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i have all the right roms installed and im sure all i need now is the appropriate software....... i live in canada......and i want to use the cell towers instead of satellites.
thx all
phew i just spent all day trying to figure this stuff out and i still am in the dark......ack!
Google Maps with My Location
Microsoft Live Search
windows maps dont work for canada and does google maps need a constant internet connection? telus wont give my htc unlimited net service at all.
dieseldennis said:
windows maps dont work for canada and does google maps need a constant internet connection? telus wont give my htc unlimited net service at all.
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I believe it does. Because if you start the program with out any data connection it will exit out. And if you are trying to go on a trip and need directions or are trying to follow the map it wont update unless you have a constant data connection.
dieseldennis said:
windows maps dont work for canada and does google maps need a constant internet connection? telus wont give my htc unlimited net service at all.
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Yes it does need internet connection , it downloads maps as you go!
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Google Maps with My Location
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I've never been able to pull a location with GMM on the Mogul using just towers
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I've never been able to pull a location with GMM on the Mogul using just towers
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Maybe in canada it doesnt work...I tried in NYC and it worked. Not really accurate but good for emergencies i guess
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I've never been able to pull a location with GMM on the Mogul using just towers
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Are you using a Custom ROM?
Because I hear that some Custom ROMS have the AGPS feauture disabled. This is what is used for cellular traingulation ( using the towers )
i think i figures it out for now guys....... i didnt know that i had satellite gps on my phone already . i loaded all the appropriate roms from this awsome site!....... so now im just looking fo an easily hackable gps navigator i think ill try tomtom for now but i gotta figure out how to load and register the iso to my pda........ if i like it ill definetly buy it but i want to sure and safe this stuff isnt cheap
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I've never been able to pull a location with GMM on the Mogul using just towers
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It's my understanding that Sprint doesn't use towers to locate position, so you can't use the Mogul to report your location with towers...you would have to use the GPS.
TomTom is working great
Works great with or without cell signal and easy to install and fix.
Is there any GPS program that doesnt require a data connection? Some that have a local Maps database. I have GPS receiver but i dont have a data plan so can't use google maps. Any suggestion? PathAway is one of them but that thing so complicated to use..and expensive
alamask said:
Is there any GPS program that doesnt require a data connection? Some that have a local Maps database. I have GPS receiver but i dont have a data plan so can't use google maps. Any suggestion? PathAway is one of them but that thing so complicated to use..and expensive
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Yes there is. I personally use Tom Tom Navigator 6. This is ONLY the GPS software. I believe the other versions of Tom Tom have the software and a bluetooth GPS receiver in the package ( more expensive ).
You can also use the GARMIN GPS software. I believe it is a little bit cheaper on the price then Tom Tom, but It might lack some features.
I'm sure there are others but those two I believe these are the most known / used.
You can also use the GARMIN GPS software. I believe it is a little bit cheaper on the price then Tom Tom, but It might lack some features.
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Actually I find the Garmin has more features than the Tom Tom.
and the latest version of XT has a much better addressing system as far as finding addresses.
I live in a Rural area where roads sometimes have two names because two routes join together....
Tom Tom doesn't recognize one or the other route and will sometimes only take the lesser known route as input instead of the major roadways designation.
Both are great navigators though...I just prefer the garmin.
do you guys know how I set up the GPS after the ROM upgrades? I have tomtom, but it doesn't recognize the internal gps
It was my understanding the location from cell towers doesn't work on 6800 in google maps???
Am I reading this thread correctly that there IS a way to get this to work?
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It was my understanding the location from cell towers doesn't work on 6800 in google maps???
Am I reading this thread correctly that there IS a way to get this to work?
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The original version of google maps doesnt use cellular triangulation (towers / agps) the NEW Beta Version does. Also if you don't like Google Maps you can also use Microsoft Live Search.
To get the New Google Maps Beta w/ Cellular Triangulation go here:
http://www.google.com/gmm/mylocation.html?hl=en
If you want Microsoft Live Search Mobile visit:
ls.windowsmobile.com on your cell phone via your designated browser.
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do you guys know how I set up the GPS after the ROM upgrades? I have tomtom, but it doesn't recognize the internal gps
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Enable Location On instead of 911 on your cell phone first.
You can go to the dialer and press the menu button -- options -- services -- location setting and press GET SETTINGS and enable Location on.
The go to start -- settings -- system -- external gps : make sure that on the programs tap that COM4 is set on the GPS program port menu. On the hardware tab chose NONE as the GPS hardware port menu and for the baud rate choose 4800. Finally on the access tap check the Manage GPS automatically box
All that is to set the GPS to work on GPS software (tom tom, google maps, microsoft live search ......)
