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i would like to do a little poll to see which rom you people find is the best....most stable fastest rom out now im running dcd 2.2.1 now i know theres been some updates but id like to know what your using... thanks....
oh and how is the nexxvission rom??? im thinking of switching is it true that theres a cube??? and does it work exactly like the touch's cube?
I have rom 2.2.6. Never used other roms. I mean it looks good but I have been having some issues with it, its just that the good are greater than the bad. Also I dont know what to blame on the issues. For example:
Memory card is read whether my 512mb or my 8gb but when I try to play music from the memory card, the phone freezes. I used to make my phone an mp3 player in the car and even with my BT headset. Now I cant really use that functionality. I'm still testing but havent gotten it to work. Luckily this phone resets VERY fast now, WAY faster than it did with WM 6.0, and i'm talking a good 10 second difference minimum. I did have HTC Homeplug and other gadgets installed but I dont remember it ever being this fast since purchase.
I have ran into issues with installing software on memory card to run on phone. I have an 8 gig memory card and I want to run everything on card, I dont think i'll ever take card out and if so, it will be rare. The GPS today gave issues doing this, my AIM software worked but later gave some issues, its hard to say if its me or the rom but I've been successful in past with no freezes when doing these things.
Once again, the GPS, nice color lay out (i picked HTC gray background), faster internet speed, new task manager, etc...all the things you probably benefit from with your rom update keep me holding on while we wait for an official. I am grateful and will not be uninstalling unless its upgrading but just stating what I have seen as my issues with update to 6.1 through custom roms.
DCD 2.x.x - Clean Roms...clean meaning no programs, fast, and they are stable
Nexvisions Hybrid - Based on DCDs roms...few utilities, few programs...most of them everyday...everybody programs...some of them u might not use...per se...i dont use pocket irc...sling player etc.
both roms work very well with gps...ofcourse everybody has different experiences...but i've used both of them and both of them are VERY VERY usefull
on nexvisions rom you get about 16mb free mem after soft reset; on dcd you get about 20mb. (i've gotten 20mb on nexvision by disabling some programs like start menu prog; etc)
Both of them are VERY stable...yes theres a cube in nexvisions rom...it DOES work like touch cube...atleast from what i used and went to [email protected] to check out the touch...VERY VERY similar experience
I'd recommend trying both roms...it just depends on what you use/want
one thing i notice is, a good experience with the dcd ROM 2.1.0
whats all the new features if any? does it have the pic mail yet? (sprint)
gimme the low-down on this new rom and if its worth even updating to and why?
I see DCD got home from work and has like lightning already put together a new kitchen for it....Your rock D
No good, no bad? is this thing worth the trouble of having to reload all programs, backing up data etc.
Tregrad said:
No good, no bad? is this thing worth the trouble of having to reload all programs, backing up data etc.
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It's just a better excuse to reload your phone than "I deleted some files I shouldnt have..."
GPS is faster and more accurate.
Rev A is more stable and pie doesn't hang.
Comes with task manager, so one less cab to install. I haven't seen any major issues yet. It's like the good version of the leaked rom -- imagine that! And best of all, you can bring your gps enabled mogul into the sprint store without feeling like a criminal for having an "bootleg" rom. I prefer wm6.0 to 6.1 personally, so I'll prolly stick with stock until DCD and/or no2chem work out the 6.1 bugs a bit more, and patch up the major memory leak in those roms.
Sliced bread -- yes.
Upgrade -- yes.
just get it
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GPS is faster and more accurate.
Rev A is more stable and pie doesn't hang.
Comes with task manager, so one less cab to install. I haven't seen any major issues yet. It's like the good version of the leaked rom -- imagine that! And best of all, you can bring your gps enabled mogul into the sprint store without feeling like a criminal for having an "bootleg" rom. I prefer wm6.0 to 6.1 personally, so I'll prolly stick with stock until DCD and/or no2chem work out the 6.1 bugs a bit more, and patch up the major memory leak in those roms.
Sliced bread -- yes.
Upgrade -- yes.
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been reading about dcds new kitchen and it sounds like he got off work yesterday and slammed something together in a matter of hours that took sprint MONTHS to do and it works better LOL
did they fix the pic mail thing or is it still something they advertized with the mogul but cant do?
I spent all evening yesterday and all day today and I have still yet to get a satisfactory ROM cooked up. I'm using the ppckitchen.org one. It's pretty straightforward, but I can't get free memory to save my life. I think I managed about 8-9 megs free on a WM 6.1 build and around 6 on a 6.5 build. Not real good. Every ROM gives me a "Low Mem (Camera Enabled)" error on the initial splash screen pretty much every single build I've done. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here. Even through free memory has been low, storage space has been more than adequate, I have barely dipped below 100 MB free storage.
So, yeah, props to all you wonderful ROM chefs out there for doing such a great job and sharing the love with the rest of us.
Now could someone please help me figure out what the bleep I'm doing wrong here? I would, ideally, like a ROM with lots of toys and goodies. Here is what I would like to include (some of these I initially tried loading as OEMs but have managed to track down CAB installers for them so will just do them all afterwards since I can't find a way to put stuff in the extended ROM with this kitchen). My main goal is to make this build as stylus free as possible. To that end, here is my want/need list for it. Please feel free to critique it. I've been out of the loop on this stuff for quite awhile so I'm not sure what programs are currently being recommended and there are way too many for me to try them all out personally so I'm open to suggestions.
WM 6.5
Weather on today screen (using Titanium Weather V3 currently)
Voice Command (have been using 1.6.21040 version in the kitchen but I took it out of the most recent attempt to free up RAM. It isn't critical right now but if I get another BT headset I will definitely want it.)
Sprint Navigation (we're paying for it, might as well have it unless someone knows of a better free app)
Sprint TV (not necessary but would be a plus)
Manila dialer
Finger Friendly KB of some sort (was going to install fingerkb post install)
good selection of ringones (these don't eat up program RAM do they?)
HTC Audio Manager or equivalent finger friendly music player (can the Chrome be made to use this instead of WMP) (This one is not a requirement, I don't do music much on here since I carry a Zune with me but, again, would be a plus)
Newer camera (not the version that comes on the Titan but the newer one that takes better pictures. I saw it in a ROM, not sure which one)
MusicID (post install is fine, have not seen a CAB for it though)
Java (Do I really need this, I don't really run midlets or whatever they're called?)
.net 2.0
Finger friendly browser (Opera? Firefox? are these better than the IE in WM6.5)
Streaming video player (for youtube and all the others)
Office (Excel and Word at the least)
Comm manager (is one better than the others?)
Flashlight (vjcandela or nuelight)
Selection of games (can install those from cabs too)
the new windows live stuff like the voice activated navigation. May not be any count but I want to try it.
any other useful and recommend utilities
WM 6.1
Pretty much the same as above except replace the 6.5 specific chrome stuff with Manila2D and it's configurator and the new browser is more necessary.
Like I said, though, if anyone has any advice I am all ears on this one. If I can get a properly working and stable ROM I will try to upload it for anyone else that wants it as a thank you for the help.
Hey don't quit keep going... I'm sure that the more times you try it eventually you'll get a working rom.
Thanks. I finally got up to about 11 MB with WM 6.5 by leaving Voice Command out. It's not ideal but it is a start. Need to get something to have it close programs instead of leaving them running.
Avatar28 said:
Thanks. I finally got up to about 11 MB with WM 6.5 by leaving Voice Command out. It's not ideal but it is a start. Need to get something to have it close programs instead of leaving them running.
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6.5 has nuekernel
If in low memory mode so that camera will work you loose 5-7mb.
In high memory mode you gain mb but cannot use camera.
My time to cook is coming... I can feel it...
Seems like a lot of work, but well worth it if you pull it off... Keep up your efforts!
2nd those props!
2nd those props!
So far I haven't had a lot of luck with 6.5. It seems that these phones just simply don't have enough RAM to handle it properly and give me everything I want. I guess I will have to go back to 6.1. Although, really, it probably isn't worth my time. A lot of people here at work have been complaining about their Moguls. They want their precious crackberries back (ugh!). So they're getting rid of these and swapping them out now. I'm going to wait as long as possible before I swap mine though. There's sure to be a line and, honestly, I'd just as soon keep my Mogul if I can get it stable. Otherwise I'm gonna have to come up with $350 to buy a new personal phone to feed my WiMo addiction. I can't believe AT&T has jacked up the Fuze to $350 though. Yeesh. I'm tempted to just wait until their next one comes along at this point, hopefully one that will support 6.5 officially.
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So far I haven't had a lot of luck with 6.5. It seems that these phones just simply don't have enough RAM to handle it properly and give me everything I want. I guess I will have to go back to 6.1. Although, really, it probably isn't worth my time. A lot of people here at work have been complaining about their Moguls. They want their precious crackberries back (ugh!). So they're getting rid of these and swapping them out now. I'm going to wait as long as possible before I swap mine though. There's sure to be a line and, honestly, I'd just as soon keep my Mogul if I can get it stable. Otherwise I'm gonna have to come up with $350 to buy a new personal phone to feed my WiMo addiction. I can't believe AT&T has jacked up the Fuze to $350 though. Yeesh. I'm tempted to just wait until their next one comes along at this point, hopefully one that will support 6.5 officially.
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If I read your posts correctly you have found some of the cabs for the programs you want for your build, but I saw no mention of a memory card. Have you tried building your rom and then installing the cabs to the programs you like on the memory card? Not all programs can be installed on the memory card but alot of the ones you have listed can be. I recommend at least a 2 gig. (I have a 4 gig on my phone). Just make sure its not the HC memory cards as they are not compatible with this device. Like I said Im not sure if you have already gone this route but its just a suggestion. Hope this helps.
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If I read your posts correctly you have found some of the cabs for the programs you want for your build, but I saw no mention of a memory card. Have you tried building your rom and then installing the cabs to the programs you like on the memory card? Not all programs can be installed on the memory card but alot of the ones you have listed can be. I recommend at least a 2 gig. (I have a 4 gig on my phone). Just make sure its not the HC memory cards as they are not compatible with this device. Like I said Im not sure if you have already gone this route but its just a suggestion. Hope this helps.
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I have a couple of apps that I have done that with. But, really, the problem isn't storage so much as operational RAM. I finally decided that I could either use WM 6.5 or the camera and that I would rather have 6.5. Putting the phone into high memory mode helped a lot with it, but it still quickly memory leaks down to about 12 megs free. I'm working with the chef of my current ROM over at ppckitchen trying to figure it out. I'm starting to wonder if some of these devices don't have a hardware issue that causes some people to have memory leaks or if it is possibly related to the bootloader (2.40 vs 2.47) because some people seem to have no problem with them while almost every custom ROM I have tried running seems to have a memory leak.
I always want newer and better. Last week I upgraded from dcd's 3.2.6 to 4.1.2. Much faster, better memory, speedy gps locks, and no crashes yet.
I run a few commercial medical reference programs that are a major hassle to load and activate, so it is a pain to keep flashing my phone.
Can anyone comment between how well the 6.5's work vs. dcd 4.1.2
It's a very different animal.
First and foremost, the Today Screen has been completely redone in the default Titanium screen. I'm sure you've seen it around. You can still revert back to the old Today screen with a simple setting adjustment in the Settings Menu.
Secondly, nearly everything features finger friendly scrolling. It's built in with no real need for additional items such as FTouchFLO.
Third, the start menu has been redone to make it look more contemporary. Some people like it, some don't. You can adjust it to your liking by replacing various files.
Fourth, a programmer/PPC junkie going by no2chem introduced something in his 6.1 ROMs called nueKernel which is being implemented into nearly every 6.5 ROM. It allows you to enable or disable the camera temporarily to add more available RAM. Because of this, it's possible to have more free available RAM than you've most likely seen before on the Titan. For example, my ROM (and Ryan's, and most other current 6.5 ROMs) will boot with 25+ meg free.
Fifth, please note that those are most superficial UI adjustments. They are improving things under the hood, too, to make the OS better.
Your best way to compare is by flashing. If you like 6.5, stick with it. If you don't, there are plenty of fantastic 6.1 ROMs to choose from.
if its speed what you want then stay with dcd. no 6.5 has been able to come close to dcd.
on the other hand like btonetbone said a different animal and slower no matter the tweaking.
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if its speed what you want then stay with dcd. no 6.5 has been able to come close to dcd.
on the other hand like btonetbone said a different animal and slower no matter the tweaking.
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I won't argue with this because I don't have benchmarks. DCD's ROMs are extremely fast; I used them all the up through 3.3.something and loved them.
But 6.5 isn't a hog, either. It runs very fast and snappy on my phone, and I have very little complaints regarding speed. Please don't take the above comments as saying the 6.5 ROMs are slow.
compared to dcd 6.5 is slower. i didnt say 6.5 is slow
I'll give you my opinion......... since I played with them all.
I had been running DCD 3.3.4 for 6-8 months until about a month ago when the "tinker bug" kicked in again and I had to flash and play with new ROM's.
I first went to 6.5 ROM's by RyanMogul and a few others both here and on PPCGeeks. All of them are visually stunning, but, all of them ARE slower than ROM's running 6.1
Also, for me, free memory was an issue. 6.5 simply needs more memory than 6.1 and there isn't nothing you can do about it. 6.5 ideally should be run on phones with 128MB RAM or more.
I loved 6.5 for its looks, but, I run programs like SPB Phone Suite, Pocket Weather, Palringo, and others, often simultaneously, and that just wasnt realistic with 6.5 due to low RAM availability.
So I went back to 6.1, and to good old DCD. 4.1.2 is amazing in my opinion. It has major performance and memory management improvements over his previous ROM's. It's incredibly stable, and it IS faster than any other ROM (6.1 or 6.5) I've personally tried out.
It's given my xv6800 some more life. Until the Tour comes out and I jump onto the evil Blackberry bandwagon, 4.1.2 is it for me.
I highly recommend.
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I'll give you my opinion......... since I played with them all.
I had been running DCD 3.3.4 for 6-8 months until about a month ago when the "tinker bug" kicked in again and I had to flash and play with new ROM's.
I first went to 6.5 ROM's by RyanMogul and a few others both here and on PPCGeeks. All of them are visually stunning, but, all of them ARE slower than ROM's running 6.1
Also, for me, free memory was an issue. 6.5 simply needs more memory than 6.1 and there isn't nothing you can do about it. 6.5 ideally should be run on phones with 128MB RAM or more.
I loved 6.5 for its looks, but, I run programs like SPB Phone Suite, Pocket Weather, Palringo, and others, often simultaneously, and that just wasnt realistic with 6.5 due to low RAM availability.
So I went back to 6.1, and to good old DCD. 4.1.2 is amazing in my opinion. It has major performance and memory management improvements over his previous ROM's. It's incredibly stable, and it IS faster than any other ROM (6.1 or 6.5) I've personally tried out.
It's given my xv6800 some more life. Until the Tour comes out and I jump onto the evil Blackberry bandwagon, 4.1.2 is it for me.
I highly recommend.
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Thank you for explaining that so eloquently. I think you've just convinced me to go back to 6.1 after running 6.5 for roughly a month. 6.5 is amazing and very finger friendly, but not the OS for the Titan. Just uses too much memory, no matter what. I've tried different programs to free up RAM and keep me from soft resetting 2 or 3 times a day, but none of them really work. On 6.5 I can almost never run 2 apps at once, unless they are very small. So back to good ol DCD for me. At least until I get a new device! (touch pro maybe )
Just my 2 cents
Currently I am running Mattsm 6.5 23003b and this morning I was running 4 apps and switching between them with enough memory for all of them. I was on a website, Biblegateway, had a java application open, Go Bible by Jolon Faichney, Word 6.1 and Windows Mobile 6.5 Titanium Today (this skin allows both vertical scrolling and on some panes, horizontal movement) which I was using as the switching point to jump back and forth. I have run DCD ROMs in the past and they are great ROMs but if you want to see what is possible with your Titan follow the different developers.
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Thank you for explaining that so eloquently. I think you've just convinced me to go back to 6.1 after running 6.5 for roughly a month. 6.5 is amazing and very finger friendly, but not the OS for the Titan. Just uses too much memory, no matter what. I've tried different programs to free up RAM and keep me from soft resetting 2 or 3 times a day, but none of them really work. On 6.5 I can almost never run 2 apps at once, unless they are very small. So back to good ol DCD for me. At least until I get a new device! (touch pro maybe )
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One thing that DCD kept on repeating with the release of 4.1.2 was that the amount of free memory was determined by what was in the ROM. So you stripped EVERYTHING out and added it later with cabs and you suddenly start with a higher amount of memory from the outset.
I'd love to see Ryan prove this by releasing his "light" rom with a required cab. I bet if the rom didn't have all the the extra ring tones and addons he includes, we'd boot to more than 17.5mb I've available in his wm7 rom.
I'm glad you mentioned you can turn off the new today screen. I'm not impressed so far. But the big thing is that my GPS is working again which it never did with DCD's last release.
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One thing that DCD kept on repeating with the release of 4.1.2 was that the amount of free memory was determined by what was in the ROM. So you stripped EVERYTHING out and added it later with cabs and you suddenly start with a higher amount of memory from the outset.
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i think you misunderstood me, or i misspoke. free program memory should be the same whether an application is in rom, or installed post-flash.
free storage memory may be slightly higher when applications are installed via cab after flashing, because any files outside of /windows are duplicated when cooked in. however, this is the reason that most htc-written applications run from /windows, and those applications would thus would require the same storage memory whether in ROM or not.
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i think you misunderstood me, or i misspoke. free program memory should be the same whether an application is in rom, or installed post-flash.
free storage memory may be slightly higher when applications are installed via cab after flashing, because any files outside of /windows are duplicated when cooked in. however, this is the reason that most htc-written applications run from /windows, and those applications would thus would require the same storage memory whether in ROM or not.
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I was just thinking, DCD should change his name to Optimus Prime
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One thing that DCD kept on repeating with the release of 4.1.2 was that the amount of free memory was determined by what was in the ROM. So you stripped EVERYTHING out and added it later with cabs and you suddenly start with a higher amount of memory from the outset.
I'd love to see Ryan prove this by releasing his "light" rom with a required cab. I bet if the CAB didn't have all the the extra ring tones and addons he includes, we'd boot to more than 17.5mb I've available in his wm7 rom.
I'm glad you mentioned you can turn off the new today screen. I'm not impressed so far. But the big thing is that my GPS is working again which it never did with DCD's last release.
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Please don't mumble about me incoherently. My ROMs do not use any CABs besides 1.1 Heavy and thats 1 out of 7 ROMs. Version 1.1 Heavy installs Google maps using a cab and M2D via Auto Customization.. Otherwise there is not a single CAB involved in the any other of my ROMs flashing and booting the first time..
The ringtones are not a CAB.. They are added ingredients used while cooking a ROM in a kitchen..
Release my ROM without the required cab...??? wtf.. lol
I know I should include less ringtones but I do the best I can. I don't appreciate my work being examined with a fine tooth comb pointing out any imperfection you can find to take away from its luster..
I release several versions so if you want pretty and loaded, you get that. If you want ugly and slim, you get that too. And a few things in between. Like I said I try.
I will remove some of the ringtones next time I cook and relocate several installs to make sure they stay only in the windows directory because I know what you guys mean.
Some ppl are just dicks. I'm currently running ryans 6.5 the heavy one. He did a great job since I want 6.5 on my mogul till the TP2 comes out. I turned off most of the things I don't need like the new today screen and the camera which I hardly ever use, I'm consistently at over 25mb but I mostly use my phone to get e-mails and txt.
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i think you misunderstood me, or i misspoke. free program memory should be the same whether an application is in rom, or installed post-flash.
free storage memory may be slightly higher when applications are installed via cab after flashing, because any files outside of /windows are duplicated when cooked in. however, this is the reason that most htc-written applications run from /windows, and those applications would thus would require the same storage memory whether in ROM or not.
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Hey who's this guy?? Glad to see your alive and well dcd.... Just another thanks for all you've done for the community....
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i think you misunderstood me, or i misspoke. free program memory should be the same whether an application is in rom, or installed post-flash. Free storage memory may be slightly higher when applications are installed via cab after flashing, because any files outside of /windows are duplicated when cooked in.
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Ah, that could fit with what you were saying. Man, now I wish I could find the exact quote. I'd like to better understand what you were saying with this added bit of info. I've searched for about 20 minutes with no luck.
You were responding for the 20th time to someone asking why you'd only released a ROM and one that didn't have games or something in it. I read it to say that if the ROM was smaller and people installed their req software via cabs, in general, everyone would have more free program memory. Which seemed to make sense... I just carried it a little further than you meant, and assumed then that items installed to the device later didn't affect the amount of "ram" available. sigh... I miss the days the memory slider on my old e750 that allowed me to override balance between storage memory and program memory. Anyway, thanks for the additional info.
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Please don't mumble about me incoherently. My ROMs do not use any CABs besides 1.1 Heavy and thats 1 out of 7 ROMs. Version 1.1 Heavy installs Google maps using a cab and M2D via Auto Customization.. Otherwise there is not a single CAB involved in the any other of my ROMs flashing and booting the first time..
The ringtones are not a CAB.. They are added ingredients used while cooking a ROM in a kitchen..
Release my ROM without the required cab...??? wtf.. lol
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Ryan, dude, slow down a minute and read what I actually typed.
I never said anything about your current ROMS requiring CABs nor did I say that you'd released a ROM that was a missing required CAB.
I was talking about doing an experiment, making a test build, to prove a theory about memory usage. Sometimes that's what we do, we try an idea, see if it improves the situation and drop it when it doesn't pan out. Heck, I didn't even expect you to be reading this thread. So, I certainly wouldn't have been criticizing you or your work here.
What worries me more is the "Please don't mumble about me". No one said anything against you. Even if people do say stuff about your works, don't take it as a criticism about you, personally. If you keep doing that, you'll lead a miserable life as a developer.
I know releasing no-cost software on which everyone has an opinion is difficult. But if you are so uptight, so quickly, you really should step back from reading threads for a bit. This place WILL drive you nuts if you let it, but it will happen much faster if you take everything as a judgment of your worth.
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I know I should include less ringtones but I do the best I can. I don't appreciate my work being examined with a fine tooth comb pointing out any imperfection you can find to take away from its luster..
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As explained above, I've never criticized a single feature of your ROM. I mentioned 17.5 free on your heavy ROM with the wm7 extras, but I consider that darn good for your heaviest ROM. I've booted under other roms to 15 something.
And as far as "I don't appreciate my work being examined with a fine tooth comb", well... you should.
Take all the input and critiques you can. After 20 years as a programmer I know bugs happen. I'm not perfect. Making good stuff makes me proud, but I'll tell you now that I won't ever create a perfect piece of complex software on the 1st or 10th go around. If someone points out a problem, then that is a chance for my stuff to be even better, if I decide I want to fix it.
I am now running your 6.1 light version, which I think is incredible. Your roms have resolved several issues I've had with this refurb phone I am now using. And while I am extremely impressed with the level of detail you've gone to(like the fact that you've included the right codecs/dlls for tcpmp to play wma files on 6.1), you should not be surprised that I have found a nit-picky mistake and have some suggestions for you to consider.
I'd not share them here in any case, as it is off topic to this thread, and if it will hurt your feelings or honor for me to post it anywhere, I'll keep the information to myself. At least the one suggestion, will add a missing feature to your ROM, but I'll leave it up to you.
my mogul will be here this week and i want to unlock it and flash the latest gps rom and radio. the ppc will be for sprint. id also like to install a light weight but fast 6.5 rom as well. can you guys point me in the right direction? will the bell 3.42.50 radio work on this phone?
thanks in advance!
anybody???
There's a wiki somewhere but you can use this from over at ppcgeeks.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=33857
This tells you how to do everything.
okay but can you guys recommend a lightweight 6.5 rom?
I alternate between RyanMogul's heavy 6.5 ROM (he makes a light too - I just haven't tried it) and bbsandkm's light 6.5 ROM (over at ppcgeeks). Both are great!
I vote for bbsandkm's light 6.5 ROM
I vote for ryanmoguls It seems to be there one I always go back to.
You bought a Mogul? Please tell me for less than $25...
If you want lightweight stick with a stripped down 6.1 ROM. Unless you really want Titanium or the Honeycomb (both of which I absolutely hate) then I've seen no benefit to running 6.5. Then again I haven't tested Ryan's 6.5 so maybe that one actually doesn't suck like all the others I've tested. They just eat tons of RAM with no difference other than Titanium and Honeycomb.
I second 6.1... Get DCD's 4.1.2 and you will have at least twice as much free ram as when you use 6.5... I tested 6.5 for about two weeks, went back to dcd's rom and I will never flash back to 6.5. It's just the fastest, lightest rom I've experienced, and it has some nice features as well. His older roms are good too but you miss out on some things like the touchflo in menus and in PIE. Well if you like soft resetting every couple hours then go for 6.5, knock yourself out. But if you're looking for overall best, most convenient, fastest, smoothest rom, I'd strongly recommend DCD's 4.1.2. With the right CAB's you will be able to suit it up how you like, but once you go 6.5 there's very little programs you can install and still have reasonable ram to work with.
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I second 6.1... Get DCD's 4.1.2 and you will have at least twice as much free ram as when you use 6.5... I tested 6.5 for about two weeks, went back to dcd's rom and I will never flash back to 6.5. It's just the fastest, lightest rom I've experienced, and it has some nice features as well. His older roms are good too but you miss out on some things like the touchflo in menus and in PIE. Well if you like soft resetting every couple hours then go for 6.5, knock yourself out. But if you're looking for overall best, most convenient, fastest, smoothest rom, I'd strongly recommend DCD's 4.1.2. With the right CAB's you will be able to suit it up how you like, but once you go 6.5 there's very little programs you can install and still have reasonable ram to work with.
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I don't think you used a good 6.5 if that's the case. After everything is installed on my ROM, I boot with over 25 meg free. At the end of the day, I'm still well above 21.
I'm not saying 6.1 is bad - in fact, I spent a day on DCD 4.1.2 and remembered what good work he did. It's a fantastic ROM, but I have not ever seen that poor memory on 6.5.
unL33T said:
If you want lightweight stick with a stripped down 6.1 ROM. Unless you really want Titanium or the Honeycomb (both of which I absolutely hate) then I've seen no benefit to running 6.5. Then again I haven't tested Ryan's 6.5 so maybe that one actually doesn't suck like all the others I've tested. They just eat tons of RAM with no difference other than Titanium and Honeycomb.
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Well, 6.5 is slightly more finger-friendly than 6.1, like, finger scrolling works in most apps on a bare 6.5
I tried a least 4 different roms... new released ones, this was like 2 weeks ago. Please point me to a stable, fast 6.5 rom with that much available memory and I will take what I said back, but I tried numerous roms with no luck. None anything even close to DCD's.
Showtime7 said:
I tried a least 4 different roms... new released ones, this was like 2 weeks ago. Please point me to a stable, fast 6.5 rom with that much available memory and I will take what I said back, but I tried numerous roms with no luck. None anything even close to DCD's.
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I'm not saying I'm as good as DCD; he has waaaay more technical knowledge than I could ever lay claim to. But here you go. My ROM boots on the initial flash in the high 20's of free RAM. Make sure you set this to High Memory Mode under Start -> Settings -> System -> Kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532030
Thanks, I'll try it out tonight and report back.
I just finished a WM 6.1 Build 21042 kitchen. Its pretty straight forward.
So far so good, looks like I was wrong. But I don't know how annoying it will be to have to reset every time I have to use my camera. I'll see how well the memory holds after I get my apps, though with 6.5 as I remember apps are hardly needed, at least not for finger friendliness.
Kwokinator said:
Well, 6.5 is slightly more finger-friendly than 6.1, like, finger scrolling works in most apps on a bare 6.5
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The newer versions of 6.1 have this as well.
Also, I actually prefer to NOT have that functionality in a ROM because then I can install FTouchFlo and have finger friendly gestures working in almost EVERY program whether it came with the ROM or not. If it's built into the OS it becomes harder to figure out how to make the built in gesture functionality not conflict with FTouchFlo.
It is nice sometimes though to just flash a ROM and have finger gestures right out of the box.
OK so after running this ROM for a while I can see its mostly like the rest of the 6.5 roms I've tried. It started with the most available ram I've seen in a 6.5 rom but that is mainly due to the disabled camera. I start off at about 26mb free after flash, 23mb free on boot after installing all my apps and whatnot. Few hours later, I'm at 10-15mb free. I must be missing something here. No I don't use apps running in the background, yes I use hibernate every now and then. Still no use, I'm under 15mb free now without a camera. With DCD's rom I was just using I never went under 15, with my camera enabled. So I am thinking about flashing back, but I'm not completely sure. Maybe I'm missing something.
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OK so after running this ROM for a while I can see its mostly like the rest of the 6.5 roms I've tried. It started with the most available ram I've seen in a 6.5 rom but that is mainly due to the disabled camera. I start off at about 26mb free after flash, 23mb free on boot after installing all my apps and whatnot. Few hours later, I'm at 10-15mb free. I must be missing something here. No I don't use apps running in the background, yes I use hibernate every now and then. Still no use, I'm under 15mb free now without a camera. With DCD's rom I was just using I never went under 15, with my camera enabled. So I am thinking about flashing back, but I'm not completely sure. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Exactly what I experienced in the 6.5 ROMs I tried.