Hey Guys,
I happen to stumble upon some websites today that say Android 1.6 is now released. Is it true? Any ideas if Hero could be upgraded to this newer OS?
The SDK has launched so developers can beigin to dev some new apps around the new framework and run Donut in the VM.
The update is looking set to roll out to devices in October, not sure how long it will take to get to us hero users??
Would be posible in no time with a good chef on board, the G1 and magic seem to be benefiting from certain Donut updates as we speak
sphuyal said:
Hey Guys,
I happen to stumble upon some websites today that say Android 1.6 is now released. Is it true? Any ideas if Hero could be upgraded to this newer OS?
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The upcoming "Hero" on Sprint will have a Donut-based OS (Android 1.6). This is self-evident since Sprint is a CMDA network, and Donut is the first iteration of the OS to support CDMA. I would imagine that since the GSM Hero and the CDMA "Hero" have very similar specs, with the exception of the radio, it shouldn't take a competent chef too long to cook up a GSM version of the ROM.
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Dave
The SDK was released meaning you can directly develop against it.
if you go to
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/search/label/Android 1.6
you can watch a vid with the new features.
Hello
jus wondering what the diff in for example OS like cupcake (1.5 yes?) and donut (1.6) is with respect to the ROMs...
The Hero is on 1.5, are other android phones also on 1.5?.....is there like some guide on this stuff.....can we upgrade our OS (officially) to newer ones or we will have to do with OS 1.5 on hero and jus update ROMs?
Thanks.
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If I'm not mistaken HTC's Sense UI is build on top of Android 1.5 Cupcake.
It struck me it would be nice to the the HTC UI on top on the new 2.0 Donut build.
I wondered what are the thoughts of the people on this forum on this.
Does anybody think HTC will do this and will they do it for the Hero as well as newer HTC hardware?
If HTC don't do this for the Hero would anybody else be able to? e.g. MoDaCo?
Apologies if some of my comments/questions are a bit naive or uneducated but I'd appreciate your thoughts.
Some correction:
The new Android SDK version is 1.6, not 2.0
1.6's name is Donut, Donut is not 2.0
One would hope that HTC will update the Hero firmware to Android 1.6 and beyond for as long as the hardware can take it.
If not, I'm sure MoDaCo and others will be playing with this...
well at least the next TWO android updates shouldn't be any problem for the hero and i strongly believe that HTC will provide the updates.
I mean they are doing the same with the new WiMo devices: Touch Diamond 2 and Touch Pro 2 will both get official WM 6.5 updates.
I do believe that the latest MoDaco Rom has components from Donut. Not the new features, just some of the performance stuff.
It's almost an impossible task to get Sense running on Donut without it being sourced from HTC. For one, we don't have the kernel source to even make a donut build. Then you have the problem of getting htc's framework to play nice with the updated 1.6 framework. Even if you do get the htc framework (for Hero) to run on top of 1.6, Sense is still built atop 1.5, so it's no like you'll be able to use global search from Rosie, you'd get a bunch of forcecloses on settings and other key places.
We'll just have to wait for htc to either release 1.6 sense for Hero or use Tattoo's 1.6 sense and port it to Hero, by the way, anybody have a dump yet?
levitator said:
Some correction:
The new Android SDK version is 1.6, not 2.0
1.6's name is Donut, Donut is not 2.0
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Thanks for the correction.
And thanks everyone for your thoughts - I'd be excited to see HTC bring 1.6 to the hero.
Well afer seeing this link:
http://www.htcheroblog.com/2009/09/25/sprint’s-htc-hero-to-launch-with-android-1-6/
which says that Sprint's Hero will already have Android 1.6, obviously running similar (if not the same) Sense UI, I don't see why it should take too long for us European Hero owners to have Sense UI smoothly running on the new 1.6 firmware. I am quite hopeful.
Tattoo is what you're looking for. It's a brighter version of Hero (grey instead of black) but has the widgets and overall appeal. Supports native QVGA resolution. Built on Donut from the start.
