This is a pretty good educated guess to why many programs are not working on 4.0 The issue is many other devices have wm6.1 roms ported to them so the oem drivers from 6.0 stayed so apps like skype etc... work.
The AP4.0 rom is fully a 6.1 rom from the ground up. it comes from a build 19202 Athena X7510 rom so drivers and everything is 6.1 and updated. I believe once skype and the other developers make their apps 6.1 compatible we will all be good.
This has been sort of proved as other devices and roms have the same program compatibility issues. Now don't kill me if im wrong but there is strong evidence to suggest this.
5.0 Beta 1 is not too far away. will be a new os version and all bugs except for realvga and program compatibility related ones will be fixed hopefully. If anyone wants to play with 5.0 a few days before find me on irc and make sure you have the new spl.
Pawel062, good update thanks. I just got accustomed to AP4.0!!!
Anyway, I know you and others have explained IRC before, but can you tell me how I can get connected? I hope to be a beta tester for 5.0.
If not, its cooh. Just let me know and I will look for it.
Thanks buddy!
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Pawel062, good update thanks. I just got accustomed to AP4.0!!!
Anyway, I know you and others have explained IRC before, but can you tell me how I can get connected? I hope to be a beta tester for 5.0.
If not, its cooh. Just let me know and I will look for it.
Thanks buddy!
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http://java.freenode.net/
under nickname type what ever you want
under channel type xda-devs
good news. if you need some help i am here....
Thanks irus, I appreciated buddy!
Updater
I removed it and seem less hanging and TouchFLO working perfect.
Lovely Opera, playing the zoom more than surfing, now my preferred choice.
Ok guys, sorry to bother you, please excuse if I sound like a newb on here.
I just bought a Touch Pro (Raphael) from Verizon, and the verizon ROM blows, honestly, so I am thinking about flashin to a better rom, and I'm considering going to 6.5, so I have 3 questions and if someone could please help me I would appreciate it.
#1 Is windows mobile 6.5 worth using? Does is Have TOuchFlo 3D or Manila 3D? And are there even ANY 6.5 ROMS that work with Verizon Raphael?
#2 I've read that SSK is the best 6.1 Rom out, and I would like to try it, but I cannot seem to find a link to it. If someone could post a link I would appreciate it.
#3 This may seem like a dumb question, but is there a way I can backup the ROM from my phone, so I can do a flashback for warranty, etc?
Thanks guys, and keep up the good work!
6.5 is not even "out" yet, its only in beta phases. If you want to be smart, wait until its actually supported by microsoft when it releases this summer,
Honestly I dont think I want to flash my Verizon HTC. I love gadgeting it, but I dont want to risk irreplaceable damage, hence why I make record of my registry edits, etc.
I loaded JD CDMA 6.5 in to my Verizon Touch Pro a few weeks ago. It's pretty damn fast but that was compared to stock rom. Perhaps the 6.1 JD would be much faster as well. It does seem to work and I really like the new user interface. JD's is for Sprint but yet it work ok on Verizon. There are bugs so I would also advise that if you don't want to deal with bugs then wait and go with 6.1 for now (such as 5-10 soft resets before it will actually come up without locking on boot up). I can't give any advice on 6.1.
At the end of the day, I am a Newb as well so this for what it's worth. There are far more knowledgable people out there.
I'm a fan of MitghyROM (currently 4.16) over at PPCGeeks.com.
Its a solid ROM, although you need to downsize the PagePool for the VZW ROM (I hate having to do that).
XBMod is working on TF3D 2 for the 6.5 ROMs, but its also beta. Beta + beta = not such a fun time usually.
They actually have the stock ROMs available at PPCGeeks, so no back up necessary.
Go here...
