north american version? - Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I heard the htc hero passed the fcc with 850/1900 3g bands.
There is a retailer claiming that they have this version, but can anyone confirm if they are correct?

What retailer? I am very, very curious!

they confirmed that it didnt have the bands. Darn.

See this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545777&highlight=telus
Telus are going to release a umts 850 version in a month or two (fingers crossed). Its the Hero 130, the Euro version is the Hero 100 and the Sprint CDMA version is the Hero 200.

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Will HERO work in the US

If I get then phone overseas, and bring it back to the US, will it work here?
Yes, but you won't be able to use 3G.
evilxhwnd said:
Yes, but you won't be able to use 3G.
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Wow! i was thinking of getting the Hero but now that i know i cant use 3g. i dont want it n more...
I have a question though! im getting rid of my g1 and getting an htc magic from ebay!
Spec For Magic:
rom: 512mb
Ram: 288MB
Specs For G1:
Ram: 192MB
i want to have the Hero port on it. i currently have it on my g1 but its still a bit laggy and i dont have any widgets... whats the point???
so if i get the magic which has the same specs as the HTC Hero will the rom run fast with no lag at all cosidering it has 90Mb+ more ram than the g1???
minogue said:
Wow! i was thinking of getting the Hero but now that i know i cant use 3g. i dont want it n more...
I have a question though! im getting rid of my g1 and getting an htc magic from ebay!
Spec For Magic:
rom: 512mb
Ram: 288MB
Specs For G1:
Ram: 192MB
i want to have the Hero port on it. i currently have it on my g1 but its still a bit laggy and i dont have any widgets... whats the point???
so if i get the magic which has the same specs as the HTC Hero will the rom run fast with no lag at all cosidering it has 90Mb+ more ram than the g1???
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you could but it cant be the vodafone one as that has 192mb ram like the G1, it would have to be the full HTC one
cire253 said:
If I get then phone overseas, and bring it back to the US, will it work here?
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If you buy from T-mobile in UK, it should work in the US. I was told they use the same 1700/2100 bands that we do. Only Hero 100 has the 1700 band built in, so the regular Hero will not work for US 3G.
not quite.
All UK networks use the 2100 band. None of them use the 1700.
You'll have to wait and see if the american version out later in the year supports the ridiculous t-mob US bands.
UPDATE: HAve checked, and yes, the Hero100 IS the european version, cos thats what the one i have in my hand is. it has 900/2100 3G bands. NO 1700 at all.
The US version is the hero 130, which will have the 850 and 1900 that everyone GSM but T-mobile uses. again, no 1700.
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Yes, but you won't be able to use 3G.
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What's sad is that I would rather use the Hero, relying on EDGE and Wi-Fi than to resort to using the iPhone... LOL
rhedgehog said:
not quite.
All UK networks use the 2100 band. None of them use the 1700.
You'll have to wait and see if the american version out later in the year supports the ridiculous t-mob US bands.
UPDATE: HAve checked, and yes, the Hero100 IS the european version, cos thats what the one i have in my hand is. it has 900/2100 3G bands. NO 1700 at all.
The US version is the hero 130, which will have the 850 and 1900 that everyone GSM but T-mobile uses. again, no 1700.
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That's correct...... about UK networks. no 1700.
T-mobile is getting the Hero next year so will it go to AT&T or other operators first?
To the OP... the Magic that you are getting off ebay.... well that will be the same thing.... 3G won't work in the US unless you wait till Sept./Oct. when T-Mo US releases it.
I don't care much for 3G, it's a battery killer and I'm usually near wifi.
EDGE ftw!
As others have noted, Hero will only work on edge until the north american version with the 850/1900 3g bands are added.
Also, tmobile has recently said as of right now they have no future plans to release the hero.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/No-Hero-for-T-Mobile-USA-Customers-116241.shtml
jim_0068 said:
Also, tmobile has recently said as of right now they have no future plans to release the hero.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/No-Hero-for-T-Mobile-USA-Customers-116241.shtml
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That's something so stupid I cannot understand. Hero is awesome! It's like they want to sell less phones and have less customers. I would definitely buy one.. instead, I might have to get an unlocked UK one since I don't plan to change my carrier even if it comes to At&t US or Sprint.
tee aiy emm said:
That's something so stupid I cannot understand. Hero is awesome! It's like they want to sell less phones and have less customers. I would definitely buy one.. instead, I might have to get an unlocked UK one since I don't plan to change my carrier even if it comes to At&t US or Sprint.
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Wouldn't there be an unlocked US version when it's released here?
sorry
rhedgehog said:
not quite.
All UK networks use the 2100 band. None of them use the 1700.
You'll have to wait and see if the american version out later in the year supports the ridiculous t-mob US bands.
UPDATE: HAve checked, and yes, the Hero100 IS the european version, cos thats what the one i have in my hand is. it has 900/2100 3G bands. NO 1700 at all.
The US version is the hero 130, which will have the 850 and 1900 that everyone GSM but T-mobile uses. again, no 1700.
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So, since I was misinformed by T-Mo, I have a question of my own:
Will you be able to add the 1700 band with a software update, or does that require a hardware update through the mfg?
T-mobile AWS 3G using 1700 band will need hardware in the Hero to receive 1700 band. T-mo is making a big mistake here, they should go to hTc and get them to make a version of the HERO that would work with the T-mo 3G.
angr1112 said:
T-mobile AWS 3G using 1700 band will need hardware in the Hero to receive 1700 band. T-mo is making a big mistake here, they should go to hTc and get them to make a version of the HERO that would work with the T-mo 3G.
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So then T-Mobile would have both the Hero and the nearly feature-identical Magic at the same time? As much as I would have wished T-Mo to carry the Hero (very), the FCC passed the Hero with the AT&T 3G bands anyway.
jim_0068 said:
As others have noted, Hero will only work on edge until the north american version with the 850/1900 3g bands are added.
Also, tmobile has recently said as of right now they have no future plans to release the hero.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/No-Hero-for-T-Mobile-USA-Customers-116241.shtml
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so when is this going to be out... is anyone going to carry the Hero in the US in the next 6mo...? I want android phone really bad but I dont want to get locked in contract with a carrier that isnt doing to carry it.
zambezy said:
so when is this going to be out... is anyone going to carry the Hero in the US in the next 6mo...? I want android phone really bad but I dont want to get locked in contract with a carrier that isnt doing to carry it.
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You can buy the Canadian one and get 3G on AT&T.
evilxhwnd said:
You can buy the Canadian one and get 3G on AT&T.
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That's exactly what I was going to recommend, its $500 cad and $20 to unlock it. You just need someone from Canada to buy and ship it.