Now to the Tom Tom part.
Once Tom Tom is installed and still doesn't get a GPS signal you must then configure the GPS to work with Tom Tom.
Initialize Tom Tom. Go to the Change Preferences Tab ( menu tab that looks like a wrench)
Look for the Show GPS Status Icon ( it is a Satellite ) then click on it.
Once in click on the Configure Tab on the lower left side.
Select the Other NMEA GPS Receiver when you try to select a GPS Receiver : then once selected you will be prompted to change the baud rate ( make sure it is 4800 ). Once you click done you will have a menu stating " GPS is Connected to" and you must choose COM 4:
Now your done.
The bad thing about the GPS in our TITANS / 6800's is that it is not always running and it needs to warm up / initialize first in order to get a signal in any application.
You can either wait until it picks up a signal or download a program to help you initiate the GPS receiver when you want to use Tom Tom.
I'll provide you a program that helps initialize the GPS and then launches Tom Tom for you. ( This saves time trying to warm up the GPS and then looking for the Tom Tom app and running it)
Dont get irritated if Tom Tom doesn't recognize the GPS right away it might take less then a minute when you are in your car or are in sight of the clear sky. Tom Tom doesn't seem to work well in doors.
I hope this helped you out abit.
If you rather choose another GPS warm up / initializing software you can research on your own. Im just supplying you with something that works only with Tom Tom.
Once you download the software extracted in your computer....and copy the software to your device not the SD card - \windows\start menu\programs
This is not a CAB it is an executable.
dieseldennis said:
i have all the right roms installed and im sure all i need now is the appropriate software....... i live in canada......and i want to use the cell towers instead of satellites.
thx all
phew i just spent all day trying to figure this stuff out and i still am in the dark......ack!
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So if I read this right, you want to use a GPS-like function that doesn't use GPS satellites. You want to use cell towers to do triangulation. Navizon makes a product:
http://www.navizon.com/navizon_v-gps.asp
It can provide GPS data output but it does triangulation via cell towers and wifi access points.
Kevan
Ok I'm reading to pick up one of these bluetooth GPS receivers and get my nook performing GPS duties. What software package is best? As I understand it, there is also some other little piece of software that I need to get the bluetooth info to port into the GPS software. Any ideas?
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Ok I'm reading to pick up one of these bluetooth GPS receivers and get my nook performing GPS duties. What software package is best? As I understand it, there is also some other little piece of software that I need to get the bluetooth info to port into the GPS software. Any ideas?
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I have had success running CM7 on internal memory with CoPilot Live USA ($4.99 from the market) in conjunction with the free Bluetooth GPS Provider app also in the market. You can't beat that--$4.99 for a 7 inch GPS. I've taken it on a 500 mile trip and it performed perfectly. Stay away from Sygic Aura--it doesn't allow for mock locations.
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I have had success running CM7 on internal memory with CoPilot Live USA ($4.99 from the market) in conjunction with the free Bluetooth GPS Provider app also in the market. You can't beat that--$4.99 for a 7 inch GPS. I've taken it on a 500 mile trip and it performed perfectly. Stay away from Sygic Aura--it doesn't allow for mock locations.
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Does CoPilot Live require a data connection, or can one download all the mapsets to SD and run completely offline?
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Does CoPilot Live require a data connection, or can one download all the mapsets to SD and run completely offline?
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Once you download the maps, you're done. No data connection needed. However, I'm not sure how one would pull GPS location from a device with no GPS onboard?
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Once you download the maps, you're done. No data connection needed. However, I'm not sure how one would pull GPS location from a device with no GPS onboard?
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Read original post, he bought an external GPS blue tooth unit which he connects to the nook.
I just use my phone hooked up through an audio jack. I'm lucky enough to live where I don't have to worry about not having a data signal.
Disregard my previous lack of common sense. I can't see the forest for the trees sometimes. I need to look into this Bluetooth adapter. Sounds convenient.
I also have heard there is an additional bit of software needed for this to work as eluded to in my first post. Anyone know what I'm referring to? I will have to check out that CoPilot software.
You need the Bluetooth gps provider app. It's free in the market.
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I have had success running CM7 on internal memory with CoPilot Live USA ($4.99 from the market) in conjunction with the free Bluetooth GPS Provider app also in the market. You can't beat that--$4.99 for a 7 inch GPS. I've taken it on a 500 mile trip and it performed perfectly. Stay away from Sygic Aura--it doesn't allow for mock locations.
