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I have a phone here, the Niki touch dual with a qwerty keyboard. The device ID is NEON200 and im unable to to flash it? wrong device ID. There are many differences such as, the stilus is colapsable and goes in the bottom left, the usb is behing a rubber door at the botton of the phone, power button is on the right hand side of the phone, sim card enters a door under the volume button.
very strange, going to have to cook my own rom to get one in there,
for interest its Telstra Australia branded (one of our major phone carriers) and it supports 850MHz and 1200Mhz HSDPA and UMTS !
Dave.
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=approval-bluetooth-sig-approves-the-htc-neon-200-an-indication-for-a-umts-touch
yes thats the one, I have dumped the rom if any one is interested, with the exception of part03
so the variant that telstra is selling can not be flashed with new ROMs unless it is specficially designed for it?
It seems that HardSPL cannot be flashed unless the device ID matches. This makes the ROM flashing difficult if not impossible. Unless a HardSPL flash file could be customised to suit the NEON200 device ID I believe. I may be wrong, I am still new to this.
My advice would be to AVOID all rom's and tools designed specifically for the NIKE and wait until someone finds out more about the NEON
Dave.au said:
I have a phone here, the Niki touch dual with a qwerty keyboard. The device ID is NEON200 and im unable to to flash it? wrong device ID. There are many differences such as, the stilus is colapsable and goes in the bottom left, the usb is behing a rubber door at the botton of the phone, power button is on the right hand side of the phone, sim card enters a door under the volume button.
very strange, going to have to cook my own rom to get one in there,
for interest its Telstra Australia branded (one of our major phone carriers) and it supports 850MHz and 1200Mhz HSDPA and UMTS !
Dave.
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Please dump the SPL:
pmemdump 0x8c000000 0x80000 spl-niki-neon200.bin
(pmemdump is part of itsutils by itsme, run it on PC with a activesync connection)
I will do, Ill get this phone back, its Danoss who owns this phone, see post no #5, here is the rom dump for anyone interested in adding it to their collection 57.8Mb RAR no password at
http://rapidshare.de/files/38517912/HTCNEON200_romdump.rar.html
Hi Jockyw2001, here is the dump you requested, Thanks for your interest!
http://rapidshare.com/files/90050852/spl-niki-neon200.bin.html
The SPL dump is okay. If I have some time left I will develop a SSPL and HardSPL for the NEON guys.
I think we need a new forum for NEON.
Different Hardware and same forum will be very confusing..
Like Elf an Vogue..
That might be a good idea, as it seems there is a new package in the same phone (nearly) and im sure it is going to throw off a few when they first start playing with it.
I would third that motion for a new NEON forum.
I support the new NEON Forum
Yes, my neon arrives today. I vote for a seperate forum also. Cut the confusion.
I agree with the new forum too. There are quite a few differences in the specs on these phones compared to the Nike/niki. After lugging around a Hermes for the last 2 years my wife loves this phone. Haven't told her theres no wifi yet.
Update: She knows about the wifi :-(
A few things I have discovered about the phone.
HHC (Htc Home Customiser) Doesn't work correctly. You can install and load it, change the settings but it never completes when you hit the save button.
CE Star Chinese character recognition and keyboard screws up the slide out keyboard functions.
hi, i just flashed my o2 xda mini s to the jaguar wm6 rom (fantastic btw) and now all the symbols on my keyboard are snafu'di.e when i press shift a i get ~ shift s i get !, and the * has gone awol totally!
any clues anyone? thinking i may need some sort of fix.
also is there anyway to get to the back of the keyboard with out the total dismantle job?? i think i got a stuck up key on my keyboard, cuz, it doesnt work when i jab it and every so often the unit will go into up scroll overdrive, and i gotta either jab the down key on the touch wheel, or belt the unit of something (yes, yes i know, not good)
muchos appreciated for any clues to either of these!!
