I realize this is a n00b question, but I would appreciate an answer. This is the first time in a long time that I've had a non-rooted android device, so I can't use titanium to restore all of my apps/settings. I had a lot of apps installed via A2SD on my Evo, and I have transferred that SD card to my 3D. Is there a way to access those apps on the 3D, and retain the settings/save games from them? Specifically things like Angry Birds, X Construction, etc.
I assume the 3D supports A2SD out of the box, since I have the option to move apps to the SD card.
Thanks,
Dave
dodgeboy said:
I realize this is a n00b question, but I would appreciate an answer. This is the first time in a long time that I've had a non-rooted android device, so I can't use titanium to restore all of my apps/settings. I had a lot of apps installed via A2SD on my Evo, and I have transferred that SD card to my 3D. Is there a way to access those apps on the 3D, and retain the settings/save games from them? Specifically things like Angry Birds, X Construction, etc.
I assume the 3D supports A2SD out of the box, since I have the option to move apps to the SD card.
Thanks,
Dave
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If you are using native A2SD look for a file on SD card called .android secure, copy the contents and paste them into the same file on 3D SD card. Shoot me if I am wrong
Near as I can tell it can't be done with whats available. Nothing I could find on decrypting asec files.
I even tried copying over an asec file for a game that's currently installed and moved to my SDcard. The app doesn't even show up with the old asec.
Cant you just utilize the "Move to SD" option that is in each Applications properties window?
Settings --> Applications --> Manage Applications --> All tab --> (Application you want to move) --> Move to SD Card
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Cant you just utilize the "Move to SD" option that is in each Applications properties window?
Settings --> Applications --> Manage Applications --> All tab --> (Application you want to move) --> Move to SD Card
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The apps are already on the SD card (I moved the SD card from my Evo to the 3d). I just want to make them available on the 3d...
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The apps are already on the SD card (I moved the SD card from my Evo to the 3d). I just want to make them available on the 3d...
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I'm sorry, I misread your post.
Since I haven't messed with native a2sd much I can only give suggestions.
Are you talking about native a2sd or DT A2SD
Have you tried to enable the a2sd feature on the phone?
If you have then the only thing I can think to do is put the sdcard back in your evo and move all the apps back to the phone. back up those apps to the sdcard and then put it back in your 3D and install them from there.
I'll have some tutorials up tomorrow as soon as I get my phone on how to do a couple of different things. This will be one of them.
unCoRrUpTeD said:
Since I haven't messed with native a2sd much I can only give suggestions.
Are you talking about native a2sd or DT A2SD
Have you tried to enable the a2sd feature on the phone?
If you have then the only thing I can think to do is put the sdcard back in your evo and move all the apps back to the phone. back up those apps to the sdcard and then put it back in your 3D and install them from there.
I'll have some tutorials up tomorrow as soon as I get my phone on how to do a couple of different things. This will be one of them.
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Is it true that you have to have root to get DT A2SD to work?
I am coming from a rooted evo and have DT A2SD and would like to use it on the 3D also. Would it be best to partition the sd card when you first get the 3D. I seem to remember that partition wipes the sd card.
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Is it true that you have to have root to get DT A2SD to work?
I am coming from a rooted evo and have DT A2SD and would like to use it on the 3D also. Would it be best to partition the sd card when you first get the 3D. I seem to remember that partition wipes the sd card.
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You need to be rooted to use DT a2sd, so I don't think that will be an option for us until we get root.
You can't just copy the apps from the SD card to your new phone, and the application data is still stored on your old phone in the /data/ directory so you're out of luck until we have root.
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Can apps be stored on the SD card? Albeit via a hack.
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Phil
Yes i want to know this also?
Phil_UK said:
Can apps be stored on the SD card? Albeit via a hack.
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Phil
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From what i'v heard the phone has to be rooted first, which hasn't been done yet.
I may be wrong though.
Surely not much of an issue with the larger space for apps anyway. Needs root, but once that's there, I'm sure A2SD will follow.
Dayz xxx
you can download apps from the web put them on your sd card and install them to your phone (they stay on sd card) with out root. go to the market download "appsinstaller"
go to Settings>Applications> Check Unknown sources and your ready to go.
you just put .apk files on your sd card and open the app. thats it
Yes you can install .apk files from SD and yes the .apk files stay on your SD card to install them another time,
but the apps are not running from SD card, nor are they installed on your SD card, they install onto your fone, and take up fone memory.