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I was just about to buy this app, but the reviews don't look great. You've had good success? Will Google maps store maps? I thought they had implemented an "offline" feature. Are there any other apps that store maps so you don't need to use data?
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Copilot is usable - but it does have a bug that requires a wifi connection when you first enter a street address and it does not call out street names while navigating
Google maps works but u need a wifi connection to download maps while driving
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I was just about to buy this app, but the reviews don't look great. You've had good success? Will Google maps store maps? I thought they had implemented an "offline" feature. Are there any other apps that store maps so you don't need to use data?
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Copilot is usable - but it does have a bug that requires a wifi connection when you first enter a street address and it does not call out street names while navigating
Google maps works but u need a wifi connection to download maps while driving
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I haven't experienced the bug of having to have the wifi connection on when entering a street address. And as far as not calling out the street names, it does tell you when to take a right (take the next turn right in .3 miles) or left or exit, etc. The street name is displayed on the Nook, so it is quite sufficient. If it called out even the street names what need for the beautiful Nook display?
I use Google Navigator on my phone, same would apply to the NC of course.. Online maps are great until you need to route somewhere when you have no signal.
A few weeks ago I routed to a back-country location, got there no problem. Leaving however, I had no idea how to get back out as I had no cell signal. Had to bust out the old TomTom One from in the trunk.
I haven't looked into CoPilot, but I've heard various bad things about it.. Price is right though, if it's usable. On WM6 I paid lots of money for TomTom + NA maps.
OK, so I bought the CoPilot app, but it just tells my device IMEI number is invalid and won't let me proceed. Any ideas how to get around this?
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OK, so I bought the CoPilot app, but it just tells my device IMEI number is invalid and won't let me proceed. Any ideas how to get around this?
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Well that sucks.. Piracy measure I suspect, and our IMEI is of course fake since it's not a phone.
I've seen others claiming that it's working for them, so I'm not ready to give up just yet.
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I've seen others claiming that it's working for them, so I'm not ready to give up just yet.
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Calla969,
What were the installation steps you took after you purchased CoPilot live? Was it the CoPilot Live USA version?
What ROM are you using?
Mine installed fine and is working as we speak. I originally installed CoPilot USA on the SD card with experimental bluetooth rom. Then when I switched over to CM7 on internal memory I restored app and data through titanium backup. I'm currently running it on CM7 tablet tweaks RC1. I'm using a Garmin 10x receiver, bluetooth, mock locations, and satellites enabled, GPS bluetooth provider apk.
*** Edit: Found the problem. It is the most recent update from the market. I got the same IMEI number error. Just restoring now with the previous version (8.2.504). Yes, that's it. Works with this version. Maybe there is a way you can get this version of the apk? PM? ***
Pm sent.
I'm running the latest tablet tweaks version of cm7.
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Bump. Any suggestions for the best bluetooth receiver to use with the NC? Maybe its time for a NC GPS sub-forum. Just a suggestion?
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Bump. Any suggestions for the best bluetooth receiver to use with the NC? Maybe its time for a NC GPS sub-forum. Just a suggestion?
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I doubt any of them would differ... I get the same range on both of mine on phone and NC.... Both of them mere inches on the NC, where I get 3-4 feet using my phone.
Personally I like my two GPSes for different reasons... My Holux 236 for its accuracy and robustness. And my Columbus V900 for its built-in datalogger, albiet it being about 4 meters consistently off from its real location and -80 meters in actual Altitude.
CoPilot USA
I sent a trouble ticket into CoPilot USA when I got the IMEI error. They dropped a new version about 3 days ago that fixed that problem. New version is 8.2.0.590. When I can get Bluetooth talking to my GPS receiver, CoPilot USA does work. (I strongly prefer TomTom but the price is right for CoPilot USA!) My ROM PhireMod 6.0
BLUETOOTH QUESTION: What Bluetooth application do you use? I’ve tried BlueGPS for Android (1.2.1) -Error msg “Too amy connection problems”; Bluetooth GPS (Googoo Android V 0.5.5p1) -Error msg “Service Discovery Failed”; and Bluetooth GPS Provider (Works most of the time – but seems unpredictable). I’m interfacing a Bluetooth GPS receiver.
So, is "Bluetooth GPS Receiver" from Market the best Bluetooth App?