The reason that your keys are wrong, is that the Jaguar ROM may be for a different localization....IE, Europe, Japan, Phillipines whereever, and for whatever reason, the Wizard keyboards in other areas have the symbols moved around on the beyboard. What you need to do, is find you a keymap settings.txt for the en-us keyboard, and then copy it into your Windows directory on your phone and it will fix that problem. Whether or not one of those exists for the Wizard I dont know, I know this fix from my days in the Excalibur forums though, because we had the same problem with the 6.1 ROMs from Asia. You may have to flash to a US ROM if we dont have a keymap.txt floating around somewhere. As to your second problem with the stuck key, I beleive that you will have to open your Wizard to fix that....unless it didnt do it before you flashed to the Jaguar ROM, then I would say that its the ROMs fault. I hope that helps out!
many thanks for the speedy reply! after a bit of hunting around, i came across this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317240 and it told me how to change the reg setting for the keyboard locale. one soft reset later, and i can type what i see again!!!
as for the sticky key, i stripped the phone as per the service manual, gave it all a bit of a wipe, checked for loose stuff, etc, stuck it all back together, and it seems to be a lot better, only going ape every so often now!! will probably invest in a new casing and see if that does the trick, as this ones all battered anyways. should of seen the partners face when he walked in and the phone is all spread out on the bed the same face incidently whenever the ps2s in bits!!
heh, glad I could be of service!
Okay so I recently purchased an i-mate Spartphone I have a couple of questions that I couldn't find thru the search feature.
1st I was wondering is the phone I have a Qtek 8500 (I think thats what I read on here) it only says imate on the outside and smartflip below the inner screen and say's imate on loading.
2nd when I use the camera all I see is static no picture... is there a way to fix this or should I load a different rom? I am thinking of running the rose or neo rom anyways (I have to get on my home computer and do the unlocks first I believe)
3rd I am also new to Winmo phones so I was wondering if there was any nice apps that anyone could point me towards.
Thanks in advance
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Okay so I recently purchased an i-mate Spartphone I have a couple of questions that I couldn't find thru the search feature.
1st I was wondering is the phone I have a Qtek 8500 (I think thats what I read on here) it only says imate on the outside and smartflip below the inner screen and say's imate on loading.
2nd when I use the camera all I see is static no picture... is there a way to fix this or should I load a different rom? I am thinking of running the rose or neo rom anyways (I have to get on my home computer and do the unlocks first I believe)
3rd I am also new to Winmo phones so I was wondering if there was any nice apps that anyone could point me towards.
Thanks in advance
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The phone is made by HTC but is also sold as other names such as i-mate smartflip.
I have an i-mate smart flip that I purchased on e-bay and was able to use the camera just fine with the original WM5 ROM. Though I must admit that after upgrading the ROM to Erofoch's Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional for HTC StarTrek the camera works even better with the camera night mode option.
This version of WM6 works amazing on this phone, it also has BatteryStatus set up with safe and quick overclocking.
It took me a while to figure out all the steps, there is so much great information in this forum that it can be a bit overwhelming. I was directed to this wiki web page which outlines the ROM upgrade process step by step. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...Trk_ROM_Update
For the Mobile 6.1 Pro ROM that I installed I only had to stop at step 2 because this ROM does the rest.
I hope this helps.
Kind regards,
Rudydb.
Okay I installed the Rose Rom by pampooh??(probably mispelled hope does not offend) anyways still just static on the camera not a huge deal for me I have a different camera phone for that purpose just was hoping it would fix it may be that I just got one with a bad camera but oh well
Yep, sounds like a bad camera. In general, when there is a driver issue, you will either get an error message when you launch the camera, or else a blank screen, but definitely not static.
iMate, Startrek, 3185, and a few other names are all the same phone. HTC sells the phone to Cellular carriers, and they can name it whatever they want. With the phone nerds here at XDA, the easiest way to refer to it is as "StarTrek", since this was the HTC code name for the phone. All the phones are basically alike, except for the Cingular/AT&T 3185, which has a larger battery, and twice the ROM (64MB instead of 32MB). You can buy the extended battery and associated back plate on eBay if you want it. All the versions of the phone run the same software and operating systems.
