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something got me thinking last day, can we actualy take a Xda IIi 1,3 mpx camera and put it in our Xda II, i know that the hardware inside is quite different, but the size of the cases and the cameras positions are the same.
And a camera needs only good drivers or software to work fine, I supose, and it seems that the camera is not saldered to the board if we look to the picture of a naked Xda II attached below. There is a guy that started a tread similar to this about replaicing a i-mate jam camera, so he inspired me for this...
That would be soooo sweet.....
I know, that is why i started it, coz it is not that impossible...
I think it is do-able, especially there seems to be a 1.3mp camera version of the Himalaya named 'Andes'.
If the only difference between Andes and Himalaya is the camera I cannot see why it should not be possible . . .
Maybe you do need another case, because the back-side of the Andes is different from the Himalaya back-side.
Oh now i see, so Andes is a Hima with 1,3 mpx camera. That simplyfies the thing, now the question is how to get one of this cameras.
Is there someone who knows some spare parts shop on the net that is selling it?
And i also think that the xda II mini, xda IIi and the HTC Andes have the same camera, coz it would be a waste of money for HTC if they did different cams..
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Oh now i see, so Andes is a Hima with 1,3 mpx camera. That simplyfies the thing, now the question is how to get one of this cameras.
Is there someone who knows some spare parts shop on the net that is selling it?
And i also think that the xda II mini, xda IIi and the HTC Andes have the same camera, coz it would be a waste of money for HTC if they did different cams..
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I seriously doubt that this would work..
Simply bcause the amount of data from a 1.3 MP cam is way bigger than the data amount from the 0.3 MP.. And the registrys might be too small..
"Buffer overflow" comes to mind..
If you got any data at all, I'd think you got the first or last 0.3 MP...
IF ANY AT ALL...
Just my two cents..
I don't think that would be a problem, as HTC had this upgrade already in mind from the beginning as we see , and the buffer size should be controled just with the drivers or software, but I can also be wrong...
And there is no Temp folder for the camera view, the captured data is just dispayed on the screen and it is not memorized anywhere
i tired lots build from this forum , but always meet the problem that camera cannot do portrait self .
some builds really looks nice , but once you use portrait self , then the phone died suddenly. or some builds can not do portrait self , when you turn on this mode in camera ,nothing happen when you press button .
i just wondering ... is there any builds can do portrait self ?
PS : dont tell me that hd2 hasnt the front camera .. see this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AsZd4sEC2Y
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i tired lots build from this forum , but always meet the problem that camera cannot do portrait self .
some builds really looks nice , but once you use portrait self , then the phone died suddenly. or some builds can not do portrait self , when you turn on this mode in camera ,nothing happen when you press button .
i just wondering ... is there any builds can do portrait self ?
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Unless you just invented a front facing camera for hd2, i don't think ANY rom can.
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Unless you just invented a front facing camera for hd2, i don't think ANY rom can.
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man .... you dont know the camera on HD2 back actually can do this ...
suggest you to try RAFDROID HD 4.2 first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970731
after i tried 7 new builds this week , i still decide to go back to use it again , everything almost can work well , includes the portrait self .
for the portrait self function , MCCM V8 and other 2builds also can do ,but not stable , easy to die after portrait self .....
really hope some one can solve this problem -_-
There is no possible way to do that.
Considering that the HD2 does not have a front facing camera.
The camera app may have the option, but the phone doesn't have the hardware.
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mr_billionaire said:
There is no possible way to do that.
Considering that the HD2 does not have a front facing camera.
The camera app may have the option, but the phone doesn't have the hardware.
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sign .... have you read my post carefully ? this HD2 android sd build totally can do !!!! I am using it now !
[21.MAR.11][SD] RAFDROID HD 4.2|Fastest Full DesHD [MAGDLR/WINMO][K: Rafp 1.9 OC]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970731
just try this build yourself first .
also there is a video demo comes from HTC phone show . they use back camera detects your face ,then hold it for 1 or 2 seconds , the camera can take photo automatically .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AsZd4sEC2Y
even you mentioned the front camera , usually the front camera is a low quality one for video chat ,not for photography.
trust me , HTC sense really can do this . just hope some masters can refine the camera problem in sense 3.0 build , cos i found almost all sense 3.0 can not do portrait self ...
mr_billionaire said:
There is no possible way to do that.
Considering that the HD2 does not have a front facing camera.
The camera app may have the option, but the phone doesn't have the hardware.
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When you choose self portrait mode, you turn the back camera to you and as soon it detects your face it focus and automatically takes the picture.. only available in sense roms..
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the HD2 does NOT have a front facing camera. look it up in any manual... no mention of it at all on the HD2, only a rear 5MP facing camera... and whats so different from turning the phone to yourself and taking a picture than and using a "portrait mode" feature? same thing my friend... nothing special or different
you do realize that the lady in the youtube video is the one pointing the phone to herself right? she is holding it with the rear 5MP camera facing her and shes taking a pic... where do you see a front camera working? also... i believe the DESIRE HD does have two cameras, front facing and rear facing.... so a desire rom would work on a desire and give you two camera views, you load a desire rom on your HD2 and you still have only one camera....
so no, the HD2 doesnt have a front facing camera, only 1 buddy use it as you want and please but you only got one to use on the HD2..
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the HD2 does NOT have a front facing camera. look it up in any manual... no mention of it at all on the HD2, only a rear 5MP facing camera... and whats so different from turning the phone to yourself and taking a picture than and using a "portrait mode" feature? same thing my friend... nothing special or different
you do realize that the lady in the youtube video is the one pointing the phone to herself right? she is holding it with the rear 5MP camera facing her and shes taking a pic... where do you see a front camera working? also... i believe the DESIRE HD does have two cameras, front facing and rear facing.... so a desire rom would work on a desire and give you two camera views, you load a desire rom on your HD2 and you still have only one camera....
so no, the HD2 doesnt have a front facing camera, only 1 buddy use it as you want and please but you only got one to use on the HD2..
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yes... this is what i want to say , i mean no new build can use the rear camera to do portrati self like HTC desire HD. i tried lots new builds made in june and july , all can not work well . only the one i mentioned in the #1 post can do .
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man .... you dont know the camera on HD2 back actually can do this ...
suggest you to try RAFDROID HD 4.2 first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970731
after i tried 7 new builds this week , i still decide to go back to use it again , everything almost can work well , includes the portrait self .
for the portrait self function , MCCM V8 and other 2builds also can do ,but not stable , easy to die after portrait self .....
really hope some one can solve this problem -_-
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I really suggest you to get an English Tutor,
For now, i wonder why would you call it "Self Portrait" if you're using the Back cam.
After seeing the video, from what i come to understand is that you want the phone to automatically take photo when there is a smiling face, for that get any of the OFFICIAL STOCK desire HD build with base of 1.84 or 2.50, id suggest the latest 2.0 from sbryan in NAND or an HD build from boxmaxx.
Rick_1995 said:
I really suggest you to get an English Tutor,
For now, i wonder why would you call it "Self Portrait" if you're using the Back cam.
After seeing the video, from what i come to understand is that you want the phone to automatically take photo when there is a smiling face, for that get any of the OFFICIAL STOCK desire HD build with base of 1.84 or 2.50, id suggest the latest 2.0 from sbryan in NAND or an HD build from boxmaxx.
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yeah ~ i am not English speaking people ,but i can read other people's posts carefully first .
i call this function "self-portrait" ,because the name of this setting option in camera is "self portrait" , named by HTC ,not me ,please check your phone yourself.
the original desire HD phone can take your photo just by putting your face to the rear camera no need any smiling expression . for the latest builds , i tried MMCCM v8 build ,this function can work , but phone is easy to die after taken several photos . boxmaxx i aslo tried 2 builds , the rom has this option , but dosent work . so now i just re-installed the RAFDROID HD 4.2.
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yeah ~ i am not English speaking people ,but i can read other people's posts carefully first .
i call this function "self-portrait" ,because the name of this setting option in camera is "self portrait" , named by HTC ,not me ,please check your phone yourself.
the original desire HD phone can take your photo just by putting your face to the rear camera no need any smiling expression . for the latest builds , i tried MMCCM v8 build ,this function can work , but phone is easy to die after taken several photos . boxmaxx i aslo tried 2 builds , the rom has this option , but dosent work . so now i just re-installed the RAFDROID HD 4.2.
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Yes i very well know that, own a DHD myself.
"self portrait" in HD2 forums is related to front camera as there is no front camera and there are many noobs asking for a FFC mod, also that feature of DHD is very new interms of software running on HD2, (on timescale of 2 years)
you could try pushing the camera libs and the apk itself from the rafdroid build to the froyosense build of your choice, its not necessary to be froyosense but just to mantain integrity as a failcheck.
I understand what the OP is talking about. And yes, I've used a few builds for sometime that allowed a self-portrait to be done easily. You'd just select face-detected camera shutter, select how many faces to be detected prior to the automatic shutter to be trigger and you're done. Like the OP said, it works with the rear facing camera (obviously you'd have to turn your phone around). Now, I've been using Sense 3.0 builds and I haven't bothered testing that feature. But as I recall the feature was working in quite a few Desire HD builds. It might just be me, but I found that feature somewhat buggy, as the focus didn't always work neatly. Still, I wouldn't be surprised If you found another non-sense camera app that had the same feature. Cheers.
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i tired lots build from this forum , but always meet the problem that camera cannot do portrait self .
some builds really looks nice , but once you use portrait self , then the phone died suddenly. or some builds can not do portrait self , when you turn on this mode in camera ,nothing happen when you press button .
i just wondering ... is there any builds can do portrait self ?
PS : dont tell me that hd2 hasnt the front camera .. see this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AsZd4sEC2Y
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I hadn't actually played around with the camera settings much until I spotted this thread.
It has some funky features, and the self portrait works.
I'm using [SD/Magldr] MccM HD V4.5 [DESIRE HD Sense] Perfect [kernel tyhung r5] but with the hastrain kernel so the data arrows flash.
So far I've been running it for a few months and battery use is good, and it's extremely stable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954030
Is there a working camera fix (mod) that will allow for changing compression settings in the camera as well as reduce the image processing which results in detail loss :?
I just bought the device and would love to be able to take better images - and I feel that this loss of details can be avoided. images at 5mpx should not be 500kb in any case and the details even on older devices with lower mpx show more details.
Maybe if there is a working fix people can also post sample shots to see how it really works. (ICS or GB)
Plus this mod could also be implemented in other roms later on so that more people can benefit.
Thanks
Take a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24147607
iONEx said:
Take a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24147607
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Just read through the entire thread + all the linked threads to that ...
as it seems compression is not the problem here ...
the camera drivers need to be altered or drivers from a better image producing device to be ported....
anyone has a progress on that :?
wbgenetic said:
Just read through the entire thread + all the linked threads to that ...
as it seems compression is not the problem here ...
the camera drivers need to be altered or drivers from a better image producing device to be ported....
anyone has a progress on that :?
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I don't know much but I think the drivers are proprietary and cannot be edited.
I guess we should wait for Sony to release the ICS update, maybe the camera will get better
Hope something could be adapted from another device even - better adapted to make good photos. Fingers crossed
Anyone tried updating to ICS? The camera quality has been improved. Now the image size is ~2mb i guess
Forget about driver replacing: if i understand correctly you mixed old methods for phones (for example K790i on platform db2020 etc.): changing acoustic, display, camera drivers. I just tryed all of this by myself in the past ^_^ In android smartphones there is only way to improve quality - change camera's APK file Because drivers for internal absolutelly incompatible between different devices. You can find everything you need on Apps section of our subforum
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Forget about driver replacing: if i understand correctly you mixed old methods for phones (for example K790i on platform db2020 etc.): changing acoustic, display, camera drivers. I just tryed all of this by myself in the past ^_^ In android smartphones there is only way to improve quality - change camera's APK file Because drivers for internal absolutelly incompatible between different devices. You can find everything you need on Apps section of our subforum
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so what are you suggesting ... : ?
how do we lose the over agressive post process sharpening etc ?
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so what are you suggesting ... : ?
how do we lose the over agressive post process sharpening etc ?
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we could, if best developers would focus on this, not new kernels and roms
but it seems no one is willing to focus on camera quality ;( i miss old days whan i had k750/w810
It may be possible to improve the photo quality output of the SK17, but I don't think it's going to do as well as some previous generation camera phones just due to the physics of it all.
If you take a look at the lens used on the SK17 vs. iPhone or even the X10 Mini Pro, you'll find the lens is smaller, as well as the aperture ect... This means a smaller image sensor which ultimately means lower PQ.
The only way it could match larger lenses would be if they had used more advanced image sensor technology such as EXMOR to improve sensor sensitivity or speed, as they did in the Xperia Ray. Unfortunately they didn't use this technology in the SK17 series of phones.
I'm hoping up coming newer versions of the phone will make use of both a larger lens as well as advanced sensor technology.
If you use a camera app. such as 360 camera, you can defeat the compression, but the pictures don't really look much better to me. The negligible improvement in PQ may be the reason why Sony implemented this level of compression in the first place, since the lens isn't able to deliver.
Mike
panamamike said:
It may be possible to improve the photo quality output of the SK17, but I don't think it's going to do as well as some previous generation camera phones just due to the physics of it all.
If you take a look at the lens used on the SK17 vs. iPhone or even the X10 Mini Pro, you'll find the lens is smaller, as well as the aperture ect... This means a smaller image sensor which ultimately means lower PQ.
The only way it could match larger lenses would be if they had used more advanced image sensor technology such as EXMOR to improve sensor sensitivity or speed, as they did in the Xperia Ray. Unfortunately they didn't use this technology in the SK17 series of phones.
I'm hoping up coming newer versions of the phone will make use of both a larger lens as well as advanced sensor technology.
If you use a camera app. such as 360 camera, you can defeat the compression, but the pictures don't really look much better to me. The negligible improvement in PQ may be the reason why Sony implemented this level of compression in the first place, since the lens isn't able to deliver.
Mike
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I partially agree with the sensor being small - hence output suffering quality - however I've had a nokia e50 long time ago with an even smaller lens at 1.3mpx which produced similar images (well sometimes) in terms of quality. I would be interested to see how the device performs without the crazy compression settings ... I have my feelings that output will improve vastly.
Btw on GB with camera ICS+ the images were very good actually - even though I wish they were not as compressed as they are - nothing else.
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we could, if best developers would focus on this, not new kernels and roms
but it seems no one is willing to focus on camera quality ;( i miss old days whan i had k750/w810
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I was using your 21.93 driver for my W810 and I believe you can do with camera everything you like, so get off your butt and start an investigation
ICS camera is much better for taking photos.. but when it comes to video camera, overall OS speed and experience.. ICS SUCKS!
any one got solution for improving stills quality in xperia mini/pro?
try this, the compression is reduced a bit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935982
najodleglejszy said:
try this, the compression is reduced a bit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935982
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ya m currently using that mod but still m not happy with the results.. i think its the camera lens and sensor sony used in xperia mini/pro
Hey guys,
I just saw some nice stuff that was did on the nexus7, like enabling 720p video recording with front cam.
Well, our beloved phone can do this without problems.
But the crap is, that the s3 has only 3 or 4 choosable resolutions, one is 1280x960, other 2 are more like squares, and the standart 640x480.
But actually I want to take picutures in 720p or 768p, what would be below the 2MP range. I know the phone is able to do it, since it does video recording i the same resolution.
Maybe someone can tell me, what file need to be modded to enable this?
I would try it.
with regards
alex
I bought my One x+ after trading in my old Desire HD. So far I'm finding that I liked the picture quality on the DHD more than on the OX+-- the colors were a bit more vivid and the pictures on the OX+ seem a bit oversaturated. My question is-- what determines the picture quality? Is it more the hardware or the software? The cameras on both phones is 8MP-- does the picture quality stem from differences in softare? If so, would it be possible to get the old camera sofware from the DHD? Or is it a ROM thing? Or is there more to it than that?
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I bought my One x+ after trading in my old Desire HD. So far I'm finding that I liked the picture quality on the DHD more than on the OX+-- the colors were a bit more vivid and the pictures on the OX+ seem a bit oversaturated. My question is-- what determines the picture quality? Is it more the hardware or the software? The cameras on both phones is 8MP-- does the picture quality stem from differences in softare? If so, would it be possible to get the old camera sofware from the DHD? Or is it a ROM thing? Or is there more to it than that?
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The One series is the first to use HTC`s imagesense. As such the images are quite compressed, assuming you are rooted, try flashing lypota`s mod camera or just use the attached media file. Both of these will set image quality to 100 (no compression) and increase video bitrate/mbps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35746341&postcount=175
lypota's awesome camera mod is a must.
Always comes down to the software and libraries, plus there's always a balance with sharpness/exposure which you should fiddle with as auto settings are garbage.
Eg at the SG4 and the Xperia Z, same 13mp Sony camera bsi module but very different results on auto settings.
I'm running Elegancia which I believe has Lypota's camera mod built into it, as for the other one, sounds tempting, but I take a lot of pics and I'm afraid if they were 3-9 megs a shot I'd fill up my memory card in no time haha. Might give it a whirl though. Still, on my DHD the pics were between .75 and 1.5 mb's on average and I just had to point and shoot with no tweaking of settings...oh well. Thanks for the suggestions.
Does anyone have any experience with Camera ZOOM FX? Would it be an improvement over what I have? (HTC Camera with Elegancia mods) Or would it be a supplement? Sorry for the noobness.