I bought a new SX56 from an ebayer and it appears to be unlocked etc. I put my current active Cingular SIM card in it but I get a no signal message after it searches for signal. The device came with xda-developers.com ROM version v1.2 on it. I have tried to switch to all of the different Bandswitch settings with no success. HELP PLEASE!!! ANYONE??!!
What's your RSU version ... you can get it from device info or displayed while booting.
PS: it's very risky to use the GSM menu this way. Check with your operator and select the right band once and for ever.
No signal on SX56
My device info is:
ROM ver: 3.17.03 ENG
ROM date? 05/15/03
Radio Version 6.12
Protocol version 324e4
Seems you have a bit old ROM and RSU ... you better check with one in your area but I see here some people have either TMO 4.01.00 + 6.24 or AT&T 30.09 + A30 and they are on Cingular. The right bandwidth setting is the key factor.
Thanks for your reply. I don't know how to do the updates you refer to. I hate to return the thing because I got a good deal on it, but if I can't use it on Cingular I don't know what else to do with it? Any help would be appreciated.
Doc
You can get the complete TMO update (ROM + RSU) here ftp://tmobile:[email protected]:21
Good luck ...
Hi,
I tried to link and get an error trying to connect. Could you please send it again :?: ? Do you think updating to windows 2003 would be if help? I can download it for free from the Siemens website. I just don't want it to lock the phone or cause any damage!
Doc
The official update from AT&T should be OK ... however, you device is better to be PW10B type (check the rear sticker) these upgrades were made for USA use.
Also, if you are in the Cingular 850Mhz only zone, you wont be able to catch signal, cause none of the RSU's will support this band.... (quite unfortunate for all of us in North America)
Thanks for your reply. I'm not sure of the Band mHz on Cingular. I will try to find out from them if I can. Guess I'm the die hard type but I still want it to work or I'll have to abandon it. Any other help will be appreciated
Doc
Mavrik said:
Also, if you are in the Cingular 850Mhz only zone, you wont be able to catch signal, cause none of the RSU's will support this band.... (quite unfortunate for all of us in North America)
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Quite unfortunate indeed. What are the chances that AT&T will release one in the future to make it compatible with Cingular 850 networks after the merger?
I still think there is a way to tune a digital device to another frequency. AT&T has a deal on these for $99.99 and it was just bought out by Cingular. It would be logical that Siemens has something in the mix an upgraded model, different freq. etc.
Doc
doc said:
I still think there is a way to tune a digital device to another frequency. AT&T has a deal on these for $99.99 and it was just bought out by Cingular. It would be logical that Siemens has something in the mix an upgraded model, different freq. etc.
Doc
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That's what I am thinking. I am a Cingular employee so I bought one to put on my ERP but I can only use AT&T and T-Mobile signals at the moment.
I am 100% certain that it is possible to get the device to work on 850, more than likely just restricted in the radio stack.
You are lucky!! I have six phones through Cingular and they have been trying to get me a Treo 600 since December!! I'd prefer a windows based device hence my reason for buying a SX56. I had no way to know it would not work on Cingular. All the ads I see for unlocked phones claim they will work on any GSM carrier with an active SIM card.
Obviously it doesn't work hence my involvement in all of this!!
Doc
It is possible that somebody has got cingular sim to work on 850, if they were in close proximity to a mast maybe the 50mhz wouldnt mean too much and a signal could be acquired, but you would still be using a phone detuned by 50mhz which isnt an ideal situation.
I'm not an expert but 50mhz is a pretty big difference in frequency. The splash over from 800 to 850 or 900 to 850 is pretty big. It probably would not work very well even a few feet away from the site where it functions. Still there has to be a way to to tune one of these to 850mhz.
Doc
re: the 850 tunning question, As far as I understand this is a hardware aspect of the radio, thus you can not tune to this freq. This is also the reason AT&T did not brand the XDA II, because HTC would not impliment 850 into the device. You are more likely to see a HP6300 or MPx in this department as they are both quadband phones (meaning 850 implimentation) the real question is, will either of these phones be EDGE enabled? My quess is the HP will but the MPx will not. Reasoning: Rumor was HP was using TI Ref design WANDA. TI make EDGE hardware for phones. TI processor may be in the HP phone. The bottom line is you will need new hardware for 850 or EDGE. Sorry for the bad news, I too would love to be proved wrong. Guess I'll have to pony the dough for one of these two new devices. I really loved my HTC device but if they aren't going to keep up...I have no choice. I still feel the XDA will be a better over all device, but without 850 & EDGE implimentation it's going to fall way short. It's nice to own a Corvet, but if a Honda goes faster...why buy the brand name.
