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Even after reading this forum all nite, I am still soooo confused, maybe too much new info in m'head. At any rate, I am trying to UG from WM5 to WM6 and am having a heck of a rough time. Everything goes good until it actually starts the process, at which time I get the 260 Connection Error. After plenty of research on here, I decided to try to "flash" the ROM, to no avail, for nothing happened. I can get into bootloader mode but then nothing else happens (perhaps I'm not waiting long enough? How long should I wait?) and I never see the screen pictured here - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing - so I just give up and reset. I am currently downloading the HardSPL utility so I can try flashing after the IPL and SPL ugrades. But I do have some questions still --
(1) Does my phone need to be "unlocked" to do this and how can I tell if it is or isn't?
(2) Can I just use the ROM that I downloaded from the HTC site or must I use one found somewhere on this forum?
Any other advice? All will be appreciated. Thanx.
Oh, yeah -- I'm working with a Cingular 8525 Hermes [HERM100 model number] Pocket PC. It's specs are:
ROM version 2.15.502.3
ROM date 04/09/07
Radio version 1.40.30.00
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.11
Have you read this http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeForBeginners ?
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Yes, I have, plus all the links branched from there. After about 3 hours of reading, I felt ready to try flashing, but it didn't work. The HardSPL utility is done downloading, so when I get home I'll try that and hope I finally get a successful upgrade. If not, I'll be back to the forums. Thanx!
What ROM are you upgrading to? The official AT&T ROM? I'd try that first if you're not already.
BDsBabyGirl said:
Even after reading this forum all nite, I am still soooo confused, maybe too much new info in m'head. At any rate, I am trying to UG from WM5 to WM6 and am having a heck of a rough time. Everything goes good until it actually starts the process, at which time I get the 260 Connection Error. After plenty of research on here, I decided to try to "flash" the ROM, to no avail, for nothing happened. I can get into bootloader mode but then nothing else happens (perhaps I'm not waiting long enough? How long should I wait?) and I never see the screen pictured here - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing - so I just give up and reset. I am currently downloading the HardSPL utility so I can try flashing after the IPL and SPL ugrades. But I do have some questions still --
(1) Does my phone need to be "unlocked" to do this and how can I tell if it is or isn't?
(2) Can I just use the ROM that I downloaded from the HTC site or must I use one found somewhere on this forum?
Any other advice? All will be appreciated. Thanx.
Oh, yeah -- I'm working with a Cingular 8525 Hermes [HERM100 model number] Pocket PC. It's specs are:
ROM version 2.15.502.3
ROM date 04/09/07
Radio version 1.40.30.00
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.11
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What operating system are you using? If its Vista you MUST use Mr. Vanx's guide to get past the connection problem. The standard Vista HTC driver is wrong when we want to flash rom's in bootloader mode and vista WMDC. Get it here:
MR VANX's VISTA GUIDE
Hard SPL is great after that. Just remember you warranty may be void if you have to go to AT&T for repairs and the see that bootloader. You shouldn't need Hard SPL to flash the standard AT&T rom or VP3G's or other AT&T based ROM's, but better safe than sorry.
Be sure to close EVERYTHING in the taskbar! Don't start any programs, allow any updates to mess around with the computer while its flashing..In fact, I disable my AV program and internet connection totally when I flash ROMS. (My Kaspersky started updating and virus scanning during my 1st flash..sucker froze and freaked me out!)
Once I dealt with unlocking and connection issues, I flashed the standard AT&T ROM, performed a hard reset immediately and then connected via WMDC and synced everything. I tested it for a few hours then decided to flash VP3G's excellent AT&T based ROM v3.62.3..I like to do a hard reset immediately after flashing to burn everything in...I've seen others in this forum do the same.
Another ROM I've found fun is S64's(Starbase64) 3.62 WWE v9 - It's not AT&T based but you can get WPBEAR's Config files to set your Medianet and proxy. There are other At&T settings CABs out there like Dr. Puttinghams. S64 ROM also includes Advanced Config 1.1 to set your keyboard to Cingular mapping.
Good Luck!
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My desktop PC is running Windows XP...
After trying the HardSPL method - which upgraded perfectly - I continue to have the above-mentioned problems; 260 Connection Error and inability to move beyond the tri-color screen to the one pictured on the page which instructs how to flash via SD card.
Thanx for the list of ROMs I can try. For the record, I have been using the "official" one I downloaded from the HTC website. *sigh* I guess I'll next look for the tutorial I saw somewhere around here on how to upgrade from the tricolor screen [or something like that, I think it was], as well as your advice.
But I do have another question -- how do I format the SD card? The tutorial I used on flashing with it mentioned formatting so I'll retry it with the card newly formatted (I didn't because it said I could just delete everything off the card OR format it).
