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Greets to all fellow XDA membs!
Ill make it sweet n short:
Been a diehard Winmo user for many years, winmo has given me the love we all know about (don't regret a second of it) but.... some fukr stole my fuze and im in the market for a new phone, ive been eyeballin the TP2, butttttt, since i have switched to Ubuntu for quite some time now, i said to myself maybe thats the same path I should take on my mobile devices.
Sooo, what do you dislike or like about the Hero? is it worth ditchin the good ol Winmo for some Android? Do i get any "benefit" by runnin linux on pc and on my phone? How do prior Winmo users feel about the switch?
-How about the on screen keyboard? Multitouch makes a big diff, I mean typing a sorto long email?
Thanks all for the tips, I trust my fellow XDA members givin me a good birds eye view.
I guess we can turn this into "mini" reviews.
I've just switched from a Touch HD to a Hero. So far I'm very impressed with the Hero. Speed of screen switching is good and somehow I feel more "connected" with the Hero. I have no problems updating Facebook or my blog from the phone. Keyboard is very responsive (I was using Zoomboard on the HD) and I've only once found myself trying to get a stylus out (non-existent on the Hero).
I'd prefer a better calendar app for the Hero, the in built one is a bit limited. Pocket Informant for Android would be good.
All in all I can say it's been a very positive experience moving across though.
M
After using WM for some years I don't regret using a Hero now.
It's fantastic.
Being a Ubuntu/Linux user for some years now I decided I wanted a Linux-based smartphone.
Just do it and you won't regret it.
Coool, thanks for the replys., I think im takin the Dip! 2 Android
Any one else?
Coming from a Htc diamond (1) I can only say buy the hero
It works a lot quicker the sense ui is brilliant (even the normal android screen is far more usefull than winmo's ''today''screen)
I can't say I miss any programs I ran on winmo, almost all popular programs have android alternatives in the market.
For example Meebo IM instead of messenger live... works a lot better my contacts don't even notice I'm online on my hero instead of my pc.
Also typing on a touch phone without a stylus has never been so easy before (have to admit never had something else other than winmo devices not naming the Ithingy)
I don't have any regrets the only thing I miss a bit is the bluetooth support. But hopefully that will be fixed in future android/rom updates.
the only real downside but's a htc thing I think, is the camera has no flash therefor almost useless in situations with bad lighting. But I don't care so much for that.
Have a very nice digital slr wich makes perfect pictures ^^
Androidod
It blows WinMo away I was forever messing with Windows Mobile and it just seemed an OS that promised the world but delivered very little.
I got the T Mobile G2 and I am well hooked. my only 2 gripes with it are.
1) handling long SMS's it seems to only get the first part of long texts and i dont get the rest. With other phones its receives 2 messages and linked them.
2) Good apps are a bit thin on the ground when you compare with IPhone apps. They have Monkey Island Special Edition, Madden to name but 2 big name titles. We need more support for the good of the device after sales.
Other than that its the nuts!
HI at all HTC Hero users.
ATM i use a htc touch pro, it is nice but i want to change to android, because there are a lot off nice apllications, and the ports for the touch pro are too laggy, eat too much battery etc.
So i want a nice android device.
I have a question for you:
Does the HTC Hero has enought power for android (at this moment)?
For me, the following things are important:
1. applications (navigation system or other GPS-programs; and other apps work without problems)
2. games like angry birds; paper toss ect work without a workaround: just install from the market and play
I know that dualcore-devices will come next month but i need this phone for some games(like explained), listen to music, surf a little bit on web and use applications like gps sport etc.
I also do not want 4.0" devices, 3,2" is perfect for me.
So my question is: does the HTC Hero has enought power(with the right rom and overclocked to 691-729MHZ) for my use?
Thanks for your answers,
BikerBoy030
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HI at all HTC Hero users.
ATM i use a htc touch pro, it is nice but i want to change to android, because there are a lot off nice apllications, and the ports for the touch pro are too laggy, eat too much battery etc.
So i want a nice android device.
I have a question for you:
Does the HTC Hero has enought power for android (at this moment)?
For me, the following things are important:
1. applications (navigation system or other GPS-programs; and other apps work without problems)
2. games like angry birds; paper toss ect work without a workaround: just install from the market and play
I know that dualcore-devices will come next month but i need this phone for some games(like explained), listen to music, surf a little bit on web and use applications like gps sport etc.
I also do not want 4.0" devices, 3,2" is perfect for me.
So my question is: does the HTC Hero has enought power(with the right rom and overclocked to 691-729MHZ) for my use?
Thanks for your answers,
BikerBoy030
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Google Navigation works okay for me, sometimes slightly slow and the latest version of angry birds is laggy but Paper Toss works relatively well.
Honestly, at this stage I wouldn't recommend it unless you're on a really tight budget. Even then, a phone such as the ZTE Blade which has a high res 3.5 inch screen is under £100, if you want a HTC then go for a Legend which has decent enough performance.
the simple answer is no. In the current android climate, the hero doesn't cut it. I still think its a great sized phone, cant agree more with you on that one, but its processor, no matter how overclocked, doesn't come close to even the cpu of the original droid, never mind the snapdragons, or the future dual core cpus. The hero doesn't have a dedicated graphics chipset, so you can wave goodbye to angry birds, and all but the simplest android games. The hero is only capable of openGLS 1.1 (I think?) and most phones and games nowadays use openGLS 2
GPS... Well, for me it's been a largely poor experience. The hero's battery is poor at best under heavyish use, so you will have to have a charger to hand for GPS. and even then, it runs hot, and isn't the best experience ever (UI lag). Others may have faired better in this department though.
So no, I would never recommend buying a hero now. Its been a great phone for the time I've had it, and I'll be sad to see it go, but at the same time I really can't wait to embrace a more powerful, capable android phone as soon as my contract runs out.
Thanks for the fast answers.
It wasn't the answer, i wanted to hear... but i am happy to hear it from you, than to feel it after buying this device.
The Blade isn't my phone because the software development isn't as big as i like. I want some tweaked devices, with good hardware.
Because i buyed an Acer Neotouch S200 (same hardware like the HD2) but it wasn't as good as the HD2: bad GPS, no good software, quite bad.
So i need to wait for the dual-cores to get a nice andoird experience?
For me it is important:- i want to listen to music(stream radio/ mp3)
- use a fast GPS-programm to navigate and to do sport
- use applications like : rss, kcal counter etc...
- the phone need to be handy (no 4" display)
- play some games not the newest ones like quake2/3 , just little games for freetime
big thanks to you,
BikerBoy030
could be closed, i wouldn't buy an HTC Hero:
thanks for the helpers
BikerBoy030 said:
could be closed, i wouldn't buy an HTC Hero:
thanks for the helpers
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Maybe you could look at the Original Desire then? Screen is 3.7 inch but it would suit all your needs, plus it's going to get Gingerbread so I think there will be development on it for another year. I don't think it's too expensive now either.
Good luck with whatever you choose to buy.
Wait for Wildfire S. It has more RAM and faster CPU and its a bit smaller
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CyberWalrus said:
the simple answer is no. In the current android climate, the hero doesn't cut it. I still think its a great sized phone, cant agree more with you on that one, but its processor, no matter how overclocked, doesn't come close to even the cpu of the original droid, never mind the snapdragons, or the future dual core cpus. The hero doesn't have a dedicated graphics chipset, so you can wave goodbye to angry birds, and all but the simplest android games. The hero is only capable of openGLS 1.1 (I think?) and most phones and games nowadays use openGLS 2
GPS... Well, for me it's been a largely poor experience. The hero's battery is poor at best under heavyish use, so you will have to have a charger to hand for GPS. and even then, it runs hot, and isn't the best experience ever (UI lag). Others may have faired better in this department though.
So no, I would never recommend buying a hero now. Its been a great phone for the time I've had it, and I'll be sad to see it go, but at the same time I really can't wait to embrace a more powerful, capable android phone as soon as my contract runs out.
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+1 here
My biggest gripe with the Hero is it's performance. When android was fresh and fairly simple and with not too many demanding apps it was fine, just. Now though it is like running that computer you bought ages ago, where it runs the OS ok, but once you do stuff it kinda feels a bit sluggish. OK if you don't push it but you'll always be wanting more.
I'm personally looking forward to something more snappier in the summer when my contract is due.
I know this question had been raised many times, just wanted to get/share a decent statistical view/review about Flyer-HC and Flyer-GB..
The Basic Qurstion Would Be:
Why HoneyComb ?
-Is it faster ?
-Is it more stable ?
-Does it have better application/game compatibility ? <-----Doubt this {Gameloft Stuff/Skyscape/Medical Apps}
-Does it look more eyecandy ? <-----Doubt this
Thanks for sharing your opinion
Speed difference is subjective
Personally I think honeycomb fits a tablet better. The ui is more suitable. If you are not willing to root I can see how some do not like the honeycomb bar. Honeycomb apps make better use of screen.
With LeeDroids tireless work, honeybar or honey hide, and LeeDroids tweaks apk, you get the best of all worlds.
jaguaralani said:
I know this question had been raised many times, just wanted to get/share a decent statistical view/review about Flyer-HC and Flyer-GB..
The Basic Qurstion Would Be:
Why HoneyComb ?
-Is it faster ?
-Is it more stable ?
-Does it have better application/game compatibility ? <-----Doubt this {Gameloft Stuff/Skyscape/Medical Apps}
-Does it look more eyecandy ? <-----Doubt this
Thanks for sharing your opinion
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To hell with all of that.
HC is closer to ICS.
And in all seriousness, way to have an unbias poll.
Compatibililty: Every single app that worked on my Flyer with Gingerbread works on my Flyer with Honeycomb. I have yet to find an app that Honecomb broke, and that includes games.
Speed: If anything, Honeycomb feels faster than Gingerbread, but the difference is minimal.
Eye Candy: there's not a huge differnce either way, though my Flyer with Honeycomb still feels fresh to me and feels very polished.
Stability: after the last Gingerbread security update, Sense would frequently crash on me. not so with honeycomb.
Expanded capabilities: The pen now works in all applications. Yeah!
Fixes: Arrow keys now map correctly on a bluetooth keyboard when the Flyer is propped up in landscape mode.
Why HoneyComb ?
-Is it faster...everything works and feels smoother to me
-Is it more stable...was never unstable and still isn't
-Does it have better application/game compatibility? never had had compatibility, still don't
-Does it look more eyecandy? yes, definitely...GB on the flyer made it look like a big ugly phone...HC is a heaps better user experience and makes more sense
I prefer Honeycomb, as it offers a better tablet experience than Gingerbread, which is a phone based interface.
Why HoneyComb ?
@jaguaralani maybe it would be better if you ask the reason they used HC instead of GB on Flyer or vise versa.
Main Reason : added pen functionality! SketchBook! lately start using it on Quill. awesome experience.
Application compatibility : HC - i can use Whatsapp Messenger, which is not possible on stock GB.
what about battery life comparism? i haven't notice on GB, but on Lee's HC ROM it stay around 5~6 hours with wifi + 3G and moderate usage.
It really boils down to GB is a phone OS, and HC is a Tab OS. Aside from app compatibility (which falls on app devs, not the OS itself) I vote HC hands down. For all functionality & looks.
\\Carved into this thread by my RAZR//
http://android-gz.com
No comparison two different worlds.
Now I wish the walls could be torn down between Operating systems and treat them as apps running on a much more capable device so we could choose what we would like to run.
Sent from my HTC_Flyer_P512_NA using xda premium
I was running Honeycomb since the day the OTA came to the UK (so a few months now), but last weekend I decided I'd had enough and downgraded. Though it was a slightly harrowing experience, I'm very glad I did...
I very much dislike the updates that have been made to the Sense apps in honeycomb. Having text on each button rather than just the icon looks ugly on such a small screen and swallows precious real-estate. The browser is almost unusable in landscape mode because of this, and there's no option to hide the toolbar!
Lack of a real full-screen mode in Honeycomb really hurts the Flyer imo. 1024x600 is already quite a narrow aspect ratio and isn't particularly high-res. To reduce the vertical resolution by 32 pixels (I think that's the size of the shortcut bar), with no way of opting out is too annoying. It really badly affects games and video watching.
Though the frame-rate on the launcher is generally a bit better in Honeycomb, it reloaded a lot more often and would often pause for noticeable periods - more so than the launcher in Gingerbread. I also don't like how the Sense widgets have shrunk - the big full-screen widgets are one of the things I really like on the Flyer.
So all in all, playing games, browsing and watching videos are all worse for me on Honeycomb. Given these are the three things I do on the Flyer the most, I have to say it's Gingerbread for me... I miss some of the updated tablet apps and the improved performance (in some scenarios at least), but it doesn't outweigh all that's wrong with it either.
I really hope if/when ICS comes out, that they revert to the phone-style layout with hardware keys and a smaller, drag-down panel. It'd be nice if they could enable that interface with tablet apps, but I'd pick a big android phone over a tiny android tablet any day.
It really comes down to whether you like a tablet experience or a big phone. No offense to GB lovers but go play with the EVO 3D and then the Flyer running GB, similar feel.
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All I know is that I wish I never accepted the OTA Honeycomb update. My Flyer has been slow and buggy every since. Browser crashes a lot, flash hangs. Never used to happen on Gingerbread. Issues persist, even with custom ROMs. Can't even downgrade, due to newer HBOOT that is unsupported by revolutionary. I'm just hoping ICS clears things up.
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All I know is that I wish I never accepted the OTA Honeycomb update. My Flyer has been slow and buggy every since. Browser crashes a lot, flash hangs. Never used to happen on Gingerbread. Issues persist, even with custom ROMs. Can't even downgrade, due to newer HBOOT that is unsupported by revolutionary. I'm just hoping ICS clears things up.
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your issues are not common and to me would indicate an issue other than HC. and I believe if your Hnoot is supported by HTC Dev Unlock you should be able to roll back
FWIW, i rooted and installed the HC OTA on my View yesterday, adn i love it 10x more..to the poster who said GB makes it seem like a big ugly phone, you're so right. the screen is NOWHERE near as nice as my rezound, and it literally just seemed like a giant rezound..so i put HC on it, and damn, everything just looks so much cooler! i love the tablet UI much more.
for that LeeDroid tweaks, is that only on the flyer, or can i use that stuff on my View too?
Put HC on it last night and ended up playing with it for 3 hours after and I am paying for that now! Sooo tired.
Anyway, it is definitely a different experience then GB and makes it feel a lot different then my phone. Sense widgets are a little weird and the use of screen real estate for the launcher is questionable but I like it better right now. Need more time to play though.
The big question is will the wife like it. It is mainly her tablet and she hates change! I am expecting a lot of screaming to come out of her today of how much she hates it and I need to put GB back because she doesn't know how to do anything on HC. Will give you the follow-up report. She hasn't even seen it yet
Neither...
Both have their advantages and both have their disadvantages.
Overall, I think I prefer Honeycomb on my View. I am on stock. I like being able to use the pen more. I like the way the widgets work on the homescreens. The bottom bar mostly doesn't bother me, as I think more apps will build in support for dimming it. Since ther used to be a notification bar on top, I don't think the loss of screen real estate is that big of a deal.
Some issues I have had are that I seem to get more system force closes, but not enough to be bothersome. The stock browser crashes a lot, but I use Dolphin now, so no big deal. The keyboard is sometimes glitchy when editing text.
My other family members have elected to stay on GB because they like the capacitive buttons and don't care as much about being able to use the pen.
HC gives a more natural UI experience when used in landscape mode, with the bar at the bottom. Easier to reach, in a more natural way, in my opinion.
I've rooted GB to have phone function. Obviously GB for me since HC cannot have phone function.
Also, as previous HC user, I find HC not stable. Probably its stable now. But I'm not willing to take the risk and lose my phone function.
Phone has already been added by LeeDroid in his latest honeycomb Rom.
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this phone has no future its been stuck on wm6.5 that just doesnt work on this phone has too many bugs etc or wp7 whats totally usless on tg01 nothing works propperly and is just a usless phone for daily usage.
wm6.5 is dead and even the original orange rom for this phone is buggy and aftar usage it drops to like 40mb free ram.
mirom 8 cfc is the best so far but still has lots of bugs and makes using the phone horrible.
android well theres no android haha
wp7, no camera, sms dont work propperly, no accelerometer, browser is for multitouch so the double tap to zoom is not too good, iff battery goes too low phone does not charge,
general problems,
with all tg01 phones not just mine,
screen does not always turn on when pressing power button lags to turn screen on sometimes, anoying if wanting to do something quick.
accelerometer on this phone is usless for gaming because it does not work or lags that need htc sensor what most games need,
random hangs resets at times,
extremely bad for texting on,
poor battery life,
apparently theres 265mb of ram haha what the f*ck haha id believe it if they said 165mb free ram but 256 they must be on drugs or something as i have about 60mb free ram with nothing running and about 30mb free when using web :/
i cant be botherd going on now
boxed with all extra, usb, usb host cable thing, charger, 4gb mem card, rubber case, all other **** all fully working il take £30 for it.
Is it unlocked via IMEI? How often does it crash?
BTW: The power button thing. You may find that pressing another button (like the camera button) makes the screen wake.
its on orange but i will unlock it if any 1 wants it
...and the crashing? How often? Is this is like crashing once a day, once a week etc? Does it crash frequently on the stock orange ROM?
its just a normal buggy tg01 a pain in the arse on all roms
Well, I'm interested, just not till last day of month (pay day lol).
jonnyhall1bmx1 said:
wm6.5 is dead and even the original orange rom for this phone is buggy and aftar usage it drops to like 40mb free ram.
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Hi jonny. I can not agree that this phone is horrible as You mentioned.
I do not know what people are doing with it every day, but for me as a person who
every day :
- do some calls, sms, mms
- use internet connection directly ( Opera ) or indirectly ( TG01 as a USB or bluetooth modem )
- from time to time use different GPS navigation software both for car and pedestrian and do some photos,
it simply works perfect. Mentioned resets are in my opinion due to either some damages in Your unit or bad rom. On the other hand maybe I do not use my phone too heavy to detects problems You are talking about.
For me as a software developer WM is the best even though it is dead as You mentioned. None android, never.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi jonny. I can not agree that this phone is horrible as You mentioned.
I do not know what people are doing with it every day, but for me as a person who
every day :
- do some calls, sms, mms
- use internet connection directly ( Opera ) or indirectly ( TG01 as a USB or bluetooth modem )
- from time to time use different GPS navigation software both for car and pedestrian and do some photos,
it simply works perfect. Mentioned resets are in my opinion due to either some damages in Your unit or bad rom. On the other hand maybe I do not use my phone too heavy to detects problems You are talking about.
For me as a software developer WM is the best even though it is dead as You mentioned. None android, never.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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I should have to echo the above sentiments. I use the TG01 all the time for all appropriate tasks from voice, SMS, music and video player, camera occasionally, weather info D/L on tap, internet (IE) .... the list goes on. Yes, occasionally there is a need to soft reset but it is occasionally and nothing toget excited about. But I have refined my WM6.5 ROM to a point where it fits like a glove to what I want it to do and I have no particular inclination to go in the direction of WM&. I just don't like the GUI and in particular, the inability to tweak to my tastes. So, just like I ran the old e830 on WM2003SE right up to a couple of years ago and then made the 'plunge' to WM6.5 (big step!) I shall probably stick with a very useable WM6.5 for a long time and until such time as there is a worthy successor which will give me the same capabilities.....
Best regards,
Kevin
Hi Kevin.
I can only agree with You. Somewhere in the past I wrote that only
reason for me to change smartphone ( tg01 with WM6.5 ) will be its physical death.
So let my tg01 live long time
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi Kevin.
I can only agree with You. Somewhere in the past I wrote that only
reason for me to change smartphone ( tg01 with WM6.5 ) will be its physical death.
So let my tg01 live long time
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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As mine did die at my own hands (WP7 upgrade went bad) and then I completely totalled it so it won't even power on eek!).. so I do need a new one.
I would like to buy it (Even though I have a LG Optimus 2X, I found the GPS more reliable on the TG01, and I like to record my cycle rides to and from work)
ive sold it got a htc titan now
lol ok
Surprised you didn't an an HTC EVO 3D given the deal on at ASDA.
Scougar said:
lol ok
Surprised you didn't an an HTC EVO 3D given the deal on at ASDA.
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Jonny doesn't like Android
I was quite tempted at getting the EVO...
It's a reasonable upgrade from my Desire S, but I don't think its enough ..
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olyloh6696 said:
Jonny doesn't like Android
I was quite tempted at getting the EVO...
It's a reasonable upgrade from my Desire S, but I don't think its enough ..
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Know what you mean... I'm only tempted to swap to it for the reasonable screen res 960*540 and the 1gig RAM on it, and for £229 that is damn good.
But... this is the problem.. I do want something that is better, but tegra 3 stuff is gonna be mega expensive :-(
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Know what you mean... I'm only tempted to swap to it for the reasonable screen res 960*540 and the 1gig RAM on it, and for £229 that is damn good.
But... this is the problem.. I do want something that is better, but tegra 3 stuff is gonna be mega expensive :-(
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Yeah I agree!
A major turn off for me is the 3D screen aswell, as the bulky design.
Had it been a Sensation, this would have tempted me more! (Even though its got 3/4 of this RAM)
For me, the EVO3D from Desire S, i only get a speed upgrade, bigger higher resolution display , better camera.
Everything else is more or less the same as my Desire S with the same UI.
I can tell you, HTC Android devices are fantastic, they really are much better than any other UI with Sense
I also saw your a regular GPS user, HTC provide great integration with their Location App. (Based on TomTom)
You should try one out! It may be a huge jump for from your 2X.
Did you get the 2X for £199 at Amazon by the way?
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awww jhony how's your baby titan doin'? I am stuck with andoid for now, crashed screen on sgs2 and got DHD but not so much downgrade, as for EVO 3D oly dude thats not so big update for that kind of money. Sensation ok but EVO 3D is a epic fail so as optimus 3D, thats why sammy didn't want a 3D cellphone.
EDIT: by the way i sold my tg01 for 150 euros
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awww jhony how's your baby titan doin'? I am stuck with andoid for now, crashed screen on sgs2 and got DHD but not so much downgrade, as for EVO 3D oly dude thats not so big update for that kind of money. Sensation ok but EVO 3D is a epic fail so as optimus 3D, thats why sammy didn't want a 3D cellphone.
EDIT: by the way i sold my tg01 for 150 euros
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Nice! Yeah, the 3D part really turned me off!
I'm very interested in the new One X series now
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I switch from a Galaxy S3 (which is a ridiculous device in terms of software modification - called TocuhWiz) to a HTC One X+. I must admit it's the nicest Android modification i've seen so far. Compared to iOS it still su*** big times.
Anyway before returning my phone on monday:
- why is so less RAM left on such a high priced model?
- the interface feels laggy and slow
The really great thing about the HTC One X+ is that you're able to listen to music at a low volume level. Any other Android i tested was way too loud.
Don't you all feel a little bit taken like a fool - buying the best phone in the range of HTC (for Europe, i know in America there's a 5" available) and get 1GB of RAM where not really free memory is left. Oh and please don't say it's so good that RAM is used because of Caching. I encountered already the nice multitasking feature of HTC called "closing apps" ...
The poor multitasking on the One X+ is largely a result of HTC's non-optimal tweaking and not a result of 1gb of RAM available on the HOX+. This problem can most likely be fixed by flashing a non-Sense-based custom ROM like CM or AOSP. You also haven't given a particularly good reason of why you don't want to hear about the fact that large amounts of RAM being used on the device is not a bad thing. Would you rather only a small amount be used and instead we get no multitasking? If lots of RAM is such a big deal, why didn't you stay with the SIII?
xpla said:
The really great thing about the HTC One X+ is that you're able to listen to music at a low volume level. Any other Android i tested was way too loud.
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This would be a huge issue if it weren't for the modern miracle of adjustable volume.
xpla said:
I switch from a Galaxy S3 (which is a ridiculous device in terms of software modification - called TocuhWiz) to a HTC One X+. I must admit it's the nicest Android modification i've seen so far. Compared to iOS it still su*** big times.
Anyway before returning my phone on monday:
- why is so less RAM left on such a high priced model?
- the interface feels laggy and slow
The really great thing about the HTC One X+ is that you're able to listen to music at a low volume level. Any other Android i tested was way too loud.
Don't you all feel a little bit taken like a fool - buying the best phone in the range of HTC (for Europe, i know in America there's a 5" available) and get 1GB of RAM where not really free memory is left. Oh and please don't say it's so good that RAM is used because of Caching. I encountered already the nice multitasking feature of HTC called "closing apps" ...
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If you do not like the device, return it. It is as simple as that. Comparisons between touch wiz, sense and ios interfaces will always be pointless as it comes down to user preference. I for one hate IOS for its lack of widgets and the fact that all apps must be on a home screen. I know users who love touch wiz and feel it is one of the most "innovative" skins for android yet. That said lets tackle your complaints. The misconception that 1GB of ram is too little just baffles me. This is a phone, doing phone like activities. Games on android so far do not even use 4 cores effectively (in 95% of cases), your going to tell me they can use 2GB of ram as well? Also it has been shown that the ONE X+ has "faster" ram then those phones running 2GB and can perform on par with them if not better.
It has been a long running complaint that Sense is "laggy" and "slow" this is something that people who know and use android know going in to purchasing an AT&T phone. I personally did not notice sense lag when I was on stock but quickly changed to a custom ROM when they became available. Sense allows you to keep 6 or 8 apps open ( I can not remember) in an attempt to not only allow the phone to run smoothly bur to also conserve battery (it consumes battery to keep several apps open). Please troll elsewhere.
And your volume comment makes no sense what so ever. Most people complain that phones do not get loud enough. If a phone was too loud in the past you should have just used the volume rocker to turn it down.
The comment about the volume is just right. Output of headphones and the earpiece is on most Android phones way too loud.
For music iOS has a simple but very effective trick to adjust volume levels really fine. You can adjust the whole system volume for media and in the range given you can now adjust the volume much finer than on Android. The One X+ is the first Android phone i had in my hands had an acceptable minimum volume for media.
Now for the phone part. The minimum volume for the earpiece is still too loud. Not everyone talks all the time in a noisy environment. If i can hold the phone 10cm away from my ear and still can listen to the other one on the line than the volume is much too loud on the minimum setting. Simple as that. On iOS it's not. So on the media volume rocker you can adjust the volume one more step lower than on a phone call. That's just simple bad software engineering.
RAM isn't used on android the same way it's used on windows. Unused RAM is wasted RAM. You can read more about it here.
1GB of RAM is more than enough for a phone. Yeah having more wouldn't hurt, but 1GB is not going to limit you at all.
As for the interface lag, I don't have much of a problem. Yeah sense is definitely more laggy than stock, but HTC's done a much better job with Sense 4. You can speed things up by installing a smaller ROM (stock ROM is something like 600MB, there's some that are around 250MB), you can use the V6 Supercharger Script and you can install Seeder. That should help most if not all of your lag.
XSafire i really appreciate your comment about RAM and believe me i know this. I'm responsible for a few servers. Anyway i wrote explicit that i already encountered the "closing background apps" Multitastking of HTC. If HTC kills Sense process i'll be ok with that but the MUST NOT close any app i opened.
I'm done with rooting and all the thing. I want quality for my bucks and i had to use Android as my carrier has an issue with AMR-WB and the iPhone5. The more i use Android the more it reminds me of Windows. Somehow all works in someway but no brilliant. Really, why people are wasting money and time and especially time in making a product work which costs hundred of Euros (in Europe ...) ...
I don't want to install custom rom as HTC repair has the worst reputation here in Europe. I'm still on my return period so i'll return the phone.
BUT Sense 4+ and the overall build quality is much better than Nexus4 and Samsung (i like stock Android, but Sense4+ looks like software instead of TouchWiz).
Looks like you need to flash a custom Rom!
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xpla said:
XSafire i really appreciate your comment about RAM and believe me i know this. I'm responsible for a few servers. Anyway i wrote explicit that i already encountered the "closing background apps" Multitastking of HTC. If HTC kills Sense process i'll be ok with that but the MUST NOT close any app i opened.
I'm done with rooting and all the thing. I want quality for my bucks and i had to use Android as my carrier has an issue with AMR-WB and the iPhone5. The more i use Android the more it reminds me of Windows. Somehow all works in someway but no brilliant. Really, why people are wasting money and time and especially time in making a product work which costs hundred of Euros (in Europe ...) ...
I don't want to install custom rom as HTC repair has the worst reputation here in Europe. I'm still on my return period so i'll return the phone.
BUT Sense 4+ and the overall build quality is much better than Nexus4 and Samsung (i like stock Android, but Sense4+ looks like software instead of TouchWiz).
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Then return it.
I had the One X+ and love all the internal storage. I returned it because between my GS3 and iPhone 5 I didn't feel I gained much. Having said that, the One X+ STOCK, was great! To me, it did NOT lag. It worked great. Playing Dead Trigger on the highest settings without a problem.
Even though the devices with Quad-Core S4 Pro with Adreno 320 is more powerful, and with 2GB RAM, I decided to get the One X+ for various reasons. If I didn't have my GS3 or iPhone 5 I would have kept it for sure.
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Well, I've not noticed any particular lag either. And if free ram is REALLY so much of a concern...I can get 500mb+ free on mine by disabling unneccessary services and running the supercharger script, so I don't really think that argument is valid. I mean...it's pretty easy to condemn something without even giving it a chance or making any effort whatsoever to tweak it. -_-
As for feeling ripped off....NO. Not even slightly. It's an awesome phone in my opinion.
If OP likes IOS better, then that's fine. Go enjoy your iphone. :/