I cooked a WinMo 6.5 rom, build/version 21202, using SSK (Scott's Simple Kitchen) 1.7, and it worked very nicely on my Verizon Pro. I didn't encounter any bugs, but didn't use it that extensively either. Performance was good, but not as good as the tweaked 6.1 roms I've cooked with the same kitchen. I've been running a rom I cooked in that kitchen, build 20954 with a tweaked XIP by FormerPalmOS, and it is faster than any of the over half a dozen roms I've tried, and boot with about 75 MB of ram free.
I have a 20 key Neon 300 that is itching for a new ROM.
Flasher beware!
There are a few ROM's here that I have found to be pretty good. One thing you may want to keep in mind is that once you flash a custom ROM, there is currently no going back. HTC does not offer an upgrade or ship ROM for the NEON 300 US. The best you can hope for at this time is to flash Bills rebuilt ROM. It is still not the original, and any warranty you might have will be void.
Now that said, here is a llist of the ROM's that I am aware of:
HTC Neon200 Build 21046 WWE and RUS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=518975
It's a pretty decent ROM, as long as you don't mind a little Russian in a few of the apps. I don't speak a word of it, but it hasn't been so bad that I won't use it. It has Manila 2D and the customizer built in. Pretty good ROM in my opinion
SETH´s NEON V3 FINAL & V3 LIGHTER
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419892
Pretty basic but stable ROM, it has a few little extras but nothing that takes up a lot of space. I have not used the "Lighter" version, but I can imagine that is is Lighter than the other edition, lol.
Seth actually has two other ROM's as well. I have not used his V1, but his V2 seems to run pretty well.
If any body has flashed a custom ROM, but decided that they wanted their old ROM back, sadly an original ROM is not available. But, if you click on the link in my signature, that ROM is probably as close as you can get. I personally used it for several months and never had any problems with it.
Well, there you go. There are probably more, but these are the only ones I have used.
My issue is with the touch screen slow downs that seem to be corrected with the s600 touch.dll file. But I have tried to install this from some of the other links on this forum but to no avail. It seems to be designed for other phones besides the neon300 or it just needs to be burned into a rom image for it to work on the 300 in particular.
Big Papa, does your rebuilt rom include this? The stock rom is fine in my opinion only because it isn't bloated out like the ATT stuff but this slow down is so annoying. Thanks.
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My issue is with the touch screen slow downs that seem to be corrected with the s600 touch.dll file. But I have tried to install this from some of the other links on this forum but to no avail. It seems to be designed for other phones besides the neon300 or it just needs to be burned into a rom image for it to work on the 300 in particular.
Big Papa, does your rebuilt rom include this? The stock rom is fine in my opinion only because it isn't bloated out like the ATT stuff but this slow down is so annoying. Thanks.
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The rebuild was intended to be as close to possible as the original ROM. It was built from a stock ROM dump with nothing added or changed. It does not have anything like carrier splash screens or other junk that would be on it if you bought it through a regular phone provider. It is pretty light, and works very well if all you want is a very basic ROM. It's pretty much what you would expect if you purchased it directly from HTC.
I'm pretty much just a layman, I am still just barely learning about programming and modding and the only changes I make are if they are fairly simple to understand, with step by step directions. I usually just read through the threads and listen to what other people say about how well things work, or what kind of problems they have been having. When they go into any detail about coding or Reg editting, I tend to get pretty lost.
Thanks for the response Big Papa Rich. And thank you for building this rom. It could be a nice fall back if I mess things up
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Thanks for the response Big Papa Rich. And thank you for building this rom. It could be a nice fall back if I mess things up
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Oh, I didn't build it. That was bill48105. He did all of the work, I just enjoyed it.
Any word on a 6.5 Rom?
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Any word on a 6.5 Rom?
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note: make sure you read all posts in this thread. Anyways, you have a choice between WM 6.5 and M2D.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482269
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is there anything new preferably with 6.5 and 20 key working?
Hey Guys,
How are you today?
Like all of you can read on the title I need a Chef for cooking my personal ROM for my T-Mobile HD HD2, which at the moment, for me, is the best device and will never die.