I'll let you know how it goes...
Ahhh...Sorry for your troubles...I didn't have luck catching an upgrade from the SD Card method on my 8525 either.
I know it seems a bit much but, is your active sync working correctly? Upgraded to 4.5 and all that? Can you sync and Backup all your data then try uninstal, reboot, re-installing AS?
I wonder what would happen if one tried Mr Vanx's instructions on a Win XP box?
I also had heard somewhere about messing around with when Active sync is started. Also as a last ditch, maybe try this from the HTC Wiki:
http://www.htcwiki.com/thread/667087/ActiveSync+and+Rom+8525?t=anon
Good luck
BDsBabyGirl said:
My desktop PC is running Windows XP...
After trying the HardSPL method - which upgraded perfectly - I continue to have the above-mentioned problems; 260 Connection Error and inability to move beyond the tri-color screen to the one pictured on the page which instructs how to flash via SD card.
Thanx for the list of ROMs I can try. For the record, I have been using the "official" one I downloaded from the HTC website. *sigh* I guess I'll next look for the tutorial I saw somewhere around here on how to upgrade from the tricolor screen [or something like that, I think it was], as well as your advice.
But I do have another question -- how do I format the SD card? The tutorial I used on flashing with it mentioned formatting so I'll retry it with the card newly formatted (I didn't because it said I could just delete everything off the card OR format it).
I'll let you know how it goes...
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Just another tip... Try a different usb port. I've found that sometimes certain usb ports behave differently during the upgrade procedures. So, far I've upgraded three 8525's on Win XP and only one gave me the problem you've described and connecting the sync cable in another port corrected the problem.
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shihayadreamer said:
...I also had heard somewhere about messing around with when Active sync is started. Also as a last ditch, maybe try this from the HTC Wiki:
http://www.htcwiki.com/thread/667087/ActiveSync+and+Rom+8525?t=anon
Good luck
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OMG! SHIHAYADREAMER! That was JUST the TICKET! I read it and realized that I'd been doing it right all along, I just didn't realize I was! THIS time, I hooked up my cable at the very beginning and let it go. Before, I'd started waiting to hook it up until the instructions asked if I had because I'd gotten to the tricolored screen (the bootloader?) the 1st time and figured I did something wrong. Thanx to that forum, I returned to what I did the very first time and got victory! *falls down sobbing and weeping with joy* I wasted 25 hours because of fear! OMG! *dances around, singing* I've got WM6! I've got WM6!
I know that being reminded to turn off my firewall and stop all the programs in the taskbar played a big role, as well. But I just give a big "Thanx" (on Thanksgiving! *LOL*) to everyone who answered this board because you all helped me so very very much.
Dear Members,
I tried to upgrade my JasJam with "838Pro_HK_ENG_WM6_Upgrade_20070712"
Which worked with other JasJams (Many of my friends has it working).
On upgrading, it stucked on 11% saying Error [262]
I went through recovery, and it said remove the USB cable, remove the Battry, Return it, start the phone, connect the USB, and its recovered.
After that Its again stucked in 100% and the same senario is happening.
Please tell me is there any possibility to restore my phone working.
Its stuck now, and only the (Three color screen) is on the screen.
Hard reset, soft reset is not functioning, and the phone refused to show anything except the three color screen.
I searched the forum, but found no relative article, I am searching since two days your forum and I know that no other forums can help me in this as I was always getting my help from yours.
Thanks for your time.
HERM100
IPL-1.04
HERM100
SPL-1. 40. 0lopro
If you're using XP then untick "Allow USB Connection" in activesync.
Reset to bootloader on your Hermes, Hold power, OK button above flywheel and reset with stylus.You will get the same screen you have now but it won't be a f*&%ed up version of bootloader. Connect to PC by USB and Install Hard SPL V7, found here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
After this, use the sd card method to install the ROM.
1. Format a 2Gb or less sd card FAT32. ?CFopy the .nbh file of the rom you want to it and rename to hermimg.nbh .
2. Insert into phone and reset to bootloader.
3 If you did everything right then follow the prompts...
Cheers...
Again problem!
Dear ultramag69,
Thank you for your fast reply.
I did (untick) that option in the ActiveSync.
And also did reset to the device by holding the Power + Ok (under the flywheel) with Stylus reset.
After that I downloaded "Hard SPL V7" and tried to update.
First of all, in the "Hard SPL V7" there was only the last option active, and there was down a checkbox also active, but when choosing the last option, checkbox bocomes like everything else disabled.
