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im going to be in australia for the next few months, and im looking into what phone im going to use there.
Its tough, because ive grown attached to having all the toys on my verizon xv6800, and dont want to go back to a standard phone.
Is it at all possible to get my titan to work on an Australian network? if not, can anyone point me in the direction of some information about other international phone options?
if anyone on here is from australia please let me know, i'd love to get in touch and get whatever information i can about plans and other info.
im open to any suggestions or other options for what i can do about a useful phone in australia.
Thanks alot
Entirely different radio and chip structures
well, you can always use your xv6800 just not to make calls. WiFi and GPS would work, you'd have no cell signal.
So, I suggest carrying 2 devices or searching online or picking up a GSM HTC smart phone. The Tilt/Kaiser Raphael (Touch Pro GSM) and the Blackstone / Touch HD and so many more cooler new devices will work in Australlia. However, some of those things are costly and you could natively use an older HTC phone.
You could buy an unlocked phone and just put a sim in there when you arrive.
The 2 main questions are what do you want to spend on a phone and will you rely on a data connection other than wifi?
I thought there was native CDMA coverage in australia? Or is it only new zealand? I would agree an ebayed tilt unlocked and a prepaid sim would probably be the best route.
I've read the phone dialer threads and all of that wonderful stuff, but what I'm trying to figure out is what capabilities, if any, the 3G Flyer (P510e) will have out of the box using a T-Mobile USA SIM card with a regular monthly phone and "unlimited" data plan on it.
Has anyone tried it? If so, what were you able to do? Access data? SIM card was rejected?
If I missed that thread, I apologize, but I can't seem to be able to find any info anywhere.
Thanks.
Tmobile Flyer?
sbrownla said:
I've read the phone dialer threads and all of that wonderful stuff, but what I'm trying to figure out is what capabilities, if any, the 3G Flyer (P510e) will have out of the box using a T-Mobile USA SIM card with a regular monthly phone and "unlimited" data plan on it.
Has anyone tried it? If so, what were you able to do? Access data? SIM card was rejected?
If I missed that thread, I apologize, but I can't seem to be able to find any info anywhere.
Thanks.
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Im also interested in this, has any one seen this or using.. with contract or non contract (phone)?
The HTC Flyer T-Mobile is truly one of a kind
This unique tablet is only 7″ wide, but it comes preloaded with Android 2.3,
HTC Sense that has been optimized for your tablet, and a 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor.
The HTC Flyer also features a 5 MP camera on the back and a front-facing camera for video chatting! This tablet also comes with HTC Scribe Technology, which is something brand new. You can purchase the HTC Scribe digital pen accessory for an additional fee, and be able to take notes that sync with a recording, highlight an important passage, doodle on a picture or even create your own picture! The HTC Flyer can give you a truly unique tablet experience.
HTC Flyer (T-Mobile)
•1.5GHz Qualcomm Processor
•Android 2.3 Operating System (Gingerbread)
•7″ Touchscreen that takes input from fingers & optional digital pen
•16 GB Internal Memory, Card Slot for up to 32 GB
•Rear 5MP Camera and 1.3MP Front Camera
•DLNA Capabilities
•Bluetooth 3.0 with A2DP
•SRS WOW HD™ surround sound delivers impressive audio
I just wanted to bump this thread because I am also looking for a answer to these questions.
I have this exact setup; T-Mobile USA SIM in a 3g Flyer. I have the voice disabled on the SIM, but for data purposes, the SIM connected to the network perfectly. Got 4g speeds in Chicago and the burbs. The phone app comes up and works, but because I disabled the voice on the SIM, the network gives me an appropriate error when I try to dial. When I go international, I plan to get an unlocked SIM w/data and a local number, and use the Flyer w/BT as my main phone. Will also prevent massive roaming charges and should allow my Google Voice to work as well.
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I have this exact setup; T-Mobile USA SIM in a 3g Flyer. I have the voice disabled on the SIM, but for data purposes, the SIM connected to the network perfectly. Got 4g speeds in Chicago and the burbs. The phone app comes up and works, but because I disabled the voice on the SIM, the network gives me an appropriate error when I try to dial. When I go international, I plan to get an unlocked SIM w/data and a local number, and use the Flyer w/BT as my main phone. Will also prevent massive roaming charges and should allow my Google Voice to work as well.
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Since you are getting 4g speeds, I'm assuming that you have the T-mobile USA branded flyer?