I'd like to figure out how to get it on a plain Donut build though.
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Tattoo is what you're looking for. It's a brighter version of Hero (grey instead of black) but has the widgets and overall appeal. Supports native QVGA resolution. Built on Donut from the start.
I'd like to figure out how to get it on a plain Donut build though.
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There is already tattoo bootable port for hero youd have to unodex the whole build and port particular parts to 1.6 or change over the whole framework.apk after unodex'ing to support our 160dpi LCD screens over the tattoos 120dpi screen
gimme a second ill grab the link for this guys thread that ported tattoo for hero the rapidshare links are on page two youll have to fastboot his build its not just an update.zip
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564984
hes already got it going on the hero im working on mytouch(magic) and Dream right now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566501
I have a Kaiser and have Tattoo working just fine. I think it came from the Sapphire threads. Then I have 120 dpi on a QVGA screen as well. Still, I ran it at Hero's resolution and the only thing I could see was that the images were not scaled but it functioned correctly (like the slider bar was cutting off the Phone button on the home screen) so that should be easy to fix. I don't know what you mean about unodexing as I believe that they either don't need it or at the least you can just sign the file back once you've swapped images.
I'd like to know what dependencies it has with the fun of tweaking Hero is rolling over to Tattoo. I'd like SenseUI on a bare Donut to make it a little more stable.
yeah without a doubt we'll be seeing 1.6 + sense in the near future.
the android 1.6 demo suggests that android cupcake doesnt support cdma, donut will. so for the sprint hero to run at all they'll need donut.
hopefully we'll see the donut come out of the oven in the near future
I've got nothing but failed attempts at getting Hero on Cupcake and Tattoo on Donut native ROMs. Maybe someone more experienced can figure out the dependency hell involved. I don't have a MyTouch but I know my way around the ROMs. The only thing you should need is the /system folder from Tattoo and mod boot.img's init script. Or are you having issues getting Donut to run at all?
twittter
if you subsribe to htc on twitter, they usually send out updates, and from what i have been getting we will be gettign 1.6 for sure on the hero.. they just wont give us a when!
My questions are:
1) What are the specialties on the Donut compare to the Hero's ROM;
2) Would it be possible to have the Hero's theme that everyone loves so much on donut;
3) I've seen windows mobile as well as the Iphone 2G having the Hero's theme. So what would make donut be the "next big thing" compare to the Hero.
Donut is Android 1.6. So no big differences. Your hero will be just the same with the update, but with among other things an upgraded Market app.
Denil Wong said:
My questions are:
1) What are the specialties on the Donut compare to the Hero's ROM;
2) Would it be possible to have the Hero's theme that everyone loves so much on donut;
3) I've seen windows mobile as well as the Iphone 2G having the Hero's theme. So what would make donut be the "next big thing" compare to the Hero.
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I don't think you understand what donut is and how HTC's programs run on the android platform. but no problem
Donut is the name for the 1.6 release of Android. HTC's programs including the interface run on top of the android system. All HTC need to do is test that all the programs run on the new platform version, if they do, whoopie do and release a rom which includes the 1.6 android version. If not (there could be a lot of differences) then they need to update the programs that do not work and then release.
Remember the hero stuff runs on top of 1.5 and will run on top of 1.6 (possibly with a few coding changes). It just takes a little time.
Anybody heard any rumors about a release date or has seen a beta?
Denil Wong said:
My questions are:
1) What are the specialties on the Donut compare to the Hero's ROM;
2) Would it be possible to have the Hero's theme that everyone loves so much on donut;
3) I've seen windows mobile as well as the Iphone 2G having the Hero's theme. So what would make donut be the "next big thing" compare to the Hero.
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I am just curious... did you REALLY see an iPhone 2G running HTC SenseUI??? Can you show me where??
Also, the next big thing, will be Sony erricson s go at android, they have done a custom UI also. Google it,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGkzrjs-Ui0
so it turn out to be, by upgrading to the donut, you'l have just a "regular" android as stated on the link
http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/01/do...-download-come-and-get-them-while-theyre-hot/
but i do have the confident that someone is building a donut into Hero's ROM as we speak.