UNLESS you get root and run an Apps 2 SD type application.
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Yes you can install .apk files from SD and yes the .apk files stay on your SD card to install them another time,
but the apps are not running from SD card, nor are they installed on your SD card, they install onto your fone, and take up fone memory.
UNLESS you get root and run an Apps 2 SD type application.
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yep, that is a fact, unless your phone is rooted its not possible.
sorry my bad misunderstanding
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Can apps be stored on the SD card? Albeit via a hack.
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This question isalso very important for me before Buying such an expensive phone!
Any good news or still impossible? Because i read everywhere then with a rooted Hero it is still not possible to install on SD cards.
Never impossible!! Its android not apple... > However, I reckon Aps 2 SD will be done on the hero at some point - rooting is already there.
Point of info - The Hero has around 150MB of space left for apps after a factory reset. The Magic has 295MB with the standard ROM - HUGE difference isn't it and I was gobsmacked, so maybe apps2SD is more needed than I thought on Hero....
That said, the hero ROM has a lot of stuff in the ROM that has to be added on Magic - twitter apps and widgets, Weather apps and widgets, sense UI, Loads of other pretty but big widgets built in. I may start to look at anything I can remove using Root Explorer - I never use the built in You Tube App, Footprints looks like it can go (10mb big I think..) and a few others...
Daisy xxx
Well Hero Has been Rooted Already and i mean its just a matter of time until developers gets started on their work.
Apps2sd has been done for both the G1 and the HTC magic and soon the Hero as it is 100% Possible.
btw. just like Dayzee said the phone already has a good amount of space for apps. or at least i dont see the need for it.
I have rooted my optimus one.
just wanna know which are d apps that are neCessary to remain in the phone memory.
so that i cn move rest to sd.
Widgets should remain in the phone memory. Everything else that doesn't run frequently should go to the SD card
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Widgets should remain in the phone memory. Everything else that doesn't run frequently should go to the SD card
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What about keyboards,go sms,maps n youtube??
Oh yea. I forgot about those. Keyboards and go sms. I think it's okay to move youtube and maps onto the sd card
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Oh yea. I forgot about those. Keyboards and go sms. I think it's okay to move youtube and maps onto the sd card
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K.
unable to move maps n youtube.
stil woried abt lockscreen n launchers.
Are you using the stock ROM? Apps that are in /system/app cannot be moved to the SD. If you installed it via downloading/installing from the market or somewhere else, you can move it.
Everything that feels like it should be launched no matter what or those that need to be started quickly on boot, keep it on the phone memory.
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Are you using the stock ROM? Apps that are in /system/app cannot be moved to the SD. If you installed it via downloading/installing from the market or somewhere else, you can move it.
Everything that feels like it should be launched no matter what or those that need to be started quickly on boot, keep it on the phone memory.
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Yeah. m on stock.
did move sum apps to sd via app 2 sd enabler.
Cmon guys I thougjt it was safe to move all sh#t to sd
It's safe. It's just that apps that need to be started on boot must be there as soon as it can. Read and write speeds on the SD card is much slower than on the phone memory.
Well he didnt ask for fast boot
It's not about fast booting It's about getting the things you need as fast as you can. For example, I need a widget to load as fast as it can since it has to be there as soon as the phone boots. That was my point
Everything that you don't use everyday move to SDcard (if possible). If you move favourite apps to SD and you acces them all day long you will shorten the SDcard's life.
I have void with a2sd enabled. So all user applications are on sd. Can I use titanium backup to move some apps to internal memory?
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I have void with a2sd enabled. So all user applications are on sd. Can I use titanium backup to move some apps to internal memory?
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I used Titanium to move a lot of stuff over to the SD from Internal... Stuff in the /system directory doesn't affect your phone's "Internal Storage Space" as reported in the Settings menu since /data and /system are separate partitions. Apart from /system apps, the only thing that I would want to move to the SD that it couldn't move was the PayPal App from the app-private location. Going into ADB wouldn't allow me to do it either.
Titanium also allowed me to uninstall a bunch of the **** that came installed like game demos. This did not free up additional storage space, with the exception of what it removed from Dalvik-Cache. Which, btw is going to be your biggest issue... Some ROM's allow you to move this to the /cache partition, but this is a relatively small partition (~56MB) on this phone and my Dalvik-Cache currently takes up ~90MB.