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Hi folks! I have a question. My friend has htc hero with latest official rom (dunno what it is). He is a traveler and wants gps to work without using data connection, bcs it's extremely expensive on his operator. He said, that in android 1.6 there was pure gps and it needn't to use data connection to receive location. If he uses any app like gps status or nav app without data connection, gps doesn't receive location. I have samsung device and there is an app, called AngryGPS, there i can change everything about gps settings, including SUPL server and how gps will work (MSBASED or STANDALONE). How can i change settings on his hero? Maybe by porting this app on hero? Rooting is not a problem, i can make it, if it's necessary.
added: if i turn off receiving location from wireless networks in android settings, it not helps
P.S.: Sorry for my poor english
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Hi folks! I have a question. My friend has htc hero with latest official rom (dunno what it is). He is a traveler and wants gps to work without using data connection, bcs it's extremely expensive on his operator. He said, that in android 1.6 there was pure gps and it needn't to use data connection to receive location. If he uses any app like gps status or nav app without data connection, gps doesn't receive location. I have samsung device and there is an app, called AngryGPS, there i can change everything about gps settings, including SUPL server and how gps will work (MSBASED or STANDALONE). How can i change settings on his hero? Maybe by porting this app on hero? Rooting is not a problem, i can make it, if it's necessary.
added: if i turn off receiving location from wireless networks in android settings, it not helps
P.S.: Sorry for my poor english
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Use iGo for android...it's easy to use and only gps is req...no data connection, i used it a time ago and was very pleased with it...the menu is a little laggy put don't worry because it works well on the phone, without having any problems.
Keep me updated if you got the problem solved
Stefan
he said, that he uses Maverick and don't want to change it, he wants to change system settings to use gps in standalone mode
zy-el said:
he said, that he uses Maverick and don't want to change it, he wants to change system settings to use gps in standalone mode
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well he has to close the data connection and that's all
Stefan
zy-el said:
... If he uses any app like gps status or nav app without data connection, gps doesn't receive location....
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that's the problem
zy-el said:
that's the problem
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there are data & gps apps...so if you don't use a data connection you can't download content...that's why i recommend iGO for android
Stefan
he needs not to download content, he needs to connect to GPS without enabling data connection. Anyway, problem solved by installing patched version of angrygps and editing operation mode of gps module
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he needs not to download content, he needs to connect to GPS without enabling data connection. Anyway, problem solved by installing patched version of angrygps and editing operation mode of gps module
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that why i recommended iGO, it uses the maps preloaded on the sd card...
you completely ignore my messages? or my english is SO bad?
HIS GPS WON'T CONNECT WITHOUT DATA CONNECTION IS UP! Not the freaking nav application! Maverick uses preloaded maps too, GPS Status&Toolbox doesn't use maps at all, Turbo GPS doesn't use maps, every program that uses GPS to receive location or establishing connection with sattelites DOESN'T receive location or establish connection without data connection!
Now the problem is clear?
As i told, problem is solved
And iGO is total ****
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you completely ignore my messages? or my english is SO bad?
HIS GPS WON'T CONNECT WITHOUT DATA CONNECTION IS UP! Not the freaking nav application! Maverick uses preloaded maps too, GPS Status&Toolbox doesn't use maps at all, Turbo GPS doesn't use maps, every program that uses GPS to receive location or establishing connection with sattelites DOESN'T receive location or establish connection without data connection!
Now the problem is clear?
As i told, problem is solved
And iGO is total ****
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Damn tell me that "HIS GPS WON'T CONNECT WITHOUT DATA CONNECTION IS UP" from the first time... btw this is a rom related problem...
Hi,
I'm just wondering why my GPS doesn't work without internet connection. It just can't connect to any sattelite. I'm currently using PFGPS v2.0 FIX for my country (Poland) and I don't see any changes. What is wrong?
It requires Internet to load the maps
Can I load maps now to use GPS without internet connection if I'm not in wifi area?
Brajano95 said:
Can I load maps now to use GPS without internet connection if I'm not in wifi area?
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how can you load maps without internet connection ??
I'm at home now so I can do it cause I have wifi here :/
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I'm at home now so I can do it cause I have wifi here :/
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so you have wifi that means you are connected to the internet!!!
for GPS it can only find your position but can't display your location on a map without an internet connection so GPS needs one.
I will wait for answer from another person. Thank you.
There is an application on the market(related to sports/tracking) that allows you to download a portion of a map and then you can use your GPS offline(no data connection). When I get home I will look for it(I have it on my tablet).