re: the 850 tunning question, As far as I understand this is a hardware aspect of the radio, thus you can not tune to this freq. This is also the reason AT&T did not brand the XDA II, because HTC would not impliment 850 into the device. You are more likely to see a HP6300 or MPx in this department as they are both quadband phones (meaning 850 implimentation) the real question is, will either of these phones be EDGE enabled? My quess is the HP will but the MPx will not. Reasoning: Rumor was HP was using TI Ref design WANDA. TI make EDGE hardware for phones. TI processor may be in the HP phone. The bottom line is you will need new hardware for 850 or EDGE. Sorry for the bad news, I too would love to be proved wrong. Guess I'll have to pony the dough for one of these two new devices. I really loved my HTC device but if they aren't going to keep up...I have no choice. I still feel the XDA will be a better over all device, but without 850 & EDGE implimentation it's going to fall way short. It's nice to own a Corvet, but if a Honda goes faster...why buy the brand name.
I'm getting depressed. I bought this thing thinking it would just be a matter of sticking the SIM card in and off we go!! I've emailed 15 times, joined three different PDA/Phone forums and learned more about these damn things than I ever intended. Now I have a slow PDA, a car charger, extra case, extra sync/usb cable and it won't work on Cingular which I can't change!!!
HELP!!!
Wallaby from T-Mobile works fine with Cingular
Excuse me if I'm way off base, but I just moved over to Cingular from T-Mobile using an unlocked Wallaby, and it works fine. The only thing I haven't been able to do is to make a GPRS connection.
im going to be in australia for the next few months, and im looking into what phone im going to use there.
Its tough, because ive grown attached to having all the toys on my verizon xv6800, and dont want to go back to a standard phone.
Is it at all possible to get my titan to work on an Australian network? if not, can anyone point me in the direction of some information about other international phone options?
if anyone on here is from australia please let me know, i'd love to get in touch and get whatever information i can about plans and other info.
im open to any suggestions or other options for what i can do about a useful phone in australia.
Thanks alot
Entirely different radio and chip structures
well, you can always use your xv6800 just not to make calls. WiFi and GPS would work, you'd have no cell signal.
So, I suggest carrying 2 devices or searching online or picking up a GSM HTC smart phone. The Tilt/Kaiser Raphael (Touch Pro GSM) and the Blackstone / Touch HD and so many more cooler new devices will work in Australlia. However, some of those things are costly and you could natively use an older HTC phone.
You could buy an unlocked phone and just put a sim in there when you arrive.
The 2 main questions are what do you want to spend on a phone and will you rely on a data connection other than wifi?
I thought there was native CDMA coverage in australia? Or is it only new zealand? I would agree an ebayed tilt unlocked and a prepaid sim would probably be the best route.
So I've been using a Samsung flip phone for the past two years and finally decided, with the end of my contract, that it's time to buy a new, bamf phone.
I really like the HTC Hero, and I know it can be unlocked to work on Tmobile, but would I totally loose out on 3g functionality if I did this? And if so, would it only last til the phone is released state side?
Also is the Hero worth buying if it can't connect to 3g networks? Should I just get the Sapphire?
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So I've been using a Samsung flip phone for the past two years and finally decided, with the end of my contract, that it's time to buy a new, bamf phone.
I really like the HTC Hero, and I know it can be unlocked to work on Tmobile, but would I totally loose out on 3g functionality if I did this? And if so, would it only last til the phone is released state side?
Also is the Hero worth buying if it can't connect to 3g networks? Should I just get the Sapphire?
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If you live in the USA then T-Mobile will only give you 2g on the Hero.
Sprint http://phandroid.com/2009/09/03/official-sprint-announces-htc-hero/ and http://phandroid.com/2009/09/03/sprint-htc-hero-oct-11-179-no-chin/ have confirmed they will carry the Hero (but not as we Europeans know it) on their 3g network.
So what would you all consider a better phone, a Sapphire on 3g or a Hero on 2g?
Picked up a Radar on release day. Utterly perfect as a mid-range device for someone who perhaps just needs a nice phone without all the premium goodies. Beautifully made, feels great in the hand.
Another interesting tidbit: although none of the on-line specs ever mentioned it, the box says that it supports UMTS 1900 (in addition to AWS and 2100). That would make it the first MO-sourced smartphone I've ever encountered that would work on either AT&T or T-MO's 3G network.
