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Anyone having signal issues with Radio 3.42.30? I have the verizon xv6800, and i am dropping calls and having signal issues left and right where i never had issues before with any Verizon phone?
I dropped only one call, and that's when I was at home over the 4th. I have terrible service at home (usually no bars even show, 1 at the most), so I can't really say much. You want want to try the whole M.IP settings fix that everyone has been doing, it might help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406041
See if doing that stuff helps any (i know it seems slightly irrelevant, but it can't hurt to try)
scrawnyb said:
...i know it seems slightly irrelevant, but it can't hurt to try
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is it more irrelevant that 1 of the settings that supposedly needed to be changed was already correct by default? does that mean i shouldnt be having any issues and i just wished i had better service than i do? haha
How I did it:
Write down all the settings you currently have. WRITE THEM DOWN.
Change all M.IP settings to wrong values. Save, and if it dosen't tell you SR the phone.
Upon reboot, wait 15min and set the settings back to what they are supposed to be. SR if it doesn't tell you to.
Now, It took me like 10-15 of these cycles in order to get my phone to work... I don't know if it was my phone, the ROM, or VZW sucking. But now I get instant service, and plenty of bars.
I'm on Sprint and not having any issues at all - the only change I've noticed is faster GPS locking. I also have crappy service due to location, but when I'm not at that location, it's been working flawlessly. No dropped calls.
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Since switching over to the new Radio I'm having dropped calls, VERY poor reception, and almost no bars in areas where I usually have great signal... frustrating, I'm going to downgrade as soon as I have the chance
dogbeef said:
Since switching over to the new Radio I'm having dropped calls, VERY poor reception, and almost no bars in areas where I usually have great signal... frustrating, I'm going to downgrade as soon as I have the chance
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I'm having the same probs (Sprint) I switched back to an older radio and it was fine again.
Demilio said:
I'm having the same probs (Sprint) I switched back to an older radio and it was fine again.
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Dont you have to worry about certain ROMS and older radio's
I've also noticed that when I try to use the internet at home my internet sometimes refuses to work because the signal is too low when it always worked great before.
Also, this may be the source of my text messaging issues (have to resend about 4 times sometimes before it goes through).
I live in the country and have never got great signal but I didn't have as many issues before. I'd rather not downgrade... is there a newer radio ROM out somewhere I could try?
If I were to downgrade, any suggestions on which version to use?
Over the past few months starting just before 3.37 was released my signal went to unusable phone at my house. I was using 3.39 with the same results but was happy with the radio all in all. I bought a touch using 3.37 by default. It still had crap signal at my house but better then my titan I could atleast stay on the internet. I put 3.42.30 on my titan and my signal went from 0-1x to 1-2EVDO instantly. Now my phone acts like it used to the day I got the thing. I can kinda use my phone again lol instead of useless.
lost signal
i have had 5 dropped calls where i usually get great signal. and GPS still takes time to fix but does seem to be quick. I DEF lost signal strength when upgrading.
How many that upgraded are on Sprint vs. VZW..?
As I read the posting, I've noted that it seems that (unless I'm wrong...) those reporting improvement are currently Verizon Wireless users, and those with more dropped calls, etc. are Sprint users. Am I reading between the lines here, or is that accurate? If so, then those of us that are VZW customers should do the upgrade to the 3.42.30 Radio...! (and those of us on Sprint - should not.)
Sandy Korda said:
As I read the posting, I've noted that it seems that (unless I'm wrong...) those reporting improvement are currently Verizon Wireless users, and those with more dropped calls, etc. are Sprint users. Am I reading between the lines here, or is that accurate? If so, then those of us that are VZW customers should do the upgrade to the 3.42.30 Radio...! (and those of us on Sprint - should not.)
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I'm on Telus in Canada and have worse signal as far as I can tell.
I'm on Sprint and everything works great, GPS is better!
As I read the posting, I've noted that it seems that (unless I'm wrong...) those reporting improvement are currently Verizon Wireless users, and those with more dropped calls, etc. are Sprint users. Am I reading between the lines here, or is that accurate? If so, then those of us that are VZW customers should do the upgrade to the 3.42.30 Radio...! (and those of us on Sprint - should not.)
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If what you're saying is true, it's a coincidence.
