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Hi all,
First of all I want to let you know that I did search the forum for a solution. In fact, I found a lot of workarounds but none of them actually worked.
Let me give some details about my problem: My Hermes was working fine. I was running the official WM6 ROM supplied by HTC, so no customized ROM here.
It was going fine until the WM frozed. Then I soft reset the device and after that I never got cellular signal again.
While booting the device I got the message: "no GSM".
First thing I tried was to flash a new radio ROM. In all the attempts the progress bar never moved from 0% and after a while I got the communication problem error.
Then I tried flashing a whole ROM. This time the progress bar stopped at 81%. Apparently in the first 81% it flashes the OS and in the last 19% it writes the radio. Anyway, I tried this a few times and never finished.
In fact, after every communication error message I got stuck in the bootloader screen.
The only thing that works is to flash a ROM WITHOUT the radio!!
Is there anything I can do to save my phone or am I condemned to use my Hermes as a phone-less pda?
I tried everything I found in the wiki/forums, but I couldn't find a working solution.
I suspect that the blocks of memory where the radio data reside got corrupted, could that be possible?
PLEASE HELP!
thanks in advance!
Chris
A similar thing happen to me several months ago. While on a call my phone froze and when I soft-reset it the dreaded 'No GSM' issue appeared. I tried flashing radios/full roms/etc, but nothing worked. I ended up sending my phone to the htc repair facility and they fixed it at no cost. (Other than not having a phone for ~10 days)
Thanks dang, but I don't have a HTC service center where I live (Argentina, LATAM)
I'm faithful that the people of this wonderful community will be able to help me.
Just for curiosity, where did you send your device? Is it in the US?
cheers
sounds like a hardware problem to me...
Hi, there! I found that a lot of us who have bricked our Hermes, don't have a responsive radio bootloader, so when they try to flash a full rom, the progress bar hangs to 13%, or 81%. This is because at that time the flasher is trying to enter the radio bootloader, but because it's corrupted, it hangs. Till today there is no known solution to this one. I'm far away from England where I bought my Hermes, so I'm not thinking to send it back for repair. I'm a programmer, so my knowledge may be usefull here. The first thing I must know is if i can use the "lnb" command without being SuperCID. I mean if there is something like a Hard-SPL with an "lnb" command - (or renamed for security reasons). Maybe there is hope!
How can I try that?
windshearx said:
The first thing I must know is if i can use the "lnb" command without being SuperCID. I mean if there is something like a Hard-SPL with an "lnb" command - (or renamed for security reasons). Maybe there is hope!
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You can use 'lnb' in HardSPL without having a real SuperCID; however you will not be able to flash a radio with 'lnb' command. The radio chipset has its own bootloader, the and the SPL just acts as a pass-through sending the data directly to radio chipset through the s2410 UART.
I had one device with non-responsive htc_boot and tried all kinds of SPL patches to flash htc_boot again on radio, without success. The only known method to fix this is to take the BGA chip out with hot air and reflash it with special hardware, as it is not common to have this equipment at home, your only option is to send it somewhere to do it for you.
However, I don't want to discourage you to research on it, maybe you find something i didn't
I have a similar problem
I also have a NO GSM and corrupted CID but I can access KITL and use it with PB 5.0. and I followed this steps here but the phone doesnt boot completely. It stops just after the two boot screens on Black WM6 ending on a white screen and the debug window on PB after loading all sort of things begin showing these lines over and over:
@@@@@@ HUB state changes now @@@@@@
[HDC]HubStatusChangeThreadPN TRUE
[HDC]HubStatusChangeThreadPN FALSE
Is there any hope for me? I have the cingular 8525
thanks
Gents, do you think the solution presented in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280425 could help me?
Please advise.
thanks again
chriscec said:
Just for curiosity, where did you send your device? Is it in the US?
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I sent it to the HTC service center in Texas, US.
I just got my replacement from ATT.. Had the same problem. Its a hardware problem.. I wouldnt waste anymore of your time.
first, i'm sorry for my english
I've the same problem with a V1605 (french SFR), i've tried every solution but flash radio doesn't work.
