How often do the Google services sync? - Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've go a Hero and it's setup to sync my Calendar, Contacts and Mail. Unlike the iPhone, I haven't been able to find a setting for how often this sync happens?
Anyone know if there's a way to setup Push vs 15mins vs blah blah, or just how often it does it?
Thanks,
Stephen

nope, no settings.
it just does it when it needs to.
it's pseudo push....it seems to ping every so often in the background and only do a full sync when some changes have been made at one end or the other.
seems pretty quick on mine, i generally get emails within the minute. Plenty fast enough for anyone (lets face it, no-one needs their emails within 5 seconds, they just like to get arsey about it!)

Sure, I was just wondering whether (like on an iPhone) you could lengthen your battery life by setting the interval up a bit.

nope. you can turn it off, but that's it.
there are various apps in the market that can turn it on and off at various times, and may be able to simulate something like that by turning it on and off regularly....

rhedgehog said:
nope. you can turn it off, but that's it.
there are various apps in the market that can turn it on and off at various times, and may be able to simulate something like that by turning it on and off regularly....
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pls tell the names of those apps

try searching the market for 'sync' maybe?
Alternatively, check the older threads here for something like 'turn sync off at night'.
I cant remeber the name of the thread exactly, but there is one discussing this, and an app was found.

App "Locale" with Sync plugin (separate install) are great for turning sync on and off according to conditions like time, location, battery-level, etc.

henningl said:
App "Locale" with Sync plugin (separate install) are great for turning sync on and off according to conditions like time, location, battery-level, etc.
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Awesome. I knew someone here would know.

You can also set up the regular "mail" client (vs gmail) to pull in your data. This has a setting for how often it syncs.

yeah but that's only for mail, not for contacts and calendar as well.
But very good point for those who are only interested in email....

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[Q] double circular arrows on top display

I have these double circular arrows up top next to the H+. They are not spinning, just setting there. They don't seem to ever go away. Is this using data or what. Not sure what is causing. My phone is rooted with a few things frozen but nothing that has anything to do with syncing.
thanks for any help
It sure seems something is still syncing... You can test what it is by going into Settings ยป Accounts and disabling individual sync services for any accounts that have them.
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No, I only have the Moto Blur default account and there are no setting for that. It has a little lock by it. I don't use it, I use K9 mail program for all my email including google but in my System account there is my Yahoo account that is the default, locked account and a google account, neither of which have any setting at all.
deserthi said:
No, I only have the Moto Blur default account and there are no setting for that. It has a little lock by it. I don't use it, I use K9 mail program for all my email including google but in my System account there is my Yahoo account that is the default, locked account and a google account, neither of which have any setting at all.
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MotoBlur has sync settings in Settings > Data Manager > Data Delivery
live4nyy said:
MotoBlur has sync settings in Settings > Data Manager > Data Delivery
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Nope, I tried that and the arrows remain. Also, something strange I think. The arrows stay there even if I turn Airplane Mode on!
Sounds like a silly question, did you reboot?
I rebooted many times. I started removing apps so hopefully I could find it but each time I restarted those sync arrows came back. I also tried freezing every thing I could but no luck so today I unfroze everything and still couldn't get rid of them. Something was always trying to sync. I noticed that my battery life was shorter today so I did a factory data reset and now I am in the process of rooting it again and installing my apps again.
Thanks for all your help and I will be more careful and systematic this time but what I learned is that one needs to be careful about installing apps. Read the reviews first because some programs are memory hogs, some take over your system, etc.
I've only seen that when I started up this new phone.
I shall look for it. I really like my phone. Look at it often.
(Wow, that was nerdy.)
deserthi said:
I rebooted many times. I started removing apps so hopefully I could find it but each time I restarted those sync arrows came back. I also tried freezing every thing I could but no luck so today I unfroze everything and still couldn't get rid of them. Something was always trying to sync. I noticed that my battery life was shorter today so I did a factory data reset and now I am in the process of rooting it again and installing my apps again.
Thanks for all your help and I will be more careful and systematic this time but what I learned is that one needs to be careful about installing apps. Read the reviews first because some programs are memory hogs, some take over your system, etc.
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Yeah, the Atrix is still relatively new to the dev scene so most mods are going to have side effects. Basically, just be prepared to do some resets and such until something has been labeled "stable". I'm already on my second Atrix because I messed up the lights for the capacitive buttons and something went wrong with charging, it would always say it was charging even when unplugged. The problems even persisted after a factory restore. Luckily I was able to unroot it and bring it in for a new one before my 30 days was up.
When you see the "sync" icon there, you can go to:
Settings > Accounts > tap on an account, say Gmail.
If something is sync-ing, you'll see the sync-ing icon beside the checkbox for contacts/emails/calendar.
I know on mine, when it syncs with my google calendar, it takes a good 2 mins...odd considering i have less than 10 entries. lol.
I got curious why the sync icon was there for a while, so this was where I looked to figure out what was sync-ing.
Download os monitor and look sort by load. See what is taking up the load and that is your rogue syncing app. Likely it is stuck on a google contact that is corrupted (if acore is your issue in os monitor)
i had the same icon on my notification and i froze account sync and calendar sync, it was killing my battery around 10% per hour. the icon went away after a reset and i have no idea what caused it. looking in titanium i saw an app called SyncML 2.2.1 that has a similar icon but i have no idea if its the app thats responsible, still froze it.

[Q] gtalk won't stop auto loggin in

My Google talk is not set to "Automatically sign in" however, when I open the app it signs in automatically.
Just curious if anyone has a possible fix?
Thanks!
mcmackk said:
My Google talk is not set to "Automatically sign in" however, when I open the app it signs in automatically.
Just curious if anyone has a possible fix?
Thanks!
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"Automatically sign in" is for signing i automatically when the fone starts or when connectivity is established.
it is not like a desktop application since the app is linked to the gmail account on your fone.
alternatively you can choose nimbuzz as an IM client if you dont want to sign in always with the same credentials..
The one thing I was trying to do was make it so it doesn't show that I am always available. No matter if I log out or kill the app it always shows that I am available on gtalk.
Is there a solution to this?
Have you considered meebo or another app instead of using talk? I don't use chat apps but it might do what you are looking for.
I use ebuddy, but that is besides the point.
Here is the thing- since the gtalk is set up with the original google account (the one when you originally set up the phone) it does not let you delete that account off gtalk. But on top of that, no matter what I do i.e. sign out or kill the gtalk app (and even if it shows gtalk is not running), it always shows that I am available and never truly logs me out.
So with the original google account on the phone, I am now always available on gtalk and I can never log out- just really bothers me. Anyone have solution?
Thanks
Looks like the always available is an ongoing problem, I haven't found a solution yet...
http://www.google.com/support/forum...95&fid=704e8609f17cb6950004880a46add745&hl=en
Got it so ebuddy is no longer holding my gtalk hostage (I no longer show always available). I used the solution at the end of this forum:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Talk/thread?tid=6e766898da809d6c&hl=en

Specify interval for Google Auto-sync?

Perhaps I am missing something obvious but is there a way to specify the interval in which Active-sync updates? I am pretty sure this is a push service but it would be great to be able to have Active-sync only update once every X hours.
i dont think you can do this, outside of turning off your data and turning it back on periodically for the phone to re-sync/update.
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i dont think you can do this, outside of turning off your data and turning it back on periodically for the phone to re-sync/update.
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Thank you for the reply. I wish we could set an interval. I am having some wake locks issues with Event Log Manager (Google Services). Turning off Active-sync solved the issue but now I am not getting calendar updates, etc. Perhaps I can use Tasker to set a schedule when I turn on and off Active-sync?
The exchange activesync let you chose sync schedules. But the GMail sync doesn't. I wish there is such option not for sync every x hours (which does not necessary save battery) but to turn off sync at night.
foxbat121 said:
The exchange activesync let you chose sync schedules. But the GMail sync doesn't. I wish there is such option not for sync every x hours (which does not necessary save battery) but to turn off sync at night.
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I am curious why you think having Activesync work on schedule wouldnt necessarily save battery? In my case, Active-sync is causing quite a bit of wake lock which drains the battery. I imagine putting this task on a schedule instead of having an "always on" connection should save battery, unless of course the app needed to schedule this consumes more battery or if the very act of starting up Active-sync consumes more battery....oh man this isnt as clear cut to me as I originally thought!
In terms of you want to do, you could use a profile scheduler program to turn off Active-sync at night. I use and app called "Profile Scheduler".
push sync actually works pretty efficiently. More so than polling for emails every so often. I have 4 accounts (one GMail, one corp. exchange and 2 hotmail accounts) all use push sync for emails, contacts and calendars. It uses no more than 2% battery per hour.
Unless you stretch out the schedule to once or twice a day, you won't see much battery improvements.
All I wanted is silent the phone automatically during my sleep at night And so far Gmail is the only one that won't let me do it
foxbat121 said:
push sync actually works pretty efficiently. More so than polling for emails every so often. I have 4 accounts (one GMail, one corp. exchange and 2 hotmail accounts) all use push sync for emails, contacts and calendars. It uses no more than 2% battery per hour.
Unless you stretch out the schedule to once or twice a day, you won't see much battery improvements.
All I wanted is silent the phone automatically during my sleep at night And so far Gmail is the only one that won't let me do it
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I'm guessing they get tons of email or something. If you really get so much email that both push and pull styles are killing battery then perhaps you should turn any form of sync off. It's not the phone's fault though, that's just how the cookie crumbles!
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smallmachine.autosync2
(I don't know whether I got you wrong or right!)

New Google account sync options?

I noticed that recently some new Google account sync options have appeared in Android. Take a look at the attached screenshot.
I now see the following listed as sync options:
- Cloud Print
- Game Data
- Game Data
- Google Play services
- Location Reporting and Location History
- Push subscriptions
- YouTube
These all have parenthesis in front of them unlike the regular sync options. I know most of these services were already active before they showed up here. But now I'm just curious why they are here and if this has happened to anyone else. Is there anything else I need to know about this? And also what is "Push subscriptions"?
Same here, don't know what's these doing, I just simply disable all of them, as I don't think I had any thing need to sync with these * options.
What is really annoying is that "push subscriptions" cannot be turned off manually. It starts up now and then.
wondertx said:
What is really annoying is that "push subscriptions" cannot be turned off manually. It starts up now and then.
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I agree it's damn irritating. For me it seems to start up again every time I reboot and since I flash CM nightlies I reboot my phone almost everyday.
You mean they are restored only after reboot. That's far better than me. Cus no reboot is needed
push subscriptions / gmail sync
i have turned off sync push subscriptions but found that gmail then stopped with pushing emails (only manual refresh worked - autocync on, mobile data on, no restrictions). setting back on sync of push subscriptions recovers gmail push sync and now all emails are syncing immediately...
hqs anyone figured out what "sync push subscriptions" is? I turn mine off, then they automatically turn back on, and I dont even reboot?
Same problem here... some sync options automatically turn on, if any sync option is enabled. Any solution to this?