Okay... let me be more direct...
Sandy Korda said:
As I read the posting, I've noted that it seems that (unless I'm wrong...) those reporting improvement are currently Verizon Wireless users, and those with more dropped calls, etc. are Sprint users. Am I reading between the lines here, or is that accurate? If so, then those of us that are VZW customers should do the upgrade to the 3.42.30 Radio...! (and those of us on Sprint - should not.)
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Those of you who've upgraded to the new 3.42.30 Radio...
1. What carrier are you with?
2. Did you notice any improvement, and if so - what? Please describe.
Thanks from all of us.
I am on Verizon. Switched back to .02. .30 was not working well for me. .02 works much better, GPS and service wise.
Sandy,
I'm on Verizon and use 3.42.30. There are noticeable improvements in both GPS lock time and overall signal strength.
My coworker is on Sprint, uses 3.43.30 and also notices an improvement in signal strength (GPS lock time is moot for him as Sprint uses aGPS and his lock times are near instant).
XV6800 with 3.42.30 and it seems no better/worse than it was before. GPS does work now, it didn't previously when 3.42.02 was loaded (It did with 3.35 too).
VZW
im on Verizon, and 2 different units verified the poor signal and dropped calls. i used to get great signal with old drivers maybe could be something else...
3.2.0 DCD with 3.42.30
Hello,
Does anyone know of any antennas or other physical devices that I can use to boost my cell phone's signal? In my apartment in Connecticut, I drop calls all the time while talking but it doesn't really happen anywhere else so I only need to improve the signal in my place. I remember I used to have an actual antenna for my old Nokia phone that would stick to the outside of my car. Also, I once had one of those signal boosting stickers that went on the back of the phone.
If anyone knows of any reliable way to boost the signal on my T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 in Connecticut that doesn't involve flashing a new radio, I'd appreciate it. Thank you!
tinpanalley said:
Hello,
Does anyone know of any antennas or other physical devices that I can use to boost my cell phone's signal? In my apartment in Connecticut, I drop calls all the time while talking but it doesn't really happen anywhere else so I only need to improve the signal in my place. I remember I used to have an actual antenna for my old Nokia phone that would stick to the outside of my car. Also, I once had one of those signal boosting stickers that went on the back of the phone.
If anyone knows of any reliable way to boost the signal on my T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 in Connecticut that doesn't involve flashing a new radio, I'd appreciate it. Thank you!
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Did you wait for the sticker to boot up?
Check these guys out
They seem to have solutions for all cellphone applications
Cellphone-Mate looks reasonable.
http://shop.wirelessguys.com/by-manufacturer/Cellphone-Mate
http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/cell-phone/b8a0/
let me know how it works! haha
maybe try a different radio?
I know Best Buy sells signal boosters but i remember them being a bit expensive.
unfortunately our devices don't have an external antenna jack, i know the kaiser (original tilt)
Thanks guys.
As far as radios, do I just keep trying one by one until I see an improvement? Is there one that is known of that is stronger than others? The Fuze forum has a thread with people's results voting for which was best. Nothing like that here.
tinpanalley said:
Thanks guys.
As far as radios, do I just keep trying one by one until I see an improvement? Is there one that is known of that is stronger than others? The Fuze forum has a thread with people's results voting for which was best. Nothing like that here.
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Yes, exactly...you'll need to try out the ones that are available for your model, and just see which one gives the best results in your situation/location. You can read votes and recommendations all day long, but they can have no relation to what results you will see
THIS thread has the complete list of radios available for the Rhodium
Unwiredsignal with a Desktop kit 801247
You can try a Wilson desktop cell phone signal booster. It might work for you. I have one in my home office... (basement) and it covers that area only (20x20) so I think it would be perfect for an apartment. I havent tried it in a larger area, but Unwiredsignal.com says it will cover a one to two room area. There is no physical connection to your phone.
Hope this helps...
Jacob
Both ATT and TMobile offer microcell. Trialing in various areas.
It uses your existing broadband connection to relay calls to your phone.
Looking at ATTs' website it appears to be $150.00 for the equipment.
Here is a link.
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/why/3gmicrocell/
Thanks a lot guys. I'd hate to have to pay 320 for the one on Unwiredsignal.com but I'll look into it.
