For those of you who use pim backup to backup stuff on ur fuze before flashing a new rom do you select the custom option to backup or is that like the registry and stuff that can mess up a new rom and ur phone if you try and restore it or is it fine to restore the custom stuff?
its an option that allows you to save any custom file of your wish, its nothing to do with registry or anything like that. For eg if I want to backup some .jpeg or mp3 files along with the rest of PIM it enables me to do that. Cheers. Let me know if you still have some doubt.
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Am i right in thinking that these 2 programs are essentially the same (with the exception that PIM backup is independently developed, and freeware, whereas Sprite Backup is commercial software + not free) ?
Can PIM backup do things that Sprite backup cannot?
Just wondering, as i got Spite Backup bundled with my Kaiser.
Thanks!
PIM Backup
PIM Backup, only backup for Contact, Calendar (appointment), To do, Task, Massages (SMS).
Spritebackup could do everything PIM Backup do, Plus all setting System (include register) and all software have been installed.
PIM backup allows PIM information to be transferred across different operating systems and different devices.
I can transfer my Agenda Fusion appointments from my HTC X7500/WM6 to my IPAQ 2755/WM2003 with no problem.
Using Sprite to do any of that will give completely unreliable (or no) results.
Both are good programs, Sprite backup is awsome though
Your phone's databases are .pim files hence the name PIM backup. As stated above it only backs up and restores these pim files. Sprite backup backs up everything as described above as well. The reason for my post is to correct nrm (post above this one). Sprite backup can restore to different devices. When you are restoring you have to specify what type of restore you want to run (level 1-3). Also you can manually specify what you want to restore. If you just want to restore your personal data (PIM databases) you can select just this. So Sprite can do exactly what pim can do but so much more. One down side to sprite is that the version I am running (v.6.5.4) is not compatible with WM6.5 or WM7. I havent bothered to even check if they have a new version out that is compatible. Sprite still works with these newer versions of Windows Mobile but M$ has changed the format of the above mentioned databases (files on root of device with .pim extension) and it will not back them up. So until there is a new compatible version of sprite backup you will need to use pim to backup your databases and you can still use sprite to backup everything else.
And what about Spb Backup?
I've tried them both. PIM Backup is great for the Contact/Calendar/Task/Message backup, and I have been able to backup and restore across WM5/WM6/WM6.5 ROMs. I've tried an older version of Sprite and it had some problem restoring the Contact/Calendar/etc. Perhaps this problem goes away for the newer version.
Sprite Backup is great for automatically backing up the entire device including files and settings. When I hard reset because I messed something up, Sprite makes it very easy to do a complete restore. When you are changing ROMs I take a more manual approach.
I backup the entire device using Sprite Backup to get all the files and settings on the device (just in case I forget anything). Using Total Commander, I zip up the following folders: Start Menu, Windows (just the files installed since the flash like Titanium CPR files and any file installed programs might save here), Program Files, Applicaton Data, My Documents, and Root folder. I also backup HKCU\Software and HKLM\Software registry entries. I copy those reg backup files to my computer and use a text editor to delete all entries that might cause a conflict (typically all HTC, Microsoft, IA Style, OEM folders).
Then when I need to change ROMs I have all the files and registries to get my device back on my feet very quickly. I don't have to reinstall all my software, nor go thru e-mails to find registration keys, or re-do each programs' settings. Most of their settings are stored in the registry, so its a very easy upgrade.
I haven't tried a recent version of Sprite. They may have improved the upgrading feature between ROMs and have better support for WM6.5 so my need to manually backup and edit registry entries might be already done automatically by Sprite.
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And what about Spb Backup?
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SPB Backup is better than Sprite... but PIM Backup is essential so you can backup your PIM from to time to time easily.
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SPB Backup is better than Sprite... but PIM Backup is essential so you can backup your PIM from to time to time easily.
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I agree but with spb you can also schedule backup's and choice only pim data.
yup but you can't separate the contacts, tasks and appointments in SPB Backup.
all r right but sometimes restoring from spb or sprite deletes new regestery values from new rom and we will not able to use of that rgu benefit.lots of time i got less ~4mb ram from usual coz of that complete restore and slight slower device.....
there's an option in SPB Backup (Customize Restore)... in System Data, you can uncheck Restore Registry.
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yup but you can't separate the contacts, tasks and appointments in SPB Backup.
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I agree, but is it usefull?
Ok folks, great input, but to tell you the truth, I would say you need both.
PIM Backup + your favorite backup program (I use SPB Backup) but have used Sprite as well.
Personally I will backup using SPB before I make a major change or test a Beta program just and sometimes (once a week if I have done any updates/installation of new software).
But, anytime I add any really important contacts/appts/tasks I will use PIM backup as well in case I decide to change my ROM (I usually just do a manual install of the cabs I want).
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all r right but sometimes restoring from spb or sprite deletes new regestery values from new rom and we will not able to use of that rgu benefit.lots of time i got less ~4mb ram from usual coz of that complete restore and slight slower device.....
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The last spb Backup version detects if you have a new rom installed and suggests a special restore for same device but different rom. It has worked very well for me when flashing new roms.
is it possible with one of these software to transfer sms from an older device to a new one without deleting sms stored on my new device..