Correct me if I am wrong but Brajano95 means that is it possible to load the maps on his wifi connection and keep then saved when he is out and about to allow the gps to connect. You used to be able to do this in the google labs section on google maps but they've since taken it away unless you look for an older version. Otherwise have a look for third party map app on the android market which allows downloading of map data to the phone
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Correct me if I am wrong but Brajano95 means that is it possible to load the maps on his wifi connection and keep then saved when he is out and about to allow the gps to connect. You used to be able to do this in the google labs section on google maps but they've since taken it away unless you look for an older version. Otherwise have a look for third party map app on the android market which allows downloading of map data to the phone
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Thats exactly what I'm talking about! Now I'm downloading Sygic Aura (about 550 mb) and will test it later.
Because GPS and Maps on CM7 suck balls at best. Maps is using your I.P. for the GPS coordinates when on WIFI, without it Maps is counting on a reliable signal from your GPS; and that's just not going to happen with CM7.
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You can use iGo My Way
I know a fair bit about the GPS module in the Ace so i will comment. I think someone has already told you that it is possible to operate the Ace with preloaded maps. Likewise, i thought that the OP's choice of Sygic Navigation is a fair one.
Back to the original question in the title. GPS can operate with or without internet be it wifi or data e.g. 3G/2G. The difference is how fast you can obtain a GPS lock. Without using any positioning help from data connectivity, you are looking at a lock time of possibly 15 minutes thereabout.
There are 4 modes of operation possible for the GPS module in the Ace which is actually Qualcomm's GpsONE.
1.) Standalone (Slowest using positioning information in cache and smart polling)
2.) MS-Based (Sends data to nearby cell tower(s) and makes use of GPS transceivers in the cell tower(s)
3.) MS-Assisted (Similar to MS-Based BUT data connectivity is broken when GPS transceiver is online. I don't quite like that!)
4.) MS-Based/Hybrid (You need to have superb data connectivity probably cell tower signal strength should be in the -50dBm region. Not very useful in real life usage)
i have had my own thread for fixing GPS, so read up if you want to know more here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320626
first you need the maps to use it offline, and the correct gps.conf for your location http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284506, then you can use it without internet
Mapdroyd is a great app that allows you to download maps for offline use. Unfortunately there isn't offline navigation though..
Hi,
I've solved my problem, just install Sygic! Thanks for helping guys
btw u dont need too install anything.. go to google labs inside maps and add map cache.. now long press a location on map.. click the arrow on the address and u ll see an option to cache that area.. the steps may not be accurate as i tried it a long time back and dont have my phone with me but its possible and what u have to do will be more or less the same...
I'm about to buy a mobile phone white label that says owning just "A-GPS" (not internal GPS).
If I install a browser like CoPilot or iGO and respective maps on sd card, I can navigate offline?
In other words, my question is whether the system with A-GPS it is possible to browse offline, without spending net traffic, since the browser and maps are on the respective memory card.
Or this system always needs to connect to the network?
Thank you.
Anyone????
It should have GPS, since A -GPS is assisted GPS and only helps the actual GPS get a more accurate reading
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I'm about to buy a mobile phone white label that says owning just "A-GPS" (not internal GPS).
If I install a browser like CoPilot or iGO and respective maps on sd card, I can navigate offline?
In other words, my question is whether the system with A-GPS it is possible to browse offline, without spending net traffic, since the browser and maps are on the respective memory card.
Or this system always needs to connect to the network?
Thank you.
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Many maps can be downloaded and if they are of your area can be used for location with GPS when you are offline. Navionics charts are an example. Latest googlemaps as well. Experiment with your desires provider. The answer is NO, your system does not always need to be connected to cell network.
Techically AGPS is a method used to get a quicker GPS lock by using wifi/cell approx location. If it only has AGPS they could just be referring to the Google location services part of android which will get your approx position from wifi networks. If it has a real GPS then you could use it offline with any app that has offline maps.
JATG.001 said:
I'm about to buy a mobile phone white label that says owning just "A-GPS" (not internal GPS).
If I install a browser like CoPilot or iGO and respective maps on sd card, I can navigate offline?
In other words, my question is whether the system with A-GPS it is possible to browse offline, without spending net traffic, since the browser and maps are on the respective memory card.
Or this system always needs to connect to the network?
Thank you.
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Why not link to a sales page for the phone so people can see some details about it and maybe have a better idea of whether it has gps as well as a-gps?
Officially a-gps uses cell tower information so without more details of the phone you can't get a more specific answer than being told people aren't sure.
Dave
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Thanks for all opinions.
One phone is this: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-Android-4-0-Smartphone/600394_640257466.html
And the other is: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free...roid-2-3-WCDMA-3G-GSM-gps-wifi/518597611.HTML
Anyone have real GPS?