How is your 3G reception on the Vibrant? I just purchased a Vibrant as a replacement for my aging and bluetooth handicapped G1 and I am disappointed with the 3G reception.
T-Mobile's coverage in my area is moderate, and the G1 has been able to hold on to a 3G signal in most locations. Typically, at home the G1 will hold on to 2-3 bars of 3G, and at work I am lucky to get 1 -- usually camps out on 2G with 4 or 5 bars.
The Vibrant pretty much always shows 0 bars of 3G while indoors, and may even flop back to 2G. It is fairly consistently on 2G in my home at 2 bars and at work I can only get 1 bar of 2G with this phone and spend the majority of the time with no signal at all.
I sat down and did some comparison between the Vibrant and the G1 and have found the following:
1. *#*#4636#*#* menu shows significantly worse signal levels on the Vibrant than on the G1, often times showing 0db and 0asu in the same location I am seeing -89db to -101db 3G on the G1.
2. The service menu on the Vibrant indicates a signal level which on 3G is fairly consistently 8db better than the one shown on the info menu. Interestingly, 2G signal levels as shown on the service menu seem fairly spot on with those shown from the info menu in Android.
3. The service menu 3G signal levels on the Vibrant seem consistent with those that I see on the G1 with a variation of perhaps only a couple of decibels.
That said, it seems interesting that battery usage on the Vibrant seems to indicate nearly 60% of its time with no service under cell standby when I get 0% in the same location with the G1. I am wondering if the time being recorded here is in fact the time spent with 0 bars being displayed even if the phone does, in fact, have a signal.
It is apparent that there is at least a software issue with the display here, as has been concluded in prior threads. However, ignoring the bar display I am wondering what others feel of the signal coverage with their Vibrant versus their old phone?
Does anyone have any experience with any of Samsung's other phone offerings? Do you think Samsung will post a radio update for this phone or possibly release one along with the GPS Fix/Froyo update in September?
I work in a position which requires me to be on-call a certain times during the year, and I can't really afford to have a phone that camps out at 60% no signal. I am really looking for reasons to keep this phone, as I like it otherwise, but practically, I need a phone that is going to receive phone calls. Any objective indications anyone can give that Samsung will continue to support this device may help sway my decision to keep it. My 14 days will be up on Thursday, so I need to make a final decision about keeping this phone before then.
Also, do any developers think that modifying the handling of the signal display in Android will cause a change in the amount of time the phone spends acquiring signal between 3G and 2G, or is this something that is purely handled within the radio firmware? If this is changeable, is this something that can be included in a future custom rom?
No coverage issues with mine.matches my mt3g in pretty much every location.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
I made a call in the BOONDOCKS of NC, in an old river mill with 22 inch brick walls... NOBODY else was able to place a call other than me (all the big networks and nice phones).
I have pretty crappy 3g service here in new rochelle when at home the phone keeps fluctuating between 0-4 bars for 3G and the data speeds very inconsistent. Sometimes it even falls back to EDGE! This is pretty lame, i called t-mobile about it and they said there nothing they can do! If i am unhappy i should return the phone.
I live in NYC...
That is really all I have to say.
3-5 up speeds
constant 3g connection
The bars on the phone are funky though they look like there are none but you can still make calls. Its just the software is off just like the battery percentage.
Rishikesh said:
I have pretty crappy 3g service here in new rochelle when at home the phone keeps fluctuating between 0-4 bars for 3G and the data speeds very inconsistent. Sometimes it even falls back to EDGE! This is pretty lame, i called t-mobile about it and they said there nothing they can do! If i am unhappy i should return the phone.
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If you're at home why aren't you on WiFi?
Seriously it's the most puzzling thing ever. 3G or not, I wouldn't be using it at home. Are you trying to replace your ISP with your phone or something?
You should do a search. Are you aware of the fact that -0dBm is impossible? The bars are off on this phone and the G1 is mediocre overall. It can hold on to a 3G signal for longer because your hand isn't blocking the antenna but the antenna itself is truly mediocre in fringe areas. Move your hand away from the bottom hump on the Vibrant. A lot of questions you're asking.. you're answering yourself.