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Since you are getting 4g speeds, I'm assuming that you have the T-mobile USA branded flyer?
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That is incorrect; I got my flyer off eBay and it's from overseas (probably Singapore, as that's where the seller lives). I determined 4g access via Speedtests app. It might well be the same unit at what T-Mobile sells, but it's not T-Mob branded.
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That is incorrect; I got my flyer off eBay and it's from overseas (probably Singapore, as that's where the seller lives). I determined 4g access via Speedtests app. It might well be the same unit at what T-Mobile sells, but it's not T-Mob branded.
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Thanks for the clarification. I ordered a US tmobile branded flyer from ebay for $350 nd I was hoping to use it as a phone and for data. Since it's similar to the one you have, I'm hoping the roms are the same for it.
There's a process here to identify the RUU you'll need for the Flyer you'll receive:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18508220&postcount=2
Though one of the big uploader sources was shut down earlier today, don't remember which one but the RUU repository might have been there.
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There's a process here to identify the RUU you'll need for the Flyer you'll receive:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18508220&postcount=2
Though one of the big uploader sources was shut down earlier today, don't remember which one but the RUU repository might have been there.
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Thanks. I'm gonna try it out today and cross my fingers that I can get it to work.
Well dam I'm sorry for wasting your time. Despite winning a 4g flyer on ebay, a wifi flyer arrived in the mail! I have already tried contacting the seller on friday and he still hasn't responded to me. I guess I have to go down the arbritration route with ebay and in the end, I won't have a 4g flyer. Oh well, maybe it wasn't meant to be but thanks for all the info!
Well that sucks! I'm getting accustomed to having my Flyer with me, and the 3g/4g is a godsend when I'm in a hotel with lousy wifi coverage. I'm still looking for a good Honeycomb GSM phone call solution, but so far no decent hacks yet that work. If ICS ships within Q1, that may solve my problem.
Good luck with the arbitration...
Well I finally got in touch with the seller and I got my money back. There is a seller on amazon called "Samy's Savings" who is selling the 3g flyer for only $399. I placed an order and have my fingers crossed about getting the right one this time. I have a question for you though.....What data plan are you using with T-mobile? I was thinking about using the flyer as an phone since I already have data on my main phone. As I've read more on the forum, it seems that the best way to use the flyer as a phone is to either use a bluetooth headset or a wired headset. If this is the case, I will probably just use the flyer as data only. Also, have you tried using the flyer as a portable hotspot? I'm curious to know how it performs this function if at all. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions and have a great day!
Any updates with your Flyer 3g or tmo branded flyer 4g?
Just got a T-mobile branded HTC Flyer 3G, trying to pop in a T-mobile sim card from one of the lines on my family plan that has data but all it's doing when I try to open a webpage is load up the mytmobile website. Is this not possible? Do I have to get a seperate data plan that's tablet specific?
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Just got a T-mobile branded HTC Flyer 3G, trying to pop in a T-mobile sim card from one of the lines on my family plan that has data but all it's doing when I try to open a webpage is load up the mytmobile website. Is this not possible? Do I have to get a seperate data plan that's tablet specific?
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see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1917582
i believe we may have screwed ourselves by getting t mobile branded units. i cannot get data to work with mine,either with my phone sim. i did order another sim i plan to activate with the $3/day prepay and see if that works.
otherwise,yes,you need one of their "broadband" internet plans that does not have voice.i.e.,will not work in phones.
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see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1917582
i believe we may have screwed ourselves by getting t mobile branded units. i cannot get data to work with mine,either with my phone sim. i did order another sim i plan to activate with the $3/day prepay and see if that works.
otherwise,yes,you need one of their "broadband" internet plans that does not have voice.i.e.,will not work in phones.
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Bump - Has anyone figured this out yet or is there still no way to get the t-mobile htc flyer to work with voice,mms & data?
Has anyone tried using straight talk or at&t sim?
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Has anyone tried using straight talk or at&t sim?
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AT&T doesn't support voice and SMS services on tablets, I can tell you that much (although T-mobile does, in theory).
Sorry I can't answer your other questions. But this forum has become very quiet, so I figured even a partial answer is better than none at all!
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AT&T doesn't support voice and SMS services on tablets, I can tell you that much (although T-mobile does, in theory).
Sorry I can't answer your other questions. But this forum has become very quiet, so I figured even a partial answer is better than none at all!