However, I got the erro 286
I felt like the Device disconnected from USB and reconnected again (Windows gave me the sound when you remove some USB device and you re-connect it again) :-|
I don't know what to do with this dead device now !
Thank you very very much for your time and help
Don't quote me on this as I suspect you need Hard SPL V7 but, as yo've tried things out and you're about to quit anyway, Try using the sd card to update the Stock rom, the rom that came on your Hermes, or updated version. It might let you do it if the CID matches.
I don't believe SPL 1.40 allowed you to flash ANY rom but it may let you re-install the stock rom BUT it must be the original carrier software it came with. If you had Telstra rom on it when you got it, it must be a telstra rom you flash. Make sure its for the right country too as some carriers are all over the world.
Cheers...
Hello ultramag69,
Thanks alot for your reply.
Having my i-mate dead, is really interesting.
I am trying to recover it up, Mine came with (HTC) logo when booting, and I did flushed it with Dopod.
But recently, the network stopped, and I asked some experts, they said it need new OS (They ment to re-flush the ROM).
I tried with the same Dopod that was successful before, and its now stucked on 11%.
I even downloaded the Telstra but the same, it stucked on 13%.
This is my entire story, and still I am trying to get it up.
Thanks alot for your helping. nice of you.
And for all who read my post, if they had such experience before, please help.
Hello ultramag69,
Thanks alot for your reply.
Having my i-mate dead, is really interesting.
I am trying to recover it up, Mine came with (HTC) logo when booting, and I did flushed it with Dopod.
But recently, the network stopped, and I asked some experts, they said it need new OS (They ment to re-flush the ROM).
I tried with the same Dopod that was successful before, and its now stucked on 11%.
I even downloaded the Telstra but the same, it stucked on 13%.
This is my entire story, and still I am trying to get it up.
Thanks alot for your helping. nice of you.
And for all who read my post, if they had such experience before, please help.
If you can, try to find the original SHIPPED STOCK ROM. It may be your Hermes won't be recoverable as the flash stopped in the radio rom part. Most people use a cooked rom as this has the radio rom part out.
I personally use the sd card method to flash my roms so there are no sync errors or accidents with my PC. But you need Hard SPL V7 installed to get that to work with any but the shipped rom.
DON'T try flashing anything but the shipped rom or you will loose all chances of recovering your Hermes.
The only other suggestion would be to flash the SHIPPED RADIO ROM, but you need to know what radio it was before you flashed it with the dopod rom.
Unfortunately the radio rom is the Achilles heel of our phone series. Any problems during flashing of that means we pretty much end up with a brick 99% of the time. Most people are stuck and the rest seem to have limited success reflashing the radio. AVERY small percentage get it working with no trouble, but its a REALLY small amount of people.
Good luck, Make sure you flash with the SHIPPED STOCK ROM to improve your chances of success.
Cheers...
Ultramag69, Thanks alot for your consideration.
Flusching using SD card didn't success with SPL V7.
I formatted my MicroSD card, 2GB with Fat32 FS.
After that I copied the file that came with the zip archive (RUU_signed.nbh) and renamed as required: (herming.nbh).
And I put it in my i-mate, and holded the (Power + OK under flyweel) then restarted using the stylus, It showed me the tri-color screen, then it shows (Loading...) with Gray background screen (Which is normally the flusching screen) but it returned to the tri-color screen.
Any suggestions to get this SPL V7 installed successfully ?
I tried with all my (.nbh) files that I have downloaded from all sources, but its the same screen.
I think something is really wrong with me i-mate, should I take it to some Hard-ware service center ? and what can be damaged and need to be replaced in such cases ?
I am very excited in getting it working again.
Thanks alot.
Cheers...
I had bricked my Hermes a couple o' times, because of a rom I cooked half-way ( LOL ). Each time I had to flash back to the stock rom as suggested. Don't lose hope, cuz there's some people who will tell you just to accept it as bricked. You could also take the sucker apart and use jtags to flash. Most types of bricks can be solved when it comes to the Hermes. There's a thread somewhere that polled the different types of bricks, and except for radio bricks, most can be solved. If you unbrick it try 6.5 .... !!! My rom is cooked all the way now
Arwany, did you run the SSPL.exe file in the sd card instructions for Hard SPL found on page 116, post 1160 of the Hard SPL thread? You need a version of Soft SPL (SSPL) to flash using the sd card as the CID must be bypassed. The reason we Hard SPL our Hermes is because its safer. Its worthwhile flashing the SPL using unsafe SSPL (even if you use the pc you have Soft SPL installed) as its a short flash, flashing a rom (especially stock roms with the radio rom inside) is a riskier and longer flash.
Cheers...
