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Hi all,
I've not got my Hermes variant yet, but would like to ask if anyone plans on using this device in the car for example; with the need to charge AND have audio out going to the car speakers.
Since there is only one connector for both charging and audio, is there some sort of 'Y' cable that 'separates' the two connections?
Thanks.
Brodit has an adapter with just charging feature:
http://www.brodit.com/productinformation.jsp?anr=971690
I have just written an email to them if they could put an audio out cable as well. I will update if I get any information.
esackbauer said:
Brodit has an adapter with just charging feature:
http://www.brodit.com/productinformation.jsp?anr=971690
I have just written an email to them if they could put an audio out cable as well. I will update if I get any information.
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Yes, I remember seeing that one...
I would have thought more people may have wanted such an adapter- but obviously not. This is something I would use in my car all the time.
Hi Guys,
Have you considered the 'parrot' car phone kit options? They come in a variety of options, basically each is a Bluetooth car kit, that bonds with your device,transfers the contacts, mutes your cars radio, and pumps telephone calls through the car speakers also, it is in every way a fully working car kit for the Xda range.
I am biased as I retail and install them, but every customer i do installs for, they absoultey love them, as they also bond with upto 5 devices so other phones can be used as well, ie a works phone,
http://www.parrot.biz/united_kingdom/products/index.php?id=advanced
Drop me a line if you need any help ok,
Thanks
Bryson
bryson said:
Hi Guys,
To view and buy all Xda Brodit cradles and proclips, visit my site www.dsldevelopments.com
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You should really fix your site to work with Firefox. It gives the error
Code:
Windows Media Player Plug-in Dynamic Library
The plug-in performed an illegal operation. You are strongly advised to restart Firefox
with Firefox 1.5.0.6 with Noscript 1.1.4.1
Well I think it may be your fault because I've never seen the error before and it is reproduceable.
bryson said:
Hi Guys,
Have you considered the 'parrot' car phone kit options? They come in a variety of options, basically each is a Bluetooth car kit, that bonds with your device,transfers the contacts, mutes your cars radio, and pumps telephone calls through the car speakers also, it is in every way a fully working car kit for the Xda range.
I am biased as I retail and install them, but every customer i do installs for, they absoultey love them, as they also bond with upto 5 devices so other phones can be used as well, ie a works phone,
http://www.parrot.biz/united_kingdom/products/index.php?id=advanced
Drop me a line if you need any help ok,
Thanks
Bryson
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Would these parrot kits route the [musical] audio from my device to the car speakers then? I dont really need a BT carkit since I always have my personal BT handsfree on. My main requirements are those as listed in my original post.
Thanks Ill pass on the notes to the web guy, i use firefox and IE and works fine, is it the How it Works video?
No, it wont route music through your car, not that I have found yet,
You'd need it to support A2DP to play music too. As far as I know there's no headphone support only headset. At least it's only headset on mine.
The Parrot kits and the TyTn
To Bryson:
I have a CK 3000 that has worked fine with all of my phones. However, according to a different thread there seems unfortunately to be a problem with the Tytn and some (all?) of the Parrot kits.
Hi,
Ive yet to test parrot gear with a tytn / hermes etc - nhave you been over to the parrot forums to see if anyone has posted regarding this issue there?
Sorry i cant be of more help,
Bryson!
My parrot works sweelty with my Tytn and my Strtrk. I have the CK3000 unit too.
Y cable wanted!
I want a Y cable too!
Split into audio out, mic in, charge.
Preferably in a brodit carholder!
I'm sure someone can make this, now the phone is sold in Japan, lot's of japanese will want to use their own headsets, so I hope they will invent some nice cables
Im also looking for this same adaptor, so I can charge the device in the car while the adioo output can be used for satnav.
Anyone know of such an adaptor ? (Y cable)
I posted on the Wiki that a Y cable is soon to be available from Expansys. http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=140425.
grayhaze said:
I posted on the Wiki that a Y cable is soon to be available from Expansys. http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=140425.
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Ah nice one, I knew this would be something people would want. But why HTC couldn't integrate this on the device in the first place still baffles me!
This is only my humble opinion.
When I first knew that the TyTn, followed by the next coming other HTC's PPCs (Trinity. Artemis), would not have the regular audio port anymore (Regardless the size, 2.5 mm or 3.5 mm), I was thinking they must be really stupid by taking that away. Since my first PPC, I have been always plug the audio/sound to my car stereo for MP3 and phone calls.
Then I tried to think about the logic, why would they take it away, they must have reasons, being such a high tech company. The most logical reason I can think of, they might want to design a good car kit /desktop cradle for it. Thus, by combining the audio port and the USB sync/charging port, they can create a cradle/car kit that would only have one connector to the PPC, instead of two connections/jacks: the USB and the audio pin. That might be a good idea, same idea like the earlier versions of the PPC, like Wallaby that had the serial connector that can be used for synching, charging, GPS, and audio input/output as well, all in the same connector.
But looking at the connector they made, the one posted above in the expansys, I'm kind of LOL really. 2 USB output, one for power, one for audio? Ha ha ha..
They /any third party, should have design a car cradle and a desktop cradle that not only have a regular USB for sync/power, but also just map out also the audio output to a regular 3.5 mm normal audio connection. And that cradle will be really useful and I would think many ppl will buy it. And for a plus side, just add a GPS module in the same car cradle unit, than its perfect solution.
Just my humble opinion...
Yes, I agree with the above post, what we now need is for someone to design both a desktop and car cradle, where it would have the 11pin, to which one would dock the device and the 5 & 6 pin on the underside.
This adapter is helpful, but it would be more helpful if accepted the standard 2.5/3.5mm plugs and power. I mean, come on, who's going to be listening in their car with headphones?
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This adapter is helpful, but it would be more helpful if accepted the standard 2.5/3.5mm plugs and power. I mean, come on, who's going to be listening in their car with headphones?
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Yes good point. As it is, it would mean having to use this adapter to split the audio/charging and then use yet another adapter to convert the mini usb to 2.5/3.5 (if there is such as thing, seeing as the connection now would be the standard USB and not the 'square ended' one).
sh500 said:
goestoeleven said:
This adapter is helpful, but it would be more helpful if accepted the standard 2.5/3.5mm plugs and power. I mean, come on, who's going to be listening in their car with headphones?
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Yes good point. As it is, it would mean having to use this adapter to split the audio/charging and then use yet another adapter to convert the mini usb to 2.5/3.5 (if there is such as thing, seeing as the connection now would be the standard USB and not the 'square ended' one).
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That means we'll also need an USB A<->B adaptor.... Hmmmmmm.......
Hi guys,
I'm having an issue with my new touch pro 2 from verizon.
I purchased the act100 TV out cable:
http://store.wmexperts.com/htc-tv-out-cable-act100/11A75A5166A.htm
I plug it in as instrucated, the touch pro 2 asks me what type of signal i want (NTSC/PAL) then brings me to a screen where i can pick Presentations etc.
However the TV displays no images, i get sound but never a picture.
I have tried this on 2 different TV's and tried both NTSC and PAL and all i ever get is a blank screen with audio.
Am i missing something or is the device faulty?
thanks
Raptor
raptor_demon said:
I have tried this on 2 different TV's and tried both NTSC and PAL and all i ever get is a blank screen with audio.
Am i missing something or is the device faulty?
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Hi Raptor,
I have exactly this problem, and I am quite distressed, because it worked only a few days ago. Did you ever get this issue resolved? I know you listed the same issue on another forum, but I couldn't tell how you did it from the post. How did it work?
Cheers,
Joel
Sad to say i never made this work sorry.
Me too, and google around doesn't help anyway,
If it's has resolved, pls post it in here or pm me.
Thanks
Ok, some year ago i tried to make the sound work through the speakers in my car.
I opened up a soundcable and modifyed it to fool the phone that it was in video out mode.
So here's how the cables should be connected. I can post my pics of how it looks and maby someone's able to figure something out from it
Actually, it would be really easy to fool the phone that it's in Video out mode, just bend the gnd wire to the tv-detector wire, and solder them together (inside the cable that goes into your phone).
The blue and the orange pin needs to be connected to each other inside the cable housing.
Edit: To clear things out this actually works on my phone and whenever i connect the cable it swaps over to video-out mode. No problems at all.
Edit2: Nevermid, after reading through your post i noticed that you've already got the phone thinking it's in video out mode, so that's probably not the problem.
hi!
I just ordered an asus eee tab transformer for my car, as car entertainment system and navigation system. I am planing to invest some time o modify the hardware of the car to fit the tab optimately in.
One thing I'd like to do is to let the car command the tab for boot and shutdown. I am thinking of using the asus docking station interface of the tab but I have no pinout of this connector at the moment. Can anybody help here?
Maybe it is also possible to throw typical "next", "back", "play", "stop", ... commands? I am expecting an serial interface or something similar. Since I am an routined embedded developer, with a pinout this should be no problem.
The second thing is maybe a software thing.
I have an bluetooth car radio which supports one connection at the same time. The Idea was to use the Tab with bluetooth a2dp but with this connection all calls on my bluetooth phone are ignored. Is there something to establish a android to android bluetooth connection where the tap plays the roll of a bluetooth a2dp headset.
So for music and navigation:
Tab <-> CarRadio
For phone calls:
Phone <-> Tab <-> CarRadio
The other thing is, can the android tablet keep 2 bluetooth connections at the same time from the hardware point of view?
Ok, I think I wrote enough for now ^^
Hope somebody can help with any information.
interested in this
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me too
maybe someone has a good link to the asus support?
oops, sorry
fpdragon said:
hi!
I just ordered an asus eee tab transformer for my car, as car entertainment system and navigation system. I am planing to invest some time o modify the hardware of the car to fit the tab optimately in.
One thing I'd like to do is to let the car command the tab for boot and shutdown. I am thinking of using the asus docking station interface of the tab but I have no pinout of this connector at the moment. Can anybody help here?
Maybe it is also possible to throw typical "next", "back", "play", "stop", ... commands? I am expecting an serial interface or something similar. Since I am an routined embedded developer, with a pinout this should be no problem.
The second thing is maybe a software thing.
I have an bluetooth car radio which supports one connection at the same time. The Idea was to use the Tab with bluetooth a2dp but with this connection all calls on my bluetooth phone are ignored. Is there something to establish a android to android bluetooth connection where the tap plays the roll of a bluetooth a2dp headset.
So for music and navigation:
Tab <-> CarRadio
For phone calls:
Phone <-> Tab <-> CarRadio
The other thing is, can the android tablet keep 2 bluetooth connections at the same time from the hardware point of view?
Ok, I think I wrote enough for now ^^
Hope somebody can help with any information.
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Something to consider when designing.
Not sure if this is going to be a permanent install or not. But you can easily set up your audio through the Hdmi instead of burning battery with your Bluetooth. At least you can still use your phone through the Bluetooth. You can also incorporate other monitors in other parts of the car. I was speaking to a car audio shop for this type of install myself a few weeks ago. I will try to get more details and report back. Was waiting for the desktop docking station to come out to really run with it.
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Something to consider when designing.
Not sure if this is going to be a permanent install or not. But you can easily set up your audio through the Hdmi instead of burning battery with your Bluetooth. At least you can still use your phone through the Bluetooth. You can also incorporate other monitors in other parts of the car. I was speaking to a car audio shop for this type of install myself a few weeks ago. I will try to get more details and report back. Was waiting for the desktop docking station to come out to really run with it.
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Thanks...
Bluetooth battery burn would be no problem since I want to load the battery over the car. Anyway... I'm afraid that there won't be something like a "bluetooth router" so I have to use the analog audio out. That brings me to my first question: I need the pinout of the asus connector to control the tab over the steering wheel control.
I don't think anyone's figured out a pinout yet, and even if they do, it wont be as simple as "this contact is for play, this one is for skip, etc". All those most likely go through a usb interface. Not that that would be impossible, but if you're using bluetooth your headunit should support AVRCP for sending those commands over bluetooth. Most android devices only support 1.0 right now, but that still gives you play/pause, stop, next, previous, maybe ff and rewind too.
As an embedded developer here follows one idea that maybe can help you.
Why not using all via BT, I will say you prob looking for some BT support inside the kernel. If you find a similar application using linux (google it), maybe you can ported it to the transformer. Compiling the kernel with new drivers is very easy, then u just need to get into the software part.
