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Well I loaded in the new sprint rom last night, and now my phone is completely useless. The radio has major problems, my signal goes from nothing to 4 bars, back and fourth, and the phone goes into permanent sleep mode when I let it sit. I found this out when I woke up this morning and missed 10 calls from a client havign an emergency overnight... wonderful. I have it sitting here on the desk, and it will go to sleep and require a reset every hour or so.
I haven't had any of those problems.
WM6 lag is basically gone now and the keyboard lag is gone.
Everything is WAY more responsive and the memory leaks seem better so far.
The memory "leak" / Cacheing is more managable, and the device isn't as laggy.
I've had no problems at all. I'm loving it.
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Well I loaded in the new sprint rom last night, and now my phone is completely useless. The radio has major problems, my signal goes from nothing to 4 bars, back and fourth, and the phone goes into permanent sleep mode when I let it sit. I found this out when I woke up this morning and missed 10 calls from a client havign an emergency overnight... wonderful. I have it sitting here on the desk, and it will go to sleep and require a reset every hour or so.
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my MOGUL also goes into Perminant sleep if I let it sit.
i've had to take out the battery about 4 times just today.
anyone know why this could be?
Me too
Got the same problem installed last night. Woke up got into the car and checked phone sleeping had to soft start. Then same thing at least 3 times today. Also watched a short video in MP and it was show a few sec then sleep. Soft start and then you could watch it. Seems like after being on for a couple of hrs phone runs out of memory or something a freezes up?
claude9039u said:
Got the same problem installed last night. Woke up got into the car and checked phone sleeping had to soft start. Then same thing at least 3 times today. Also watched a short video in MP and it was show a few sec then sleep. Soft start and then you could watch it. Seems like after being on for a couple of hrs phone runs out of memory or something a freezes up?
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Check your power setting setup, maybe it's set to turn the device completely off after 1min etc... For some reason my phone never shut off even if I let it set idle for more than 30 mins like it was set to do. Perhaps with the ROM update it actually does what it's supposed to now. Just an idea.
it's not supposed to TURN OFF as in shut down, it's just supposed to sleep. and it never comes out of sleeping mode. i've had numerous other problems, with bluetooth, etc... going back to Colonels rom, which was much more dependable.
cbunting said:
Well I loaded in the new sprint rom last night, and now my phone is completely useless. The radio has major problems, my signal goes from nothing to 4 bars, back and fourth, and the phone goes into permanent sleep mode when I let it sit. I found this out when I woke up this morning and missed 10 calls from a client havign an emergency overnight... wonderful. I have it sitting here on the desk, and it will go to sleep and require a reset every hour or so.
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i too loaded it yesterday as well, but i want to wonder if you did a hard reset before you installed the rom. i did it, and it gave me no problems at all with radio version 1.47.00... oh, and the phone automatically cuts off when the alarm goes off while you charge it overnight (a big no-no, but you probably know this as well, but i ain't mad at ya). if you got anything, feel free to PM me. thanks in advance.
Thesian said:
The memory "leak" / Cacheing is more managable, and the device isn't as laggy.
I've had no problems at all. I'm loving it.
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Mine's still leaking, badly too.
Any of you try to use BT on this new rom?
If you did you'd know that this rom is worthless
-mark
The culprit appears to be the 1.47 radio. The 1.47 radio coupled with any rom version will experiance sleeping, bt and other problems.... so I am rolling back to 1.40 radio to see how it acts
As a tech in a corporate sprint store, i'd be interested in the details behind this "sleep mode" issue. What are ppl running? How can I, in the store, reproduce the problem? Is it reproducable on command or guaranteed, or is it hit or miss?
As I've said, I have the new Rom and Radio, and have no new issues, and the memory "leak" / cache issue isn't gone, but its definetly not as bad, the OS even seems to have a SLIGHTLY smaller ram foot print... maybe just a few megs smaller, but smaller on my device.
cbunting said:
The culprit appears to be the 1.47 radio. The 1.47 radio coupled with any rom version will experiance sleeping, bt and other problems.... so I am rolling back to 1.40 radio to see how it acts
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I tried that. The 1.40 radio with the new ROM still had all the new bugs.
D-pad cutting in and out...
I have found that if I push the power button to put the phone to sleep when it stops working, then turn back on, the d-pad works again. This seems to get it back to working. I wish that they could just get it right...
Jim
How do you get the new ROM?
I haven't updated yet, plan to over the weekend, but I would suggest anyone having problems to stop and consider their setup first...
What programs are installed that could cause problems?
What registry hacks have been done that may cause problems?
What configuration settings might need reset that may cause problems?
For example, after a hard reset, Enhanced Network over USB is enabled by default, and this often causes Active Sync to have issues. Likewise, power management tweaks will have reverted to defaults and you may like a more finely tuned setup.
As for memory leaks being better/worse, you may have programs installed that are out of date/buggy.
I realize it's easier to jump on the "this sucks" bandwagon, but it doesn't help you or other users with legitimate problems when no consideration is given to what is causing a given problem.
These situations are precisely why the instructions tell you that EVERYTHING will be erased. This is a good thing since it forces you to clean house, but it also means you have to pay attention to those things you often neglect or may have changed ages ago and forgotten.
Finally, if all else fails, try the ROM update again. Sometimes things go wrong.
Sorry if this seems like a rant, I just want people having issues to place blame where it truly belongs. After considering these matters, if you still have problems, definitely let HTC and the rest of us know.
Best Regards,
Aaron
Sorry, it's not anybody's installed programs. The bugs show up with nothing else but the bare ROM.
It's a train wreck.
There are more details on ppcgeeks and pdaphonehome -
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=10366
Basically, on a stock ppc-6800 phone with nothing else installed, the BT keeps shutting off.. For me whenever a call comes in or after using my headset for a few minutes on an outgoing call...
-mark
Clean rom, nothign changed at all, it sucks, clearly. We are the beta testers obviously, as usual, with most products today
I installed the new ROM after backing up with SPB Backup, then installed my backup file back on and I haven't noticed any issues. I don't use bluetooth however, so I can comment on that. But, I haven't had the sleep issue others are describing either.
1. the phone gets really hot on the bottom back pannel is that normal?(not hot to the point where i cant touch it but pretty damn warm)
searched for overheating etc only found the youtube vid.
2. 2 days i had it at work the battery dies after only few hours of sitting
i let it sit and once in a while push the button to check messages and let it turn the screen off. yesterday after about 5 hours the battery was almost dead. today after only 3-4 hours the battery was dead again. WTF???
3 i had the TP2 when it came out for about 3 weeks, spent lots of time tweaking not much time actually using the phone since it was always bugging out. now got the HD2 and feel like im back to same ol tweaking session ahead of me, trying different roms and radios and all to be able to use the device without so many issues. can someone help me out with the correct(latest/most stable/most usefull) rom.
and what about android, from what i understand it is at a stage where it can be used for daily phone routines without crashing right? or not yet?
all i want is the features to work without freezing. and lil more settings.
is there a rom that is simpler than sense interface, with less animated graphics? something similar to blackberry interface so i can get used to this phone?
ive been using blackberry for last 2 years and kinda used to the menus. great stable OS but screen is to small to read documents and browse.
thats why i keep trying to switch to HTC but cant figure out the winmo.i keep crashing it even with stock TMO rom and no apps installed.
to be honest theres waaay to much information for this to make sense.
i mean last time i spent all 3-4 weeks reading and downloading and tweaking and reloading roms, and thats i only scratched the surface.
so many people are releasing roms (which is great) but its uber confusing as to which is which.
i understand some people may argue that its a PDA with phone features.
but thats an argument similar to glass half full/half empty.
its a phone/pda. not either. or simply smartphone. and i belive it should act like one.
but with the OS it came with it cant.
theres also few people defending its greatness by saying "so many possibilities for tweaking" i definitely agree with that BUT, tweaking is not the purpose of a smartphone, its something you do when you re bored, not something you HAVE to do to make the phone operate at its full capacity due to many faults that are not worked out from the provider... that is not what people pay 500 dollars for.
i really hate to bring it to another post but this is so damn frustrating.
its like having a fast car sitting in your garage that has a governor set at 40MPH sure you can drive it but what good is it if it only gives 30% of its full potential.
Sounds like you should have done your research before you bought the phone.
sounds like you only got one answer for everything...
instead of actually helping.
fuzzysig said:
sounds like you only got one answer for everything...
instead of actually helping.
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Help? With what? Maybe you could put your questions down in a coherent form and ask them instead of rambling on with your complaints. What exactly do you need help with?
maybe if you could read at all you would see the questions are numbered
please dont waste space by typing dumb replies if you cant answer or help.
wow this is one POS operating system.
the phone froze up and turned off and i missed my father's phone call.
turned it back on and for the last 10 minutes been trying to make a phone call and it doesnt do ****.
what a great fkn phone
what if it was an emergency damn this **** you can all talk **** about blackberry all you want but when i need to make a call it makes a damn call!!!!!
unlike windows mobile phone where you have to build a fkn rocket before it does something for you.
my second attempt at using winmo and its garbage.
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1. the phone gets really hot on the bottom back pannel is that normal?(not hot to the point where i cant touch it but pretty damn warm)
searched for overheating etc only found the youtube vid.
2. 2 days i had it at work the battery dies after only few hours of sitting
i let it sit and once in a while push the button to check messages and let it turn the screen off. yesterday after about 5 hours the battery was almost dead. today after only 3-4 hours the battery was dead again. WTF???
3 i had the TP2 when it came out for about 3 weeks, spent lots of time tweaking not much time actually using the phone since it was always bugging out. now got the HD2 and feel like im back to same ol tweaking session ahead of me, trying different roms and radios and all to be able to use the device without so many issues. can someone help me out with the correct(latest/most stable/most usefull) rom.
and what about android, from what i understand it is at a stage where it can be used for daily phone routines without crashing right? or not yet?
all i want is the features to work without freezing. and lil more settings.
is there a rom that is simpler than sense interface, with less animated graphics? something similar to blackberry interface so i can get used to this phone?
ive been using blackberry for last 2 years and kinda used to the menus. great stable OS but screen is to small to read documents and browse.
thats why i keep trying to switch to HTC but cant figure out the winmo.i keep crashing it even with stock TMO rom and no apps installed.
to be honest theres waaay to much information for this to make sense.
i mean last time i spent all 3-4 weeks reading and downloading and tweaking and reloading roms, and thats i only scratched the surface.
so many people are releasing roms (which is great) but its uber confusing as to which is which.
i understand some people may argue that its a PDA with phone features.
but thats an argument similar to glass half full/half empty.
its a phone/pda. not either. or simply smartphone. and i belive it should act like one.
but with the OS it came with it cant.
theres also few people defending its greatness by saying "so many possibilities for tweaking" i definitely agree with that BUT, tweaking is not the purpose of a smartphone, its something you do when you re bored, not something you HAVE to do to make the phone operate at its full capacity due to many faults that are not worked out from the provider... that is not what people pay 500 dollars for.
i really hate to bring it to another post but this is so damn frustrating.
its like having a fast car sitting in your garage that has a governor set at 40MPH sure you can drive it but what good is it if it only gives 30% of its full potential.
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You didn't find a ROM that was stable? I'm pretty surprised. I'm not trying to bash you like that other guy, but I'm trying to help. If you really did flash different ROM's, chances are ONE of them had to be good.. The battery is dead, it's not normal for that, mine lasts a full day with use, maybe the guy you bought it from ****ed it? idk. Yeah, it does take a bit of tweaking, but seriously, if you flashed like 3 different ROM's, they can't all have been bad..
fuzzysig said:
wow this is one POS operating system.
the phone froze up and turned off and i missed my father's phone call.
turned it back on and for the last 10 minutes been trying to make a phone call and it doesnt do ****.
what a great fkn phone
what if it was an emergency damn this **** you can all talk **** about blackberry all you want but when i need to make a call it makes a damn call!!!!!
unlike windows mobile phone where you have to build a fkn rocket before it does something for you.
my second attempt at using winmo and its garbage.
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yeah winmo is garb. but dude just do a little reserch on how to put linux on your phone so you can run android. ive done it and there is very few problems its basically an evo lol. OORRRR just use HSPL(1,2, or 3) then put a custom winmo rom those dont lagg or anything, personally i hate the custom roms they have for winmo cuz there ugly
so is the android development at a stage where it can be used for daily ops with no major issues?
i was actually thinking of finding a clean T-mo US rom that has been stripped off all the extra software that came with it so when i update opera for example i dont have to keep the old one installed.
unless theres a way to remove all that stuff manually without installing cooked rom?
i finally managed to get rid of that annoying bloated home screen.
i really not a big fan of this fancy clock flipping thru and eating away at my cpu cycles lol.
or a windshield wiper on my screen.
installed the CHT editor.
somewhat more manageable.
now i have a problem when calling.
i call my voicemail or any other phone call. the buttons on the screen dont work
the end call button doesn work and keypad button doesnt work
so when i try to press 7 to delete message theres no keypad...
I hope this is not spam or something , but you shold use a Miri rom , i use v17 and is working grate , also you will can boot andorid from your sd car, and watch out for radio , to be a t mobile compatible , for my it does the job
send it back to htc
if it's the international hd2, then it has a transferrable 2yr warranty so will almost certainly still be under guarantee. i bought an ebay phone (without receipt etc.) with a screen problem, sent it back to htc and they replaced the screen and sent it back in just over a week. ring them up and check the warranty status. needless to say, make sure to flash it back to stock before doing so. good luck!
its a used phone.
but the screen is fine it works on everything else and im happy to say that i didnt nottice any of the screen issues posted here i tested the corner and i tested the drawing and my lines are perfectly straight ( as good as the can be on a touch screen)
but the only screen that doesnt work is the most important lol the phone screen is frozen
The HTC HD2 gets VERY hot sometimes. Especially if you are browsing the web with high brightness. Or, if plugged in the USB to computer (charging) and play around with it.
i dont know if i get lucky with these phones or what.
i have not had so many issues with any of my other phones in fact all my other phones besides winmo were great phones
i figured everything out quickly applied all the tweaks and settings everything worked out great for the most part.
this phone is not it.
i just spent last 2 hours doing the following.
soft reset
wait for bootup(about 10-15 min evrey time)
run memory clean
check task manager(no apps running)
wait till i get to home screen
phone goes to sleep and gets stuck on slider when unlocking.
and when performing any kind of task the phone is turtle slow...
i really am loosing patience with this ****.
it really makes me want to kick bill gates in the nuts for taking my time away that i could have been doing something else besides trying to make this phone work.
so to sum it up.
the phone sucks when its factory
you try to tweak it
and end up even worse because the apps are also buggy and might even cripple it even more.
then you are stuck in a loop of constantly reflashing "new and improved" cooked rom
how many roms does it take to make this damn thing work?
i mean XDA dev is FILLED with roms. yet we still have problems.
so much development with so little effect on stability of the phone.
is there a rom that JUST WORKS?
the one that is aimed at overall stable running system and not some animated clouds on the home screen.
i live in seattle and theres no need for weather on the phone. its simple here. 2 choices either rain or clouds.
i really hope we can get a bootable android soon because this windows tweaking sht is getting old.
damn wtf does anything work properly with winmo?
i loaded HSPL took me about 20 minutes to sync with activesync
now the phone wont sync sith it again you damn i hate this BS.
everything works so randomly its not even funny.
you have to be microsoft certified to operate this assphone?
fuzzysig said:
its a used phone.
but the screen is fine it works on everything else and im happy to say that i didnt nottice any of the screen issues posted here i tested the corner and i tested the drawing and my lines are perfectly straight ( as good as the can be on a touch screen)
but the only screen that doesnt work is the most important lol the phone screen is frozen
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are you an idiot? i know your screen is OK and i know your phone is used. it doesn't matter. HTC's warranty is transferrable. you can send it back and they will fix it. geddit?
are you an idiot? the phone is stock and its not international
the screen works fine can you even read?
its the windows that is broken... theres no need to send it to HTC, all they can do is hard reset and send it back to me.
dont post here if you got nothing usefull to post
im tyring the WCX ILLUMINATI SERIES HD2 EURO/TMOUS 21911 2017 rom at the moment hoping that it will actually work this time with no issues.
the thing i ve notticed is theres tonns of tweaks available, but usually once you start customizing settings the phone ****s itsself and stops working properly.
and you re back default settings, which defies the idea of customizing...
Against my better judgment, I'm going to try to clarify some things for you.
The poster who suggested that you send it in to HTC for repair makes a good point. You are having way too many problems with your device for it to be in proper working order. Although it is not uncommon to get some decent heat comming off the HD2, heat + slow + crash strongly suggests that you have a hardware issue that HTC can resolve via repair. Another issue is that since you bought it used, I assume you have no idea what the phone was put through before it was in your possession.
Unfortunately there isn't really a "correct(latest/most stable/most usefull) rom".
Every user has a different idea of what "best" is.
For example: I can tell you that for me, there isn't anything inherently wrong with the stock ROM. I have been using it since day one and never felt the need to flash a custom one. Also, I have never had to do a hard reset despite the countless tweaks and hacks I have done. For all intents and purposes the HD2 has been a fantastic smartphone for me (and many others here).
Before you bash me for "not helping", please understand that your questions (or should I say, complaints) have already been answered as well as can be. There is no magic "make the phone work good" button that we aren't telling you about. You may not like to hear it but the first poster who said "you should have done your research" may not have been off the mark. It sounds like you would have a better experience with an android phone or an iphone.
Here is your solution simply:
1 - Hard reset
(if that doesn't work)
2 - Flash a custom ROM/Radio that works for you
(if that doesn't work)
3 - Send phone to HTC for repair
(if that doesn't work)
4 - This phone is not for you. Do your research and get an android phone or an iPhone
(if that doesn't work)
5 - Electronics are not for you. Find a cave, invent fire, make stone tools.
thanks for your help fae.
im not a complete noob to this and most of the time can tell when teres a hardware or OS error.
and this is not a first winmo phone i had.
i replaced my first touch pro2 and the replacement had same exact issues and so does this phone.
to be clear, my PC runs perfectly smooth, my blackberrys ran super smooth for the time i had them( i owned 3 of them)even after changing and modding everything i could think of, it seemed to work fine. and the rare times it didnt there were clear signs of what was causing the problem unlike this phone.
i just expect alot more from electronics, i expect the phone to make calls when i need to without freezing, i expect it to load the OS without freezing,
i expect it to run or perform daily tasks without hanging or giving me errors...
i also expect the loaded software to work with eachother without bugs.
like activesync for example. it works 1 time out of 30, i sat there plugging and unplugging my phone for about 20 minutes yesterday, finally made it connect out of the blue. so i flashed new rom while it was on thank god.
is that too much to ask really?
the heat issue i guess is a normal operating/charging temperature i found out after reading.
but give me a fn break i ve spent all my evenings reading and downloading apps and sht to make this thing run smoothly and theres never a stable combination with this it seems like.
im sorry but i dont want to get stuck in a tweaker mode where i spend all my free time chasing after the NEW AND IMPROVED mod that supposed to make it all better.i just want to use my damn phone and add a few more customizing options thats all..
most of you dont realize how much time you spend tweaking because you dont really pay attention to it, you look at it as a hobby of some sort when its not, its just a lame excuse for a bad operating system that should not be released,or should be updated or redesigned.
so far the illuminati rom works great stock but as soon as i add anything to it everything goes to sht.
i add bsb tweaks or cookie homescreen and everything freaks out.
its lagging its barely loading, cant make phone calls, cant use phone screen , program errors and all kinds of crap starts popping up.
the guy had it for a while never had any issues with it but he was using stock rom.
it was in a protective case as well.
fuzzysig said:
thanks for your help fae.
im not a complete noob to this and most of the time can tell when teres a hardware or OS error.
and this is not a first winmo phone i had.
i replaced my first touch pro2 and the replacement had same exact issues and so does this phone.
to be clear, my PC runs perfectly smooth, my blackberrys ran super smooth for the time i had them( i owned 3 of them)even after changing and modding everything i could think of, it seemed to work fine. and the rare times it didnt there were clear signs of what was causing the problem unlike this phone.
i just expect alot more from electronics, i expect the phone to make calls when i need to without freezing, i expect it to load the OS without freezing,
i expect it to run or perform daily tasks without hanging or giving me errors...
i also expect the loaded software to work with eachother without bugs.
like activesync for example. it works 1 time out of 30, i sat there plugging and unplugging my phone for about 20 minutes yesterday, finally made it connect out of the blue. so i flashed new rom while it was on thank god.
is that too much to ask really?
the heat issue i guess is a normal operating/charging temperature i found out after reading.
but give me a fn break i ve spent all my evenings reading and downloading apps and sht to make this thing run smoothly and theres never a stable combination with this it seems like.
im sorry but i dont want to get stuck in a tweaker mode where i spend all my free time chasing after the NEW AND IMPROVED mod that supposed to make it all better.i just want to use my damn phone and add a few more customizing options thats all..
most of you dont realize how much time you spend tweaking because you dont really pay attention to it, you look at it as a hobby of some sort when its not, its just a lame excuse for a bad operating system that should not be released,or should be updated or redesigned.
so far the illuminati rom works great stock but as soon as i add anything to it everything goes to sht.
i add bsb tweaks or cookie homescreen and everything freaks out.
its lagging its barely loading, cant make phone calls, cant use phone screen , program errors and all kinds of crap starts popping up.
the guy had it for a while never had any issues with it but he was using stock rom.
it was in a protective case as well.
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this is comedy gold.
knock! knock! *your phone is broke*
check your warranty status, and if it's covered
SEND IT TO HTC.
and they will send you back a working phone.
how many times do you need to be told the obvious?
Every time I reset or turn on my fone after shutting down, it will stuck at the logo boot up. It wasn't like that when I first bought the fone. Now it's getting worse and worse since the issue happens so frequently.
I have to take out the battery and put it back, then wait for about 3 to 5 mn before I turn the phone on.Then it would boot up as usual.
Is there anyone facing the same issue as I am? Any suggestion guys?
Are you experiencing excessive heat when this occurs? Also, can you give more info such as: does this happen only after recent charging or does it ever happen when the phone has been turned off for a long time? Was there any recent apps you installed or ROM changes when this started happening? Was there any potential damage done to the phone -dropped it, got it wet, or microwaved
When you say frequently, does that mean every time you restart? every other time? every five times?
Lastly, do you have any other issues/symptoms other than freezing at startup? Does the phone ever freeze during normal use?
i'd suggest you do a hard reset of your phone (hold down both vol up and vol down keys while powering on/resetting). that should fix the problem. if the problem still persists, it's probably some hardware faults.
Me too
My HD2 just started doing this too. It was fine for 7 weeks I have owned it. However, as described in this by OP, when doing soft reset would it would also get stuck on bootup logo. I'd have to remove the battery for a few minutes before it would bootup.
However, my HD2 also crashes and upon reboot then get stuck on bootup logo. It appears to crashes randomly eg not with any particular program or action.
I figured it was software issue so did hard reset. This worked fine. After hard reset the only software I loaded were Total Commander and Cookie Editor.
After Cookie Editor install I did soft reset and it got stuck on bootup logo. : (
So I did another hard reset but it hung up again upon reboot on bootup logo.
This appears to be a hardware issue. But has anyone else had same issue?
T-Mobile HD2
Stock ROM
Purchased July 6 2010 from Expansys
yes i am experiencing the same problem and i have uploded a video on youtube showing this! Yes my phone heats up when this happens..
Hi. I got this problem for quite sometime and am so used to taking out and putting back and taking out and putting back the batt.
But now I have another prob: my ringtone suddenly went soft and I now have to keep myself alert all the time to see if there's any incoming call or SMS.
I would like to do a hard reset but the question is: will it set my phone back to the stock ROM or still retain the updated version - 1.66.707.1?
Thanks in advance.
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Hi. I got this problem for quite sometime and am so used to taking out and putting back and taking out and putting back the batt.
But now I have another prob: my ringtone suddenly went soft and I now have to keep myself alert all the time to see if there's any incoming call or SMS.
I would like to do a hard reset but the question is: will it set my phone back to the stock ROM or still retain the updated version - 1.66.707.1?
Thanks in advance.
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It will retain whatever rom you are using
Htc Hd2 vodafone UK
HD2 issue
After some more searching it appears this is not uncommon for HD2. Its not clear to me if it is specific to T-Mobile HD2 or HD2 in general.
It appears to be a hardware issue. Although that is not 100% clear either. I find it hard to distinguish what some people report as 'freezing' which i believe is different to the issue described in this post which is 'hanging up' or 'getting stuck' on boot up screen - in my case it is the T-Mobile 'stick together' pink and white screen/logo.
(The 'freezing' issue that i believe is different to this 'getting stuck on bootup logo' issue appeared to have been resolved iwth new T-Mobile ROM - and I never experienced it on my HD2).
The resolution for getting stuck on bootup screen issue described here appears to have been to exchange HD2 (although some people exchanged up to 6 times and keep getting same issue!)
I think it is important to note that my HD2 performed fine for 7 weeks with lots of soft resets, hard resets, and lots of software installs (though no ROM reflashing) but within last week or so, start crashing randomly, then upon reboot get stuck on bootup screen/logo. This also became more frequent as time progressed. After doing hard reboot, the issue is now acute, eg it gets stuck on every reboot, and crashes more often.
This leads me to think some hardware has failed or degraded and is getting worse, maybe a connection/soldering etc?
However, is there any possibility that a ROM could 'degrade'? Can a ROM have a setting that is modifiable? (I know it is 'read only memory' but is it really?)
Anyways, love to hear from others on this issue.
Same problem here. Bought my HD2 in june. Cooked my own rom with Chucky's kitchen. Flashed different radios, hard resets, task 29 etc. Absolutely no problem. Worked fine for several weeks. But sometime it begun to freeze, auto resets, stuck at boot logo. It was getting worse. Even flashing stock rom it hungs at boot logo.
Now my HD2 is out for repair. Now waiting for returning. Hope they will change the motherboard.
several people have had their motherboards replaced and that has seemed to fix it for them. You'll probably have to fight with htc or your carrier, but should be able to get it replaced.
Hi guys. Another question:
I'm considering doing a hard reset. How do I store my messages before doing it? I can't seem to locate the folder that keeps all my messages.
TIA.
HD2 is an odd one
Thanks for replies. I really don't want to send it in .. but it will probably be the only way to resolve the issue. It will cost me courier there and back, and $20 'triage' fee .. total cost to me will be ~$100 just to have them look at it. Price of doing business I guess.
Anyways, I realized that one of my issues was that it was crashing when syncing. A little digging reveals that HTC Sense does something to all contacts when syncing first time putting a bit of html in contact notes field (weird but it is true .. its their way of reminding you bought an HTC phone?) So once I got it up and running, I disabled Sense and syncing went fine, no crashing.
(Btw, Sense also appears to do something with SMS msgs too so if you have lots it crashes on due to this reason too).
However, even with plain Jane MS today screen (eg not using Sense) it still crashed once on sync and again when listening to radio. Both times had to remove battery for few minutes before it would reboot without getting stuck at bootup logo.
But so far it seemed to be working 'better' without using Sense.
So, I re-enabled Sense to see what would happen and over a day it has crashed twice. I am going to see how it behaves for few days before sending it in as RMA repair.
Still, important point is that it was ok for 7 weeks, and then started crashing, more and more, even after hard reset, though some of issues may have been due to Sense (which is reported by many users).
It is still not a 'normal' thing for a $700 consumer device to have such erratic behaviour. So, given others have exchanged crashing handsets for new handset that has no issues points to underlying hardware issues as suggested above eg motherboard.
As comparison I also have HTC Diamond 2 which has been rock solid for 2 years of continuous use even with lots of software install, tweaking, reg hacks, etc.
Stormrider75 said:
Hi guys. Another question:
I'm considering doing a hard reset. How do I store my messages before doing it? I can't seem to locate the folder that keeps all my messages.
TIA.
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I don't text a lot so i just hard reset without saving .. but do a quick search on on XDA for SMS backup or PIM backup .. during my searches I am sure i have seen a couple of utilities that do what you want.
genoki said:
I don't text a lot so i just hard reset without saving .. but do a quick search on on XDA for SMS backup or PIM backup .. during my searches I am sure i have seen a couple of utilities that do what you want.
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Thanks. Btw I read before we can actually 'disable' Sense.
How do we do that?
Sense - go to Today
Go to Start - Settings
- iI you see the black HTC Settings (has 'Personalize' on top of items) then go to Menu and select 'All Settings' (this will show Windows Mobile's Settings. HTC Sense 'Settings' doesn't everything Windows Mobile Settings has or shows it differently)
- Select 'Today'
- Select the 'Items' tab in Today
- Check 'Windows Default' and click OK in top right.
This will 'swap' out HTC Sense 'today' with Windows Mobile standard Today screen and voila you will have 'disabled' HTC Sense and you are back to using Microsoft's Windows Mobile 6.5 version of Sense (not anywhere near as useful or neat-o to look at but hey they are pretty happy with it )
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However, even with plain Jane MS today screen (eg not using Sense) it still crashed once on sync and again when listening to radio. Both times had to remove battery for few minutes before it would reboot without getting stuck at bootup logo.
But so far it seemed to be working 'better' without using Sense.
So, I re-enabled Sense to see what would happen and over a day it has crashed twice. I am going to see how it behaves for few days before sending it in as RMA repair.
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Just by disabling Sense is not going to make it work. I had this problem with my HD2 also and without using Sense it seemed to be working (there were fewer crashes), but only for few days. My HD2 was getting worse day by day - it was not crashing only if it was not touched (it was crashing just cycling between Sense tabs or by initiating a call).
At repair center they told me (after three weeks of waiting) that the motherboard must to be changed.
Is it possible to damage it by flashing custom ROMs?
For me, this problem appeared after just one month of usage. I was flashed some custom ROMs.
Now, I have a new HD2 but I'm affraid to flash a custom ROM (at least in the near future).
I have my HD2 back. Took me 2 weeks, the repair center changed the motherboard and got an new IMEI.
Now all is working, no more stuck at bootlogo.
But i'm on stock rom (1.66) with 2.07 radio. No way to run Android with this radio. Hmm...
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Is it possible to damage it by flashing custom ROMs?
For me, this problem appeared after just one month of usage. I was flashed some custom ROMs.
Now, I have a new HD2 but I'm affraid to flash a custom ROM (at least in the near future).
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I'm afraid as well to flash any custom rom now. For Android i need to HSPL and flash a 2.08 radio or greater to use it. But i'm stick on stock rom for sure.
I want to know as well if it possible to damage it by flashing customs roms ?
As i stated earlier, i flashed plenty of roms, doing task 29 etc., in the end stuck on bootlogo.
Thanks for the feedback on your repairs axman79 and Kalip. Btw, aside from courier cost there and back, did you have to pay the $30 'triage' fee or whatever they call it? Also, did they challenge your observations at all or did they just replace motherboard without question?
Yah, disabling Sense hasn't stopped my HD2 from crashing eith. Without using Sense it crashed several times while using Opera and more than a few times while syncing over the past three days. Also, it still gets stuck on reboot often, requiring battery to be removed for few minutes before rebooting.
So, guess I will send my HD2 in for RMA repair too (and wait for up to 3 weeks) and hope I get a functioning device in return.
Interesting though I didn't flash my HD2 but it went from 'good' to 'bad' in similar way that your two HD2's. From reading other posts around here on XDA and elsewhere it appears that HD2 motherboards fail with surprising frequency and for variety of reasons.
Would be nice to know if HD2 motherboards are unusually delicate and something physically breaks, or if there is some electrical operation, eg charging it on USB or unusual combination of button pushes that shorts something out?
The fact that battery has to be removed for few minutes in order to get thing to reboot hints that something requires charge to dissipate eg a component somehow 'locks up' which causes crash, and needs to be discharged by removing battery?
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Thanks for the feedback on your repairs axman79 and Kalip. Btw, aside from courier cost there and back, did you have to pay the $30 'triage' fee or whatever they call it? Also, did they challenge your observations at all or did they just replace motherboard without question?
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Was flashing stock rom with stock SPL, was at the shop where i bought it and they send it. I told them it stucks at bootlogo. Repair center changed motherboard without any question. Cost me nothing.
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Also, it still gets stuck on reboot often, requiring battery to be removed for few minutes before rebooting.
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Ja ja, same here.
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So, guess I will send my HD2 in for RMA repair too (and wait for up to 3 weeks) and hope I get a functioning device in return.
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Yes you will, but dont forget to flash back stock rom regarding SPL !
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Interesting though I didn't flash my HD2 but it went from 'good' to 'bad' in similar way that your two HD2's. From reading other posts around here on XDA and elsewhere it appears that HD2 motherboards fail with surprising frequency and for variety of reasons.
Would be nice to know if HD2 motherboards are unusually delicate and something physically breaks, or if there is some electrical operation, eg charging it on USB or unusual combination of button pushes that shorts something out?
The fact that battery has to be removed for few minutes in order to get thing to reboot hints that something requires charge to dissipate eg a component somehow 'locks up' which causes crash, and needs to be discharged by removing battery?
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I want to know as well !
hey guys. I am so glad I found this post! I have exact same issues ith my HD2, it's driving me nuts.
I kept sort of log and described my problems in this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712729
I think I have to send my HD2 for replacement or repair.
Can you please tell me how can I get my phone fixed/replaced?
I got the US T-Mobile version, but I don't have account in T-Mobile. Can I deal directly with HTC? Where do I have to call to get RMA number etc.
I would greatly appreciate your help!
KML
As mentioned above, Will you brick your HD2 if you keep flashing new ROM or Keep installing Android for many times?
Because recently i keep trying new ROMs and keep installing Android on my HD2... then call history or missed call record didnt keep in the phone everytime i make call or receive missed call, even i switch back to Window 6.5.
Numerous installation will it destroy your HD2???
If i understand this correctly .. the answer is a VERY easy.. and resounding..
YES!!!!!
Ok now that the scary part is over.. let me explain why.. just like your battery can only be charged and discharged a certain amount of times.. your memory system can only be written and overwritten a certain amount of times...
Now first of all this amount might be 10,000,000 or it might be 10,000 or even a grand.. and there is really no way of knowing when it will finally just be a corrupted system that cannot be written on anymore..
But here once again is ANOTHER catch.. every time you call or text anyone it saves stuff into your phone.. call logs texts messages.. navigation settings gps position.. camera settings and pictures.. location settings from roaming even antenna search and location just from walking around your block.. or hell even sitting still and satellites moving out of range and antennas resetting there position of incoming information signature....
SO
Yes.. you can only write and re write a system "x" amount of times.. but reality is.. someone on a stock rom who has never flashed a single thing.. who is on market place alot , traveling alot.. taking lots of pics.. ect.. has probably approached this threshhold closer than you have.
And
Since we dont know it it will handle 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 megs of re write or 100.. there really isnt any point in worrying about it.
P.S.
Your ps3 remote.. will eventually stop charging.. your hardrive on your laptop will eventually crash.. your ipod will eventually be useless.. your dvr will eventually quit holding movies.. get where im going here? ReWriting damages stuff.. but we have NO way of knowing how much.. and youll probably upgrade before you ever have to
Well-explained bro! Thanks for that... But i assume there are lot more ppl keep flashing new ROMs and androids to test each amazing development!
What bout you? ROM addicts? LOL...
But weird enough, my call logs dont keep records anymore! Any idea that i could solve this problem?
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Well-explained bro! Thanks for that... But i assume there are lot more ppl keep flashing new ROMs and androids to test each amazing development!
What bout you? ROM addicts? LOL...
But weird enough, my call logs dont keep records anymore! Any idea that i could solve this problem?
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If you mean it doesnt keep between flashes.. PIM is getting more and more useless and they need to either update or i think the lot of us are going elsewhere.. there are alot of solutions.
I used to be a rom addict... now im a hardreset addict.. which i guess is almost as bad.. but it seems most roms have hit a wall where the updates are person specific.. so it there isnt something in the log i want .. i just let it pass.. for instance i cant see moving from energys 216XXX rom for a while.
I'd just keep on flashing by heart.. What you are probably aiming for is called 'wear leveling', which indeed means blocks on the memory can be written a finite amount of times.
However, I believe that even with flashing your device daily, it will most likely not fail until you have had your new phone 2 years from now..
And IF it fails because of bad blocks, just send it in for repair.
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I'd just keep on flashing by heart.. What you are probably aiming for is called 'wear leveling', which indeed means blocks on the memory can be written a finite amount of times.
However, I believe that even with flashing your device daily, it will most likely not fail until you have had your new phone 2 years from now..
And IF it fails because of bad blocks, just send it in for repair.
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I just got my HD2 for 2 months and i have been flashing for umpteen times... It is just fun to see how the cooked ROMs like, any new features... Then now i started to feel my HD2 is sick already... Keep freezing and now all the call history doesnt record, such as call out, receive call or even missed call!
Then i do a Hardreset... Still no use... Any idea??
Flashed 1 too many times..
I have been flashing new roms to find out which one helps android run best and I bricked my TMOUS HD2. White screen with green htc letter. I can get to the Hard reset menu but I'm not sure what or where to go from here. Any advice? Thanks.
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I have been flashing new roms to find out which one helps android run best and I bricked my TMOUS HD2. White screen with green htc letter. I can get to the Hard reset menu but I'm not sure what or where to go from here. Any advice? Thanks.
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Hardreset menu, did you press volume up to restore the factory default setting?
could try a task 29 too
so lets get this right if i flash it 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 time it will bugger it up maybe....bugger only 99,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,090 times left
your call history thing is probably android related.....
mine was screwy the first time I booted back to wm...
some info was still there but it wouldn't store anything new
turned out that the date was set to 2011not 2010, check that....
Tried task 29, but failed to do so.... It hanged on black HTC screen with percentage bar... what should i do next to save my lovely HD2??? :`(
Hello everyone,
To be honest, it's been some time since I've been here, back when I knew how everything on this forum worked...
I kinda forgot, so I'm just posting this HELPME!? thread
This is my problem:
About 1.5 years ago I downloaded a ROM, and put it on my phone, and it was working just fine. However, 3 weeks ago it became really annoying, i'll explain what my problem was:
My phone would randomly freeze when i was doing things, these things could vary from "sending a text message" to "opening my 4th opera tab".
After that it wouldn't respond unless I reset it. However, when starting up again after resetting it would do a few possible things.
1. It's freeze at the first startup screen.
2. It's keep switching between unlock and "pin-screen", and when it was working again, it'd freeze.
3. It'd start up, and after about 5 seconds buzz like 5 times, then freeze.
When i left it on frozen the battery and phone would turn very hot as well =(
So, I tried a hard reset, but that didn't work.
After that i went to the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
I followed the instructions, installed the right Radio (2.12.50), and installed the ROM ( Energy.Leo.21916.Sense2.5.NLD.Cookie.2.0.Jul.07.7z ).
I remembered how to intall these things, so I think i've done that right.
So, after that it seemed to be working fine, and I was really proud and happy.
Now my phone has frozen again, and starting up was an issue again...
Does anyone know what my problem is? And what would be even better, what i can do to solve it?
Please let me know <3
Adios <3
Little Update:
So, I've been carrying my HTC HD2 around with me again, and then it started again...
It froze when I tried to send a text, and after that would freeze or vibrate (a few times) during the start-up...
It's really anoying =( If I'd have to estimate my phone's uptime a day...
It used to be 24h a day, now it's more like... 4 hours a day, with 2/3 hours of trying to get it working :Z
That could be hardware related. Possibly processor overheating. I would download the latest stock rom and fash it to see if it sorts the problem. If not it will need to be sent of to HTC to be replaced.