HTC keyboard typing is slow and hard - thats what Im noticing.
Is there any way to remove the HTC goodies and make it a standard ROM without the goodies and go with the defaults that you see in the TMobile G1 1.5?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=557586
Hmm, its not really slow. If you are using stock rom, ditch that first and go for modaco 2.2 or 2.73.405.5 (unless you got the indian 2.73.751 version Hero which is almost identical to 405 but we dont get market by default here ) .
Also try to type in landscape as much as you can, bigger buttons, easier to type and faster.
The Ion rom is not really fully functional yet.
What are you comparing it with ?
Personally, I am finding it better than the wife's iPhone (she is using a hero as well now and is happy with it).
Zuber
Im using the Indian stock (which does include market for a change).
Im comparing it with the TMobile G1 1.5 ROM's keyboard without all the eye-candy that HTC loaded it with (the eye candy is great but I think a vanilla version or Android default) would give more speed and ram to play with.
^^ So you and I have same version. I heard reports that some people got the phone without market here. ( Was yours airtel locked? ).
I didnt bother with stock rom to be honest. I was using Polish white Hero before which I sold to get the black one locally, did the nandroid backup just to keep backup of stock rom, rooted the phone and flashed it with Modaco 2.2. and it seems pretty responsive to be honest ( All apps are on Memory card ). And I do not experience any lag here. Maybe I am already used to this device.
Just do nandroid backup of stock rom and try the Modaco. You can always roll back.
Cannot say I share your opinion (the OP's). I never had a device with a real keyboard, so I have always used onscreen keyboards for years now.
The Hero's keyboard is one of the best I've used so far, if not the best.
I am using the compact qwerty now, and with the help of the capacitive screen and xT9 I'm typing faster on a phone than I've ever done!
So same as the rest, give that new rom a try (or MoDaCo 2.2, which I'm also using).
However, the keyboard is REALLY LAGGY when typing in the browsers (whether stock browser or Steel browser). In other apps like messages, handcent and mail, it is just fine.
No lag on my keyboard in the stock browser on Modaco 2.2
Regards,
Dave
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hi to the people out there i'm looking for the newset coolest roms i want to update to my phone to a new rom but i'm not sure what is out there now but i do want the newest version of windows mobile 6.5 and sense 2.5 who has it on their rom send me a link or post it. oh my phone is cdma and verizon htc touch pro.
NFS FTW!
well vzw tp suck. no ram so sense 2.5 is kinda a no go unless you want lag. but wm 6.5 is a def yes. check out NFSFAN its got sense 2.1.
His roms are blazingly fast, and wicked (boston accent ) stable. I've been using it for at least a month now.
here are da links (two different builds one is the older build with menu at top and the other at the bottom.) i prefer the top menu one cause i dont like the bottom one
Top Menu Buttons
Bottom Menu Buttons
i got sense 2.5 1921 running fine on the touch pro but keep it coming people and ill check out your sugguestion and no i'm not being lazy i'm just making sure i don't brick my phone that why i gave all the info
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well vzw tp suck. no ram so sense 2.5 is kinda a no go unless you want lag. but wm 6.5 is a def yes. check out NFSFAN its got sense 2.1.
His roms are blazingly fast, and wicked (boston accent ) stable. I've been using it for at least a month now.
here are da links (two different builds one is the older build with menu at top and the other at the bottom.) i prefer the top menu one cause i dont like the bottom one
Top Menu Buttons
Bottom Menu Buttons
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I have not tried this one yet, but, and sense sucks in my opinion. Giggles, are you one a TP V or TP S? The rom you recommend has a 16 meg page pool! I am stuck with 4 TP V and I have listened to my wife and kids ***** for over a year about them. I always set my page pool to 6 meg but even so, every wm6.5 and 6.1 with any version + sense or any slider app has made the phone almost useless.
I used SSK 3.0 Touch Pro Visual Kitchen - Preview 2 and I loaded the second version of 6.1 and then I unchecked anything sense or icon or extra and my phone is smoking fast now. After the easy GUI built the ROM, I set the pagepool to 6 and flashed.
I use http://pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.html and although I have not fully tested it nor set it up all the way, I finally have a "sense" lol of hope. I do not need all them fancy things. Plus i think http://pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.html does more and it does weather with certain skins.