I am not all too impressed with 3G coverage here at my home, but I mostly blame the network at my location and not necessarily the phone. TMO has spotty coverage near my house....period, and I live less than a mile from the tower. I have a Blackberry 9700 and it has similar issues with 3G. I've called and complained and they give me the usual "you're green on the map...return the phone....blah blah". I was closer to downtown Dallas yesterday and the phone had full bars and never got higher than -80dbm. Speedtest app showed about 3mbps downloads on average. I wouldn't say it was stellar but it's nothing like at home either. Only thing is my phone never automatically drops from 3G to E unless I am making calls. Once again the Blackberry 9700 does the same thing.
However, I am not completely convinced the phone isn't to blame either. I had a week with the new Motorola XT720, aka AWS Motoroi/Milestone that Magenta is/was rumored (who knows?) to get, and if Moto hadn't skimped on the CPU/RAM/screen/app memory of that phone I would have kept it instead of this Vibrant. That phone seemed to get much better 3G signal and HSPA was excellent compared to the Vibrant. I'm lucky if the Vibrant gets HSPA here at all. Overall network performance just seemed faster. It was quite obvious when I powered up the Vibrant the first time that 3G coverage is going to be an issue at my home with this phone.
FWIW my wife has an iPhone 3G which gets great 3G coverage here at the house on ATT. So I borrowed her SIM to test after I unlocked the Vibrant and it didn't make much difference. It did get 3G which I didn't think was technically possible until I saw that this phone has 1900 3G support as well as AWS. I do think the bars and definitely the battery indicators are not accurate whatsoever. I use Battery Indicator Pro and it's definitely obvious Samsung needs a software re-work.
Just because you live within 1 mile of a tower doesn't mean it's 3G or that there isn't something in the way of it's signal and your house.. I live within 1 mile of a tower and it's not 3G. It's supposed to get 3G soon.
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If you're at home why aren't you on WiFi?
Seriously it's the most puzzling thing ever. 3G or not, I wouldn't be using it at home. Are you trying to replace your ISP with your phone or something?
You should do a search. Are you aware of the fact that -0dBm is impossible? The bars are off on this phone and the G1 is mediocre overall. It can hold on to a 3G signal for longer because your hand isn't blocking the antenna but the antenna itself is truly mediocre in fringe areas. Move your hand away from the bottom hump on the Vibrant. A lot of questions you're asking.. you're answering yourself.
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Maybe I don't have WiFi in my house?
Maybe I would love to reduce my monthly expenditures by the $60 I throw away to Comcast?
I am well aware of the fact that -0dbm is impossible. This is simply what the phone is displaying. I also agree that the G1's reception is mediocre, but this phone seems worse than the G1. Blocking the antenna with my hand doesn't seem to make much difference on either the Vibrant or the G1.
I asked for objective answers to my questions which basically boil down to the following:
1. Do you think Samsung will provide support for the software on this phone (including the radio) over the long term ie. do you think there will be upgrades in this department?
2. Do you think this is something custom rom developers can address purely via modifying the OS?
Thanks for your snarky comments, but if you haven't got any objective input into the situation maybe this thread is not for you.
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Maybe I don't have WiFi in my house?
Maybe I would love to reduce my monthly expenditures by the $60 I throw away to Comcast?
I am well aware of the fact that -0dbm is impossible. This is simply what the phone is displaying. I also agree that the G1's reception is mediocre, but this phone seems worse than the G1. Blocking the antenna with my hand doesn't seem to make much difference on either the Vibrant or the G1.
I asked for objective answers to my questions which basically boil down to the following:
1. Do you think Samsung will provide support for the software on this phone (including the radio) over the long term ie. do you think there will be upgrades in this department?
2. Do you think this is something custom rom developers can address purely via modifying the OS?
Thanks for your snarky comments, but if you haven't got any objective input into the situation maybe this thread is not for you.
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You're asking questions that we can't answer. Do we work at Samsung? No. Would stock Android fix this? Maybe.
It seems worse than the G1 because based on your comments the bars are having an affect on what you deem to be "worse". I've had tons of T-Mobile phones including the G1 and the Vibrant is not considerably worse than any. INFACT it will hold on to a 3G signal for longer than most. My CLIQ displayed 3 bars as -105dBm. Accurate? NO.
has been able to hold on to a 3G signal in most locations. Typically, at home the G1 will hold on to 2-3 bars of 3G, and at work I am lucky to get 1 -- usually camps out on 2G with 4 or 5 bars.