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Family mobile (walmart) works
I've got a GT-I9000M right now and I've pre-ordered up the inter version. How do I know I'm not just wasting money?
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Unlocked GSM devices will work on any carrier that uses a SIM card.. i.e. T-Mobile, AT&T, etc. CDMA are the devices without SIM cards like Verizon and Sprint.
You just have to be aware of which carrier and what they use.
(I think I got that right ) maybe someone else can chime in..
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T-Mobile
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Careful, it'll work but most models are missing the 1700 band for HSPA+.
OP: Make sure it's GSM, then compare the bands.
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Careful, it'll work but most models are missing the 1700 band for HSPA+.
OP: Make sure it's GSM, then compare the bands.
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good point.. thank you
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It's 850Mhz as far as I know.
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Funny, you should ask; I was wondering about the same thing just yesterday:
What I learned, as far as T-Mobile (US) is concerned: it will work - if using a Tmo or AT&T SIM card - but only at 2G speeds, for now (probably until 2013).
That's my finding, and also the opinion of some other fine forum folks here.
Just wish it was wrong...
Well, according to the specs compared between my current I9000 and the SGS3, they have the same bands across the board. So I SHOULD be okay.
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Well, according to the specs compared between my current I9000 and the SGS3, they have the same bands across the board. So I SHOULD be okay.
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That would be awesome...if you were right!
What are your download speeds, and where do you live, bro?
4.5-5mbps down. 3mbps up.
I'm in Saskatchewan on Sasktel. It's a 3G/4G network that most devices on it are 850 and 1900 compatible.
Sasktel has boasted LTE in the fall, but only in the main cities, Regina and Saskatoon. Doesn't really affect me because in the city, at work or at home or friends/family, I'm on wifi.
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Thanks, man!
So there is hope that it actually may work OK... hmm.
Guess I'll wait some more, and until more folks chime in, as I would not want to gamble $800 (US ) on it... not yet.
Would sure love to buy an International/Unlocked S3 and run it on a prepaid T-Mobile SIM, but that may just not work the same way here in the US of A...
Well, expansys offers up to 15 days to return the device. So I'll know within the first day or so of receiving it if it's going to work or not. I'll have to go buy a MICRO SIM for it or not.
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Well, expansys offers up to 15 days to return the device. So I'll know within the first day or so of receiving it if it's going to work or not. I'll have to go buy a MICRO SIM for it or not.
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Dang...You're right! I totally forgot about that option
I9300, here I come
Thanks, MaesterB!
International version for AT&T
I have a question, I am new to GSM as I have been with Sprint for the past 13 years but just switched to AT&T for the purpose of being able to easily swap phones and use international versions. I got the HTC One X but I have to say that it is not "doing it" for me. I am used to the GS1 and then the GS2 and my plan WAS to get the GS3. I don't want to wait until AT&T gets the phone, plus its my understanding that the US versions are dual-core vs the quad.
With that in mind, I was thinking I could easily take my HTC which is only a day old and sell it on Ebay for 2-3 times what I paid for it, and use that money to get an international GS3. Before I do that though I have a few questions about using international versions.
1) With international phones (GS3 or any other model), would I still be able to use my AT&T apps such as Uverse Live TV, myAT&T, FamilyMap?
2) I realize that as long as the version of phone I get has the 850 and 1900Mhz bands, it will be compatible with AT&T for voice and 2G. What I want to know is would I be able to use AT&T's LTE or at the minimum the fake 4G (HSPA+). I don't want to spend $800 on a phone that is stuck on 3G.
3) Obviously I would not get OTA updates from AT&T but I assume that even without rooting I could go somewhere else (perhaps XDA) to get regular firmware updates?
4) Last, for those of you that have alot of exp buying swapping international phones, would you say that if for instance, I would not be able to use the phones LTE on AT&T, and that I was stuck on 3G, if I went ahead and purchased the phone anyway with the intent of using it until the AT&T version comes out, do you think at that time I would still get most of my purchase price back from the re-sale of the international version to use that to buy the AT&T one?
Thank You very much for your help.
I may not be "The Capacity" on the subject, but I have been tinkering with my phones over the last years, I do have some "smartphone cred" and also learned a lot myself on XDA (on the same subject) this weekend...