Where can I get/use Hero in U.S.?

I have had the g1 for some time now and its gettin pretty rough around the edges. I was wondering if it was possible to get a Hero in the U.S. and what service it would work under? thanks !
it would work under any GSM Carrier in the US! However 3G will not work on any carrier just edge...Have you tried ebay, ill sell you mine if you want! One week old.
you can buy it off expansys usa
http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=184575
however as you can see under the description it says "US 3G Data: No"
AT&T 3g
Looking into upgrading my at&t 8525 tytn which is due for an upgrade (close to getting an iphone 3gs 'til I found HERO). Any update or news on another release that would work in 3g?
I've spent hours searching ebay, amazon, expansys, etc. all of them only run HSDPA/UMTS 900 2100.
Is there an app to add 1900 for it to run on AT&T 3g or is that a ROM or hardware issue?
Thanks in advance.
mc7
minicoop7 said:
Looking into upgrading my at&t 8525 tytn which is due for an upgrade (close to getting an iphone 3gs 'til I found HERO). Any update or news on another release that would work in 3g?
I've spent hours searching ebay, amazon, expansys, etc. all of them only run HSDPA/UMTS 900 2100.
Is there an app to add 1900 for it to run on AT&T 3g or is that a ROM or hardware issue?
Thanks in advance.
mc7
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You can't magically add 1900 to it, it's a hardware thing. The Euro versions have 2100, so the best you're going to get is EDGE on AT&T or T-Mo USA. You'd think that the UNLOCKED model would be at least 1900/2100 HSDPA or something!!!
The Sprint-bound CDMA version is..well...CDMA, so not compatible with AT&T as well.
man, that sucks. is att usa the only country using 1900? that's another sucky one
minicoop7 said:
man, that sucks. is att usa the only country using 1900? that's another sucky one
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Nope Rogers/Fido in Canada the only GSM provider here has the same Frequencies as AT&T.
just baught a unlock hero today, and i love it... you dont need 3g... =]

Questions about AT&T 3G network settings

Hey guys, I just got my new HTC hero. I'm with AT&T now and having the unlimited 3G data plan. I setup the configurations of APN settings as following:
Access point: wap.cingular
Username: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
But I only see an "E" at the connection status which I believe indicates EDGE. Can anyone tell me how to get 3G work on this device?
Thanks a lot!!!
I didn't realise the hero was out in the us yet but if it is i don't know why and if it isn't out its because i don't think it surpports american 3g networks i think you can only get 2g.
Yes I got this phone out of the US.
So you mean there's no way at all to get 3G to work on this phone with AT&T or any other carriers?
In its current state the phone does not support the AT&T bands for 3g.
There are rumors of an AT&T version coming October 11th, that would support 3g.
European/Asian version of this phone does not work with US 3G. AT&T's 3G network requires the bands 850 & 1900, while T-mobile's 3G requires the bands 1700 & 2100. European/Asian version supports only the bands 900 & 2100.
Does this mean T-mobile 3G may work on this phone?
T-Mob's 3g should connect to this phone, if you could find a signal, haha.
http://www.androidauthority.com/index.php/2009/07/03/htc-hero-approved-by-the-fcc-with-att-3g/
Neither T-Mobile US nor AT&T will work with this phone for 3G. The only version of this phone that exists at the moment supports ONLY European 3G. There are rumors of the device coming to AT&T, but nothing confirmed. IF that happens, the new phones would work, but that wouldn't change the fact that the device you have will still only function on Edge.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it's true.
It's actually Sprint pal. Also, there was a picture for Tmobile also (this appears to be a rumor).
T-Mob uses the 2100 spectrum so i dont see why it wouldnt work.
And a CDMA and a GSM (With AT&T 3g bands) has gone through the FCC recently.
RBFG said:
T-Mob uses the 2100 spectrum so i dont see why it wouldnt work.
And a CDMA and a GSM (With AT&T 3g bands) has gone through the FCC recently.
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No, it won't work with t-mobile USA's 3G network.
Yes, T-mobile in Europe use the 2100 band for 3G so the Hero works. But T-mobile USA use 1700 and 2100 bands for 3G, and you need a phone that support BOTH bands to connect to its 3G network.
Unfortunately, unless T-mobile USA decides to carry this phone (and they have already said that they wouldn't), there won't be a version of Hero that support its 3G network. This is because T-mobile USA is the only carrier in the world that uses the 1700 band for 3G. You may ask why T-mobile uses different bands for 3G in different countries. This is more of a regulatory decision than a business decision. If you are interested, go read about those FCC spectrum auctions.
All in all, European/Asian version of the Hero won't work with any 3G network in the US. The product id of the European/Asian Hero is HERO100, it supports only the bands 900 and 2100 for 3G. There will be a North American version with product id HERO130 that supports the bands 850 and 1900. It will be released either on AT&T or on the Canadian carrier Rogers, because only these two carriers use these bands for 3G. Currently it is not know whether it will be on AT&T or Rogers, but that latter is more likely IMO. Finally, there will be a CDMA version, with product id HERO200, for Sprint. This is more or less confirmed to be coming in October.
T-mobile US 3G uses 1700 for down and 2100 mhz for uplink. So 2100 alone isn't enough as you need both directions to connect.
tsekh501 said:
No, it won't work with t-mobile USA's 3G network.
Yes, T-mobile in Europe use the 2100 band for 3G so the Hero works. But T-mobile USA use 1700 and 2100 bands for 3G, and you need a phone that support BOTH bands to connect to its 3G network.
Unfortunately, unless T-mobile USA decides to carry this phone (and they have already said that they wouldn't), there won't be a version of Hero that support its 3G network. This is because T-mobile USA is the only carrier in the world that uses the 1700 band for 3G. You may ask why T-mobile uses different bands for 3G in different countries. This is more of a regulatory decision than a business decision. If you are interested, go read about those FCC spectrum auctions.
All in all, European/Asian version of the Hero won't work with any 3G network in the US. The product id of the European/Asian Hero is HERO100, it supports only the bands 900 and 2100 for 3G. There will be a North American version with product id HERO130 that supports the bands 850 and 1900. It will be released either on AT&T or on the Canadian carrier Rogers, because only these two carriers use these bands for 3G. Currently it is not know whether it will be on AT&T or Rogers, but that latter is more likely IMO. Finally, there will be a CDMA version, with product id HERO200, for Sprint. This is more or less confirmed to be coming in October.
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Thanks! That was very informative, although it totally crushed my dreams of owning a Hero while remaining on the T-Mobile network.

European HERO vs American

I currently have a telus HTC HERO in black but i am selling that one and buying a white HTC HERO.
The white HERO that im looking to buy is a european model.
I looked at the HTC website to see if there was any difference between the two phones and i found this:
HSDPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz for Europe and 850/1900 MHz for USA.
So my question is will the european HERO work on canadian networks providers (FIDO, ROGERS)....would i have any issues with getting good signal connections and optimal speeds for 3G
thanks in advance
The Canadian GSM networks & AT&T in the US use a different 3G frequency than what GSM networks use in Europe & T-Mobile in the US. Due to this an European Hero on a Canadian network will not get 3G.
thank you for the quick reply.
I guess i will have to look for another seller.
Thanks again
Further, In Canada, networks like Bell and Telus are ONLY 3G, so without the North American 3G bands, you won't get any signal. I think Rogers has 2G, though. I'm not sure exactly which networks do and don't, but I know that at least some don't.
bjg222 said:
Further, In Canada, networks like Bell and Telus are ONLY 3G, so without the North American 3G bands, you won't get any signal.
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Umm, no....
As far as I know, the Bell and Telus joint network is 3G only. I don't know if the carriers have a deal to use EDGE from Rogers or areas not covered by 3G.
To the OP: Why don't you get a Hero from Telus? It's the same one as the European version, but works on the North American 3G band.
Soaa- said:
As far as I know, the Bell and Telus joint network is 3G only. I don't know if the carriers have a deal to use EDGE from Rogers or areas not covered by 3G.
To the OP: Why don't you get a Hero from Telus? It's the same one as the European version, but works on the North American 3G band.
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I dont like going on 3 year contracts so i buy my phones from resellers on craigslist. The seller specified that his HERO was from Europe so i wanted to find out if it would work. That was the only option at the moment but now I do have a Telus HERO that I bought from some other seller.
Thanks for the help btw.

850/1900 UMTS/HSPA Heros?

I'm looking for a (3G) 850/1900 HERO, to use with AT&T.
Wikipedia says that the US version of the HERO is like that.
But i have seen many contradictory information. Can anybody confirm, what versions are UMTS/HSPA 850/1900?
USA: 850/1900 ?
Europe: 900/2100 ?
Canada: ???/????? ?
Thanks.
OK, i found out this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580418 by searching, so it looks like:}
HTC Hero 130 (A6265): Telus: UMTS850, UMTS1900
HTC Hero 100 (A6262): TMobile G2: UMTS900, UMTS2100: T-Mobile G2
Do not care about Verizon Hero (CDMA800 / CDMA1900) and Sprint Hero (CDMA800, CDMA1900), cause they use CDMA.
Anybody else carries the A6265/130? Is this 100% reliable?

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