The Vibrant pretty much always shows 0 bars of 3G while indoors,
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Where is the antenna on the G1? If you're telling me you're putting your hand over it and not having any disconcernable change you're not doing it right
If you don't have WiFi at your house you need to get some.
heygrl said:
You're asking questions that we can't answer. Do we work at Samsung? No.
It seems worse than the G1 because based on your comments the bars are having an affect on what you deem to be "worse". I've had tons of T-Mobile phones including the G1 and the Vibrant is not considerably worse than any. INFACT it will hold on to a 3G signal for longer than most. My CLIQ displayed 3 bars as -105dBm. Accurate? NO.
Where is the antenna on the G1? If you're telling me you're putting your hand over it and not having much of a change at all you're lying or not doing it right.
If you don't have WiFi at your house you need to get some.
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I know that nobody here is working for Samsung but there are plenty of people here who have developed for Android, and the question I am posing is if this is something that can be addressed in a custom rom.
I think my original post makes it clear that there is obviously a software issue with bar display, but I am wondering if this software issue is also causing the Android OS to force a switch to 2G in an instance where the G1 with a properly functioning display would keep 3G. ie, the phone is switching to 2G early because it thinks it only has -111dbm when it in fact still has -103dbm. I am not clear on whether this functionality is performed within the OS itself or purely within the radio firmware.
My hands are rather large, so holding the G1 basically covers the entire rear of the phone. The antenna is near the top of the phone whereas the antenna on the Vibrant seems to be on the bottom. Though holding both phones in various positions seems to have little effect on the received signal strength so far as I can tell.
The time spent without signal in cell standby I believe to be erroneous. I think it is tallying up that time any time there are zero bars, even if the phone still has a signal. This makes it very difficult to objectively compare the 2 phones. If the OS is in fact driving the switch from 3G to 2G this may explain my poor access in fringe areas as the phone will be constantly flapping between the two. If the functions that drive this behavior are within the AOSP source this could easily be something we can fix in a custom rom even without Samsung's help, even if a radio update would be ideal.
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Where is the antenna on the G1? If you're telling me you're putting your hand over it and not having any disconcernable change you're not doing it right
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I can wrap my hand around the phone (Vibrant), either top, center or bottom and I do not see any change in either reception, call quality, network throughput or number of bars.
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If you don't have WiFi at your house you need to get some.
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It is perfectly understandable that if he has good reception with a G1, an older phone, he expects at least a similar level or reception with a newer, higher end phone. WiFi would be considered a workaround.
I just received my Vibrant on Monday and it's sadly replacing my amazing Nexus One. I've noticed that the Vibrant antenna is AWFUL. Where I received 4-5 bars on the N1, I'm getting 1-3 bars now and it even goes down to Edge once every few hours.
Like the OP, I've been monitoring the db levels and they're frequently around -95 through -107. While my calls don't actually drop, the quality does get worse. I'm also getting many 3G connection errors when trying to browser or download apps from the Market. It's quite disappointing. The phone is made of plastic as well, so I'd imagine that the antenna reception should be better.
Being that there are only 2 pages on this particular thread, does this mean it's a fluke and others' phones are ok?
allen099 said:
I just received my Vibrant on Monday and it's sadly replacing my amazing Nexus One. I've noticed that the Vibrant antenna is AWFUL. Where I received 4-5 bars on the N1, I'm getting 1-3 bars now and it even goes down to Edge once every few hours.
Like the OP, I've been monitoring the db levels and they're frequently around -95 through -107. While my calls don't actually drop, the quality does get worse. I'm also getting many 3G connection errors when trying to browser or download apps from the Market. It's quite disappointing. The phone is made of plastic as well, so I'd imagine that the antenna reception should be better.
Being that there are only 2 pages on this particular thread, does this mean it's a fluke and others' phones are ok?
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4-5 bars on a phone with a 4 bar scale?
Stop looking at -dBm on the Vibrant, it's not accurate.
If you don't want the phone to switch to EDGE lock it on 3G.
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4-5 bars on a phone with a 4 bar scale?
Stop looking at -dBm on the Vibrant, it's not accurate.
If you don't want the phone to switch to EDGE lock it on 3G.
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How do you lock it on 3G?
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How do you lock it on 3G?
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This worked for me (copy/paste and remove spaces in http):
h t t p://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7438987&postcount=7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7438987&postcount=7
Thanks. 3G is spotty at best in the Des Moines Area, so I'll leave well enough alone.
So, in follow up to this, I had downloaded and installed RF signal tracker from the market and went driving around until I found a tower. It seems that via Android OS the best signal strength received was -81dbm and that was sitting right next to the tower. The phone stayed locked at -81dbm for a few miles down the road so I suspect this is peak signal on this phone which should really be something like -65dbm. I think this pretty much confirms that there is indeed a software issue with the signal display.
I also took some time looking at Android code and found that the bars are driven on GSM/UMTS by asu as follows:
if (asu <= 2 || asu == 99) iconLevel = 0;
else if (asu >= 12) iconLevel = 4;
else if (asu >= 8) iconLevel = 3;
else if (asu >= 5) iconLevel = 2;
else iconLevel = 1;
So figuring up the dbm values from these, I went ahead and created a new asu scale which is adjusted -8dbm from "normal" since this seems to be the worst case of the mismatch between the phone firmware and what Android is reporting and applied that within the market app Real Signal to try and get an apples to apples comparison of signal bars between this phone and the old G1. Unfortunately, the degree if miscalibration means we can't set a negative ASU so we don't get any meaningful display on Real Signal until we hit the 3rd bar. In doing this if I go to a moderate overage area I am seeing the bars I would expect.
After my little drive with RF Signal Tracker its actually pretty clear that discrepancy is really more like -15dbm, which adjusting the figures should mean that this phone in reality gets slightly better reception than the old G1.
It seems we should be able to workaround this in a custom ROM by doing one of the following:
1. Modify getGsmSignalStrength() to add the -15dbm to the returned signal strength value(hackish).
2. Modify the vendor RIL to compensate for the -15dbm offset when on UMTS. (Probably the proper solution).
I'm not clear on whether the vendor RIL code gets posted to AOSP...
equid0x said:
How is your 3G reception on the Vibrant? I just purchased a Vibrant as a replacement for my aging and bluetooth handicapped G1 and I am disappointed with the 3G reception.
T-Mobile's coverage in my area is moderate, and the G1 has been able to hold on to a 3G signal in most locations. Typically, at home the G1 will hold on to 2-3 bars of 3G, and at work I am lucky to get 1 -- usually camps out on 2G with 4 or 5 bars.
The Vibrant pretty much always shows 0 bars of 3G while indoors, and may even flop back to 2G. It is fairly consistently on 2G in my home at 2 bars and at work I can only get 1 bar of 2G with this phone and spend the majority of the time with no signal at all.
I sat down and did some comparison between the Vibrant and the G1 and have found the following:
1. *#*#4636#*#* menu shows significantly worse signal levels on the Vibrant than on the G1, often times showing 0db and 0asu in the same location I am seeing -89db to -101db 3G on the G1.
2. The service menu on the Vibrant indicates a signal level which on 3G is fairly consistently 8db better than the one shown on the info menu. Interestingly, 2G signal levels as shown on the service menu seem fairly spot on with those shown from the info menu in Android.
3. The service menu 3G signal levels on the Vibrant seem consistent with those that I see on the G1 with a variation of perhaps only a couple of decibels.
That said, it seems interesting that battery usage on the Vibrant seems to indicate nearly 60% of its time with no service under cell standby when I get 0% in the same location with the G1. I am wondering if the time being recorded here is in fact the time spent with 0 bars being displayed even if the phone does, in fact, have a signal.
It is apparent that there is at least a software issue with the display here, as has been concluded in prior threads. However, ignoring the bar display I am wondering what others feel of the signal coverage with their Vibrant versus their old phone?
Does anyone have any experience with any of Samsung's other phone offerings? Do you think Samsung will post a radio update for this phone or possibly release one along with the GPS Fix/Froyo update in September?
I work in a position which requires me to be on-call a certain times during the year, and I can't really afford to have a phone that camps out at 60% no signal. I am really looking for reasons to keep this phone, as I like it otherwise, but practically, I need a phone that is going to receive phone calls. Any objective indications anyone can give that Samsung will continue to support this device may help sway my decision to keep it. My 14 days will be up on Thursday, so I need to make a final decision about keeping this phone before then.
Also, do any developers think that modifying the handling of the signal display in Android will cause a change in the amount of time the phone spends acquiring signal between 3G and 2G, or is this something that is purely handled within the radio firmware? If this is changeable, is this something that can be included in a future custom rom?
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I haven't done any detailed tests but I can state that in real world use, I am not happy with my Vibrant's reception. My G1 was very noticeably better at getting and holding 3G and Edge connections in the same locations where my new Vibrant won't.
Next to a tower on GSM(GSM/GPRS/EDGE) you should see -51dBm at the most with Android. W-CDMA is different because they really don't use -dBm to determine signal quality. They use power/noise.
Hey there,
I have had this issue since I got my hands on my Atrix but it still bugs me that the issue has never been fixed. Others also still have these issues, but I hope that with our talented devs, a fix can be found.
When connected to my home WiFi network, Internet works fine.
When I disable WiFi on my phone, Data won't reconnect and the H icon won't reappear.
When I walk away from my WiFi range, Data again doesn't reconnect like it should.
When using data, after a minute or two the Icon will start to show repeated attempts of uploading data when I click something, but will never download anything, causing my website or app to hang and eventually time out. This is oddly fixed by me going to my APN settings, editing Vodafone Australia (my internet apn) but not changing anything and then going settings > save. Causing data to disconnect and reconnect correctly. (most of the time)
This is very annoying. I can stay connected to data for a max of 5 minutes, and I know it's not the network as my friend with a GT540 Optimus can stay connected for hours at a time at the same place in the same conditions.
If any dev can help then it would be greatly appreciated (or if anyone knows of a fix), I am willing to help test anything created and also provide any logs that may help narrow down the issue (although I made need assistance in retrieving those logs as I've never tried) in addition, the mods used on my phone can be found below in my signature except the radio info which is 1.77.30P
You can contact me on this thread, PM or rarely in the freenode chat
Thanks for your time.
- DarkRyoushii
is there really nothing I can do to help? This issue alone is making me consider selling up and buying a SGS2 or Sensation, since I rely heavily on a constant data connection.
I guess my only option is to wait for CM7 and hope that fixes the issues I'm seeing..
Wifi connection at my house is a pain. It won't connect to it at all unless I go into the wifi settings menu and turn it on from there. I also have problems with it losing data connection when going into the Market or Navigation...which was pretty bad on my trip to Arkansas. I just thought it was my Atrix.
Personally, every Android phone I have owned has had glaring hardware/software issues EXCEPT my Inspire. I'm switching to Apple. *prepares to be flamed*
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Wifi connection at my house is a pain. It won't connect to it at all unless I go into the wifi settings menu and turn it on from there. I also have problems with it losing data connection when going into the Market or Navigation...which was pretty bad on my trip to Arkansas. I just thought it was my Atrix.
Personally, every Android phone I have owned has had glaring hardware/software issues EXCEPT my Inspire. I'm switching to Apple. *prepares to be flamed*
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LOL, i won't flame you. Android vs iOS is the same argument as Windows vs MacOS.
It's a "Features" vs "Stability" trade off. Apple maintains better stability by cutting down features, locking things down and limiting usability <- not that hard to accomplish. Try to work in Windows 7 under non-admin account and without installing useless crap. You will be surprised as to how smooth and nice everything functions.
But for me, Android / Windows feature list wins by a large margin. I've only had one frustratingly buggy Android phone and it was a Droid 2 Global. Again, not Android's fault but Motorola's for releasing crappy software.
Anyway, if stability is your main goal, then iPhone is the phone for you
You might want to also try a Nexus phone (perhaps Nexus 3?). I've heard they are supremely stable. (never actually owned one )
p.s. I've seen a quote by someone on here, that half the fun from owning an Android phone is modding it. And for me that's 100% true.
DarkRyoushii said:
is there really nothing I can do to help? This issue alone is making me consider selling up and buying a SGS2 or Sensation, since I rely heavily on a constant data connection.
I guess my only option is to wait for CM7 and hope that fixes the issues I'm seeing..