And SE's UI, named Rachel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDCDUKGaYwI
salmanbodla said:
I am just curious... did you REALLY see an iPhone 2G running HTC SenseUI??? Can you show me where??
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It's just a theme. Seems like a waste of time to me... I mean, if I had an iPhone, I would much rather stick with the default iPhone layout than use this "Sense UI" homescreen, which really just looks like it adds extra steps to doing anything on your phone.
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Anybody heard any rumors about a release date or has seen a beta?
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There were rumoured to be two updates coming from HTC, the one we had just recently and a major update in October.
Was rumour back then and remains so
I complained at the HTC support about the long time missing update to Android 2.1 for the Hero.
They told me that for the Hero a Android "update version" is neccessary and that this" update version" is only available since April from Google.
The Android version 2.1 released in January is not feasible for the Hero.
Is that true? Are there several versions for Android for the several mobiles?
My understanding was, there is only one common Android operating system (of the version 2.1 for example) and this is the same for all mobiles. HTC then "only" builds some additions e.g. the Sense GUI on top of it.
Are they trying to play games with me?
(I hope my English was good enough to express this a little bit complicated stuff. I apologize in advance )
By the way: they also told me that this update for the Hero "will definitly be released from June on"
Let this be just discussion first...
So today was the Windows Phone 7 announcement and a lot of new devices were announced including the HTC 7 Mozart:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-mozart-and-7-trophy-set-out-to-conquer-the-wp7-world-7-pr/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-mozart-first-hands-on/
Pretty similar hardware and look to our Desire... I know it's early now but do you think that we will be able to port Windows Phone 7 to our Desire? Just for fun... Android is good enough.
Moved to General as not development.
Would be much more difficult since that's 100% reverse engineering 'cause Windows Phone 7 OS is not open source at all. But not impossible, though don't expect any...
EleCtrOx666 said:
Would be much more difficult since that's 100% reverse engineering 'cause Windows Phone 7 OS is not open source at all. But not impossible, though don't expect any...
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Devs here have made wonders, and I think I saw a dev here running WP 7 on an HD 2....
I think we only need some sort of a bootloader... as the hardware is pretty similar it should boot and some parts should work.
I'm also more than satisfied with Android, but hey... as a geek, dual booting my smartphone does have some appeal
Seems unlikely. One of the biggest problems with pouring android to a wm phone is that some of the drivers are in the radio rom and that is closed. So a huge among of work goes into figuring out how to talk to the hardware then coding that into the linux kernel source. In the case of wp7, there will be no source code at all, just binaries. Without haret and debug information, there is no way to start other than flashing the rom and seeing whether it bricks. Maybe if haret got ported out would be a start. (maybe it already has, I didn't look at this for a while).
....speaking about Bravo clones, how about one that runs WinMo 6.5?
http://phonereplica.info/dual-sim/touch-g7-dual-sim-phone-htc-desire-clone.html
....and a video of the action:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Un6h1tEL1GE/
rete said:
....speaking about Bravo clones, how about one that runs WinMo 6.5?
http://phonereplica.info/dual-sim/touch-g7-dual-sim-phone-htc-desire-clone.html
....and a video of the action:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Un6h1tEL1GE/
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These clones always make me laugh a little. Why don't they just put Android on them? Lol.
I'm 100% sticking with Android but, I'd love to be able to dual boot WP7. You know, just to say I can
This would be hard work!
WP7 ist not OpenSource so creating driver etc is vey heavy!
Side note, anyone know if its going to be SIM free? Orange have the exclusive as an operator but I'm quite tempted to have a look at this...first previews are saying WP7 is VERY fast
Orange will have paid through the nose to get exclusivity of this phone so don't expect to see it sim free for at least a couple of months, they normally have either 6 weeks, 3 months or 6 months exclusive rights before going sim free.