I'm not sure I'm clear here
I have a tytn2 with thousand of messages that I want to keep
I have a tp2 with some messages that I want to merge with the old tytn2's messages.
don't want to erase everything accidentaly, please give me an advice
use PIM Backup to backup your sms on the tytn2 , then copy PIM Backup and the backup file to your tp2 , and restore the file on the tp2.
it will let you choose how to restore each item , overwrite existing info or just merge them~ keep an eye on it ,overwriting is by default
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all r right but sometimes restoring from spb or sprite deletes new regestery values from new rom and we will not able to use of that rgu benefit.lots of time i got less ~4mb ram from usual coz of that complete restore and slight slower device.....
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The advantage of SPB Backup is that you can choose to restore to a new ROM and so it does not overwrite the new system files and registries. I always use it after flashing a new ROM and it works very nicely.
I only recently discovered this myself, but pim backup can do quite a bit more than just backup pim.vol and cemail.vol. It also has a custom file backup, which is a wonderful feature and is very easy and intuitive to use. If you uncheck "binary", you can easily access the individual files (change backup extension from .pib to .zip). You can backup individual files or entire directories (like application data). It's well worth checking out. Just highlight "Custom" then click the 'Options' button to get going on it.
I want to try out different roms and different configurations, nut for that I would like to fully backup my device because its currently very well configured and i dont want to lose it. So if i mess something up or i dont like any other configuration then i shoul revert back and EVERYTHING is exactly as i left it
Whats the best solution/program to archive that?
How would I be able to test different roms but not losing my primary conf?
Please help
Thankts in advance.
Assuming you have your existing ROM image available to reflash, I'd personally recommend spb Backup. http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com
Although its not free it will do a complete system dump to a self extracting file.
I have used it on several occassions to go back to WM5 from WM6 ROMs.
It can NOT be used to restore between ROM versions though.
Simply use it to backup your existing system to an SD card and try out your new ROM. If you decide to go back, reflash to your original ROM and then run the backup .exe file from the SD card. This will give you the desired effect.
Sprite backup is also a good alternative to spb Backup apparently but I haven't personally tried it. http://www.spritesoftware.com
Regards
NIALL
I have added a few apps to my phone but before I get into changing rom should I back up phone? Whats a good app to back up phone and what do you do..backup phone when its working before adding a bunch of apps then after its all done can you do another back up??
Let me know
I downloaded advanced config tools and did 3 different cache changes that were reccomended to speed it up or something..so I decided to do it and tweaked mine.. Should I not back up now b/c of doing that??
you can use sprite backup
For me, i always, loose all programs after reset, it cleans out old junk i no longer use. But in case i need some save files or backup files for some programs, yes i do a backup for those.
Other than that, you should backup your contacts, call logs, messages, if needed. Best program to do all the above is PIM Backup, its a wonderful free tool that does the job PERFECTLY.
EnergyROM always has PIM Backup in it, which btw is the best ROM out there. Every time i want to place a new EnergyROM, i first do a backup of what i need, then flash then run PIM Backup again and restore. All done in less than 3 minutes
Cheers mate
Closing thread guys,
There are plenty of applications out to the public on backing up your pda.
Also this is an area for rom development.
Peace,
Joshua
Hello there.
Can anyone tell me if some program like Acronis True Image present, for HD2...
Just to make system image when system is adjusted as you like.
And if enything goes wrong, just format and restore system image, and not need to adjust enything again.
10x
for whole system backup:
SPB Backup (my personal favorite, customisable backups, comes with unpacker for PC), Sprite Backup, Resco Backup - all commercial
-> word of caution: be careful when changing ROMs, full restore may crash your system
for selective automated registry settings exports:
MortScript + FDC Task Manager (check in Mortscipt thread for script examples)
Thank you very much. I'll try SPB backup.
But I not understand about "full restore may crash your system"...
Can you please explain what you mean?
I have last official Malaysian ROM, and will never install any custom ROM... I dont need it. All I need is after adjustments and tweaks, just make backup of system, and if anything goes wrong ( after some bad program install, or some bad system change and forget how to go back) just restore all system, whith every programs installed and changes maked.
So is your caution important for me to? Or you tell about custom ROM-s
Sorry about my English
and big 10x
what I meant were stock ROM updates, but it applies to custom ones as well
assume you have official ROM version 1.48, and full system backup,
now after some time HTC releases new official ROM 1.65, you install the ROM upgrade, in the process the whole memory is erased, and now - if you do full restore, your system may (but does not have to) crash, because new ROM may mean new system settings, while restore will overwrite them with the old ones
that's why its good to do 2 separate backup - 1 for system, 1 for files (mails, contacts etc.)
additionally SPB and Sprite automatically discover that new ROM has been flashed and provide you with 3 levels of restore (I don't remember the details, but it's something like full, partial and max safe restore)
Thank you very much.
Of course i will make new back up, each time I update ROM or make some changes
Can you please help me again...
All I need is some Registry Values from this key:
(They was deleted after I install one stupid cab...)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\Sys temLink]
here you are:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink]
"HelveticaNeue LT 35 Thin"="\windows\tahoma.ttf,Tahoma"
"Helvetica Neue OTS"="\windows\tahoma.ttf,Tahoma"
Man, you really help me!
Thanks a lot!
Hi,
I have stock ROM, added some registry tweaks, CHT, installed some apps. Is there a way to "coppy" all that, so I could "load" it later, like disc image on PC?
Thank You.
partially, at least most configuration of CHT2.0 & rest of Sense, with CHTScheduler.
You might try something like SPB Backup, which can backup everything, and probably let you restore what you need to restore.