My ideas are based on 2 roms, CRACING ROM & NRGZ28 ROM, specifically on CR192 DHD v6.5.3.1.5 VGTX and Energy.Leo.21916.Sense2.5.Jul.04.
Both of the Chefs, CRACING and NRGZ28, know what I asking for but currently they don't have time to put together my ideas.
Practically my Project is based on CR192 DHD v6.5.3.1.5 VGTX ROM and first work is to start change 4 things in this rom, I will be glad to have this rom with Classic Home Tabs, like the stock roms, the Menu/Start on top left corner, like the original 1, background of the small clock on top right corner white and the numbers of the clock black and upgrade some specs ecc. Is not becouse is not good, absolutely, is amazing rom, but I like the rom in different mode. Is just me, nothing is wrong with this roms but I pretend something for me.
Also I want to keep alive this ROMs.
After this 4 changes I will be happy to put into the CRACING rom all the Applications, Tweeks, Lunch Android and Set-ups like or from the Energy ROM, but keeping the full style and full ROM of CRACING, Folders, Themes, almost everything.
Also if we are inside that rom it will be good to upgrade the speed, graphics and ad more progs which I know, for speed and graphics just if is possible.
The most important thing, and I said MOST IMPORTANT, is the BATTERY.
The battery have to stay charge long as he can.
Guys, Chefs, Anybody, I am ignorant in this stuff and I can't do this job, so I will pay for the work if someone EXPERT can do this for me.
Like my Avatar, I need a brain for my machine!
My offer strat from 100 USD to make the small few changes on the CRACING ROM CR192 DHD v6.5.3.1.5 VGTX,
and the payment for the work go up if all my request will be made by a Chef to cooking my ROM based on what I already said.
Who is with me?
Please, do not tell me "stick with some rom" or " it can't be done" or any excuses, I know it can be done but just by an expert in this section.
Anyone?
Folks, if my offer is too low just let me know how much it will cost to make my project.
I am serious about this, for someone maybe crazy, but I want do this.
Let me know.
You could try making the rom on your own, its pretty easy to make a rom once you learn the basics. To add all your extras and create a perfect rom that suits you can take some time, especially finding them and checking the battery drain. Since you want something like CRACING's rom use his kitchen and then add the extras you need.
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You could try making the rom on your own, its pretty easy to make a rom once you learn the basics. To add all your extras and create a perfect rom that suits you can take some time, especially finding them and checking the battery drain. Since you want something like CRACING's rom use his kitchen and then add the extras you need.
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I understand, but I really need help from someone who know how do this. I really can't do this by my own, I cry just to understand how I can upgrade my HTC, is not the job for me now and I want a massive ROM soon as is possible. I know we are in the community where nobody sell they roms but I asking for help of experts who can do this work. Is not so easy and I know the hard work of this people so I will pay, for real. If someone don't believe me i will pay in advance 50%.
Someone said, why do you not upgrade with Android? I will, not now, currently I have all what is working well with Windows Mobile 6.5.
Think also about that; I have a BMW M3 and I go to Garage Racing (I can do some work on my engine but everything I can't do by myself) so I asking to performing my engine like I like.
So here we are! Who can do this work?
I could try making it but haven't really made roms for hd2 the only one i made for was my HTC Hermes few years back. I'll download Cracings kitchen and try it if i still remember the stuff let you know tommorow or the day after if i can still cook roms, since i'm busy with school stuff these days. If i can i'll be glad to help you, but no promises yet.
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I could try making it but haven't really made roms for hd2 the only one i made for was my HTC Hermes few years back. I'll download Cracings kitchen and try it if i still remember the stuff let you know tommorow or the day after if i can still cook roms, since i'm busy with school stuff these days. If i can i'll be glad to help you, but no promises yet.
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thanks, I appreciate. I hope you can.
When you try to do some changes on the CR192 DHD v6.5.3.1.5 VGTX ROM start with few basic changes which I will like to change, like:
Classic (Original stock) Home Screen Tabs inside the Sense, from Left to Right - all with style of the actual CRASING ROM.
Menu/Start on top left corner, like the stock one. (Original)
Background of the digital clock on top right corner, switch from black to the colour of the theme, should be white, and make the numbers of the clock Black, which right now are white.
We (you) try to do this for the beginning, later we think about the remaining stuffs.
Let me know,
Thanks.
PS: Anyone want help are welcome!!
Ok so last night downloaded two kitchen Cracings and GhostX's and tried them out. CRACINGS was something brand new for me and was a bit confusing but ii tried it out tried adding wm 6.5 build but had issues and not was not sure what to do. The other kitchen was somewhat familiar since i used oskitchen for my hermes so decided to add the latest 6.5 build which worked but i couldn't get CRACINGS GTX Sense theme to work found a Project which i think CRACINGS theme is based of tried using that imported great tried bulding a rom. The build was successful but got an error while flashing half way through, probably the size since it was around 450mb and i have EUR HD2 so yeah.
Sorry but I think I might give up soon
but if you want something clean and stable with good battery and more than 270mb free with sense try : CleanEX RV Standard v1.02 WM 6.5 CHOOSE STANDARD 1.02 i flash back to it when i feel wp7 is too restricted like right now (*sigh* I'm addicted to flashing roms, I flash a new rom each month sometimes more frequent)
and if you want to make sense look like Cracing's rom: try this GTX THEME 1.8.5 it should work with that rom I think.
i'll try to see if i can get the rom to work if not you can always try my suggestion above and if you need help with somethin let me know
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Ok so last night downloaded two kitchen Cracings and GhostX's and tried them out. CRACINGS was something brand new for me and was a bit confusing but ii tried it out tried adding wm 6.5 build but had issues and not was not sure what to do. The other kitchen was somewhat familiar since i used oskitchen for my hermes so decided to add the latest 6.5 build which worked but i couldn't get CRACINGS GTX Sense theme to work found a Project which i think CRACINGS theme is based of tried using that imported great tried bulding a rom. The build was successful but got an error while flashing half way through, probably the size since it was around 450mb and i have EUR HD2 so yeah.
Sorry but I think I might give up soon
but if you want something clean and stable with good battery and more than 270mb free with sense try : CleanEX RV Standard v1.02 WM 6.5 CHOOSE STANDARD 1.02 i flash back to it when i feel wp7 is too restricted like right now (*sigh* I'm addicted to flashing roms, I flash a new rom each month sometimes more frequent)
and if you want to make sense look like Cracing's rom: try this GTX THEME 1.8.5 it should work with that rom I think.
i'll try to see if i can get the rom to work if not you can always try my suggestion above and if you need help with somethin let me know
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No man, DON'T GIVE UP!
At the moment you are the only one who try to help me, see this thread, is dead!
if I lose you I will lose any hope.
I spoke to CRACING before open this section and maybe he don't know about this thread but he said he will help if I need too, so contact him and explain which problems you find to change his rom, also send the link of this thread and said I told you to contact him.
You already have the visual of his kitchen so you know what ask.
I try to contact him as well.
I saw the 2 link which you sended to me and is not the same, the ROM CleanEX RV has issue and the Theme GTX is different, is close but different and I will stick with something which is not working properly.
I also agree about WM7, is too restricted.
Let me know.
Cheers.
@Suhaib10
I too was using OSKitchen earlier but later I found it had memory leaks and etc which I don't remember now. OSBuilder is bit complex and takes some time to understand things. If there is a lil mistake, either ROM won't build or device won't boot up. But for professionals, its a great kitchen.
For making easier to people, I have included the kitchen I used to build ROM. If you tried to use it with your kitchen, either it would be osbuilder or etc, you will face major issues.
Wish I could help eclyptos but I no longer have HD2 to test and more busy in life. Not just my house construction (its almost over) but many different things. No time for learning programming languages that helps for develop things on android. :|
And acutully ROM cooking is not that easy. It takes lots of time and research. You will never endup in stable and/or bugfree ROM, even if you do then you will be a master. So becoming a master, Isn't so easy.
eclyptos just doesn't want stuffs in ROM but want to have WM6.1, So its a bit difficult job and things won't workout as expected.
Best of luck, eclyptos.
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eclyptos just doesn't want stuffs in ROM but want to have WM6.1, So its a bit difficult job and things won't workout as expected.
Best of luck, eclyptos.
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I don't know how it is work but should be WM6.1 with Sense, because if you say just WM6.1 somebody get confused because WM6.1 don't have Manilla or Sense or something like that. I hope keep you rom with modify Sense, like the stock ROM (Original One).
Thanks for the Good Luck, I (We) will need that.
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The other kitchen was somewhat familiar since i used oskitchen for my hermes so decided to add the latest 6.5 build which worked but i couldn't get CRACINGS GTX Sense theme to work found a Project which i think CRACINGS theme is based of tried using that imported great tried bulding a rom. The build was successful but got an error while flashing half way through, probably the size since it was around 450mb and i have EUR HD2 so yeah.
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this is something, I can't understand exactly what you did but something you build, anyway if your HD2 is the EU and you can't test the rom, I can, actually I don't use HD2 becouse is not ready, I use my old Diamond 2.
if I brick the phone you will be not paid, ha ha ha :laugh:
Hey CRACING thanks for the tip. Do you know any good guide for wm rom building using OSBUILDER since the ones i found were mainly for wp7
AND eclyptos i'm a bit confused do you want a 6.1 rom or 6.5 COM2 (the stock type with start on top left)
P.S. i'm currently trying to figure out osbuilder, but will take some time before i start making a rom.
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Hey CRACING thanks for the tip. Do you know any good guide for wm rom building using OSBUILDER since the ones i found were mainly for wp7
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I kinda forgot most of things now but I think I learn t my self and some help from OSbuilder developers and senior developers. Yes osbuilder is used for wp7 now but works for both. I guess I have seen guides for cooking ROMs using osbuilder but have to search again. If I find any, will let you know.
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AND eclyptos i'm a bit confused do you want a 6.1 rom or 6.5 COM2 (the stock type with start on top left)
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WM6.5 had startmenu on top left? well, I cannot remember well. All I remember now is wm6.1 had startmenu on top and wm6.5 on bottom.
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P.S. i'm currently trying to figure out osbuilder, but will take some time before i start making a rom.
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if you face any troubles, just post it here. even if I don't remember in forehead, they will be present in my back head.
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this is something, I can't understand exactly what you did but something you build, anyway if your HD2 is the EU and you can't test the rom, I can, actually I don't use HD2 becouse is not ready, I use my old Diamond 2.
if I brick the phone you will be not paid, ha ha ha :laugh:
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Tmous/US HD2 or EU HD2 doesn't matter. my kitchen uses latest kernel and drivers which supports both devices. That also means a single ROM of mine supports both devices.
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I don't know how it is work but should be WM6.1 with Sense, because if you say just WM6.1 somebody get confused because WM6.1 don't have Manilla or Sense or something like that. I hope keep you rom with modify Sense, like the stock ROM (Original One).
Thanks for the Good Luck, I (We) will need that.
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well if you just wanted WM6.1 without sense and/or any htc stuffs, that wasn't a difficult job.
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Hey CRACING thanks for the tip. Do you know any good guide for wm rom building using OSBUILDER since the ones i found were mainly for wp7
AND eclyptos i'm a bit confused do you want a 6.1 rom or 6.5 COM2 (the stock type with start on top left)
P.S. i'm currently trying to figure out osbuilder, but will take some time before i start making a rom.