I suppose cause the ROMs are out it could just be debranded, assuming it's not too hard to break the bootloader
given desire and mozart have very similar specs, does that mean there's a good chance android can be ported to mozart? im guessing through some kind of bootloader? anyone working on it?
Wondows 7 on htc desire
I would also love, If My HTC Desire is capable of dual boot on Windows 7 and Android. After having such a good hardware but if it does not support on software then it such hardware is of no use.
ameel said:
given desire and mozart have very similar specs, does that mean there's a good chance android can be ported to mozart? im guessing through some kind of bootloader? anyone working on it?
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Any one found a workaround to this yet? Dual booting is lovely. For this reason, I happen to put a hand on a HD2 with WinMo 6.5 and I can boot Android on it but the phone is not mine, so now Im searching for a good HTC phone that gives me the options to play with.
Hello folks, i'm new to this forum and new to the world of smartphones. own a windows phone but have an inquiry about android which i'm sure my genious brothers here will have an answer to. if i buy an android device that has android 2.3 gingerbread and is not upgradeable to version 4.0 ICS, will the apps work fine on the phone. i have the habit of using my phones for atleast 2 years. so if i'm using an android 2.3 version phone for the next 2 years, will the apps work on my phone? like they wont ask for update of the operating system of the phone?
like in Iphone you need to have the last ios to install and use instagram. is the same case with android too?
huzefaonline said:
Hello folks, i'm new to this forum and new to the world of smartphones. own a windows phone but have an inquiry about android which i'm sure my genious brothers here will have an answer to. if i buy an android device that has android 2.3 gingerbread and is not upgradeable to version 4.0 ICS, will the apps work fine on the phone. i have the habit of using my phones for atleast 2 years. so if i'm using an android 2.3 version phone for the next 2 years, will the apps work on my phone? like they wont ask for update of the operating system of the phone?
like in Iphone you need to have the last ios to install and use instagram. is the same case with android too?
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Google will be phasing out old versions of android, and developers may make the switch to newer android systems as well. Currently, about 60-80% or more of the apps currently can support Gingerbread, since Gingerbread devices make up 50% of android devices in the world. (More info here.) I figure, your phone could probably be supported for another year.
If you are clinging on to a phone for 2 years, get a good one! Most ICS Android devices are not too expensive. If your phone is a popularly branded one (Samsung, HTC, Motorola), and if you are willing to take risks, you might be able to upgrade the firmware in your machine, unofficially though.
Now let me type this out for you....
Every time Google releases a new os they release the platform sdk along with the actual source code.... Next developers download these and start building their apps.... Assume that you are a developer and you set the build sdk to a higher android version say ICS then if your phone is on gb you can't run it so it is at the helms of the developers to decide to support an older platform or not.... And forward compability is possible in android reverse compability may or may not work.... Any doubts post it below I would be happy to respond sir...
sent from cyanmobile powered Beni
thanks for the prompt response guys and clearing my confusion i'm currently using htc hd 7 windows phone 7.5 but the battery really sucks so was thinking of changing the phone and buying an android one but the phones i was checking are out of my range. can you please suggest some good cheap android ics phones?
huzefaonline said:
thanks for the prompt response guys and clearing my confusion i'm currently using htc hd 7 windows phone 7.5 but the battery really sucks so was thinking of changing the phone and buying an android one but the phones i was checking are out of my range. can you please suggest some good cheap android ics phones?
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What's the budget? There are a bunch of xperias with ics (some even upgradable to jb).
There are plenty cheap stock ICS phones, built by LG and Samsung, such as the Galaxy Ace. Look around for the best value for money.
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xudsa II USERT said:
There are plenty cheap stock ICS phones, built by LG and Samsung, such as the Galaxy Ace. Look around for the best value for money.
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lulz. bad advice. the galaxy ace came default with froyo, upgradeable to gingerbread, but if anyone buys it now it'll came default with gingerbread.
but definitely not came default with ics and not upgradeable to it either, officially.
i own one previously.
imho ace is not what op is looking for. by todays standard, amv6 phone is a big no-no.