Have fun.
Narog said:
As an embedded developer here follows one idea that maybe can help you.
Why not using all via BT, I will say you prob looking for some BT support inside the kernel. If you find a similar application using linux (google it), maybe you can ported it to the transformer. Compiling the kernel with new drivers is very easy, then u just need to get into the software part.
Have fun.
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Thanks for your post!
I was thinking about a similar idea. Bluetooth could be an alternative but with bluetooth it won't be possible to switch the device on. So I tried to find a pinout and maybe I have luck to command a power on. Anyway... Right now BT seems the more realistic way, you're right.
Narog said:
As an embedded developer here follows one idea that maybe can help you.
Why not using all via BT, I will say you prob looking for some BT support inside the kernel. If you find a similar application using linux (google it), maybe you can ported it to the transformer. Compiling the kernel with new drivers is very easy, then u just need to get into the software part.
Have fun.
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Android and the TF already support A2DP audio streaming and AVRCP remote control over bluetooth, there's nothing that needs to be done here. I'm pretty sure its only AVRCP 1.0 though, which only supports the basic controls (play, pause, stop, next, previous, etc). The newer versions also do things like metadata, so you can see on your headunit what song is playing.
I can say from experience that working with improving BT support in android is not easy after I spent a fair amount of time banging my head against the wall trying to add MAP support to CM7. In any case, without HC source it would be impossible to do here anyway.
fpdragon said:
Thanks for your post!
I was thinking about a similar idea. Bluetooth could be an alternative but with bluetooth it won't be possible to switch the device on. So I tried to find a pinout and maybe I have luck to command a power on. Anyway... Right now BT seems the more realistic way, you're right.
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I'd bet that there's no way to power it up over the dock connector since the keyboard dock doesn't support it.
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I'd bet that there's no way to power it up over the dock connector since the keyboard dock doesn't support it.
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Power it up maybe not, but wake it up certainly. If you allow the unit to be in deep sleep when you open the dock it wakes the unit. And as long as you are constantly feeding a small amount of power to it to keep it fully charged it shouldn't be a big deal. Maybe tear down a dock to provide an extra battery to the unit and perhaps the circuitry you need for wake on start of the car. I don't play with hardware so not sure what this would do but it seems it should be possible since it already does this to an extent.
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Power it up maybe not, but wake it up certainly. If you allow the unit to be in deep sleep when you open the dock it wakes the unit. And as long as you are constantly feeding a small amount of power to it to keep it fully charged it shouldn't be a big deal. Maybe tear down a dock to provide an extra battery to the unit and perhaps the circuitry you need for wake on start of the car. I don't play with hardware so not sure what this would do but it seems it should be possible since it already does this to an extent.
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Thanks Tor Your post...
Im Not sure hat this "deep sleep" is. is this the same like when i press the power button shortly on the tab or another power mode?
I have no dock and I wanted to save my money and not buy it.
Does anybody happen to have a list of whether various car chargers and/or kits switch the Titan into Car Mode or not.
Also, is there any way to see or preview Car Mode manually as there is with Dock Mode
Many thanks
Andy
I think the car mode is an Android function, not Windows Phone.
Looking at HTC's website it looks like it's only avaiable under Sense 4.0 which I think is Android only HOWEVER, this link suggests the Titan has it built in.
(Sorry had to seperate as I'm new user)
wmpoweruser.com
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/htc-releases-new-htc-titan-car-cradle-with-car-panel-app/
The car panel works in the new Locations version 2.1 (build2213.18230) phone can not be dormant or in lock screen to use.
/showpost.php?p=24460791&postcount=20
Thanks, well like some of the other guys on that thread I have a fix car bracket so don't really want the HTC car kit (it's expensive too) but somehow need to find out whether holders from Brodit, ProClip etc will activate the Car Panel
ProClip
SnoopMegaDaddy said:
Thanks, well like some of the other guys on that thread I have a fix car bracket so don't really want the HTC car kit (it's expensive too) but somehow need to find out whether holders from Brodit, ProClip etc will activate the Car Panel
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I have the ProClip mount without the built-in power. I love their products and it is a great mount.
I see no need for the Car Panel as I have everything at my fingertips.