I mean ****, we are stuck with low memory, and with any sense stuff or slider this or that, my family and I could not answer the damn phone half the time.
i have the tp verizon i mentioned that do you know ho to use the page pool thing is it the higher the better or the other way around. and since the touch pro has some much on board ram and rom i figured if i can figure out how to use it i can set or make a rom to use as much of the ram and rom that i can
I would not set it above 6 megs fot he TP V. It has limited about of ram.
ya but the pro has more ram and rom then diamond i know from the manual on htc website it has 512 and 192 or is it 256 but then again the service manual said 288 i gonna just do a test and see what happens.
i gotta verizon touch pro.
NFSFAN's rom works wonderfully on my tp with 16mb pagepool (its prob cause i dont use sense) titanium looks just like the zune os, and me likey the zune
... but yeah i don't think i mentioned that i hate sense/manila.
um yah, sorry bout that XD.
NFSFAN running just titanium has about 61% used at startup with 16mb pagepool. so yeah do some tweaking around with the pagepool and you'll find something you like.
Just a little tid-bit, i hate sense because its a RAM hog, and our vzw tp don't have lots of RAM so yeah, find a way to partition SD Card storage toward RAM and then we'll talk.
hey i gonna do so experimenting and see what happend to see just how much i can save.
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I have not tried this one yet, but, and sense sucks in my opinion. Giggles, are you one a TP V or TP S? The rom you recommend has a 16 meg page pool! I am stuck with 4 TP V and I have listened to my wife and kids ***** for over a year about them. I always set my page pool to 6 meg but even so, every wm6.5 and 6.1 with any version + sense or any slider app has made the phone almost useless.
I used SSK 3.0 Touch Pro Visual Kitchen - Preview 2 and I loaded the second version of 6.1 and then I unchecked anything sense or icon or extra and my phone is smoking fast now. After the easy GUI built the ROM, I set the pagepool to 6 and flashed.
I use http://pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.html and although I have not fully tested it nor set it up all the way, I finally have a "sense" lol of hope. I do not need all them fancy things. Plus i think http://pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.html does more and it does weather with certain skins.
I mean ****, we are stuck with low memory, and with any sense stuff or slider this or that, my family and I could not answer the damn phone half the time.
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You wouldn't happen to have the SSK kitchen available? His site doesn't exist anymore and can't find a download.
EDIT: This is for X10 Mini Pro
Greets
So, I've looked around for a phone and while I can get other phones like the LG P500 (Android 2.2 capable) or the Galaxy 550 (cheaper 2.1), the keyboard, the whole design and all, it has gotten to me. I have a low-end touch only and it really annoys me to type with a touch keyboard.
So I've been looking around for all the goodies around and saving all the files on my PC, all organized and ready to be used. So far I've taken care of:
- Rooting the phone;
- Installing Link2SD, from what I read, 2.1 can't move an app to the SD;
- Installing Skyfire 4 so flash videos work.
Now, slade has a fully functional ROM out. How beneficial would it be to ditch the phone's 2.1 for this or any other ROM?
I've been keeping my eye on the CM7 ROM as it seems to be 2.1, right?
So, long post short, what else do you recommend and how beneficial is it for me to dive into the custom ROM environment?
Thanks
Az
It depends on ultimately what you want.
CM7
Fast
Camera LED doesn't work
CM6
Decently Fast
Most everything works (except Google Voice SIP and Angry Birds)
Custom ROM also doesn't have the SE SMS issue when a draft exists, it crashes SMS with the keyboard out.
angry birds works on both cm6/7
also sms app doesnt crash on cm6 when keyboard is out.
which version are you using?
Well, from slade's CM7 post, the camera is stuck at 0.3MP, right? I mean, I will be paying for a 5MP one. Is it fully working on CM6? Cuz I don't really care for the radio or ANT, will not be using those for sure.
Yes cm7 camera is still bad. In cm6 which is froyo btw it will work.
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Your latest CM6 ROM is flawless, CM7 has bad camera, that's pretty much all I'd notice. So installing CM6 will give me 2.2. I guess that pretty much closes the deal, I guess I'll take your hybrid ROM and wait till CM7 is complete. CM7 is 2.3?
Slade CM6's ROMs (there's 2 flavours) are the most suitable for daily use IMHO.
The camera issues in CM7 prevent it from being a daily use ROM for me.