Software:
Tons of good software out there. What you will like is a matter of opinion. I can't live without:
1. Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 - Gives you text to speech, and awesome voice recognition.
2. Coreplayer - An actual working media player for the phone (not crappy like WMP).
3. Replacement calandar/tasks program - Tons out there, but I don't like the MS one.
4. Games - Again, find ones you like.
Just wondering if anyone knows of a ROM that allready has Internet Calling (VOIP) installed and working. Been trying forever to get this to work!
Thanks
I wish this feature would work 2 but 4 now I use SKYPE it's wonderful u can use it on many phones and computers it's GREEEAAAT ...
Yes, I have Skype and Fring as well but I would just like to have the VoIP on the phone working, it seems a little like VooDoo to get that thing running for some reason.
I could cook it in a rom specially for you if you are willing to buy me coffee .
I would love this too.
I now have two of these CDMA Touch Pro 2's that I wanna use around the house / office on my asterisk box.
let me know what you can hook up for a sweet rom that can have the VOIP built in as well as some other great things for texting without a carrier plan if possible and also some other great things like IRC and maybe palringo type apps.
thanks,
Nathan...
PM me or IM me about this if need b.
CDMA over GSM
I think, if I am understanding correctly, that you are asking for the video phone calls that the GSM networks offer...
We in the USA have CDMA and not GSM, CDMA network does not support video calls or video conferencing as the TP and TP2 have offered for European models. We are behind in technology and towers. I think they will eventually change the networks and give us something better.
As of now, I think that AT&T is the only one that is offering surfing the internet and talking on the phone, but I believe those are on their international phones. (not sure so dont quote me on that). But that offer still does not give you options to do video conferencing or anything of the sort.
In short, were screwed out of all these beautiful features because we are in a CDMA enabled location... Thinking about it, forget this, im moving to Amsterdam!!!
not me. I understand that the CDMA service in the US sucks. I am going to just use mine as a "extension to my asterisk box. so it is only going to be Wi-Fi only use. not cell service. thats what I have my new HTC Tilt 2 with AT&T for.
thanks,
nathan
- EZThunder, just let me know what coffee costs in your neighborhood !
-MapAZ04 - Nope, just want the native Windows VoIP to work on the phone over WiFi connections. My phone isn't even provisioned with a providor anymore, I just want to use it as a VoIP WiFI phone, otherwise it's not good for much. I'd like to be able to use this phone when traveling, using my VoIP connection to call home etc on.
It does work with Skype and Fring, but they are a little bit of a workaround because the phone is supposed to support SIP natively and the other two programs have their drawbacks.
I didn't realize WM supports SIP natively.
hammtech said:
- EZThunder, just let me know what coffee costs in your neighborhood !
-MapAZ04 - Nope, just want the native Windows VoIP to work on the phone over WiFi connections. My phone isn't even provisioned with a providor anymore, I just want to use it as a VoIP WiFI phone, otherwise it's not good for much. I'd like to be able to use this phone when traveling, using my VoIP connection to call home etc on.
It does work with Skype and Fring, but they are a little bit of a workaround because the phone is supposed to support SIP natively and the other two programs have their drawbacks.
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this is exactly what I was trying to say, just in much fewer words
so let me know what some coffee runs around your neck of the woods if you can throw together something like I was saying.
thanks,
nathan
I will donate $50 to the cause, but with a twist...
Make it a simple cab to work on all roms and phones.
I have tested about 10 roms today, (Not just me LOL, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618486&highlight=voip) I would install SipConfigTool_2_0_1.CAB & WM6VoIP.CAB & even SecondToday.CAB on roms with different Today skins.. (Touch Flow or whatever)...
On all roms, the today plug in "Internet calling" would not show.
I think the verizon and sprint must have sabatouged the possibility of VOIP or something.
Here is what I want.
I want the ability to switch between regular cell calls and VOIP.
A simple file edit or GUI like the gOD Shaun33 SipConfigTool_2_0_1.CAB
Can be switched from VOIP over WIFI or VOIP over reg cell data or reg cell phone via a button or a Today plug in..
To be able to use my Blue tooth headset.
Not use a third party app,, just the defualt - built in phone dialer so the ringing and other stuff.
Or a third party app that does not slow things down, activate your WIFI.. (like fring) and that wakes your phone up for a call, yet allows it to sleep to save on battery life.
Hell everyone is doing VOIP now days, especially with the Windows based VOIP server that will even run on Windows XP. www.3CX.com .... Its free.. I use it and we only use the softphone and a BUA-100 Plantronics BT USB device and www.JAWBONE.com and the quality is the best thing out there and you can answer and hang up by a click on the side of the BT headset, just like your cell phone, so you can keep your hands free and not have to sit by your computer.
Every rom I tried, the Today plug in did not work. I am trying this now as I type http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=574521 looks hopefull and maybe I will not have to pay $50.
Like most, I would try Shaun33 SipConfigTool_2_0_1.CAB and give up. I know I have tried the SipConfigTool_2_0_1.CAB & WM6VoIP.CAB on AT LEAST 12 phones over the last 3 or so years and never had success, so i just gave up..
Enough, I need it now and I will pay.
Ya, F it. I tried following the instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=574521 to a T, and I am not an idiot!
The phone companies want you to use their network, because that is how they make money.
Maybe your UK phones are different, but USA is driven by GRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!
$50 from me, who else is in?
hmmm, maybe this is why it will not work on sprint - verizon...
"The SIP VoIP build in WM 6.x supports only GSM (13.2 kbps) / g711alaw (64 kbps) / g711-ulaw (64 kbps) codecs"
from http://forum.ppcwarez.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=61730
EDIT: daaaa deerr da derr.. Codecs.. Not TDMA-CDMA ****.. duu.
can some gOD tweak the deep level stuff?
ppaa, ppaaaaaaaaaaa,,, PPPPLLLELELELLEAAASEEEE!!!
dewild1 said:
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$50 from me, who else is in?
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I'm looking for exactly what you are, so I'd be in too. I just bought a VoIP WIFI phone that looks like a cell phone from 1998 - I'd love to get one phone that does it all so I'm not carying around a bunch of phones and all of the tangled mess that goes with it.
dewild1 said:
hmmm, maybe this is why it will not work on sprint - verizon...
"The SIP VoIP build in WM 6.x supports only GSM (13.2 kbps) / g711alaw (64 kbps) / g711-ulaw (64 kbps) codecs"
from http://forum.ppcwarez.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=61730
EDIT: daaaa deerr da derr.. Codecs.. Not TDMA-CDMA ****.. duu.
can some gOD tweak the deep level stuff?
ppaa, ppaaaaaaaaaaa,,, PPPPLLLELELELLEAAASEEEE!!!
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Why would supporting GSM be an issue if VoIP can be used over Wifi?
Anyways, I will give it a shot and send you the beta rom. However, since I have no way of testing this thing (as I no longer have a Herman), you will have to give me feedback to let me know whether it works or not.
In the meantime, I am going to try a few different things in my Blue Angel (I know it is GSM, but I do not have a chip in there, so in theory it will work... in fact, it has worked in the past, only I did not want to pay for VoIP service)
this thread cracks me up...
One guy starts a thread & leaves out all of the important info & another talking about greed while offering up $50! LOL
Not even sure what you guys are after anymore..
But... you know the Touch Pro 2 does both GSM (in the U.S) & CDMA both (when unlocked @ ppcgeeks).... dunno, another couple of cents
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But... you know the Touch Pro 2 does both GSM (in the U.S) & CDMA both (when unlocked @ ppcgeeks).... dunno, another couple of cents
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Maybe so, but these people here have TP and not TP2. Besides, what the OP wants is the ability to use VoIP. At no point is anyone in this thread saying anything about wanting CDMA and GSM functionality.
egzthunder1 said:
Maybe so, but these people here have TP and not TP2. Besides, what the OP wants is the ability to use VoIP. At no point is anyone in this thread saying anything about wanting CDMA and GSM functionality.
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correct.
I jusjt want to use some WiFi type apps and mostly the VOIP functionality of the phone as it will be used as an extension to my asterisk box
egzthunder1 said:
Why would supporting GSM be an issue if VoIP can be used over Wifi?
Anyways, I will give it a shot and send you the beta rom. However, since I have no way of testing this thing (as I no longer have a Herman), you will have to give me feedback to let me know whether it works or not.
In the meantime, I am going to try a few different things in my Blue Angel (I know it is GSM, but I do not have a chip in there, so in theory it will work... in fact, it has worked in the past, only I did not want to pay for VoIP service)
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Key line...
"EDIT: daaaa deerr da derr.. Codecs.. Not TDMA-CDMA ****.. duu."
I did not have my head on right is what I was saying.
GSM or CDMA do nto mean anything. I read something about "GSM Codecs" and they were just talking about a compression lable. In VOIP its just compression and qaulity..
Never mind all that...
I would like one that works over WIFI or the cell network,(GSM or CDMA or TDMA or 4G or whatever, its a connection, sorry for the confusion)
I will check my PM.. If no body made it already, I will repost to keep the DREAM ALIVE! lol
Remeber, I think someone should make one that works with the default dialer and uses whatever built in sound device the phone uses.. This way it would work with any hardware and and ROM.. Whoever makes one like that, will be rich, I say there is a big demand for it.. Fring sucks.
Had VoIP Working!
I did manage to get this working by installing:
WM6VoIPFull.cab
Setup_VoIP_v0.3.cab
On my phone. However. I had just set it up with one trunk line and used it for a week or so. When I tried switching it to my working PBX with a tested valid account, it stopped working alltogether again. So I've spent the past few days on the road trying to get this working again, but with no luck at all. Maybe it is a combination of installing every VoIP enabler file I could find that got it working the first time, but for the life of me I can't even get it to work again with the trunk line.
Is there anyone out there that knows what registry keys have to be enabled to get this to work? I don't care if I have to set a key and then set it to read only to keep it on, I just want it to work
Also, is there a newer version of Setup_VoIP? That version never shows anything under the dialing plan tab no matter what I do.
I've tried everything to get this working again, including post number 9 at the following link:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=1610281
It sets the ServiceOn registry key and everything looks good, just no VoIP on the phone.
Also, if anyone is interested, the phone is not hitting the PBX at all, so it is not even attempting to make a connection (it is not AUTH failing or anything like that).
Hi,
according to following thread I got a question: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=783961
The HTCSense Service has launched now. My question is, will it work on a HD2? Do you need any updates oder something else?
And my next question is, which of these things are still working on the HD2?
http://www.htc.com/uk/htcsense/index.html
-> I know, that the loudness control of the ringtone is supported, but which of these things will work too?
And the most important thing which should work is the remote lock ability. Will this be possible on HD2? - still answered by myself!
Has anyone detailed information or maybe tried this service?
I preffer to buy a HD2 because this phone is the most capable for my requirements, and if HTCSense-Service is working too, I will buy it instantly
Greez zyclop
Edit: I have found some Information on the HTCSense.com page itself. Supported devices are currently only Desire HD and Desire Z.
Anyone knows if older devices will supported in future? Because e.g. Desire is the same as Desire Z except the keyboard!
i think its android only.............
Hmm, every device manufacturer sets focus on developing and improve Android or Windows Phone 7 devices. Why do they all forget WM 6.5 which is still not dead. That this will not work on WP 7 is clear, because of the restrictions WP 7 brings by itself. But for Windows Mobile 6.5 it would be possible to implement, maybe there is any equivalent solution to manage data and security via web-frontend?!
There is still another question unanswered:
Which of these features work with HD2?
http://www.htc.com/uk/htcsense/index.html
I passed my question about support of older/further devices to HTC, I'll post their reply as soon as I got answer.
Edit:
Microsoft My Phone is doing exactly the same what HTCSense.com provides. But it would be very great if I can synchronize my stuff witch HTC, and re-synchronize it with another phone, maybe an Android device in future. Or a Windows Phone 7 device... today I don't know which device will be my next. So therefor this would be very great.
Has anyone ever tried Microsoft My Phone or any other service to save phone data and lock phone if it gets lost/stolen?
zyclop said:
Hmm, every device manufacturer sets focus on developing and improve Android or Windows Phone 7 devices. Why do they all forget WM 6.5 which is still not dead. That this will not work on WP 7 is clear, because of the restrictions WP 7 brings by itself. But for Windows Mobile 6.5 it would be possible to implement, maybe there is any equivalent solution to manage data and security via web-frontend?!
There is still another question unanswered:
Which of these features work with HD2?
http://www.htc.com/uk/htcsense/index.html
I passed my question about support of older/further devices to HTC, I'll post their reply as soon as I got answer.
Edit:
Microsoft My Phone is doing exactly the same what HTCSense.com provides. But it would be very great if I can synchronize my stuff witch HTC, and re-synchronize it with another phone, maybe an Android device in future. Or a Windows Phone 7 device... today I don't know which device will be my next. So therefor this would be very great.
Has anyone ever tried Microsoft My Phone or any other service to save phone data and lock phone if it gets lost/stolen?
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I use microsoft my phone whenever I have to hard reset and it has always been very reliable......... basic but reliable........
The whole point of the htc sense web side of things is just to try and tempt people into moving to a htc device........
Although 6.5 might not be "dead" as far as xda is concerned, htc however probably do not really care about 6.5 anymore, there certainly will not be anymore 6.5 handsets released.......
Anything that can be acheived through sense.com can already be acheived through 3rd party app already available for 6.5.......
Okay, you think, the HD2 is the best choice if I want to have a WM6.5 device? Or should I wait for newer devices? Or will there never be new devices? I really don't like any other OS than WM, because it has many advantages, I guess more than any other OS.
Back to topic:
I even read the page from HTC again and there are only 4 points important to me. So which are working with HD2, too?
1. "Ever fumbled with your phone because it went off at full-blast during a meeting? Well, don’t worry! Now as soon as you lift your phone up to see who’s calling, the ringer volume gets lower. Want it silenced completely? Just flip it over."
2. "When you don’t want to miss that special call, your phone knows when and how to get your attention. For example, if it’s tucked away in your bag it will know to ring louder."
3. "Now when you look to see who’s calling, you get to see their latest social status updates or if they have a birthday coming up. The conversation starts before you say hello!"
4. "Don’t worry about missing the next turn when a call comes in. Your map stays on screen while a call bar gently slides its way into view."
All points can be found on http://www.htc.com/uk/htcsense/index.html
I'm not sure, but I think point 1 and 2 are working - are they? A few months ago I got a HD2 from my company. But I weren't able to check all of the stuff... Now I changed the company and don't have a HD2 anymore. I really want to have it to detach my XPERIA X1.
I dont think any new 6.5 devices will be released so yeah the HHD2 is definetely your best bet.........
1 + 2 are working.....
3 doesnt Im afraid.....
I dont know about 4 as I dont use my my phone for navigation, not yet anyway....
I use my phone as navi only in foreign cars, because my own car has a built in navi
Maybe anyone knows whether this is working or not.
Do you know which version of Sens/Manila is installed on latest HD2 stock rom? And is there any page or wiki, where I can see all the features of this version?