HTC are currently saying it is only enabled with the right car kit plugged in AND a car which has the Bluetooth Phonebook Profile capability ???
HTC Titan CU S600 switch the Titan into Car Mode.
For a dock to trigger phone into dock mode, it needs specially made microUSB plug. For example, for Samsung Android phones, the microUSB plug needs to have PIN5 connected to a 600k resistor to the ground. Ppl on Samsung board has been documenting the various resistor values for triggering different functions for Samsung phones for almost two years now. Not sure if there is similar efforts on HTC phones.
But, to answer OP's question, no, generic docks won't trigger such docking mode. Only OEM docks can.
Thanks, I understand that the Dock Mode is enabled using resistance across pins of the USB cables however I am trying to find out whether the Car Panel mode is activated in the same way and/or whether it uses the Bluetooth connection to the car as well.
In case your still wondering I have just got this kit (£20 from the forest) and it opens locations when I plug it in , I have no Bluetooth in my car so cant vouch for anything else working.. Just gotta see if I can find away to open Navigon instead.
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In case your still wondering I have just got this kit (£20 from the forest) and it opens locations when I plug it in , I have no Bluetooth in my car so cant vouch for anything else working.. Just gotta see if I can find away to open Navigon instead.
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Which kit was it, do you have a link or make please.
SnoopMegaDaddy said:
Which kit was it, do you have a link or make please.
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/HTC-Titan-A...S6PK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344877037&sr=8-1
and it is possible to change what opens with it, i currently have nokia drive opening,, you will need a custom rom to change what opens with it though
meandu229 said:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HTC-Titan-A...S6PK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344877037&sr=8-1
and it is possible to change what opens with it, i currently have nokia drive opening,, you will need a custom rom to change what opens with it though
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Cool, thats the HTC kit and it's come down in price a lot. I wanted a fixed one rather than a sucker one but thanks for the info. Also, as an aside what ROM are you using and are you pleased with it ?
SnoopMegaDaddy said:
Cool, thats the HTC kit and it's come down in price a lot. I wanted a fixed one rather than a sucker one but thanks for the info. Also, as an aside what ROM are you using and are you pleased with it ?
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I'm using Dymanics 1.21 and not had a problem with it yet, dont notice anything different to stock performance wise.
Just curious if anyone knows if the touch-display functionality on the atrix will work with HDMI mirroring when connected to a touch-sensitive external display?
Curious as I'm contemplating getting one to setup in my car in the center console, idea is to replace a display in my center console with a touch-sensitive one and run 1x HDMI & 1x USB cable into my arm rest storage area where the phone can reside.
Would be nice if it worked, I could have android on a larger display in the car, internet, navigation .. etc etc... seen guys do this with some tablets but I'd like to see if I could run it off the Atrix.. could even wire the audio to an 'Aux Input' on the back of my radio and use the phone to play music on my car's system.
Similar idea to the padfone concept, just different application.
Just don't know if the touch-screen functionality is native when its connected over HDMI or not, anyone ever messed with it?
I suppose with webtop it may be possible, especially if you have ubuntu or debian, as for hdmi mirroring I wouldn't think so... and if there were calibration software you wouldn't be able to run it on android... So I would say you could try and that it is theoretically possible. Though I don't have a touchscreen to test it with...
Beakfire said:
Just curious if anyone knows if the touch-display functionality on the atrix will work with HDMI mirroring when connected to a touch-sensitive external display?
Curious as I'm contemplating getting one to setup in my car in the center console, idea is to replace a display in my center console with a touch-sensitive one and run 1x HDMI & 1x USB cable into my arm rest storage area where the phone can reside.
Would be nice if it worked, I could have android on a larger display in the car, internet, navigation .. etc etc... seen guys do this with some tablets but I'd like to see if I could run it off the Atrix.. could even wire the audio to an 'Aux Input' on the back of my radio and use the phone to play music on my car's system.
Similar idea to the padfone concept, just different application.
Just don't know if the touch-screen functionality is native when its connected over HDMI or not, anyone ever messed with it?
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Check the dev section. There is a guy working on that exact concept.
upndwn4par said:
Check the dev section. There is a guy working on that exact concept.
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Found it, thanks.
can you link me to this thread ? I can't find it :crying: