A100, overall?
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No, you kinda lost, because you made anyone who might be interested download a dropbox file instead of just doing this:
EDIT: WHOOPS, Sorry dude... If I had noticed you were using drocap or whatever I would've understood your need to dropbox it.
Some of those market screenshot apps just do not work. Native screenshot works fine for me..END EDIT.
(whatevs, no biggie, lol.. Nice scores.. Which Rom/kernel combo is that, if you don't mind me asking?
I'm gonna just guess and say that's an OC'd aosp rom.
Yes?
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I actually really like it! When I was in the store, I let all the tablets do a sunspider test, and the A100 actually came out ahead of everybody, even the iPad2, so it IS a zippy little fella.
Anything in particular you'd like to know? The two cameras are just fine, the few times I used them for anything else than a webcam, they did the job fine.
Speakers are great and really loud. The screen is a bit on the dim side, but turning off the auto light in settings take care of that. It's really comfortable to hold, even for extended periods of time, even if the plastic might make it feel and look less than a premium product.
Batterylife is kinda meh, I usually don't get more than 5 hours out of it, but then again it's pretty rare that I take it somewhere where there isn't a charger around. The only thing I can think off that would require your tab to be on for 5 hours is a plane trip, and even most of those have chargers these days
The only caveat I would have, is that as a Evo3D owner a 7 inch screen might be a bit too small. I mean the difference between 7 and 4.3 inches isn't that big in daily use, and after getting the Evo I kinda find the 7 inch screen a bit on the small side. Might just be me though. If I had to choose any tablet today, I think I'd go for the Galaxy. The 10 inch size is just right, and it weighs pretty much the same as the A100, and since getting a tablet I've found out that weight means more in terms of portability than just size.
The only other thing I've found to be annoying would probably also apply to the Flyer: There aren't too many tablet apps available as it is, and the few tablet apps there are, aren't always compatible with 7 inch tabs. There are way more apps and games available for 10 inch tablets.
Oh yeah, one more thing: The A100 is super easy too root. Took me like 5 mins. But the support for it is pretty poor. There's like no ROMs available for it at all, which I find really weird. Not yet anyways, but hopefully it'll gain some devs...
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Oh yeah, one more thing: The A100 is super easy too root. Took me like 5 mins. But the support for it is pretty poor. There's like no ROMs available for it at all, which I find really weird. Not yet anyways, but hopefully it'll gain some devs...
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BTW, I posted this somewhere else, and you may already know this trick, but if you wanna "revert your UI to Gingerbread" on an HC tablet (I did.... Just not into HC yet), and since you've already rooted, if you change your density to 171 (or above) , it will revert the ui to GB, (something you might be more used to, or like better) , while maintaining compatibility with those 3.0 apps.
<<work in progress>>
New update has come today and what is much important for us with support to our Primes ))))
https://play.google.com/store/apps/....android.ANMP.GloftMMHM&feature=search_result
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Ye I see it xD Now avable for stocks not only for eos rom! It works flawlessy on virtous rom vith moltey kernel.
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is this a fun game?
Best android MMOrpg.
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One and only real mmorpg!
Ok...back to Virtuous tomorrow
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Can anyone find out if it has gamepad support?
Is anyone else getting stutters while playing this game? Not quite sure why but I think it's down to lack of CPU power or they've set the graphics settings too high.
They occur using Motley's and SnB's kernels on the stock rom.
The game does not run as smooth as it should given all the power Tegra 3 has, but it does not stutters here.
I think the game is just not optimized for Tegra, I have seen videos of the game running on less powerful CPUs and it runs better than how it runs using the Prime.
The game runs at something like 20/25 fps.
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Is anyone else getting stutters while playing this game? Not quite sure why but I think it's down to lack of CPU power or they've set the graphics settings too high.
They occur using Motley's and SnB's kernels on the stock rom.
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It is not lack of CPU/GPU power, have you seen what Tegra 3 is actually capable of running? Mostlikely just not optimized for Tegra 3.
Crappy gameloft....Teyy dont know how to optymalise games for multiple-core devices....
Not that bad guys as you describe this. Sometimes lil lags but few things are better like:
- collision detection
- resolution
- lights, shadows, water effect
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The game does not run as smooth as it should given all the power Tegra 3 has, but it does not stutters here.
I think the game is just not optimized for Tegra, I have seen videos of the game running on less powerful CPUs and it runs better than how it runs using the Prime.
The game runs at something like 20/25 fps.
It is not lack of CPU/GPU power, have you seen what Tegra 3 is actually capable of running? Mostlikely just not optimized for Tegra 3.
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Yea, was thinking that too. It does look amazing but it clearly needs optimizing. Walking over a hill (causing the gpu to render a new landscape) causes it to stutter for a few seconds :/
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Yea, was thinking that too. It does look amazing but it clearly needs optimizing. Walking over a hill (causing the gpu to render a new landscape) causes it to stutter for a few seconds :/
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That will always happen, specially with the low I/O Speeds our Primes have.
Not that bad guys as you describe this. Sometimes lil lags but few things are better like:
- collision detection
- resolution
- lights, shadows, water effect
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I never said it was bad I said it wasn't how it should really be. Other games with WAY, WAY better graphics run on the Prime at 60 FPS on Balanced mode (Most of the time even with the CPU under clocked at only 1 GHz.
Lets hope Gameloft optimizes the game for Tegra 3 anytime soon In the meantime I'm really enjoying the game ^^
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Just got this waiting for it to finish the download looks awesome enough... anyone have some noob tips as in good servers and what nots ?
On another note captcha really blows lol
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Server Stone Island is a good place to start really peaceful...
After lvl 30 you can change to any other.
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HTC One X+ Hands On Review Gaming
For sure a good upgrade of htc one x and a good phone. HTC <3
Am I missing something here, most games run badly on my x+, there is stuttering and lag in games like Rayman, Granny Smith, Oscura...and Need For Speed is terrible, for a so called super fast processor I am not too impressed.
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Am I missing something here, most games run badly on my x+, there is stuttering and lag in games like Rayman, Granny Smith, Oscura...and Need For Speed is terrible, for a so called super fast processor I am not too impressed.
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Maybe the power saving mode is on?
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Maybe the power saving mode is on?
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Even with my power saving mode on, and there is a I lag at all when playing any games (Need for Speed, Tiger Woods, Dead Space etc)
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Even with my power saving mode on, and there is a I lag at all when playing any games (Need for Speed, Tiger Woods, Dead Space etc)
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You mean even with power saving mode off?
I am experiencing lags on Dead Trigger.
Power Saver off, with it on I feel it's kind of normal to have lag
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I am experiencing lags on Dead Trigger.
Power Saver off, with it on I feel it's kind of normal to have lag
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Got zero lag in Dead trigger, tho I got major fps issues with Asphalt 7
Hope we will get some custom kernels when source is out.
We had this problem with the original one x too, its due to the gpu clock being synchronized with the cpu clock. that means that if the cpu load it high, per say a tegrazone game like shadowgun, then the gpu scales up as well alowing for fluid gameplay even with detailed graphics. However this also means that when the cpu load is light, i.e temple run, the gpu will hardly scale at all implying that the phone will lag with simple games like doodle jump but not graphics heavy games like dead trigger. Games like asphalt 7 lag because the game probably only uses 1 or 2 core, thus the gpu is only at aroung %50 power. Hamdir found a way to run the gpu independently but we`ll have to wait for proper root and custom recovery for that.
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We had this problem with the original one x too, its due to the gpu clock being synchronized with the cpu clock. that means that if the cpu load it high, per say a tegrazone game like shadowgun, then the gpu scales up as well alowing for fluid gameplay even with detailed graphics. However this also means that when the cpu load is light, i.e temple run, the gpu will hardly scale at all implying that the phone will lag with simple games like doodle jump but not graphics heavy games like dead trigger. Games like asphalt 7 lag because the game probably only uses 1 or 2 core, thus the gpu is only at aroung %50 power. Hamdir found a way to run the gpu independently but we`ll have to wait for proper root and custom recovery for that.
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Thanks for great explanation..so is this fixable and has it been done for the One X already? ( link if poss? ) Been thinking of taking it back due to issues of lag on lower specced games.
never experienced lag on rayman and granny smith in the orginal One X, even in stock, maybe your X+ is throttling?
but ryanjsoo is correct, the problem is the ondemand governor settings
if you have root you can fix most of it, we also made simple app for a quick toggle
then we worked on custom kernels and fixed few more trouble with the CPU
but mostly for low specced games its the governor's fault and in a nutshell the gaming boost app will fix it
gaming boost app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29053431&postcount=68 (requires root, if you have it, use the non stock version because the stock version is limited to the classic One X' 1.5ghz)
we also made a gaming kernel here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33805830&postcount=10399 (list of the specific patches we did, also you dont need GPU520, but a kernel similar can help)
gaming guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664391 (a little outdated now, but tons of info, latest info at the top)
need for speed most wanted is the developer fault, on tegra 3 devices with higher than 1.3ghz speed its not calling the proper Tegra optimization
I fixed it here: Need For Speed Most Wanted v1.0.28 for Android - Tegra 3 performance patch + Multiple effects configuration patch
other modded games are found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845993
also most of Gameloft games have a severe allergy to Tegra (they must hate Nvidia or something)
and finally everything you need to know is in the One X mega information thread
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Am I missing something here, most games run badly on my x+, there is stuttering and lag in games like Rayman, Granny Smith, Oscura...and Need For Speed is terrible, for a so called super fast processor I am not too impressed.
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I am experiencing lags on Dead Trigger.
Power Saver off, with it on I feel it's kind of normal to have lag
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Got zero lag in Dead trigger, tho I got major fps issues with Asphalt 7
Hope we will get some custom kernels when source is out.
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So it sounds like HTC thought they were amazing by coming out with a tegra 3 device, quad core, clocked at 1.7gh, and cannot play efficiently games such as doodle jump, angry birds, etc? WTF??? Basically if it's not a tegra 3 specific game (only a handful out there to begin with) this phone is basically as good as an iphone first generation when it comes to gaming? WTF is HTC thinking? Above that to make this device work the way it should being talked about so much online about how amazing the processor, tegra 3, quad core, blah blah blah is, we need to go far beyond voiding warranty with root and custom kernals? Epic Fail anyone?
Damn, was really looking forward to picking this device up as soon as it came out on ATT but more i actually read about user reviews, the specs on paper mean crap!!!
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hamdir said:
never experienced lag on rayman and granny smith in the orginal One X, even in stock, maybe your X+ is throttling?
but ryanjsoo is correct, the problem is the ondemand governor settings
if you have root you can fix most of it, we also made simple app for a quick toggle
then we worked on custom kernels and fixed few more trouble with the CPU
but mostly for low specced games its the governor's fault and in a nutshell the gaming boost app will fix it
gaming boost app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29053431&postcount=68 (requires root, if you have it, use the non stock version because the stock version is limited to the classic One X' 1.5ghz)
we also made a gaming kernel here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33805830&postcount=10399 (list of the specific patches we did, also you dont need GPU520, but a kernel similar can help)
gaming guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664391 (a little outdated now, but tons of info, latest info at the top)
need for speed most wanted is the developer fault, on tegra 3 devices with higher than 1.3ghz speed its not calling the proper Tegra optimization
I fixed it here: Need For Speed Most Wanted v1.0.28 for Android - Tegra 3 performance patch + Multiple effects configuration patch
other modded games are found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845993
also most of Gameloft games have a severe allergy to Tegra (they must hate Nvidia or something)
and finally everything you need to know is in the One X mega information thread
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Just sucks for an android noob like me to have to go through all the above just to have this device work the way it SHOULD out of the box from HTC? Wow
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Just sucks for an android noob like me to have to go through all the above just to have this device work the way it SHOULD out of the box from HTC? Wow
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well no i was just trying to be helpful and providing you with all info
we actually worked hard to make it super simple
all you need to do is root and one click with the gaming boost app
and like I said games like rayman and granny smith runs 60fps on stock One X
something is wrong in your scenario so don't generalize yet
and its not HTC or Nvidia's fault if gameloft is fighting them...or if EA messed up their tegra version of NFSMW for most T3 devices, which works fine on the Nexus 7
i dont know its part of the trouble with android i guess
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well no i was just trying to be helpful and providing you with all info
we actually worked hard to make it super simple
all you need to do is root and one click with the gaming boost app
and like I said games like rayman and granny smith runs 60fps on stock One X
something is wrong
and its not HTC or Nvidia's fault if gameloft is fighting them...or if EA messed up their tegra version of NFSMW for most T3 devices, which works fine on the Nexus 7
i dont know its part of the trouble with android i guess
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If you can imagine i've just never even used an android device ever and currently using an iphone 4. Waited for the 5 to come out but not impressed with it's specs at all and with no jailbreak that device is completely useless! Did some research and really love what i see in this phone and all the video reviews and what not. Even went to an ATT store to play with the original HOX and liked it. Really looking forward to this when it comes out to ATT in USA.
Just i really game a lot, watch videos, etc with my phone so though this phone would be number 1 in that department but reading more and more stuff like this it sounds like this device is very sub-par when it comes to basic gaming which worries me.
Sorry if i came off rude as there was no intent to the developers on the creation of these hacks, greatly appreciate all their work and time. Just trying to understand what a root is, what a kernal is, etc etc, i think i need a college class on android! Lol. Guess i was spoiled on how easy Apple Ios is and especially all you need is 1 simple jailbreak to unlock it all. Seems there's about 6 different kinds of "jailbreaks" when it comes to android in order to have everything unlocked, root, s-off, custom kernals, etc that i probably still don't even know about. Just trying to learn as much as i can about this stuff but for me it's dang confusing.
As you can see from my sig that last time i was around was the HTC Tilt2 days and wm 6.1 and when basically sense original first came out.
@deeznuts like i said no way it should face trouble running most games
the original complaint came from hawrai68 maybe something is wrong with his set up
Ture, the one x and tegra chip were practically built for gaming, its just that previously not many devices had the tegra soc so not many games are optimized. However recently with the release of the nexus 7 and such, more and more games are supporting tegra including gameloft! the chip itself shouldn`t be the problem and especially with Hamdir here, he`s like a one x prodigy, thanks for your work.
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Ture, the one x and tegra chip were practically built for gaming, its just that previously not many devices had the tegra soc so not many games are optimized. However recently with the release of the nexus 7 and such, more and more games are supporting tegra including gameloft! the chip itself shouldn`t be the problem and especially with Hamdir here, he`s like a one x prodigy, thanks for your work.
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Where have you read that Gameloft supports Tegra? Most of their games lag on Tegra.
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Where have you read that Gameloft supports Tegra? Most of their games lag on Tegra.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Game...-optimized-for-Googles-Nexus-7-tablet_id32493
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especially with Hamdir here, he`s like a one x prodigy, thanks for your work.
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Hats off to hamdir
I find it runs quite well on the device. I would say nearly the speeds I see on my Shield TV making it quite playable. I've only tried a Mario Sunshine, Luigi's Mansion, and New Super Mario Bros so far and while each one had just a touch of audio latency or lag it was certainly not bothersome to me. Score another point in my book for the Yogabook.
Nice ! Are you using an Android or Windows Yoga?
my bad, I am on the Android model. Using the latest nightly build (as of my initial post anyway) of Dolphin at the moment.
Nice that they finally made it work on the Yoga Book.
I'd be curious to hear how well it runs o the Windows version of the tablet?
It doesn't work on my Android book. All I get is a black screen. I tried several versions of the developer builds. Maybe it's because of the new N update or because my ROMs are on a SD card.
i was having that issue initially, not sure what if anything I changed to fix it, but working now on 5.0-5566 build using OpenGL on N 7.1.1
Still a tad slow but playable. Offhand I thought all Android N could do Vulkan? Dolphin crashes with an unsupported error if I try switching to that API
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I'd be curious to hear how well it runs o the Windows version of the tablet?
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It runs surprisingly decent! Not perfect but I enjoyed playing Pikmin 2 and Luigi's Mansion without hardly any issue a week or so ago. In fact I think it would play fairly well if not for thermal throttling. Things start off really well but after 20 or so minutes (depending on the game) it may begin to throttle the CPU.
How to?
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I find it runs quite well on the device. I would say nearly the speeds I see on my Shield TV making it quite playable. I've only tried a Mario Sunshine, Luigi's Mansion, and New Super Mario Bros so far and while each one had just a touch of audio latency or lag it was certainly not bothersome to me. Score another point in my book for the Yogabook.
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Can you make a tutorial for getting vulkan running on the Lenovo yogabook? I have root but not sure how to get vulkan running.
I don't own the Yogabook any longer. As noted though, I never could get vulkan working only opengl would work. I thought vulkan worked with all Android devices but best I gathered is that is only true of ARM type devices. Intel devices need at least the Iris 500 GPU or higher for vulkan support in the Windows world. So wile that's probably true of Android also the Yogabook only has the HD 400 series GPU.