Pls reply here guys.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941156
I use app 2 sd to move everything I dont need frequently on SD, than just long press on those program from app 2 sd and Open them.
It's a bit tricky and I dont know other ways (on the home screen most of SD apps wont appear...) but I never had slow opening and the like
Everything was ok till xtesterday.
today i rebooted ma cell,
and all d apps disappeared of sd.
though sd is accessible via file manager,gallery.
i tried formattingsd,cell reset.
bt all in vain.
cant install from file manager.
cant even install from market.
even unable to unmount ma card.
any solution???
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I used Titanium to move a lot of stuff over to the SD from Internal... Stuff in the /system directory doesn't affect your phone's "Internal Storage Space" as reported in the Settings menu since /data and /system are separate partitions. Apart from /system apps, the only thing that I would want to move to the SD that it couldn't move was the PayPal App from the app-private location. Going into ADB wouldn't allow me to do it either.
Titanium also allowed me to uninstall a bunch of the **** that came installed like game demos. This did not free up additional storage space, with the exception of what it removed from Dalvik-Cache. Which, btw is going to be your biggest issue... Some ROM's allow you to move this to the /cache partition, but this is a relatively small partition (~56MB) on this phone and my Dalvik-Cache currently takes up ~90MB.
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I used Titanium again and used it to incorporate the updated GApps into the ROM. I knew that I had about 56MB free on the system partition. Putting Gmail, Maps, Street view, Market and anything else that I could find freed 30MB on the data partition.
Goofy problem but every rom I have tried will not update tweetdeck properly in the background with the screen black, except for xtrsense. Even the original stock rom does not work properly at doing this. Has anyone else had the same problem? Is there a fix?
I would love to be able to go to one of the 2.2 or 2.3 roms but i need tweetdeck to update properly on my accounts.
Side question - will there be a 2.2 or 2.3 for xtrsense?
Side question 2 - I am going to be searching for this but figured i would throw it in just incase I can not figure it out. I loaded the gscript for the apps2sd but I cant get any apps to the sd card. It is not even an option when I go to the manage apps. Like I said, I am going to search for this one but while I was typing I figured I would throw it in.
Tweetdeck is one of my key apps and I have no trouble at all with it on CELB Froyo or GSB. The only ROM I had an issue with was a later version of Nonsensikal. For some reason, that had an Autokiller-like aggressive memory setting and Tweetdeck would not stay open in the background.
Unlike many other twitter clients, Tweetdeck has no way to autostart and seems to have no server component to get updates, and aggressive memory settings will close the app when it is in the background. If you are using autokiller or something like it, using the optimum preset seems to work pretty well. Just vanilla GSB settings are just fine.
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Side question - will there be a 2.2 or 2.3 for xtrsense?
Side question 2 - I am going to be searching for this but figured i would throw it in just incase I can not figure it out. I loaded the gscript for the apps2sd but I cant get any apps to the sd card. It is not even an option when I go to the manage apps. Like I said, I am going to search for this one but while I was typing I figured I would throw it in.
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Gscript for Apps2SD? I never heard of a GScript for that capability. There's an Apps2SD flashable zip which adds the Apps2SD script to your phone, if that's what you're talking about, but you don't use it in GScript.
Technically and completely literally, there never can be a 2.2 or 2.3 version of xtrSENSE because xtrSENSE is (currently) based on the July OTA 2.1, so it's a heavily modified version of THE official ROM for the Eris. There is no official 2.2 or 2.3 for the Eris, so there's no 2.2 or 2.3 stock ROM with Sense to base a new Eris ROM on.
Devs have worked on 2.2 and 2.3-based Sense ROMs based on stuff from other phones, but none of them are as stable and "finished" as the original stock ROM, or even xtrSENSE. Things don't work such as Wifi and Camera, and possibly some other difficulties. They haven't given up but they've been beating their heads against the wall for months for Froyo Sense. At this point, there's probably a marginally better chance that we'll ever have a port of a Gingerbread Sense which has everything working, over Froyo Sense.
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Tweetdeck is one of my key apps and I have no trouble at all with it on CELB Froyo or GSB. The only ROM I had an issue with was a later version of Nonsensikal. For some reason, that had an Autokiller-like aggressive memory setting and Tweetdeck would not stay open in the background.