I am trying to get unlock codes from TMO and will try it out on AT&T if I am successful. Very curious to know if this will really work.
Any news regarding AT&T support?
I don't have the unlock code yet.
Yes, please post what you find.
I want to get this for my wife but we can't leave at&t.
About an hour ago I requested the unlock codes for the 3 phones I bought for me and my family. Let's see if I get them this time.
I got the unlock codes from TMO and will post back later today once I've had a chance to try an AT&T SIM in my phone.
Discussion about phone on AT&T continued here.
I have a UK unlocked HTC titan, I get horrible reception in my house and AT&T has given me a 3g Microcell to fix it, well the Microcell has its own problems, but regardless they say that my phone wont work with the Microcell anyways because its only getting E (edge) so they convinced me to get a new phone (Nokia Lumia 900) which i did like, but ultimatly took back because I love my titan so much, they no longer offer the titan 1 and would only give it to me for $199 through their site (which is BS because the titan 2 is $199) I know i should just et the titan 2 but i dislike the curved glass, I like the look and feel of my Titan 1, I would have already dropped AT&T and went to verizon but they have no WP7 phonesand I want to keep my titan...
So I'm asking:
Is there a Rom that I could flash to my titan (Its an Unlocked UK version (British lady voice and all) and AppHub Unlocked) that would set it to the AT&T rom and possibley get better signal as well as 3G capabilities?
I would like to flashmy rom and use the one from AT&T to recieve 3G and use the Microcell as well as overall better coverage.
Im somewhat of a noob to the flashing and dont know if thats how it works or what... Can someone please help?
Thanks.
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So I'm asking:
Is there a Rom that I could flash to my titan (Its an Unlocked UK version (British lady voice and all) and AppHub Unlocked) that would set it to the AT&T rom and possibley get better signal as well as 3G capabilities?
I would like to flashmy rom and use the one from AT&T to recieve 3G and use the Microcell as well as overall better coverage.
Im somewhat of a noob to the flashing and dont know if thats how it works or what... Can someone please help?
Thanks.
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What a situation you got yourself into I reckon there will be plenty out there who would like to swap their att branded htc titan to your european unlocked titan Anyway back to your question..., yes you can flash your phone with stock cingular (att) rom but it is not a straight forward flashing. You will need to use "goldcard method" to flash a stock cingular (att) rom to your phone. I advise you to read this related threads on goldcard method:
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24809318#post24809318
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371073&highlight=goldcard+spl+downgrade+method
You need to download the Cingular (A&T) rom 1.10 from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1334468
You just need to rename the nbh file into ETERIMG.nbh to use in your goldcard.
In summary, to flash stock AT&T rom you need to use the goldcard method to flash the Cingular ROM 1.10 to your european unlocked htc titan.
Hope this help.
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Thanks a lot! I appreciate the response! Now im faced with 2 options ... sell/trade the phone (I LOVE THE TITAN!) or Get the materials and try out the Rom to see if it fixes my problem. I guess we'll see.
SO YOU ARE TELLING ME THEORETICALLY FLASHING THE STOCK AT&T TITAN ROM TO MY UNLOCKED VERSION WILL FIX THE NO 3G PROBLEM? IS THERE ANY DRAWBACKS OR ANYTHING WITH THIS FLASH, DO I NEED TO MESS WITH THE RADIO? ANY AND ALL INFORMATION IS DEF APPRECIATED!
IF IM GONNA DO THIS, I WANNA KNOW WHAT IM IN FOR AND WHAT IM GONNA GET, AT THIS POINT AT&T GAVE M A MICROCELL TO FIX MY SERVICE PROBLEM (BUT NO 3G ON MY TITAN) AND THEY ALSO GAVE ME AN EARLY UPGRADE OPTION, AND WITH ALREADY HAVING THE NOKIA LUMIA 900 AND HAVING IT FAIL IN COMPARISON TO THE TITAN, SCREEN SIZE WISE (OTHERWISE BEATIFUL PHONE), AND THE TITAN TWO UGLY WITH THE CURVED GLASS AND BUBBLE BACK, LOOKS LIKE IM GONNA HAVE TO TRY ANDROID AGAIN (UGLY UI, BUT MORE APPS)
Thanks again.
There is no guarantee here unfortunately:] and the gold card method is a hit and miss process to say the least. You probably know that by now, as there are few threads running on this forum about this topic. The stock Cingular rom 1.10 has its own bugs (lots of them) you can find more about this by reading opening threads in the general section (Q&A). Your choice Goodluck.
Sent from my Titan using XDA Windows Phone 7 App