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Is that the right radio for your phone?
I thought the 30p was for AT&T only? Could this be your problem? You may need an international radio.
I know you have an unlocked AT&T, but I thought the radio was carrier specific, and not phone specific.
I could be wrong though. My wife tells me I am always wrong!
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Is that the right radio for your phone?
I thought the 30p was for AT&T only? Could this be your problem? You may need an international radio.
I know you have an unlocked AT&T, but I thought the radio was carrier specific, and not phone specific.
I could be wrong though. My wife tells me I am always wrong!
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hmm that seems like a good idea, but can I even flash an international radio on an AT&T handset? Also Vodafone Australia uses the exact same frequencies that AT&T use except AT&T 4G is considered Vodafone 850.
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hmm that seems like a good idea, but can I even flash an international radio on an AT&T handset? Also Vodafone Australia uses the exact same frequencies that AT&T use except AT&T 4G is considered Vodafone 850.
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Someone more technically minded with the Atrix will have to answer this. I thought the hardware was the same, so in theory flashing the wrong radio shouldn't do anything but give you data loss if it doesn't work. Then again, I am frequently wrong.
<edit> This might help: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1652182
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Someone more technically minded with the Atrix will have to answer this. I thought the hardware was the same, so in theory flashing the wrong radio shouldn't do anything but give you data loss if it doesn't work. Then again, I am frequently wrong.
<edit> This might help: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1652182
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epic find. that's my post on an old user handle which I haven't bothered to change yes, I won this phone but so far it's been quite bugged. I originally thought that I was given a prototype/dev model since they shipped it before it was released but now I know that's not the case.
I changed telco recently, to SFR (in France) and am getting very poor 4G reception at home. I haven't used the data connection at home before (because I have WiFi) so I didn't know what to expect.
The mast is only 2.8km away and LTE800, so the OPX should like it. The SIM card works well in my partner's Xiaomi, and in my old cheap and cheerful Alcatel POP4, and both get a strong and stable 4G signal. So why is my OPX struggling? I've been on to the support at SFR and they are going to monitor the line but said everything looks ok (APN details good, no local outages, etc) so it should work.
The only strange thing that might help in problem diagnosis is that I had to create the APN myself. The correct one was not displayed on the OPX - several other telco APNs were displayed (around 15 in total) but not the one I wanted, which I find weird. In the other 2 phones (Xiaomi & POP4), the correct 2 APNs are the only ones displayed.
Do you think there's something wrong with my OPX? Is it simply 'weaker' than the other 2 phones I have? Might it have a problem with that particular mast? (I get good 4G elsewhere) This one baffles me.
Nobody any thoughts on this?
It was suggested to me that perhaps the OPX designers compromised 4G reception (due to limited physical space) and upper band LTE is advantaged over LTE800. because the majority of 4G provision is in that upper band.
I have noticed this too!
Consider I live in a little country where 4G signal is low.
The same happens in Rome where 4G signal is high!
In fact, with Mi A2 lite I have no problems.
Probably the hardware is not very well designed, like you said above.
I don't like to resort to unhelpful, nontechnical language so consider this as venting - 4G reception sucks on the OnePlusX!
I'm seriously considering getting another phone (and I otherwise like my OPX) because its 4G reception is so weak. Sure, it works on occasions but I know other phones do better. Still, I guess it is now 'old' technology!
It looks allright with my OPX in France too, with Prixtel (Orange).
I have my main Sim card with Red SFR in my main phone, but with the OPX, the 4G DL and UP speed are good.
With Prixtell, I get this right now:
Hello,
I have a same problem with Bouygues, I have a better connection with sosh/orange...
the Bouygues/SFR antenna is at 3km
orange/Free is at 1Km
and traveling by car the reception is less cut with orange / sosh
I've come to the conclusion that it's the OPX hardware and/or design. Nothing we can do about it... other than get a different phone!
Fortunately for me, it's not a real problem - i's just a limitation, a bit frustrating and somewhat baffling. As I said, my cheap and ordinary Alacatel phone has a better 4G reception!
Are you by any chance using dual sim cards? I've noticed that my 4G reception is also worse ever since I started using 2 cards.
Also, reception appeared to be better on stock Oxygen OS than it is on LOS15.1 that I'm using right now.