Let's see if other folks can confirm my answers:
1. According to my information, the US version of the S3 will indeed come with a dual S4 (Krait), compared to the International Exynos quad core CPU. Reason: the S4 can handle LTE, the quad core Exynos not yet;
2. If you buy a (prepaid) SIM card/plan from a 3rd party provider, or from AT&T or T-mo directly, you will be able to use the network you decide to go with. Since only Tmo and ATT have GSM networks, you can only use these with the International S3 and SIM card (Micro-SIM, that is). However, I am pretty sure you won't have a problem using network-specific apps either... since you are using the network/carrier already;
3. As far as the network speed (LTE <> 2G <> 3G) is concerned, I have heard different opinions. T-mo specifically states that you need the 1700MHz band, which the International S3 does not cover. However, they - and I believe also ATT - offer 3G on the 1900 MHz band, which the Inter S3 does pick up.
I have had a good exchange with a nice guy from Canada earlier today (look for MaesterB, the OP of this thread...), and he confirmed that his I9000 does pick up 3G speeds/5Mbps (in Canada). Since the I9000 covers the same bands as the I9300 (S3), I am convinced that it's gonna work to get 3G speeds.
I doubt that it's going to be HSPA+ anytime soon, but you'll definitely won't get LTE - as that depend on the 1700MHz spectrum, I think.
T-Mobile, however, is upgrading their network, and we are supposed to get HSPA+ on the 1900MHz band by the end of the year/next year here in the US... (??);
4. Don't know about the OTA updates... but who cares? You've gotta root your phone anyway to get the most from it. At least, that's my stance. And if you do root, you might as well get the OTAs from the XDA community. Who cares about 'straight-from-the-carrier' updates anyway..?
5. I'm not so sure if you're right with your resale philosophy, especially on 'getting most of your money back'. I wouldn't bank on it. Usually, and once the phone is on the market for some time, the level of desirability tanks, and so does the resale value...
6. Now that I have wised up some over the weekend myself, I'm going to get an unlocked S3, together with a prepaid SIM (probably from 'Straight Talk', 'Simple Mobile', or even directly from T-mo [the latter only with 2-yr contract... yuck!]). If I find out that I cannot get decent 3G speeds (area of 5 Mbps/down) on the phone already the same day I get it, I will return it - and the SIM card - right away and get my money back
Let's see what others can add to this...
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I have a question, I am new to GSM as I have been with Sprint for the past 13 years but just switched to AT&T for the purpose of being able to easily swap phones and use international versions. I got the HTC One X but I have to say that it is not "doing it" for me. I am used to the GS1 and then the GS2 and my plan WAS to get the GS3. I don't want to wait until AT&T gets the phone, plus its my understanding that the US versions are dual-core vs the quad.
With that in mind, I was thinking I could easily take my HTC which is only a day old and sell it on Ebay for 2-3 times what I paid for it, and use that money to get an international GS3. Before I do that though I have a few questions about using international versions.
1) With international phones (GS3 or any other model), would I still be able to use my AT&T apps such as Uverse Live TV, myAT&T, FamilyMap?
2) I realize that as long as the version of phone I get has the 850 and 1900Mhz bands, it will be compatible with AT&T for voice and 2G. What I want to know is would I be able to use AT&T's LTE or at the minimum the fake 4G (HSPA+). I don't want to spend $800 on a phone that is stuck on 3G.
3) Obviously I would not get OTA updates from AT&T but I assume that even without rooting I could go somewhere else (perhaps XDA) to get regular firmware updates?
4) Last, for those of you that have alot of exp buying swapping international phones, would you say that if for instance, I would not be able to use the phones LTE on AT&T, and that I was stuck on 3G, if I went ahead and purchased the phone anyway with the intent of using it until the AT&T version comes out, do you think at that time I would still get most of my purchase price back from the re-sale of the international version to use that to buy the AT&T one?
Thank You very much for your help.
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There is no possible way you will be able to "sell your one x for 2 or 3 times what you paid for it". You will NOT get LTE on the international version. HSPA+ is 3G and it will get that on AT&T, so yes you will be stuck on 3G. You will still get OTA updates on the phone regardless of what carrier you use it on. Depending on how long you wait you probably won't get most of your purchase price for the phone. If AT&T waits until August to release it you will probably get $100 less at least. Six months later the Galaxy nexus is $350 cheaper, and the One X already only fetches about $500-550.
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Sweet.
I was just doing some snooping on my providers website.
EVERYTHING they're doing is in the 850 and 1900 bands. Even the "4G", which still isn't anything to write home about.