I can flash cooked os without any problem, but it's impossible to put official
It's only a pda now, it's better than a brick
My hernes use to be the same as you 'NoGSM'.I tried to install the official rom,but it 's not work at all.I called to service center ask this problem,so they said that it must be only changed the mainboard. That 's terrible!!!
for ALL -that has NO GSM and stuck at OS boot,
please follow this link -
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=PB_KITL_HERMES
the link above help me to bring back my hermes alive (about four hours work).
otoro_315 said:
for ALL -that has NO GSM and stuck at OS boot,
please follow this link -
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=PB_KITL_HERMES
the link above help me to bring back my hermes alive (about four hours work).
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That only works with phones with KITL...which I don't seem to have.
Sorry, how to config the phone with KITL and solve the no gsm problem.
No GSM but when sim inserted
Hi all, First sorry for my bad english.
I also have 2 bricked Tytn Hermes 200. Its not my personal ones Its my company's property, which pple were using this phones. So i'm facin with problem which many pple here having but with exception. both phones having no gsm error when sim inserted but without sim its fine. In other words , device info showing every info including IMEI when sim unavailable. And some times works with sim but after making few call and receiving phone hangs(not system) and goes off from network but anthena signal still showing few bars. I'm thinking maybe the radio hangs totally and goes off, and after soft restart NO GSM. I also tried many flashing upgrading those things nothing can really help me.
When im flashing original rom from HTC (the latest one HTC_TyTN_WWE_3.54.255.3_6275_1.48.00.10_108) its hanging on 12% and doing 3 or 4 times recovery , but its finishes succesfully. So what exactly happening in 12th%?. Maybe its started flashing radio and stopped on bad block ? But then why its finishes succesfully after few retry?. Ok so if any one wants to experiments on the phones except radio welcome. I'll help. And some can give me quick example of how to check bad blocks?.
Tnx.
@akarandomjames -
#1. have you try the comm button+reset button hold for 2-3 seconds
#2. OR try the comm button+OK button+reset button hold for 2-3 seconds
anyway, i'm not sure if KITL is dependend on the ROM version. because when my device was in NO GSM status, SPL is 1.04, HTC bootloader is 0108, and lost SuperCID. Because of my device is still has SPL 1.04, i was able to load WM5 full ROM upgrade using WWE HTC English QTEK_001 2.05.255.1 01/17/07 version (ROM available on this site under HERMES Upgrade link), run it twice. once you have successful load the WM5 ROM then try to do step #1 or #2 above to get KITL USB display on your screen device.
Note: i don't think KITL mode is not available once your device is in Production Mode. anyone here can verify this?
otoro_315 said:
@akarandomjames -
#1. have you try the comm button+reset button hold for 2-3 seconds
#2. OR try the comm button+OK button+reset button hold for 2-3 seconds
anyway, i'm not sure if KITL is dependend on the ROM version. because when my device was in NO GSM status, SPL is 1.04, HTC bootloader is 0108, and lost SuperCID. Because of my device is still has SPL 1.04, i was able to load WM5 full ROM upgrade using WWE HTC English QTEK_001 2.05.255.1 01/17/07 version (ROM available on this site under HERMES Upgrade link), run it twice. once you have successful load the WM5 ROM then try to do step #1 or #2 above to get KITL USB display on your screen device.
Note: i don't think KITL mode is not available once your device is in Production Mode. anyone here can verify this?
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My device is still SuperCID and I know I don't have KITL...I have SPL 1.04 as well and HTC Bootloader is 0108. I can't install any ROMs with radios as they will hang at 11/12%. I will attempt this "overload" method where it seems some people have had luck with it...after a few recoveries it just finally installs...but I don't think that will be the case.
If I can't fix this in a few days, I will most likely use my warranty or just wait for the Kaiser.
My variation of No GSM
I feel like I have problem 1A...where I am able to boot into OS but no GSM.
I am still SuperCID, SPL 1.04, HTC Bootloader 0108. Last known radio before corruption was 1.48.00.00. ROM where this problem occured: VP3G 3.60.1.
I was not even in the middle of an upgrade...just a soft reset after my phone ALREADY lost GSM capabilities during a tether session. It was stuck with no signal in Phone Mode...I put it in Flight Mode...then tried to move it back to Phone Mode and it wouldn't do so. I soft reset...and the no GSM stuck.
I tried to reinstall radio...many errors...stuck on bootloader. At first, OS's only were not installing as well but I got past that. Now I am able to boot into OS's with limited capabilities...and they will NOT ACTIVESYNC at all. Regardless of how old or new the ROM is. I tried older OS's that I knew worked in the past for me...but they refused to activesync.
Due to that, I am not able to install latest HardSPL 2.10Oli via SSPL. That seems to be the only way to do it according to my knowledge and what I've read. Maybe mtty was capable but I'm not sure. HardSPL 1.40Oli wasn't giving me any problems though, but I just wanted to have the latest one so I can avoid IPL damage.
I can only install anything if I start the device in bootloader...and I'm only limited to the OS since my Radio Bootloader seems corrupted.
I'm not sure what caused the corruption in the first place...but I feel annoying now posting on different parts of the forum with a problem that seems to be growing in the community.
UnBrick the Bricked Hermes with "SPL 2.03 - IPL 1.04 - NO GSM - KITL Disabled"
There are many people have this kind of brick but still no solution for it.
I want to ask the mods to make this thread sticky so if anyone find a sulotion for this type of brick would post it Here.
Summary :
IPL: 1.04
SPL: 2.03
CID: NO CID (Request timeout on mtty.exe)
NO GSM
KITL Disabled
I have tested all the possible sulotions available in the wiki but none of the could help me unbrick my hermes.
P.S. : Please just post your sulotions here NOT your comments like "you should superCID your device first", "It's your fault to use telstra wm6",....
Has anyone found a sulotion for this???
You Pm-ed me asking what to do and i pointed you in the correct direction so why have you started this thread?!
Hermes Unbricking Thread
and
Wiki page: How to unbrick your bricked hermes
EVERYTHING you need is there, you just have to read.
Maybe You do not read my Pm!
I have read all the wiki and thread concerning my problem several times!
The simple truth is that some phones are unrecoverable and have to be sent off for repair. Yours is one of these situations and I very much doubt that this will change. More and more of the pioneering technical guys will have updated their Hermes to another phone and the much admired POF has not been seen since he was accused of stealing...
The tacit feeling is that there is enough information and utilities to prevent people bricking their phones (i.e HardSPL and Update from MicroSD card) so if you do find yourself in this unfortunate position and can not recover your phone then you have to bite the bullet, and be better informed the next time.
POF accused of stealing !!!!????
What's that all about?
I dunno if I have a the same problem, but a similar issue, and trust me I am "PC guys, AMD fanboy, A+ tech:"whatever you wanna call i, I am expanding my horizons and I got into the mobile PC world. Trust me I am NOT Google lazy, i have read and read and read and researched and cross-checked and tried literally everything. I am stuck, I know what is wrong with my Hermes, I know where it messes up, and I DO see threads in other sites with 99.9% the same problem I have and I see NO soultion or anyone who knows or Really wants to help, I feel for Koorosh we need help, I have come to terms if have to send it away to repair. That bugs me I got it Literally 3 days ago, and ONLY used the OFFICAL AT&T WM6 Rom to upgrade
on my bootloader all I see is this........
IPL: 1.04
SPL: 2.03
I have too see in my display
IPL: 1.04
SPL: 2.03
when i can flash radio 1% and restart device!
try it
i also had the same problem.i have resolved using rom update through memory card.look for it in wike section.all the best.try it with original rom that came with the phone.
this will not work in this site again no solution for bricked spl2.03 cid locked
biswajitghosh said:
i also had the same problem.i have resolved using rom update through memory card.look for it in wike section.all the best.try it with original rom that came with the phone.
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Do you know to read micro sd flash not work when device is not superCID!!!
I maybe have the same issue.
From the HTC ROM I flashed my device to Shannix Grass rom, a few days later I flashed to Satin Black rom, so far so good. After that I want to flash back to Shannix Grass and my deviced crashed. While booting he stuck at the HTC screen.
I tried to hard reset, flash another rom (stuck and reset at 1%), flash the bootloader (stuck and reset at 7%). After the failed ROM flashing I get error 270 image is corrupted.
In mtty I tried to format the NAND, and tried the erase command, nothing worked.
How can I diagnose the problem further. Is it possible to see why the ROM update failed or why the OS won't boot? I did some monitoring with USB monitor but I didn't get results where I get some conclusions of.
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HTC Integrated Re-Flash Utility, Common Base Version : 1.51d
Device Name: HERM100, Bootloader Version : 2.03
Built at: Jun 16 2007 01:57:22
Copyright (c) 1998-2006 High Tech Computer Corporation
(My device is Herm200)
wow , i have the problem too. i almost live in phoneless .
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SOLVED !!!!!!!! my phone now works
If your device became inoperable like mine, because i had a failed ROM upgrade,and the device failed to power up i have good news for ya.
MY DEVICE info is as below.
Problem:
Phone does not boot up, and looks like a red brick.
IPL: 1.04
SPL: 2.03
(it always gave an error 206 at 1% of any ROM update i tried)
Solution:
I downloaded the official WM6 ROM from the HTC's website below,
http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html
Then reset my device to the bootloader screen.
(holding the 'ok' button and the 'power' button and then using my stylus to push the 'reset' button close to the USB port.
i then disconnect the USB cable from my phone, and the display showed 'serial'.
i then ran the downloaded file, and waited till the collecting information from phone window came up, then i connected the usb cable back to the phone.
it connected, and VOALLA!!!... it started the update.
at least its better to have a working phone(without all the custom stuff), than none.
I hope this was not booring( with all the detail and all), but i hope it will help anyone out there who's device wont bootup.
wow , congraution!
i will take the method. but i wonder should i have to get the "connecting time" in the right point, or the computer can't find my phone??
( hope u know what i mean?)
Um.... i cant say for sure
weyun0513 said:
wow , congraution!
i will take the method. but i wonder should i have to get the "connecting time" in the right point, or the computer can't find my phone??
( hope u know what i mean?)
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Well.. i can't say you should wait 1 or 2 seconds, but just plug it in as soon as you get that screen. i hope it works for you tooo.
what was ur exact situation beforeu can unbrick ur phone???
IPL?
SPL?
KITL??
NO GSM ERROR?
what was the rom that has bricked ur device??
where did it stuck during the brick phase?
is that 1st splash,2nd splash,...??
This method did not work for me!!!!!
Try the Official Cingular ROM
koorosh_bsboys said:
This method did not work for me!!!!!
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My Hermes "red hot brick" happened when i tried upgrading to aCRCs_PHKv12r8, from a Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.31_WWE_Full ROM.
My device is a Cingulat 8525.
The upgrade went to the tricolor screen, and after 1% , my phone magically went off. I tried powering on, but it went to the tricolor screen again showing
IPL 1.04
SPL 2.03
and underneath showed "serial".
me too i'm having the same problem....any experts out there that could help us?
I tried to flash 1.43.00.00 radio on to my hermes and it got to 0% and had an error (error had a 2 in it and was 3 numbers i think) I now have my hermes with tri colour screen
i had updated to scaps rom using mr vanx's online tutorial and installed the rom, hard spl and radio version provided there. I'd had a bad install though and it left me with a damaged security area i think which meant i was given the original imei and it was barred.
I then tried to install radio 1.43.00.00 but it failed as i said before i now have the tri colour screen and i tried to plug it in to the usb and the text changes from 'serial' to 'usb' but nothing happens on the pc or when i try and charge it.
I have read through the wiki on bricked hermes but did not undestand which type i had and even then how to fix it.
Please help! Thanks in advance
What I did was download the original WM5 ROM from AT&T (MY provider). As long as your tri-color screen says usb you should be able to run the rom update just fine.
I cant remember if I went to file / connectionsettings/ and unchecked "allow usb settings" or not. but long story short you can not load a cooked rom while its in this state. Reload the Rom then the Radio and you should be good to go.
thanks ill give it a try
legend nice 1
Hi guys.
I've a big problem.
During a radio update my tytn crashed, so i can enter only in the bootloader, nothing else.
I have in the bootloader:
Herm100
IPl-1.04
Herm100
SPL-2.10.Olipro
I've tried to flash the originale rom (cingular 8525) but it always stuck at 12% with error 262.
Also activesync doesn't work, when i put the usb cable on pc-pda the icon remain grey, not becoming green...
Any hope to revive my pda?
Thanks in advance for your help!
UPDATE
I've tried to flash schaps 3.54b (microsd method) and now windows mobile works.
the remained problem is the radio, when i boot the device i read:
R: NONE
G: NONE
bad sign?
Yep... Search for another thread here with radio problems i think that happens with 1.54 radio roms
I've never encountered a problem with the radio rom 1.54.xx.xx.
The "No GSM" error is nigh well impossible to fix. No-one I know has a lasting fix. There are 2 causes, I believe, that may be the culprit.
1). The radio rom memory area is corrupted... - Give up now, there is no help, You need a new motherboard.
2). The antenna has a problem. If you replace the antenna attached to the motherboard this may fix the problem. I did this.
Either way you will need to find a cheap Hermes. I picked up a couple on ebay and salvaged the parts I needed for fairly cheap. I bought "broken" or "faulty" Jasjams. Using them for spare parts I fixed my Hermes and a friends Hermes so they both still work, it was worth it to save my precious phone... Just a thought..,
Cheers...
I had the same problem and have never been solved so I gave up and and I bought me another. I still had the old hermes, so if someone knows how to solve this... I'll be really hapy!
diablos872001 said:
Hi guys.
I've a big problem.
During a radio update my tytn crashed, so i can enter only in the bootloader, nothing else.
I have in the bootloader:
Herm100
IPl-1.04
Herm100
SPL-2.10.Olipro
I've tried to flash the originale rom (cingular 8525) but it always stuck at 12% with error 262.
Also activesync doesn't work, when i put the usb cable on pc-pda the icon remain grey, not becoming green...
Any hope to revive my pda?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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Hope this helps! Click to "Problem 5: Device shows NO GSM when booting"
Hi,
I have MDA Vario II, aka Herm300, aka Tytn ... My problem is that I've got "No GSM". So I got in forum and checked how to try to Fix it threads... So I tried by putting "Hard-SPL" and also I've tried to Upgrade "Radio", but every time when I start upgrade I recieve "Error 262" at 0%, I changed several Radio's but I had always same result. Also I've tried to downgrade to Official Rom of WM5 and it stops at 13% witn "Error 262" . So my Question is:
Is it possible that I have hardware problem not radio problem .
ATM it works fine with Schap's ROM as PDA and "No Gsm" Again ...
On Bootloader I got:
IPL-1.01
SPL-1.40.Olipro
If there is another solution that may help I'm open for advice.
classic brick...
wich one is the 262 error. (why to put the error number? write the entirely error!)
Dunno if it is brick, because I cant update with most of the roms and also I get error with every radio I try to update with ... I've tried with more than 10 radio's from the archive ...
P.S. I think it is Hardware problem + I got brick and because of the hardware problem i cant reinstal rom+radio or rom to repair brick problem ...
So wich one is the error??????
error 206 207 200768 i dont know...i have this issues too and the cprog.exe seems to be incompatible ... my cable hasnt a good contact to the usb plus the rom i had i didnt downgrade to wmoriginal in a few times...
-Mobile MDA Vario II - help my screen is four colours
Hi I have the same phone a T-Mobile MDA Vario II i ran unlock program HTC_Hermes_SIM_CID_Unlock_v3a - i must have run it wrong or something cause my phone has colours on the screen red green blue white with the ipl 1.01and spl 1.40 - it used to ipl 1.4 (ithink) and spl 2.14(i think) before i tried to run the hct_herm.....v3a.
Is my phone trashed or what can i do . when i plug in the usb cable the message at bottom goes from serial to usb but thats it - the active sysnc does not see the phone. help help help any advice welcome ( short of buy a new phone) this is my new phone i only got it a day ago.
tks