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I don't know which kitchen you looking for but I find this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774430
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don't be confused! I told you, I want CRACING rom but with this few different things. (if possible)
That not mean don't exist ROM like CRASING with Start on top left corner and Classic Home Tabs like in the Stocks ROMs AND also with 4 columns of Quick Links.
CRACING is confused because I told him about the ENERGY ROM (Energy.Leo.21916.Sense2.5.Jul.04) which is based on OS version 5.2.21916 (21916.5.0.93) but is Windows Mobile 6.5 Pro, he said is WM 6.1 and i don't know why?
CRACING roms is based on OS 23153 and 29022, maybe this is the difference because all the time when I try to find the roms ONLY 21916 was the rom set-up in the mode like I like.
That's mean probably is WM 6.5 COM2 (the stock type with start on top left)
I hope I clarified.
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well if you just wanted WM6.1 without sense and/or any htc stuffs, that wasn't a difficult job.
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no, I don't want WM 6.1, I told you, we had some misunderstanding, the Energy rom is Windows Mobile 6.5 with Manila 2.5.20212114.0 but is based on different OS version so can't be 6.1 and like I said to Suhaib10 I don't understand why you said so?
All the time when I search for Custom ROM I have to look for the OS version to understand in which mode is made.
Maybe if we do your ROM, all the same, but based on OS 21916 maybe we solve the problem?
I don't know, I just try to figure out what we can do.
Also if I understood right your rom is from desire HD device, right?
or maybe I don't understood nothing, so never mind!
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Maybe if we do your ROM, all the same, but based on OS 21916 maybe we solve the problem?
I don't know, I just try to figure out what we can do.
Also if I understood right your rom is from desire HD device, right?
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I think I confused. Yes WM 6.5 (those are 217XX, 218XX and 219XX) have startmenu on top and WM6.5.X (those are 216XX, 22XXX, 23XXX, 28XXX, 29XXX) have startmenu on bottom.
My older ROMs before CR192 DHD 0.3 was using WM6.5 (startmenu on top) but was using OSKitchen. I have attached screenshot below and also I have the ROM.
So finally is that what you wanted? If you don't mind about older packages (of courses should have because it os build itself is old) and minor bugs, I can upload for you.
P.s but you are looking for same ROM with gtx theme isn't it?
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I think I confused. Yes WM 6.5 (those are 217XX, 218XX and 219XX) have startmenu on top and WM6.5.X (those are 216XX, 22XXX, 23XXX, 28XXX, 29XXX) have startmenu on bottom.
My older ROMs before CR192 DHD 0.3 was using WM6.5 (startmenu on top) but was using OSKitchen. I have attached screenshot below and also I have the ROM.
So finally is that what you wanted? If you don't mind about older packages (of courses should have because it os build itself is old) and minor bugs, I can upload for you.
P.s but you are looking for same ROM with gtx theme isn't it?
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Thats the one he is most likely talking about since 21916 is 6.5.
By the way CRACING i managed to get the 21916 build in your kitchen. Are there any extra components that i need to remove other than CHT to get stock Sense sliding bar and no extra widgets.
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P.s but you are looking for same ROM with gtx theme isn't it?
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YES, we are close, the type of the rom is exactly like in the pics but I will be glad if the ROM will be like your GTX (or Theme).
That's mean have to have all, 4 columns Quick links, Taskbar icons, Tweeks, Folders exc...
I also saw after the installation of Opera 10 on your rom GTX, the icon of the Opera was a little old, graphically bad, was not really nice. The official original T-Mobile ROM for HD2 has amazing nice icons for the app after I try one, so maybe we have to update the .dll of the icons to get the latest stylish type of icons after we solve the OS issue.
:fingers-crossed:
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Thats the one he is most likely talking about since 21916 is 6.5.
By the way CRACING i managed to get the 21916 build in your kitchen. Are there any extra components that i need to remove other than CHT to get stock Sense sliding bar and no extra widgets.
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good, good, keep going...:good: