Can apps be stored on the SD card? Albeit via a hack.
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Phil
Yes i want to know this also?
Phil_UK said:
Can apps be stored on the SD card? Albeit via a hack.
Thanks
Phil
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From what i'v heard the phone has to be rooted first, which hasn't been done yet.
I may be wrong though.
Surely not much of an issue with the larger space for apps anyway. Needs root, but once that's there, I'm sure A2SD will follow.
Dayz xxx
you can download apps from the web put them on your sd card and install them to your phone (they stay on sd card) with out root. go to the market download "appsinstaller"
go to Settings>Applications> Check Unknown sources and your ready to go.
you just put .apk files on your sd card and open the app. thats it
Yes you can install .apk files from SD and yes the .apk files stay on your SD card to install them another time,
but the apps are not running from SD card, nor are they installed on your SD card, they install onto your fone, and take up fone memory.
UNLESS you get root and run an Apps 2 SD type application.
Dayzee said:
Yes you can install .apk files from SD and yes the .apk files stay on your SD card to install them another time,
but the apps are not running from SD card, nor are they installed on your SD card, they install onto your fone, and take up fone memory.
UNLESS you get root and run an Apps 2 SD type application.
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yep, that is a fact, unless your phone is rooted its not possible.
sorry my bad misunderstanding
Phil_UK said:
Can apps be stored on the SD card? Albeit via a hack.
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This question isalso very important for me before Buying such an expensive phone!
Any good news or still impossible? Because i read everywhere then with a rooted Hero it is still not possible to install on SD cards.
Never impossible!! Its android not apple... > However, I reckon Aps 2 SD will be done on the hero at some point - rooting is already there.
Point of info - The Hero has around 150MB of space left for apps after a factory reset. The Magic has 295MB with the standard ROM - HUGE difference isn't it and I was gobsmacked, so maybe apps2SD is more needed than I thought on Hero....
That said, the hero ROM has a lot of stuff in the ROM that has to be added on Magic - twitter apps and widgets, Weather apps and widgets, sense UI, Loads of other pretty but big widgets built in. I may start to look at anything I can remove using Root Explorer - I never use the built in You Tube App, Footprints looks like it can go (10mb big I think..) and a few others...
Daisy xxx
Well Hero Has been Rooted Already and i mean its just a matter of time until developers gets started on their work.
Apps2sd has been done for both the G1 and the HTC magic and soon the Hero as it is 100% Possible.
btw. just like Dayzee said the phone already has a good amount of space for apps. or at least i dont see the need for it.
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Sorry, i am a noob in Android OS. Just wondering where does the application install to? If it installs to the SD card, what would happen if i change the SD card to a new one? Anyway to back up?
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All apps install to the phone so you're OK there, but some apps have caches or maps or folders on the SD so you do need to have a card present really.
You can install apps from apk packages stored on the SD (Like installer packages) but the app unpacks to the fone memory.
Daisy
thanks.
Does it mean the phone will run out of storage faster if i keep installing applications? Compare to Windows mobile, i can choose to install to memory card instead of using phone memory/storage. Is there anyway i can do this?
LOL Well, I can't say for sure on hero, but on the Magic which is VERY similar there's about 290 megs available for apps on the phone after a full wipe - I have around 50 apps on mine ranging from a few KB to 15mb for co pilot and I've used 80mb of space leaving another 200+ or so.... - The apps for the most part are small - media etc is stored on SD so you likely won't have much of a problem.
Also since stuff is accessible on the fly from the market, there are some things you can get and install in mins on your fone when you need em, then uninstall afterwards... Knowing you can get them at any time from the market.
cheers for the quick reply. Much appreciated.
SOO the hero can not install apps to SD card
thats a bad news
what if we want to store a gameboy advance game or a sega mega drive or any other game in the hero ?
one gameboy advance game = 16mb
one sega mega drive game = 2,5,7mb
other games = 1 to 15mb
that mean the phone will run out of storage
what about apps2sd that can be downloaded from this forum?
i don't think apps2sd works without the phone being rooted first.
i think i saw a rooting thread in the hero android development forum....
Aqrab said:
SOO the hero can not install apps to SD card
thats a bad news
what if we want to store a gameboy advance game or a sega mega drive or any other game in the hero ?
one gameboy advance game = 16mb
one sega mega drive game = 2,5,7mb
other games = 1 to 15mb
that mean the phone will run out of storage
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I would've thought that in most cases, the emulator would need to exist on the phone itself, but the ROMs (i.e. games) could be loaded in from sd card.
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Dave
foxmeister said:
I would've thought that in most cases, the emulator would need to exist on the phone itself, but the ROMs (i.e. games) could be loaded in from sd card.
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Dave
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Think this is correct. I've not tried emulators yet but I do have DOOM and the game app is installed to the built in phone storage but the main bulk (.wads and sound files) are all on the sd card so in theory 280ish mb should do u fine as long as ur using a micro sd card
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i don't think apps2sd works without the phone being rooted first.
i think i saw a rooting thread in the hero android development forum....
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Is that mean I have to root the Hero first?
I thought Hero already come with the option where to install the apps...
Now I'm not sure whether I want to move to Hero or stay using Magic with "perfected" SPL (this SPL gives me headache)
yes, you would have to root any device apart from the dev phones maybe....
HTC will not sell a device that is already rooted, as they want people to use it how they designed it, and not allow people who don't knwo what they're doing to bugger it up accidentally.
no doubt it'll get fully rooted soon.
Hello.
How to get apps to sd card on rooted htc hero, and the orginal ROM. Please help me.
PS. Sorry for my poor english.
The Friendly User Manual says you cannot do it.
Unless you have some religious concern against it, move to MoDaCo ROM.
if you have rooted the phone, you just download apps2sd2 from the market and it does it for you.
if you have NOT rooted your phone, forget it. you can't.
go forth and Root, young man!
I can't find apps2sd2 on the market.
kurdak said:
I can't find apps2sd2 on the market.
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Try 'AppsToSD 2'. Appears in the market for me as that.
I believe App Manager has a backup feature, which doesn't need root.
Backing up apps to SD is a completely different animal to "Apps To SD".
The former simply backs up the APK files to your SD card - the physical apps remain on the phone itself.
The latter allows you to *run* applications from your SD card, so that they do not consume any phone memory. In addition, future app installations will go to SD card too.
Regards,
Dave
I realize this is a n00b question, but I would appreciate an answer. This is the first time in a long time that I've had a non-rooted android device, so I can't use titanium to restore all of my apps/settings. I had a lot of apps installed via A2SD on my Evo, and I have transferred that SD card to my 3D. Is there a way to access those apps on the 3D, and retain the settings/save games from them? Specifically things like Angry Birds, X Construction, etc.
I assume the 3D supports A2SD out of the box, since I have the option to move apps to the SD card.
Thanks,
Dave
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I realize this is a n00b question, but I would appreciate an answer. This is the first time in a long time that I've had a non-rooted android device, so I can't use titanium to restore all of my apps/settings. I had a lot of apps installed via A2SD on my Evo, and I have transferred that SD card to my 3D. Is there a way to access those apps on the 3D, and retain the settings/save games from them? Specifically things like Angry Birds, X Construction, etc.
I assume the 3D supports A2SD out of the box, since I have the option to move apps to the SD card.
Thanks,
Dave
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If you are using native A2SD look for a file on SD card called .android secure, copy the contents and paste them into the same file on 3D SD card. Shoot me if I am wrong
Near as I can tell it can't be done with whats available. Nothing I could find on decrypting asec files.
I even tried copying over an asec file for a game that's currently installed and moved to my SDcard. The app doesn't even show up with the old asec.
Cant you just utilize the "Move to SD" option that is in each Applications properties window?
Settings --> Applications --> Manage Applications --> All tab --> (Application you want to move) --> Move to SD Card
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Cant you just utilize the "Move to SD" option that is in each Applications properties window?
Settings --> Applications --> Manage Applications --> All tab --> (Application you want to move) --> Move to SD Card
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The apps are already on the SD card (I moved the SD card from my Evo to the 3d). I just want to make them available on the 3d...
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The apps are already on the SD card (I moved the SD card from my Evo to the 3d). I just want to make them available on the 3d...
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I'm sorry, I misread your post.
Since I haven't messed with native a2sd much I can only give suggestions.
Are you talking about native a2sd or DT A2SD
Have you tried to enable the a2sd feature on the phone?
If you have then the only thing I can think to do is put the sdcard back in your evo and move all the apps back to the phone. back up those apps to the sdcard and then put it back in your 3D and install them from there.
I'll have some tutorials up tomorrow as soon as I get my phone on how to do a couple of different things. This will be one of them.
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Since I haven't messed with native a2sd much I can only give suggestions.
Are you talking about native a2sd or DT A2SD
Have you tried to enable the a2sd feature on the phone?
If you have then the only thing I can think to do is put the sdcard back in your evo and move all the apps back to the phone. back up those apps to the sdcard and then put it back in your 3D and install them from there.
I'll have some tutorials up tomorrow as soon as I get my phone on how to do a couple of different things. This will be one of them.
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Is it true that you have to have root to get DT A2SD to work?
I am coming from a rooted evo and have DT A2SD and would like to use it on the 3D also. Would it be best to partition the sd card when you first get the 3D. I seem to remember that partition wipes the sd card.
texasez said:
Is it true that you have to have root to get DT A2SD to work?
I am coming from a rooted evo and have DT A2SD and would like to use it on the 3D also. Would it be best to partition the sd card when you first get the 3D. I seem to remember that partition wipes the sd card.
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You need to be rooted to use DT a2sd, so I don't think that will be an option for us until we get root.
You can't just copy the apps from the SD card to your new phone, and the application data is still stored on your old phone in the /data/ directory so you're out of luck until we have root.
ok so i have an hauwie Ideos s7 fat on 2.1-update1 (not the newer slim one which already has the update to 2.2).
its not tied to any network just use it at home on wifi.
i would like to know how to install apps on the external sd in stead of the internal also how to get to the folder which holds pictures and videos so i can move them to create more room. it doesnt have to much internal memory so by installing everything on the sd i plan to improve usage.
i have searched the google and have searched this site and various others and havent found the answer to my question.
so any help given would be great thank u
ps would also like to be able to to move existing installed apps to the external sd as well thank u
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ok so i have an hauwie Ideos s7 fat on 2.1-update1 (not the newer slim one which already has the update to 2.2).
its not tied to any network just use it at home on wifi.
i would like to know how to install apps on the external sd in stead of the internal also how to get to the folder which holds pictures and videos so i can move them to create more room. it doesnt have to much internal memory so by installing everything on the sd i plan to improve usage.
i have searched the google and have searched this site and various others and havent found the answer to my question.
so any help given would be great thank u
ps would also like to be able to to move existing installed apps to the external sd as well thank u
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You either need to install the Froyo update (since moving apps to the SD started as a default feature in Froyo) or root your device.
Theonew said:
You either need to install the Froyo update (since moving apps to the SD started as a default feature in Froyo) or root your device.
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i think i rooted it how do u know if u did for sure?
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i think i rooted it how do u know if u did for sure?
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Use this app: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.joeykrim.rootcheck&hl=en.
root check said "congratulations this device has root access"
imevilbob said:
root check said "congratulations this device has root access"
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Great, so that means your device is rooted. Now just use this app: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD&hl=en.
im having problems partitioning out the sd card
i got the partitions to work, now i dont get how to get the apps to install to the sd card
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im having problems partitioning out the sd card
i got the partitions to work, now i dont get how to get the apps to install to the sd card
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Use the app to transfer whichever apps you want to the new partition. Also set it to automatically link new apps to the sd partition, if that's what you want.
If you're having trouble, just Google it. There are hundreds of guides for using Link2SD, and thousands covering all kinds of ways to move apps to the sd card. Here's one to try.
I have a hipstreet phoenix tablet running jb 4.2.2 and would like to flash ustom rom and or kernal. im havig issues with low space due to apps only install on internal 1gb sytem memory and not the 16gb internal sdcard or my external sd. i have rooted and installed apps2sd but it doesnt move the whole file only part of it. also bluetooth diconects at screen shutoff wich i hear is a problom with 4.2.2. i would like to be able to have a custom kernal to help manage ram better and hopefully find a way to have apps nativly ran from internal 16gb and not the 1gb system memory. any help on this wold be great. i dont want to brick my tablet
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I have a hipstreet phoenix tablet running jb 4.2.2 and would like to flash ustom rom and or kernal. im havig issues with low space due to apps only install on internal 1gb sytem memory and not the 16gb internal sdcard or my external sd. i have rooted and installed apps2sd but it doesnt move the whole file only part of it. also bluetooth diconects at screen shutoff wich i hear is a problom with 4.2.2. i would like to be able to have a custom kernal to help manage ram better and hopefully find a way to have apps nativly ran from internal 16gb and not the 1gb system memory. any help on this wold be great. i dont want to brick my tablet
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Same problem any help?
yea
yea. same problom. im asuming i could still flash a custom rom and keep the kernal stock but whats the point. this tablet has quite a few issues that are quite annoying. im glad i didnt pay full price for it.
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I have a hipstreet phoenix tablet running jb 4.2.2 and would like to flash ustom rom and or kernal. im havig issues with low space due to apps only install on internal 1gb sytem memory and not the 16gb internal sdcard or my external sd. i have rooted and installed apps2sd but it doesnt move the whole file only part of it. also bluetooth diconects at screen shutoff wich i hear is a problom with 4.2.2. i would like to be able to have a custom kernal to help manage ram better and hopefully find a way to have apps nativly ran from internal 16gb and not the 1gb system memory. any help on this wold be great. i dont want to brick my tablet
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I've been trying to figure out just how to root this thing. I picked one up on sale, and while limited, it seems alright for the price. That 1GB app install storage partition is super annoying though. I'm willing ti live with it but only if I can root the thing... What method did you use to root it???
I used Kingo root, you have to install the SDK drivers and roots it. I've installed xposed moduals they work fine as well. Where I'm stuck is how to install a custom recovery like cwm or twrp. Any help on this from someone would be appreciated. Not much info for this tablet. On a side note is there any cm ROMs for this tab.
For what it's worth, I was eventually able to root the thing without having to locate a compatible ROM by using a free windows application called MoboGenie .. once the program is installed and loaded on your Windows PC, connect the device via USB, and give it about 5-10 minutes to find and install the driver it needs (MoboGenie did this all automatically, just took a little time). Once it does, it should start populating the screen with details about the connected device. In the Toolbox section (down the left side), there is a "Root" button. Click it and then confirm and it pushes SU onto the device automatically... Takes about 2 minutes. Then you disconnect the device and reboot it... After that, it's persistently rooted! You can even unroot by following the same steps in MoboGenie (if you click on "Root" again and confirm, it simply removes the root from the device - too easy!)
I tried it (just for fun) with a Samsung Note 3, but MoboGenie could not root that device, so clearly its powers are limited; however it works perfectly with the Hipstreet Phoenix, so I'm happy
MoboGenie link: www_mobogenie_com
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Oh and to help conserve precious app data space, I found that, after rooting, the Lucky Patcher app does a seamless job of moving app data "to sd card" which basically results in moving the data to the larger partition. You can do this as a batch action in Lucky Patcher, or one by one.
One note though - I foolishly bought a 32GB microSD card to leave in the tablet full time, but the tablet unmounts the damn thing pretty much any time it's put on standby, and you have to deliberately tell it to mount the card every time you want to use it. This means it's hopeless for putting app data onto a microSD card on these tablets... which sucks, but oh well.
Next time, I'm buying a Samsung Galaxy Note tablet... they're by far the best tablets (and phones) on the market, and though they're not cheap, you definitely get what you pay for!
I have a new problem, I modifiedcthe build prop Noe I'm stuckbij a boot loop. Anyone know where to download the ROM and flash tool for this tablet
bigshowjh said:
I have a new problem, I modifiedcthe build prop Noe I'm stuckbij a boot loop. Anyone know where to download the ROM and flash tool for this tablet
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That's why I ended up using Mobogenie -- couldn't find a ROM that worked with it.
On a side note, the first Phoenix tablet I had, after rooting with Mobogenie, I used Android Tuner and applied the Partition Trim function.. it seemed to work until I rebooted the device and it went into an infinite boot loop. Seems the device is REALLY easy to corrupt, and the trim effectively bricked it. I contacted Hipstreet and got them to replace it under warrantee (cost me nothing, too). Just if you DO go that route, don't mention what you did, just tell them it bricked itself.
Saturn13 said:
That's why I ended up using Mobogenie -- couldn't find a ROM that worked with it.
On a side note, the first Phoenix tablet I had, after rooting with Mobogenie, I used Android Tuner and applied the Partition Trim function.. it seemed to work until I rebooted the device and it went into an infinite boot loop. Seems the device is REALLY easy to corrupt, and the trim effectively bricked it. I contacted Hipstreet and got them to replace it under warrantee (cost me nothing, too). Just if you DO go that route, don't mention what you did, just tell them it bricked itself.
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Ok
1st off I just bought my 1st tablet and it was this one. I instantly fell in love with it thinking I had found some great deal. Then after having it for about a week I started getting the insufficient storage message. I was about to return it when I found this thread. I used mobogenie to root it. THIS WAS SO EASY especially since I'm a noob. I installed lucky patcher from google play store but it didnt give me the option to move to sd card. So I used Link2SD. Which works fine on all the apps I have downloaded but not the apps native to the OS.
So my questions are
How do I get rid of the apps native to the OS? And/or move them to the external SD which the device calls NAND flash.
Even with moving the apps to SD which is the partitioned storage space(NAND Flash) I can only download apps to the limited internal storage before I can then move them using LinkSD. So say I want to download hearthstone which is 707 mb, and too large for the internal storage space. Is there a way to download it to the NAND Falsh section directly?
I also bought a external 64GB sd card cause one of my friends said that would fix the problem. How do I download a large game directly to that with this Tablet?
Am I asking too much of this tablet? Should I just keep it for a bit to get used to tablets then upgrade to a more expensive monster in a few months? Im having so much fun so far messing with it I kind of just it to be my Frankenstein and play with it till it breaks......errr I mean Bricks.
Please help me get my nerd on,
Im officially a enthusiast
KindBob said:
How do I get rid of the apps native to the OS? And/or move them to the external SD which the device calls NAND flash.
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I use TitaniumBackup with my rooted device. It makes freezing, detaching from market (so they won't update themelves), and removing system apps really easy.
KindBob said:
Even with moving the apps to SD which is the partitioned storage space(NAND Flash) I can only download apps to the limited internal storage before I can then move them using LinkSD. So say I want to download hearthstone which is 707 mb, and too large for the internal storage space. Is there a way to download it to the NAND Falsh section directly?
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I have found no ways to re-allocate the app space partition and yeah, large apps are never going to install, but smaller apps seem to work as long as we move to SD immediately after any installs or updates.
KindBob said:
I also bought a external 64GB sd card cause one of my friends said that would fix the problem. How do I download a large game directly to that with this Tablet?
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You cannot. I did the same thing, but I find you have to MANUALLY mount the SD card every time you want to access it - as soon as you put it to sleep, it unmounts the damn external card. This makes it USELESS for app installs... just data like videos, music, etc... even then, it's a pain.
KindBob said:
Am I asking too much of this tablet? Should I just keep it for a bit to get used to tablets then upgrade to a more expensive monster in a few months? Im having so much fun so far messing with it I kind of just it to be my Frankenstein and play with it till it breaks......errr I mean Bricks.
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Sadly, yes I think so... I like mine, too, but compared to my Note 2 phone, it's a little pathetic
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You cannot. I did the same thing, but I find you have to MANUALLY mount the SD card every time you want to access it - as soon as you put it to sleep, it unmounts the damn external card. This makes it USELESS for app installs... just data like videos, music, etc... even then, it's a pain.
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Thank you so much!
I dont seem to be having this problem with SD card mounting though
KindBob said:
Thank you so much!
I dont seem to be having this problem with SD card mounting though
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You're lucky then I contacted support through that lame-ass support app that only sometimes connects to their system, and was told point-blank that there is no way to re-allocate the install space (the 1gb area) to make more basic room.
In the end, I disabled all automatic Play updating for all apps (I check and apply them manually instead, as it eats precious install space.) I use LuckyPatcher for moving all app to SD one installed, and TitaniumBackup to remove unnecessary pre-installed stuff. Bummer is, no big games, ever..
Hello all.
I am having the same issues.
I have a 16GB Phoenix Hipstreet, stuck in a boot loop.
I can't load TWRP or anything else, as I am a novice user..
However, that program MOBOGENIE sounds like what I need, however after searching everywhere, I can't find a trust worthy looking source to download, as many have been de-listed due to not being supported or something anymore.
This sounds like it would fix my problems in a heart beat.
Does any one have access to an installer?
I've tried all I can think of.
Thanks in advance.