Unlike many other twitter clients, Tweetdeck has no way to autostart and seems to have no server component to get updates, and aggressive memory settings will close the app when it is in the background. If you are using autokiller or something like it, using the optimum preset seems to work pretty well. Just vanilla GSB settings are just fine.
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I use advanced app killer but i do not let that run all the time, I just start it when I want to manually kill apps.
It is just so weird with tweetdeck not updating in the background right, except on xtrsense. I just dont get it
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Gscript for Apps2SD? I never heard of a GScript for that capability. There's an Apps2SD flashable zip which adds the Apps2SD script to your phone, if that's what you're talking about, but you don't use it in GScript.
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Yes, he has a gscript script built in to xtrsense that you can just load and run to do it.
I will have to redo my sdcard again and see if that fixes it. I still like how 2.3 lets you move the apps though. It is a WHOLE lot easier.
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Side question 2 - I am going to be searching for this but figured i would throw it in just incase I can not figure it out. I loaded the gscript for the apps2sd but I cant get any apps to the sd card. It is not even an option when I go to the manage apps. Like I said, I am going to search for this one but while I was typing I figured I would throw it in.
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That's not how it works with xtrSENSE. With xtrSENSE, you first need to partition your SD card to add an ext3 partition to store your apps. Then, as you noted, you run a gscript to activate apps2sd. This will move *all* of your user apps to the ext partition - you cannot choose to keep some internal. You either have your apps internal and not on SD, or you have your apps on SD and not internal.
The original post in the xtrSENSE thread explains this pretty well. The relevant portions are here:
Apps2sd and Cache2sd:
I have revamped my implementation of apps2sd to use simpler and better organized scripts. For apps2sd to work you must first complete the listed prerequisites and it is a good idea to read through the "things you may want to know about apps2sd" section. Although it can provide gobs of space for apps, Apps2sd is not for everyone as it ties the stability of your phone to your SD card... If you do not need the space I would recommend that you keep the default of DISABLED; if you want to try you can always disable it again however there is always the chance of issues.
To enable/disable apps2sd and cache2sd just run the appropriate GScript and reboot your phone (Quick Boot makes this easy!).
Prerequisites
If you have not setup your SD card (for those new to Apps2sd) as per tkirton:
BACKUP YOUR SD CARD TO YOUR COMPUTER. Can't stress this enough, as partitioning will wipe the entire card.
Reboot into recovery
In Android System Recovery, select Partition sdcard
In the Partition sdcard menu, select Partition SD
Follow the instructions on the phone to partition your SD card. Most folks seem to recommend using the default values however you can go larger or smaller use values 256, 512,768,1024. You will also be asked to set a swap size; I stayed at 32mb (anticipate future ROM options to allow moving swap to sd)
Once the partition is initially created you must then convert to ext3 - In the Partition sdcard menu, select SD:ext2 to ext3. Follow the instructions on the screen.
Press the back button on the phone to go back to the main menu.
Your SD card is now ready to work with an Apps2sd supported ROM.
Things you may want to know about apps2sd
Bootloop protection is built in if your SD card is corrupted or is removed from the phone with Apps2sd enabled. Your apps will go away but your phone will boot .
There are 3 subsets of data associated to an app when it is installed and run on your phone.
1) /data/app/ (and /data/app-private) - actual .apk files we think of as the applications that are not system apps (i.e. installed on /system/app)
2) /data/data/ - the files produced by ALL apps (system apps and market apps) during installation that are used by the Android system to run the app
3)/data/dalvik-cache/ - app cache file and work space for ALL apps (system apps and market apps).
From root explorer (or similar) you can browse to the /data/app OR the /system/sd/app folders and you will see the same thing, both will tell you how much space you have used and have left. The way apps2sd works is by "linking" the /system/sd/app to the /data/app folder so that the Android system thinks it is accessing the /data/app it is really at /system/sd/app.
I have seen using Apps2sd cause issues with some.zip flash updates as they try to write directly to the /data/app folder which no longer "physically" exists
If you get into a bootloop issue using apps2sd boot into amon_ra recovery and try one of the follow:
1) from the Other menu option select the Fix apk uid mismatches
2) from the Wipe menu option complete a)Wipe data/factory reset b)Wipe Dalvik-cache c)Wipe SD:ext partition
Apps2sd and Cache2sd Basics
When you run the apps2sd or cache2sd script, upon reboot, it will move ALL your existing apps or cache to the sd card ext partition and ALL future apps and cache will be installed and stored on the sd card ext partition.
Running the apps2internal or cache2internal script, upon reboot, it will move ALL your existing apps or cache to the /data block of internal storage and ALL futures apps and cache will be stored in internal storage.
With HTC based ROMs it is all or nothing and you cannot move individual apps like in the CyanogenMod ROMs.
So how do I know Apps2sd is on? - You can run the GScript report_system_stats which will give you a printout of what fileblocks are used as well as a “true/false” value for Apps2sd On. You can also go to menu>Settings>Sd card and phone storage - when on space available under Available storage will go down at a VERY slow rate when new apps are installed.
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KnightRid said:
I use advanced app killer but i do not let that run all the time, I just start it when I want to manually kill apps.
It is just so weird with tweetdeck not updating in the background right, except on xtrsense. I just dont get it
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It works fine for me on xtrSENSE. Try uninstalling advanced app killer for a while and see if tweetdeck works better. Also, run the gscript set_memory_balanced or set_memory_stock. I have had Tweetdeck work just fine in xtrSENSE4.6.5 with both of those settings.
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That's not how it works with xtrSENSE. With xtrSENSE, you first need to partition your SD card to add an ext3 partition to store your apps. Then, as you noted, you run a gscript to activate apps2sd. This will move *all* of your user apps to the ext partition - you cannot choose to keep some internal. You either have your apps internal and not on SD, or you have your apps on SD and not internal.
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I did not explain well, I did do that but the apps still would not move over. I thought i had to manually move the apps after the ext3 partition and such but there must be something little I am missing. I will go back through the steps again and see what happens. I still like how 2.2 and 2.3 move the apps a lot better and I wish xtrsense would be based on 2.2 or 2.3
As for tweetdeck, it DOES work right in xtrsense just not in any other rom even the stock rom.
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I did not explain well, I did do that but the apps still would not move over. I thought i had to manually move the apps after the ext3 partition and such but there must be something little I am missing.
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When you run that gscript that I highlighted above (report_system_stats), does it say that you have apps2sd enabled? If it does, then you do. After you partition your card and run the gscript to enable apps2sd (called apps2sd), there is nothing that you need to do manually - the apps will move to SD. All new apps that you install will go to SD. You cannot pick and choose - apps are either on SD or internal.
I will go back through the steps again and see what happens. I still like how 2.2 and 2.3 move the apps a lot better and I wish xtrsense would be based on 2.2 or 2.3
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To be honest, I think that this method is better. For one thing, you can back up your ext partition on your SD card; unless you use Clockwork, you cannot backup .android_secure. Also, when you connect your SD card to your computer, it dismounts the SD card from the phone, making those apps unavailable until you re-mount the SD card to the phone. Because you cannot dismount the ext3 partition (without trying really hard, that is), your apps are always available. Widgets can run from those apps. Lastly, there is no this app is internal, that app is on SD - they are either all on SD or they are not. Plus, of course, you don't have to move apps one at a time.
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When you run that gscript that I highlighted above (report_system_stats), does it say that you have apps2sd enabled? If it does, then you do. After you partition your card and run the gscript to enable apps2sd (called apps2sd), there is nothing that you need to do manually - the apps will move to SD. All new apps that you install will go to SD. You cannot pick and choose - apps are either on SD or internal.
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Yea, it just doesnt move anything for some reason - Really isnt that big of a deal just would be nice with me being a packrat for everything so I wouldnt have to uninstall as often lol
Thanx for the help!
I am still wishing and hoping for xtrsense based on 2.2 or 2.3 though =)
doogald said:
That's not how it works with xtrSENSE. With xtrSENSE, you first need to partition your SD card to add an ext3 partition to store your apps. Then, as you noted, you run a gscript to activate apps2sd. This will move *all* of your user apps to the ext partition - you cannot choose to keep some internal. You either have your apps internal and not on SD, or you have your apps on SD and not internal.
The original post in the xtrSENSE thread explains this pretty well. The relevant portions are here:
Note the parts that I bolded.
It works fine for me on xtrSENSE. Try uninstalling advanced app killer for a while and see if tweetdeck works better. Also, run the gscript set_memory_balanced or set_memory_stock. I have had Tweetdeck work just fine in xtrSENSE4.6.5 with both of those settings.
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There's an app called Link2SD which allows you to use old-school Apps2SD with the ability to only move what you want to move. Haven't tried it but reports are positive about it. Creates symlinks or some such for individual apps instead of for the whole data/app folder at once.
doogald said:
When you run that gscript that I highlighted above (report_system_stats), does it say that you have apps2sd enabled? If it does, then you do. After you partition your card and run the gscript to enable apps2sd (called apps2sd), there is nothing that you need to do manually - the apps will move to SD. All new apps that you install will go to SD. You cannot pick and choose - apps are either on SD or internal.
To be honest, I think that this method is better. For one thing, you can back up your ext partition on your SD card; unless you use Clockwork, you cannot backup .android_secure. Also, when you connect your SD card to your computer, it dismounts the SD card from the phone, making those apps unavailable until you re-mount the SD card to the phone. Because you cannot dismount the ext3 partition (without trying really hard, that is), your apps are always available. Widgets can run from those apps. Lastly, there is no this app is internal, that app is on SD - they are either all on SD or they are not. Plus, of course, you don't have to move apps one at a time.
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There's a couple of apps on the market, Dual Mount SD (used to be called SD Share, I think) and Multi Mount SD, which now, not only allow you to mount your SD card to both your computer and your phone at the same time, they also both have the option to auto-mount your SD card to your computer when you plug it in to the USB cable, which is now what I do. Multi Mount SD had that feature first, Dual Mount SD copied it just recently.
Also, Titanium Backup (paid, don't know about the free version) will allow you to batch move as many apps as you like to and from the SD card.
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There's a couple of apps on the market, Dual Mount SD (used to be called SD Share, I think) and Multi Mount SD, which now, not only allow you to mount your SD card to both your computer and your phone at the same time, they also both have the option to auto-mount your SD card to your computer when you plug it in to the USB cable, which is now what I do. Multi Mount SD had that feature first, Dual Mount SD copied it just recently.
Also, Titanium Backup (paid, don't know about the free version) will allow you to batch move as many apps as you like to and from the SD card.
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Good to know, but I still like the "old school" apps2sd kludge more than the official kludge that Google added with Froyo. I've had more problems with apps2sd (when I tried it) with Froyo than I ever had with xtrROM before cache2cache was added to that ROM.
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Good to know, but I still like the "old school" apps2sd kludge more than the official kludge that Google added with Froyo. I've had more problems with apps2sd (when I tried it) with Froyo than I ever had with xtrROM before cache2cache was added to that ROM.
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The absolutely only thing I don't like about, now that Link2SD is out, is that it's difficult to use the old Apps2SD under Froyo and beyond, requiring special partitioning arrangements, concerning where the particular partitions are and making it difficult to mount all the Fat32 partitions to both the phone and the computer, unless there's been progress in those areas I haven't been made aware of.
Even though there's some things which won't move to the SD card in a friendly way with Froyo's move to SD, almost everything will move if you use an app such as Titanium Backup to move them. As I said, there's still some apps it won't move but it moves almost all of them for me. I guess I wouldn't like it if I was stuck with Google implementation of it, but as long as there are third party apps to make up what it's lacking, it works great for me.
I also like that since I "only" have an 8GB SD card, that I don't have to partition it, the apps that are moved to SD will only take up as much space as they need to, no partition with space that'll never get used because I want it at least large enough to cover my worst case scenarios.
Off topic, it's unbelievable how much "crap" I get on my SD card, from all the apps I've stopped using but never deleted any respective folders for from the card. Mostly because I replaced the app with something better.
Hi,
I had HTC Desire before Android Froyo has been released and those days was said need to some hacks (think after root?) to move apps from internal memory to SD card. Also was said Google will add this feature to later Android versions natively.
I've searched on the forum and found some topics but still have below questions:
from which android version does it support App2SD exactly? Is there any improvement for native App2SD in later versions? (i.e gingerbread toward froyo)
Does this feature remain in all other Android versions that come later?
According to this post there are 3 kind of App2SD: Froyo A2SD, Legacy A2SD, Legacy A2SD+ ; while that post was for September 2010 is there any change in this manifest? which one is better?
I read costume ROMs need to be compatible with App2SD so we can enable it on them. Is it enough that a ROM has App2SD compatibility/feature or we need do some works and/or install apps to use App2SD on the phone?
I saw different apps and tricks to move apps like these:
Moving ANY app to SD on FroYo (or how to Enable all grayed out 'Move to SD' buttons)
[APP][Froyo][root] Move2SD Enabler - ex SetInstallLocation
[App] Link2SD
What's the comprehensive App2SD app yet? Should we install an app for this purpose ever?
As 'bakpinar' said in this post:
bakpinar said:
Instead of moving all applications to SD card with app2sd, I want to move only selected applications.
Because I don't want to move my launcher, soft keyboard and dialer application to SD and make them unavaliable on boot if my SD card has problem or not inserted.
In order to resolve this I developed an application called Link2SD.
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It's not wise to move launcher, soft keyboard and dialer application to SD and make them unavaliable on boot if my SD card has problem or not inserted.
Now what if I am going to move all apps except these 3 mother app and don't want to select all new apps and current apps to move on SD card? any solution here?
Finally I have rooted HTC Desire HD with Android Revolution HD ROM.
Special Thanks for taking time to read this post.
Regards...
Any answer will be so appreciated and helpful
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1. The official way to move applications to SD, as provided my the standard Android sources is part of Android 2.2 (Froyo)... I'm not sure if any modifications have been made afterwards.
2. You can now also move /data/data to SD with DarkTremor... that's about the only thing that has changed AFAIK. Better is a relative term. DarkTremor (which is the new name for the "hackish" A2SD method, to avoid confusion with Android's own support) moves more data, but it requires a special partition and is generally a LOT more fragile. However it does move more data to the SD card, leaving more internal memory available. I've tried DarkTremor and was not satisfied with the stability, but different people may come up with different results here.
3. You need a script like DarkTremor to actually do the dirty work. Prepared only means that the ROM will mount the partition, but nothing more.
4. a)/b) this still uses the native Froyo method, it just overrides the do-not-move flag. It is VERY stable.
4. c) this is a special flavor of the DarkTremor method that instead moves individual applications, but otherwise comes with the same (dis)advantages.
5. You'd still use "4. c)"... that's just a slight UI difference. The difference is that standard DarkTremor makes it impossible to let anything remain in internal memory.
Thanks soooo mauch.
I'd wish I could press thank button more than 1 time
So the most comprehensive method is DarkTremor still now? But to make some mother apps available even when there isn't SD card too, we should use Link2sd app. Did I get it true?
No problem.
Basically yes... but I've never tried Link2sd, so I can't comment on how well the application itself works...
Thanks again.
Well, i tested this for some roms and its the same on all of them:
if i move apps that are app2sd-capable by native to sd (via settings -> apps), they work fine, they are still there after reboot.
but if i move apps (app2sd-capable by native or not) via link2sd (yes, moving via link2sd, NOT LINKING!!) or titanium backup, they are all there and working, but after doing a reboot
they're gone.
anyone else experiencing this? what can i do to resolve that? :silly:
realCyphox said:
Well, i tested this for some roms and its the same on all of them:
if i move apps that are app2sd-capable by native to sd (via settings -> apps), they work fine, they are still there after reboot.
but if i move apps (app2sd-capable by native or not) via link2sd or titanium backup, they are all there and working, but after doing a reboot
they're gone.
anyone else experiencing this? what can i do to resolve that? :silly:
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Why are you using a2sd? This device has enough memory.
To answer your question: The a2sd scripts are meant for Android 2.3.3- or low-end devices. It's likely it won't work
enough memory? well, not for me
im talking about the "most normal" method of moving apps to sd, via settings -> apps -> move app to sd
this works.
but doing so via link2sd or titanium backup doesnt after performing a rebooot.
and im pretty sure i did so (via link2sd) on some other ics-driven devices i owned so im just wondering why it wont work on the dx?
realCyphox said:
enough memory? well, not for me
im talking about the "most normal" method of moving apps to sd, via settings -> apps -> move app to sd
this works.
but doing so via link2sd or titanium backup doesnt after performing a rebooot.
and im pretty sure i did so (via link2sd) on some other ics-driven devices i owned so im just wondering why it wont work on the dx?
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Are they really gone, or do they just not work?
realCyphox said:
enough memory? well, not for me
im talking about the "most normal" method of moving apps to sd, via settings -> apps -> move app to sd
this works.
but doing so via link2sd or titanium backup doesnt after performing a rebooot.
and im pretty sure i did so (via link2sd) on some other ics-driven devices i owned so im just wondering why it wont work on the dx?
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Well, I'm not sure what you are doing with your phone but I have 50+ apps on it, 10+ games and some of them really big (like Real Racing 2 and NFS MW), none of them moved on sd card and I have 400mb of free space.
MaartenXDA said:
Are they really gone, or do they just not work?
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they are gone from the app drawer and in settings -> apps they are greyed out and have this standard-android-symbol as icon.
when i check via titanium backup they are also not there, but titanium backup finds orphan data to delete, which are virtually useless remains from
those "former installed apps" if you wanna call them that
@nlooooo
its just about having the option do so. i had that on my previous phones and i would love to have that on the dx.
well, im thinking about using "normal" app2sd for apps that are movable natively and link2sd + sd-ext partition for apps that are not movable natively
i know its weird, but i like to keep my data partition as clean as possible
realCyphox said:
they are gone from the app drawer and in settings -> apps they are greyed out and have this standard-android-symbol as icon.
when i check via titanium backup they are also not there, but titanium backup finds orphan data to delete, which are virtually useless remains from
those "former installed apps" if you wanna call them that
@nlooooo
its just about having the option do so. i had that on my previous phones and i would love to have that on the dx.
well, im thinking about using "normal" app2sd for apps that are movable natively and link2sd + sd-ext partition for apps that are not movable natively
i know its weird, but i like to keep my data partition as clean as possible
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You have to accept the fact that using link2sd and symlinking will slow down your phone.
I doesn't work because of /system write protection, so all sylinks made when phone is booted are deleted when phone is restarted, If you're able to make those symlinks in recovery it will work. You can try with script that disables write protection, but I'm still not sure why would you need any a2sd scrip.
While I had Desire I used a2sd scripts, but when I bought Incredible S I didn't have any need to use them anymore. The same is with DesX.
nlooooo said:
You have to accept the fact that using link2sd and symlinking will slow down your phone.
I doesn't work because of /system write protection, so all sylinks made when phone is booted are deleted when phone is restarted, If you're able to make those symlinks in recovery it will work. You can try with script that disables write protection, but I'm still not sure why would you need any a2sd scrip.
While I had Desire I used a2sd scripts, but when I bought Incredible S I didn't have any need to use them anymore. The same is with DesX.
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apps moving to sd-ext works fine when using the write protection patch, tested that before, worked fine till i screwed my rom up because of some other stuff.
my problem is moving apps to sd, not linking them to a second sd-partition. i mean, if i move apps to sd via titanium even the apps that are definitely movable by "oldschool" app2sd are gone. thats the weirdest part i dont get.
so moving apps to sd via link2sd or titanium has to work somewhat different than doing so via apps -> settings or any "standard" app2sd app available in the market, doesnt it?
realCyphox said:
apps moving to sd-ext works fine when using the write protection patch, tested that before, worked fine till i screwed my rom up because of some other stuff.
my problem is moving apps to sd, not linking them to a second sd-partition. i mean, if i move apps to sd via titanium even the apps that are definitely movable by "oldschool" app2sd are gone. thats the weirdest part i dont get.
so moving apps to sd via link2sd or titanium has to work somewhat different than doing so via apps -> settings or any "standard" app2sd app available in the market, doesnt it?
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I've never used titanium for that, but link2sd is moving them to sd-ext, creating symlinks, that's why that's not working. Using native app2sd from OS moves only .apk files to .android_secure folder on fat32 partition of sd card.
nlooooo said:
I've never used titanium for that, but link2sd is moving them to sd-ext, creating symlinks, that's why that's not working. Using native app2sd from OS moves only .apk files to .android_secure folder on fat32 partition of sd card.
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no no, link2sd can move apps2sd OR/AND (if you have a second partition on your sdcard) can link them to sd-ext. it can do BOTH.
and as i said, LINKING apps works just fine when using the write-protection patch. but moving apps to "normal sd card partition" doesnt.
I have this problem before when using link2sd on my old phone.
Your second partition might be corrupt.
On which ext u created the second partition?
There are two you can choose, ext2 or ext3. If you created the second partition on ext3, when u open up the link2sd app choose ext3 at the first time, then all the apps u partitioned/linked on ext3will be visible again.
Ps. I don't think desire x need link2sd as 1gb is really a lot! Trust me u don't need it.
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again: i'm talking about moving (NOT LINKING) apps. link2sd can do that. and i have no second partition on my sdcard right now.
edited the first post and i hope noone will talk about linking apps anymore