Almost everything is working perfectly in CM6... only bug i've found is when playing music for a while, sometimes phone crashes.
The great thing about playing with dev roms is that you can always revert back to your stock 2.1 backup (or any other backup) if you don't like it. So give it a try, if you don't like it, just revert back... takes a couple of minutes
The backing up of the original ROM, is it with xRecovery?
tcp.Az said:
The backing up of the original ROM, is it with xRecovery?
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Yes, install xrecovery... backup your current install, then play with dev roms until you're happy.... if you don't like whatever you've installed, then restore your backup with xrecovery again
Ok, thank you both, now, on to get the little thing!
Rzykerz said:
It depends on ultimately what you want.
CM7
Fast
Camera LED doesn't work
CM6
Decently Fast
Most everything works (except Google Voice SIP and Angry Birds)
Custom ROM also doesn't have the SE SMS issue when a draft exists, it crashes SMS with the keyboard out.
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Angry bird working awesome for Me, and sms tooo
go get it! worth every penny. there are many roms that will surely satisfy your requirements.
Rzykerz said:
It depends on ultimately what you want.
CM7
Fast
Camera LED doesn't work
CM6
Decently Fast
Most everything works (except Google Voice SIP and Angry Birds)
Custom ROM also doesn't have the SE SMS issue when a draft exists, it crashes SMS with the keyboard out.
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I've tryed only Slade's CM6 V2 rom and found that the camera performance is noteably inferior to the stock rom. I ll be happy if proven wrong.
tcp.Az said:
EDIT: This is for X10 Mini Pro
Greets
So, I've looked around for a phone and while I can get other phones like the LG P500 (Android 2.2 capable) or the Galaxy 550 (cheaper 2.1), the keyboard, the whole design and all, it has gotten to me. I have a low-end touch only and it really annoys me to type with a touch keyboard.
Az
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Well, my previous phone was an HTC HD2 which I ran with an android nand rom. Although it was quite a machine I find myself happier with the mini pro, the key points being the hardware keyboard, better 5mp camera and better music quality. Low points are the tiny screen and that the mini pro is slower and also the inferior battery life. Still though, I dont regret the change one bit
I mean, maybe better phones feel better, but I guess I am one of those people that won't feel good without the physical keys. I've seen some differences in prices from shop to shop, I found it a little weird. Like, 20€. But it's okay.
And MT is being worked on, I think awsomeness is on it's way
ickata said:
Well, my previous phone was an HTC HD2 ... I find myself happier with the mini pro
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I just notice that Mini Pro's keyboard perhaps seems to be too small but in real life it is flawlessly useable.
My second note is that: is OK for English only - special characters are pain in the @ss.
Third notice is that: HW keyboard usable only when You using phone "horizontally". In practice I using phone in "vertical" position and if want to type, I must to slide-out HW keyboard, type fast, then close HW keyboard and continue work in this comfort orientation.
If You type much SMS or e-mail, HW keyboard is a _must_. If You browse web-sites often in 320X240 and every time You visit totally different places, typing fast also would be good - but this is real?
For me, my any other uses in "vertical" orientation - so I almost no using HS keybouard
Considering I am Portuguese... I've looked around, special characters really are a pain, but I'll find a way.
I think I can combine horizontal and vertical, I don't really mind the little screen. Internet will be seldomly used, MSN and Skype mostly.
So I took the plunge and bought my self a Gtab, not too keen on blowing ridiculous amounts of money on tech, so for the specs and price tag the Gtab seemed to be the best bet.
Now I am fairly comfortable flashing Roms, I just would like some input from the community.
So whats the most functional and stable rom available currently?
CM7 has always been my go to first base rom for pretty much any phone I have flashed, but I dont quite like it on my Nook Color, its fairly buggy, but I blame the nook not CM7
but Hardware Acceleration sounds nice, and I know that none of the Comb roms have it, but neither do the GB Roms either right?
Looks like Clemsyns V8 is probably the best 2.2 rom out, but how is it in terms of functionality and compatibility with newer 3d games and other applications?
any other input would be greatly appreciated, I just figured I ask before I go on a flash spree, because it usually takes me a couple weeks of flashing this and flashing that before I settle on a rom and I didnt really want to drag this out that long. I just wanna flash, and use until ICS Stable Rom is released.
FrankenTab and Beastly ROMs are FroYo based and should have hardware acceleration, camera and video support. Plus, they are actively being updated. They aren't Honeycomb, and I still prefer VeganTAB 7.1 (even without hardware acceleration), but the FroYo ROMs will pretty much have everything working until a stable ICS version hits.
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I've tried most of them at some point I guess it matters what you are willing to sacrifice. I love the look and feel of Flashback but no hardware acceleration, no camera, more ram used by the system ... (all Honeycomb roms are like that).
CM7 works great and I keep one gtab on it. MX Player has Tegra 2 software acceleration for video and most games and apps work. Has been very stable for 4 months, not buggy at all and looks great.
My other gtablet has landed on Beasty-Clemsyn. It is a Froyo rom, very stable and very fast with full hardware acceleration. I ended up here because everything just works like it is supposed to. Installed the new market, flashplayer, new version of VTL launcher and I really like it. It will hold me over till an ICS rom comes out.
FrankenTab and Beastly
I've been switching between FrankenTab and Beastly myself.
I think FrankenTab looks nicer overall but I've run across less issues with the Beastly rom and so I've settled with that until ICS is released for our G Tab.
Let us know which roms you try and your experience with them.
I am pleased that my FrankenTAB ROM has found its way over to XDA.
I would love to hear any issues users are having since we are actively developing this ROM (currently working on v1.0.2), but I cant help over here yet with an official support thread. If anyone needs help, you can PM me here, or google FrankenTAB and look for the original and most active thread for it on the site that starts with an "S".
Franken Tab is a great rom, I also went through allot of flashing trying different roms, soon the ICS ROM will be around and I am using the pre-alpha so what ever you decide set up for 1.2Bl and the latest CWM touch version. its coming n its cool.
Yup FrankenTab is the first rom I have flashed on this thing, and I am liking it so far.
-great wifi integrity
-fast as hell
-and the included VTL launcher is nice too.
plus having the ability speak with the Dev directly about suggestions and bugs is very nice as well.
If you want Flash to work well are you limited to 2.2 ROMs?
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sdc177 said:
If you want Flash to work well are you limited to 2.2 ROMs?
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Flash works fine in 2.2 and 2.3 based ROMs. I have it working just fine in VeganTab GE 7.1.
From what I understand, it works (with caveats and quirks) in Honeycomb, and only with certain versions of Flash.
Sadly after messing with Franken and Beastly, I found my self at CM7s door.
Franken had me really really excited at first, it was fast, it was responsive, I only had it set at 1.33ghz, but there were a few issues with both that I found a bit to unstable for my taste.
Will see how CM7 holds me over.
I love 1.09 frankentab. It performs better then anything I have tried but is way behind brilliant corners in bench mark tests. I can't figure that out because it's seems 5 times faster in real life.
clone
Hello,
I have had my Gtablet for about a year, and I have tried many roms.
FY,GB,HC,ICS,etc. Various incarnations. (Well, only 1 ICS)
From my understanding, Viewsonic, like many companies,
uses various suppliers for components, so the individual results with roms will vary.
And the physical build may vary. eg/ Volume (+) is actually (-)
(this is a reported build difference that my tablet has)
I seem to come back to Froyo roms for many reasons. Base platform OS.
Hardware acceleration. Stability. Etc.
Personally, I haven't found a newer gen rom that works as well as Froyo.
As stated on this and other sites, Be sure you follow the recomended
procedures for pre and post install. usually posted in the OP.
Really get to know and understand NVflash.
I always come back to the C+C rom final version. Beasty, although nice,
wouldn't do what C+C does for me.
I use my tablet as much, if not more than I use my PC, and I can run Splashtop
to access my pc, which is cool.
I do find certain games or apps that wont work, but, I am patient.
No problems with google apps.
It really comes down to researching, and testing, and finding out
the best rom for you and your tablet.
After all, this support, is almost free. Kudos to the devs.
J.
sorry. this is on another post. hope that is ok.
I've been on FrankenTAB 1.0.9 for two weeks or so and so far one of the best Froyo ROM's I've tried. I flashed quite a few ROM's for the 1.2BL but this one seems to work the best for me at the moment.
I just put the ICS rom on my gtab, and it looks great. Installing it wasn't that hard, I did have to switch bootloaders to 1.2. The only issue is I can't get my external SD card to work. I love using chrome.
In ICS, the external sd card is not named the way it is in other ICS distributions...look for /microsd folder instead of /emmc or /sdcard/external_sd like you may be used to.
If anyone is already on BL 1.2, ICS is definitely worth installing. The only two things that I've found that do not work are the camera and microphone but for me both are non-issues.
Hello ive been using my gtab with tnt rom and it runs really good
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Hi,
Just curious about some opinions. I have downloaded and used the ICS for Evo 3D (the version just prior to Joel's last upload), and really liked it. I especially loved the fast web browsing.
But I've been running the Xplode XE 3D by Team Nocturnal and everything on the phone works, beautiful look to it, etc.
The web browsing is not as fast, but the battery life seems better.
My question is, other than:
1. The novelty of something new
2. The desire to use the "latest"
What are some other reasons that might be argued for the superiority of ICS?
rcaldw said:
Hi,
Just curious about some opinions. I have downloaded and used the ICS for Evo 3D (the version just prior to Joel's last upload), and really liked it. I especially loved the fast web browsing.
But I've been running the Xplode XE 3D by Team Nocturnal and everything on the phone works, beautiful look to it, etc.
The web browsing is not as fast, but the battery life seems better.
My question is, other than:
1. The novelty of something new
2. The desire to use the "latest"
What are some other reasons that might be argued for the superiority of ICS?
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Use what you like. It's your phone, own it. Don't let us tell you what to run.
But ICS here isn't complete, so that isn't exactly a fair comparison yet. There are many many new features to ICS besides the interface. Things such as face unlock (when camera works), managing your data usage, hardware acceleration - just to name a few. Perhaps you should look up all ICS has to offer, there are tons of sources that share what's new. I can't remember everything and there's just too much to type up here.
Thank you. I wasn't looking for anyone to tell me what to run. But I WAS looking for what you gave me in your post. Just a brief set of a few reasons why one might want to go with ICS. I appreciate it.
Google "ICS vs gingerbread"
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I used a nexus s for a bit with ics. The only thing I miss is the better keyboard and much better voice to text. Everything else was forgettable, and honestly the browser was WORSE because it works like the iPhone in that it zooms but doesn't reformat the text. The way it works with GB is far better.
You're not missing much with GB, I'm in no rush to get it. I just want a good AOSP ROM regardless what release it is
I absolutely adore ICS. I cant bring myself to go back to gingerbread. I think asop gb is ugly now that I've gotten used to ics, its just much prettier! Im also very happy to be rid of Android green. Otherwise I personally feel ICS is a much better OS, especially under the hood, its quick, smooth, and better thought out all around. And once you get used to the keyboard its fantastic, and the text prediction and spell check is the best I've used, i love the keyboard.
Saneless One said:
I used a nexus s for a bit with ics. The only thing I miss is the better keyboard and much better voice to text. Everything else was forgettable, and honestly the browser was WORSE because it works like the iPhone in that it zooms but doesn't reformat the text. The way it works with GB is far better.
You're not missing much with GB, I'm in no rush to get it. I just want a good AOSP ROM regardless what release it is
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The text reflow is a sense browser thing
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The text reflowed on my nexus one and nexus s on stock and cyanogenmod roms for 2.3, so it's definitely not just a sense thing
Reflow worked for me in ICS. I had no problems. Did you use the Chrome beta?
Hi,
I supose there are a lot of topics like this, but I want something different.
I have a xperia s, but the phone has broken and I am sending it to the manufacturer. The only other phone I have lying around is a htc hero, but it is extremely slow!
It has already been rooted, but now I am wondering if someone can recommend me a custom rom. The only things I will need is the ability to call and sms people. I won't be using this phone for long (I hope), so any other functions won't be necessary. I just want it to be fast enough.
Thank you in advance for the help,
Jerodev.
Two of the fastest roms for the hero would be Heroine ++ and Vanilla Eclair 6.2. Heroine is sense, the same version that came with the phone (i think) but faster. Vanilla Eclair is a very early version of stock android and its very fast (well, for this phone). If all you're going to do is call and sms then those should be fine
Btw they are very old roms so I have no idea if the download links still work. If they don't then you could look at either decked_x or shpongle which are both stock android gingerbread roms
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Are there any ROM's optimized for gaming to run raging thunder, fruit ninja etc.?