I had the same problem.. All you have to do is establish a connection with Actisync, then run the Updater. There will be 3 colors on your Screen, sont worry, just wait 10-15 min and your should be done with the setup.
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Arwany said:
Ultramag69, Thanks alot for your consideration.
Flusching using SD card........ with the zip archive (RUU_signed.nbh) and renamed as required: (herming.nbh).
And I put it in my i-mate..........
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Hi,Just to tell You that I've noticed a little spelling mistake.You've written "herming.nbh" But it should be "Hermimg.nbh".
Not the 1st person to make that mistake, and probably won't be the last.....
Hi All,
Yeah, that worked out for me, I could successfully flush my JasJam with that.
Thanks for your reply.
I am still facing problem when trying to flush with other OS, its always stuck on the GSM line.
I am using the SD flush method.
Any suggestions ?
THank s alot for your help!
If you have the no GSM problem the only way to, maybe, fix is to flash the original SHIPPED STOCK ROM, or the original radio rom. Flashing anything else may result in a permanent brick...
If it doesn't succeed then, sorry, its not repairable. Can be used as a PDA but not as a phone ever again.
Cheers...
Thansks Ultramag69, for all the helps, It solved my main problem.
You also Ekonkar, your comments was so helpful.
I will try to do some hardware repairing in some Mobile shop, they may get it up again !
To fix it will cost more than to get a new device... They'll tell you they can't fix it or it needs a new mainboard. Will still cost you for this nugget of info. My advice, buy a Hermes off ebay, either working or not. If its not, make sure its screen related problem cos you have the parts to fix... Unless your screen has gone bung too...
Cheers...
I gave it to the repairing guy, he replaced the GSM item and its up and running now for only 20$.
Prost :-D
Sweet, You should post where and what country so others in the same situation might be able to get their Hermes up & running.
I got an iMate JASJAM from my father awhile back - a great hand-me-down if you ask me!
It's currently running Windows Mobile 5 w/ default just about everything.
HERM100
IPL-1.01
HERM100
SPL-1.11
Anyway, onto my problem.
I'm using the Hard SPL upgrade files found in Olipro's thread.
I run it and it works up until I select "Yes" on my device.
It then reboots into the bootloader and just sits there and does nothing until finally the installer throws an error 260.
Anyone else had this problem?
Is there a simple fix?
If it makes any difference, I've got a Mini-SD card in it. 512mb.
Go to the Hard SPL thread, page 116, post 1160. It tells you (and gives all apps needed) how to install using the SD card... Gets rid of those pesky sync problems.
You can use the sad card method to upgrade your os too, just drop the steps using sspl.exe....
Cheers...
wonderbreadz said:
I got an iMate JASJAM from my father awhile back - a great hand-me-down if you ask me!
It's currently running Windows Mobile 5 w/ default just about everything.
HERM100
IPL-1.01
HERM100
SPL-1.11
Anyway, onto my problem.
I'm using the Hard SPL upgrade files found in Olipro's thread.
I run it and it works up until I select "Yes" on my device.
It then reboots into the bootloader and just sits there and does nothing until finally the installer throws an error 260.
Anyone else had this problem?
Is there a simple fix?
If it makes any difference, I've got a Mini-SD card in it. 512mb.
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i got your problem on my i-mate jasjam too,
have u solve the problem yet?
i face the same problem
Well I flashed maybe 30 HTC Tytn PDA`s (I work in service) and never bricked any... I never putted cooked roms,bcs this roms are stupid.And a lot of cooked roms use much more ram and many of them have simple appcliations,which you can to install alone... So,my advice for peoples : Use official Win Mobile 6 rom from HTC ftp server.You can find links in this forum also...And yeah I dont need HARD SPL for official... never bricked.
Depends slaki85 if the Hermes has been Branded... For example, I have the Telstra rom on my Jasjam, if I tried to put the HTC official rom onto it, I'd have a brick... The carrier rom prevents me putting any other rom on it other than theirs.... And it ALWAYS has a heap of bloatware.
You also can't put wm6.5 on...
Hard SPL allows me to put other roms, cooke or official, that I can't put on without ending up with a brick.
As for the guys who can't put Hard SPL on, use the sd card method as I said before. Its easier, means there's less chance of a brick and takes 2 secs...
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Depends slaki85 if the Hermes has been Branded... For example, I have the Telstra rom on my Jasjam, if I tried to put the HTC official rom onto it, I'd have a brick... The carrier rom prevents me putting any other rom on it other than theirs.... And it ALWAYS has a heap of bloatware.
You also can't put wm6.5 on...
Hard SPL allows me to put other roms, cooke or official, that I can't put on without ending up with a brick.
As for the guys who can't put Hard SPL on, use the sd card method as I said before. Its easier, means there's less chance of a brick and takes 2 secs...
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Yeah,you are in right with 6.5 WinMo...I really tryed before Win 6.5,and expect few visual changes,he dont have anything new..With 6.5 or 6.5 + Manilla-TouchFLo,TyTN is very slow...what to say about ram memory...sometimes and 15 MB more busy...I understand that peoples always will put new rooms,I only dont understand why peoples risk...Expect if some win dont have some big changes.byw if someone want to put official HTC 6.0 rom,I tryed many times with 100% sucess in HTC TyTN and SPV M3100 (also TyTN but from postpaid Operators)..
I also agree that is HARD SPL good sometimes.I only dont understand why peoples change roms... : P especially custom roms...(few apps more and speed,ram slower...).But probablly I am subjective : )
Again, if you have a carrier rom they tend to overload it with bloatware, software and apps that use their sites. It tends to slow down the hermes and, truth be told, I've started with less than 15Mb ram using the stock rom... When you have that happen, cooked roms are a much better alternative. Also, if you use the apps cooked in it means you don't have to hunt down the cabs yourself....
Much easier....
Ok, after 2 days of fighting, sweating, a pc hdd full with roms,tools,mtty,etc...
...i'm giving up. i am posting a help request for the first time since i am a xda user,
and that's been for almost 2 years now. i rather solve problems by doing research on the xda forums but this time i am out of energy.
i had an raphael before where the hacking process was pretty straightforward
and flashing a cooked rom was really idiotproof.
now i got an cool athena in my hands. i was like yeah, let's flash baby....and
the original OS didn't even last for half of a day. quick enough i realised that
this baby shouldn't be flashed the raphael way - the sd card method...
ok let's get on topic:
what i did:
flashed with the AP4 SPL 3.5 AthenaUpdater (following the howto exactly)
and well. that worked fine. the OS was booting and everything. but to my
surprise it looked like that AP4 update flash thing didn't ship another cooked
rom, but flashed my SPL only. i rather expected a SPL, CID unlock and ROM
install in one single package. i don't know what made me think that, since the
raphael has to be flashed with different stuff too before beeing able to...bla
since i was so happy to find that AP4 update howto i guess i was assuming
that this is the whole deal since it doesn't say anything about seperate CID
unlocking in that .pdf
anyway, i looked for a cooked spl 3.5 compatible rom and there i found it:
[ROM] *Updated Mar/4/2010* AGB V3.00.0 (WM6.5.5 build 23534)
and well, that was basically it. the flash went ok, but after booting only
the rom's splash screen appears and nothing further happens. hard reset
doesn't help.
i tried a few other roms after that, and again. only the rom-specific custom
flash image appears and nothing happens.
tried to flash the AP3 for SPL 3.5 ROM - same thing: flash screen says "operating system is loading", which is an bitmap picture i guess...
downgrade to SPL 1.2 doesn't seem possible since this requires a running
WM, which i don't have.
bootloader works by the way, hard reset works too, but no fix...
after a little reading i get the idea that i should have cid unlocked the device
before flashing with a cooked rom? or did i something else wrong?
any help would be appreciated
oh yeah, and mtty:
the recover from invalid id procedure doesn't fix the issue.
and:
set 14 0
task 8
doesn't fix anything too, just boots the device into the never ending flash screen....
quick questions
what does your boot screen say
and did you remove your sd and simcard before flashing
yeah, the i ofcourse removed the sd card and sim card before everything.
i am at work now but afaik my bootloader screen says:
ATHE100
IPL 2.02
SPL 3.50.Olipro
before the attempt with mtty it said
ATHE400
IPL 2.02
SPL 3.50.Olipro
something like that. is that helpful?
i'm wondering that almost nobody replies. is the athena projcet kinda dead
or am i just asking BS, i don't know. anyway, i'll keep this one posted.
i have a new status of my athena: it boots a ROM for the first time. i have flashed
it with a test rom, called:
Windows Mobile 6.1 Base ROM (Testing)
It can be found on the athena latest ROM links page.
And ofcourse there is a BUT(T)....
BUT..the configuration wizard keeps looping. Means the device boots WM6.1,
asks me to calibrate the screen. after that touchflo (or sense) shows up for a few seconds, a progress bar appears and installs some (invisible) stuff and the device reboots. Normal behaviour you'd say, but the calibration screen comes again, and the progress bar too, and reboots, and again, and again...
maybe somebody could tell me how to stop that process? it seems like the
device doesn't save the first time setup settings. how to fix it?
ultrasonyk said:
i'm wondering that almost nobody replies. is the athena projcet kinda dead
or am i just asking BS, i don't know. anyway, i'll keep this one posted.
i have a new status of my athena: it boots a ROM for the first time. i have flashed
it with a test rom, called:
Windows Mobile 6.1 Base ROM (Testing)
It can be found on the athena latest ROM links page.
And ofcourse there is a BUT(T)....
BUT..the configuration wizard keeps looping. Means the device boots WM6.1,
asks me to calibrate the screen. after that touchflo (or sense) shows up for a few seconds, a progress bar appears and installs some (invisible) stuff and the device reboots. Normal behaviour you'd say, but the calibration screen comes again, and the progress bar too, and reboots, and again, and again...
maybe somebody could tell me how to stop that process? it seems like the
device doesn't save the first time setup settings. how to fix it?
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Hi mate
I live in a different time zone and my daily email about updates to posts comes late in my day and probably when you sleep.
There are not many people who use this device and it is really a legacy machine.
However your post gives a clue to what happened.
with the bootscreen showing athe400 initially are you sure you have an x7500/x7501 or is it the x7510?
Just make sure before you follow the solution in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387596&highlight=endless+loop
the roms are very different
Check out exactly which hardware you have
this thread is from the x7510 thread and may be worth a read if you have the x7510
Additionally cmonex has the knowlege to fix your issuues if the above doesn,t work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441684
thank god, somebody replied with useful information
well, i must be honest i didn't pay too much attention on the model number.
after reading your post, i checked and i see that i have a X7510 advantage device.
which means as far as i can understand it:
i SHOULD have the modelid ATHE400?
which means, i messed it up by flashing it with mtty to modelID ATHE100?
which means, all the time i was installing X7500 stuff on the wrong device
and bricked it that way?
so the AP4 3.5 SPL solution is not for X7510?
which means, the AP4 3.5 SPL is a hard SPL but for another device?
and after all, what do you suggest? do i need to revert my modelID
to ATHE400 and if yes, how? and after that i should follow the 2nd
thread to install a proper hardSPL and a WM6.5 ROM of my choice?
try contacting cmonex
the author of this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441684
wrote the script you used to change the device id and may have a way to reverse this
good luck
lakeman, my friend!
you pointed me to the right direction. i followed the steps for installing
hardspl for x7510 from cmonex, and yeah, the modelid changed back
to athe400 and the device was booting! seems like that hardspl also
corrects the modelid automatically.
i am still curious why the device was working after flashing with AP4 3.5 SPL
in first place, since that one is actually for X7500 devices.
i should 've read some more before going to flash that thing, i must admit.
many thanks to you lakeman, and big ups for that cmonex guy!
now it's time to look for a nice wm6.5 rom for my ATHE400
fantastic
happy to help
Hi guys,
Mods - first time post and im not a regular user so if im breaking the rules i apologise. I have spent hours already trawling the forums, but i am now admitting defeat and I need your help!
My Problem:
I have an x7501 SPL 1.06 0000, WM 5.0, GERMAN OS
I want to upgrade this to WM6.1 ENGLISH
I dont care what the SPL is, as long as it works, is reliable, and wont disable any standard WM functionality
I am not interested in tweaks, hulks, or other (non standard) tricks, i just want to get the device running a stock WM 6.1 rom
That said - if you guys think that going to 6.5 is the best (non beta, no risk) option, then im quite happy to go that route.
$50 reward to the first person who provides the following info IN A FORMAT THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND. im good with computers for a non pro (and can follow instructions , but this is just over my head!
I Need:
1) Link to an unlocker and instructions how to use, that will give me the required SPL (note my SPL is 1.06 - will this require two SPL flash steps??)
2) Link to a stable ROM that retains all windows functionality, and instructions how to use it.
If i find that i used two or more peoples help i will split the reward accordingly!
thanks in advance and keep up the good work!
Alan K
First you need to download the unlocker from this thread and follow instructions... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
This will give you SPL 1.2
Here is a handy thread with step by step instructions on upgrading your roms you should read through before beginning to flash...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429013
Unfortunately, the stock-like wm6.5 roms made by michy-prima that ran on spl1.2 are no longer hosted on any sites anymore. I can try to contact him for you and see if I can get a copy directly from him. I will see if I can do that.
Otherwise, you can change your spl to 3.5, which you might as well do anyways, as there are more roms for that spl and even the stock-like michy-prima roms were made in spl3.5 also, so if I can get those, I will get the spl 3.5 versions.
So to then change your spl to 3.5, you must have first used unlocker to make spl 1.2, then the only way that was made to change spl to 3.5 was to flash the Athena Project 4 rom, so go to this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387409 and download the AP ROM V.4, unzip it, and run the flasher while your phone is connected with active-sync to your computer. This will install the spl3.5 and the AP4 Rom.
Now that that is done, you can choose any SPL3.5 ROM to flash... (make sure to only flash SPL3.5 Roms now... if need be, there is a way to go back to SPL1.2 if you need to, but there really is no reason you would need to.)
Probably the most modern rom with the most features would be the AGB Version 3.00 ROM, The Hulk one (I know you said you didn't want that, but it is the most current rom, and you can easily change the theme and wallpaper on it. This is the ROM I have on my Athena... its a nice ROM.) Here is the thread for that ROM... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614158
Just unzip the rom after you download it, and like before, hook phone up to computer and let it sync, then run the installer. You can also use the ealier AGB roms, too, if they look better to you, or any rom you come across as long as it is a spl3.5 rom.
And I will try to contact michy-prima to see if I can get one of his old clean wm6.5 roms or his stock wm6.1 roms, but I wouldn't count on me being able to get one from him. Personally I think the newer AGB ROMs are alot better and more recent and updated and would recommend using them.
Also, here is a convenient thread I just found that has links to many different builds and useful tools and guides... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397518 ... so if you want to try out a couple wm6.1 while you have spl1.2 or even after flashing spl3.5, as a lot of roms are made for both spls. Just make sure you only flash roms made for the spl that you have on your phone.
I hope this helps... if you have any more questions, feel free to pm me and I'll be glad to help. Happy flashing!
Hi Zarathustrax,
Thanks for the extensive instructions. I will be checking it this week so hopefully ill be sending you some greenbacks by Friday!
Thanks again!
Al
bigalk said:
Hi Zarathustrax,
Thanks for the extensive instructions. I will be checking it this week so hopefully ill be sending you some greenbacks by Friday!
Thanks again!
Al
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Like I said, if you have any more questions or problems, feel free to ask here or pm me.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Also, if you prefer to have a winmo 6.1 ROM over the 6.5 ROM I suggested, there are links to many 6.1 ROMs in that last thread I linked. Here's the link again... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397518
MichyPrima's roms are no longer hosted, but I have heard good things about Taxists and Sogarths ROMs. You can easily try a rom and then flash another if you don't like it. Just remember, make sure to flash roms for the spl that you have. If you have SPL3.5 and want a spl1.2 rom, there are links to the tool to change back to spl1.2. The only way to go from spl 1.2 to spl 3.5 is to flash the Athena Project 4 ROM, then after that you can flash any spl3.5 you want. Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.
Hi Zarathustrax,
just to let you know - i still havent managed to allocate time to this yet.
I havent forgotten about you, and im not pulling a fast one!
thanks again for your time and effort!
Al
Hi Zarathustrax,
In the very first step (unlocker link) Olipro says "follow the steps...."
I cant see the steps he mentions anywhere? This is one of the reasons for my original post
any ideas?
Al
Forget my last question - unlocker has the steps!
Hi Zarathustrax,
tried twice and i keep getting error 202 - "check cables....... cannot connect to phone"
I have:
1) connected and synced via active sync
2) set active sync not to sync any items except for files
any ideas?
thanks
Ive tried everything i can. ALL windows updates installed (along with .net 2.0)
AV disabled
Athenaunlocker added to firewall exceptions - im on a work network so firewall is controlled through group policy - so i cant completely disable. do you think this might be the problem?
bigalk said:
Ive tried everything i can. ALL windows updates installed (along with .net 2.0)
AV disabled
Athenaunlocker added to firewall exceptions - im on a work network so firewall is controlled through group policy - so i cant completely disable. do you think this might be the problem?
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Hmmm... might be. I'll look into this and see if I can figure anything out.
Oh, by the way, sorry I missed your messages until now. I don't check these forums daily, so if you need to contact me quicker, send a private message to me.
bigalk said:
Hi Zarathustrax,
tried twice and i keep getting error 202 - "check cables....... cannot connect to phone"
I have:
1) connected and synced via active sync
2) set active sync not to sync any items except for files
any ideas?
thanks
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I've been reading through the forums trying to find an answer... at what point does it show this error? Is it right away? Does the x7501 change screen at all or do anything? I think I remember having problems like this when I unlocked it years ago... but can't remember exactly what I did. Does the x7501 go to it's tricolored bootloader screen at all? It maybe is having problems installing usb drivers while it's in bootloader mode if it changes into bootloader mode when you get that error. Let me know asap so we can get this solved. Also, have you tried using another cable at all?
Putting phone in usb Mode
Try installing Enablerapi.cab before using the olipro unlocker.
Are you still on this
When you run the unlocker there are 3 steps - these are three separate buttons that appear on the flasher each time.
Can you indicate at which step you get this error? Go to this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378216
...IT IS IN GERMAN...but it gives very nice pics of the process...using google translate you can get some idea. BUT if you can indicate which step you were able to complete.....we can help better !
Also, what windows operating system?
bigalk said:
Ive tried everything i can. ALL windows updates installed (along with .net 2.0)
AV disabled
Athenaunlocker added to firewall exceptions - im on a work network so firewall is controlled through group policy - so i cant completely disable. do you think this might be the problem?
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chappatti said:
When you run the unlocker there are 3 steps - these are three separate buttons that appear on the flasher each time.
Can you indicate at which step you get this error? Go to this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378216
...IT IS IN GERMAN...but it gives very nice pics of the process...using google translate you can get some idea. BUT if you can indicate which step you were able to complete.....we can help better !
Also, what windows operating system?
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I'm kinda thinking he gave up or something.... I've pm'ed him and have been trying to get more info on his problem for a couple weeks. I think he was having the problem on the first step... and the enablerapi will probably solve his problem.
But doing all this reading and trying to solve this problem has got me to pull out my old athena and start playing with it again... it's been a couple years since I've used it... I'm on the HD2 now, dualbooting WP7 and android.... but I've gotten an interest in getting my athena set-up and working again. The athena was way ahead of it's time.... if we could get devs interested in it again and get a good android build ported over, it would make an awesome tablet/phone. I think I'm gonna try to play around with getting android booting on it, but my knowledge of linux and low-level kernel work is limited to none. The best I can do is try to put together a build with what kernels/tools are already out and working on the athena, which isn't much. I think they had it booting and got touch screen working, but not much past that.
Hi zarathustrax,
no i havent given up . was checking in regularly to see if i had any response from you but never even looked at the pms. sorry.
i have a few hours to crack into this now so ive set up on a new machine (different av and firewall) and im going to have a go.
will report back - thanks for all the additional info my man!
al
ok - so i unlocked successfully but i think i may have fcked up. when i read olipros unlocker thread its says that only step 1 is necessary, ("but if you do step 2 you must also do step 3")
as i was trying to get to spl 3.5 i presumed that i didnt need to do step 2 or 3. this might have been a bad choice.
heres what happened:
ran unlocker step 1, it worked, phone rebooted. i finished there as i wasnt sure if i needed step 2 or 3
loaded bootloader screen to check spl. spl said olipro 1.2. i though cool - rebooted phone and now its a black screen. i can get into the bootloader screen whish says:
ATHE100
IPL-V1.00
ATHE100
SPL-V1.20. Olipro
have been reading up on next steps, or how to get rid of blackscreen but no conclusive answer.
its friday so im off home - battle lost but the war aint over!
Well. I'm not an expert (my Ameo was unlocked as I bought it) but if I understand, the black screen is because the ROM on your device dont match the new SPL you have. Try to flash a new ROM (SPL 1.2, right?) should help.
bigalk said:
ok - so i unlocked successfully but i think i may have fcked up. when i read olipros unlocker thread its says that only step 1 is necessary, ("but if you do step 2 you must also do step 3")
as i was trying to get to spl 3.5 i presumed that i didnt need to do step 2 or 3. this might have been a bad choice.
heres what happened:
ran unlocker step 1, it worked, phone rebooted. i finished there as i wasnt sure if i needed step 2 or 3
loaded bootloader screen to check spl. spl said olipro 1.2. i though cool - rebooted phone and now its a black screen. i can get into the bootloader screen whish says:
ATHE100
IPL-V1.00
ATHE100
SPL-V1.20. Olipro
have been reading up on next steps, or how to get rid of blackscreen but no conclusive answer.
its friday so im off home - battle lost but the war aint over!
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Just replied to your pm before checking this thread, so I see that you can still get to SPL bootloader screen. So, what you should be able to do now is get your phone to bootloader screen and hook it up to pc like that. Then let any drivers that are installing finish, and where it says "serial" at the bottom should change to "USB".
At this point, you can now run a custom rom installer and flash a new rom. Since you want to change to SPL3.5, you should install the Athena Project 4 ROM.
Or if you want to leave it at this SPL for a while and test out a couple WM6.1 ROMS that use this SPL, just flash one of these. Here's a good thread that lists almost every ROM available with links and says what SPL they're for... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397518
I'll do a little more research also about the screen not coming on to make sure it's not some other problem, but it probably is just the current rom isn't compatible with the new SPL.
I'm sending this post to your pm too.
Also, make sure you have the SD card and sim card removed when doing flashing. And check what radio you have on your phone... you must have atleast radio 1.50 or higher to use Athena Project 4 or most WM6.1 or WM6.5 ROMS.