Now, as long as I don't suffer from my modem problems that I had after I flashed my SGS the first time (ie. lose carrier once I'm out of my home zone) I'm REALLY set.
(pre-)Ordered my S3 yesterday...
Yeah! Can't wait for the baby to arrive next week!
Also got me a prepaid SIM (AT&T) with Straight Talk, and - just in case - a SIM cutter. Looks like I'm ready to roll!
Let's see how this all shakes out... but it better be good!
I read in another thread here on XDA ("Samsung Galaxy S III... No LTE for $800?!") that the phone will "perform sexual favors and make a sandwich afterward." -- Awesome!!!
Unbelievable, how Samsung pulls these things off again and again and again... LOL
Well, I had to double-check to make sure I asked for 1-3 day shipping on mine. Still waiting for a reply back!
Even if Expansys gets it next week, I won't be seeing it until the week of June 4th OR later.
And it's being shipped to the office where I work. Double-bonus. So as soon I get it, my lunch break will be go down to the kiosk of my provider, pay $10 for the microsim, get it programmed, and voila...done and done.
I have a UK unlocked HTC titan, I get horrible reception in my house and AT&T has given me a 3g Microcell to fix it, well the Microcell has its own problems, but regardless they say that my phone wont work with the Microcell anyways because its only getting E (edge) so they convinced me to get a new phone (Nokia Lumia 900) which i did like, but ultimatly took back because I love my titan so much, they no longer offer the titan 1 and would only give it to me for $199 through their site (which is BS because the titan 2 is $199) I know i should just et the titan 2 but i dislike the curved glass, I like the look and feel of my Titan 1, I would have already dropped AT&T and went to verizon but they have no WP7 phonesand I want to keep my titan...
So I'm asking:
Is there a Rom that I could flash to my titan (Its an Unlocked UK version (British lady voice and all) and AppHub Unlocked) that would set it to the AT&T rom and possibley get better signal as well as 3G capabilities?
I would like to flashmy rom and use the one from AT&T to recieve 3G and use the Microcell as well as overall better coverage.
Im somewhat of a noob to the flashing and dont know if thats how it works or what... Can someone please help?
Thanks.
Looking to pick up the HTC Amaze from Mobilicty for $$300 and I have a quick question regarding the 3G capabilities. Do the ROMs or any mods from XDA here support the standard 3G networks, and not the AWS ones? I'm considering picking one up and then SIM unlocking it for use on the standard Rogers/Fido/Telus/Bell network, assuming it can be SIM unlocked.
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Looking to pick up the HTC Amaze from Mobilicty for $$300 and I have a quick question regarding the 3G capabilities. Do the ROMs or any mods from XDA here support the standard 3G networks, and not the AWS ones? I'm considering picking one up and then SIM unlocking it for use on the standard Rogers/Fido/Telus/Bell network, assuming it can be SIM unlocked.
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Sim unlock for free via s-off, I dunno about the 3G factor, though I do think it has them.
Really? Because on my Samsung Galaxy S, only specific modems have specific network bands, so I was thinking similar things would apply to the HTC Amaze. I do see that you're using a Telus ROM, so there's probably a Telus radio....
All Amazes no matter what carrier support the same bands out of the box, no radio flashing needed. You'll be able to use the Amaze on telus/rodgers, no idea about fido/bell youll have to see if the network uses the 800/950/1900/2100 3g bands
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All Amazes no matter what carrier support the same bands out of the box, no radio flashing needed. You'll be able to use the Amaze on telus/rodgers, no idea about fido/bell youll have to see if the network uses the 800/950/1900/2100 3g bands
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What this guy said, since I used practically every different providers stock Rom with the same service reception.
Sent from an Amaaaaaazing place :-D
Too bad I couldn't find an Amaze in stock... Apparently it was all sold out yesterday
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Too bad I couldn't find an Amaze in stock... Apparently it was all sold out yesterday
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ebay my friend used ones are going for 250-300
new ones like 400 still mine was $600 when it 1st came out i bought mine a week early b4 it came out thank god for being a dealer
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ebay my friend used ones are going for 250-300
new ones like 400 still mine was $600 when it 1st came out i bought mine a week early b4 it came out thank god for being a dealer
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Got mine for 250 locally, changed the back cover and applied a screen protector, it's practically new now, normally goes for 350 in the condition I got it.
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