Question GMAIL

Does anyone else have an issue with Gmail notifications? Most of the time I receive no notifications about new email until I unlock the phone. Even then they do not always come in quickly. When I open the Gmail app they do come in.
Yes, they will "eventually" come in on their own but way later than they should. I have done every battery/data optimization/exception I can think of and find. This should NOT be happening in 2021! This is not a OnePlus phone and even then my 8T is not this bad. Also, the notification LED does not activate for Gmail while it does for Messages and WhatsApp. I have gone through every possible notification setting on the phone as well as for the Gmail app itself and made sure that using the LED was selected on them all. I hate that Gmail is installed as a system app! WHY???
Another interesting things is that Gmail is NOT listed as the default app. It is not even there as a selection. Messages is installed as a system app and it is listed as the default. WHY?
I am liking the phone, but not receiving notifications for such an essential feature as email is NOT GOOD!
The phone is causing Gmail to go into deep sleep when the screen is locked unnecessarily.
I may have found the solution. To start I went into Settings > accounts just to double check that the toggle for "Automatically sync app data" was turned on and it was. While in the same screen I tapped on my email account and then tapped on "Account sync", Here you can do a manual sync of all the various apps associated with your Google account. SO I tapped on the 3 dots in the top right and tapped on "Sync now" and the only thing that synced immediately was Contacts and maybe one other (can't remember which one. No matter how many times I would retry to do a manual sync the same thing would happen.
So I closed all of this out and went directly into the Gmail app > settings and chose my email account and scrolled down to "Sync Gmail" under the "Data usage" section and unchecked this setting. I rebooted the phone, went back into Gmail > settings my email and re-checked the "Sync Gmail" selection, rebooted again and went back into Settings > accounts > my email account > account sync and all the various apps listed in this section had now synced properly. I could tell by the time stamp for each one. I also did a manual sync again and everything in the list synced up within about 10 seconds! I was happy. I locked my phone, set it down, and within a minute or two I received several emails and the notification chime went off. I'm still not sure if the notification LED lit up or not but I think it did. Hopefully this fixes the issue.
Sometimes it isn't what is selected but the order in which you select things so as not to cause a conflict.
This is one area of Android that I think needs improvement (Samsung is the worst for this) that there are too many settings that seem redundant, counter intuitive, and conflict with one another.
Well, after writing all the previous entries I am still having the same issues with Gmail. On my OnePlus 8T every morning shortly after logging in my emails would come in without any prompting on my part. With my Xperia 1 iii I received NOTHING until I actually opened the Gmail app itself and sure enough there were about 5 emails that popped up! Something is very wrong here. I am not looking forward to a factory reset but I may have no choice. I will say this: If after a factory reset Gmail is still unresponsive I will definitely be sending this thing back!
Can confirm that there is something wrong with gmail. Just gmail. Ive tried 3rd party email apps and they work.
Totally understandable that you would prefer gmail over others. I too would actually prefer my gmail to work. I hope this is fixed in a firmware update.
hotcakes_shinku said:
Can confirm that there is something wrong with gmail. Just gmail. Ive tried 3rd party email apps and they work.
Totally understandable that you would prefer gmail over others. I too would actually prefer my gmail to work. I hope this is fixed in a firmware update.
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Exactly! I decided to NOT do a factory reset because I feel that it would not help. Instead I just disabled Gmail and installed Bluemail. It has more settings than I care to mess with but at least all my email notifications arrive properly! I am glad that I am not the only one this is happening to. Is there some way to inform Sony directly that they have a problem? I liked it better when Gmail was a Play Store install! I DO NOT like it when ANY apps are installed as a service!
I chatted with Sony Tech support. They went through all the usual settings that I already tried several times. They escalated it so we will see what happens. One thing I have noticed, which may be relevant or not, is that with Blue Mail installed when I do get an email both Gmail and Blue Mail give a notification????
To me it sounds like you just need to whitelist the app in your battery saving settings.
aapok98 said:
To me it sounds like you just need to whitelist the app in your battery saving settings.
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Please, while I can appreciate the suggestion, do you think I did not already go through every possible setting and permutation in an attempt to resolve this issue? I am a retired IT Systems Engineer and I have used cell phones for so long it's not even funny. Not to mention there are others experiencing the exact same thing! However, I was forced to do a factory reset this morning so "maybe" things will start to work properly.
I have exact Gmail notification issue when I got my X1iii but the issue resolved after I upgraded to 61.0.A.11.92 this morning. After switched off Gmail sync off and on and turn on the notification on individual labels, the notification was back.
It might be the previous firmware used a bad GMSCore. My device is a XQ-BC62. BTW the install step 3 did take some time but my phone didn't stuck at that step and it went through.
I have different problem with gmail notifications. For some reason notifications are always coming when in the evening I plug in my phone for charging. After a moment gmail notifications are coming. And this happens all the time.
??? Sony?
Guys please treat everyone with respect.
We are here to help each other and exchange our experience. Not to offend each other.
Thank you.
I have had a few days now with the last update = .92 and so far it appears as if my Gmail notifications are coming in exactly as they should when the phone is locked. For sure much better than before the update. So whatever Sony did in this update (besides the security update) is working for me. The LED is also lighting up properly for Gmail! Good job Sony!
Gmail still does not sync automatically for me on the .92 update. Factory reset and it works for a bit but once after a while it stops. No amount of uninstalling GMS updates or clearing its data will get it working again, so I have no idea what happened.
darwinmach said:
Gmail still does not sync automatically for me on the .92 update. Factory reset and it works for a bit but once after a while it stops. No amount of uninstalling GMS updates or clearing its data will get it working again, so I have no idea what happened.
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Have to ask...you did give Gmail unlimited data? Also, you did set Gmail to "excepted" in battery settings?
Even the most experienced sometimes miss things.
jaseman said:
Have to ask...you did give Gmail unlimited data? Also, you did set Gmail to "excepted" in battery settings?
Even the most experienced sometimes miss things.
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Just to be sure, I went through and double checked that Gmail, Google Play Services, and Google Services Framework all had:
* Battery/Power-saving Feature: Excepted
* Unrestricted data: Enabled
Still didn't resolve my sync issues
Did you try this: settings > accounts > tap your email google account > account sync > has everything synced fairly recently? Any of them appear to be stuck, not spinning? Top right 3 dots sync now, does everything finish syncing?
Just adding that I noticed this problem after the .92 update. I'm not sure if its there before. So the .92 didn't solve the issue on my end, glad it solved yours.
aapok98 said:
I haven't had issues with gmail but I have had the kind of issues described in OP with other phone models and similar apps and the cause was a bit too eager battery optimization settings so I honestly thought it was the cause here too.
If it was not, then it is a shame I couldn't help.
But as a response to your comment: No. I don't think people here are idiots. I just think you are one.
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You make it sound like you think people are idiots because as already mentioned in the FIRST POST, he already excepted his apps from battery optimization. If you still ask people if they have done so, you obviously think we are idiots, since you ask a question that has already been answered. Grow up please.
Edit: Here let me quote it for you:
I have done every battery/data optimization/exception I can think of and find.
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Testing out a potential fix which seems to be working for now.
I found out that my phone backup isn't working either. Manually pressing the button, the backup keeps telling it failed and asks me to try again later. Searching online, there are some that suggest to remove the screen lock to see if backup starts working again.
After I removed my screen lock, I cleared cache/storage of Google Play Services, Google Services Framework and Gmail. Then I rebooted my phone and left it a while to let it fully boot. I can now backup my phone, and I am getting my Gmail notifications. Now I am observing to see if this is permanent..
If the fix is permanent, at least on my end, it seems that Sony's build of android has buggy encryption. This was an issue with other brands too.
Update on my problem. Firstly, after trying the above, I noticed a few days later that in general I wasn't getting notifications from anything. I concluded that I messed up Google Services too much and therefore factory reset my phone.
After that and readding my google account, My notifications was fixed, except Gmail still wasn't getting notifications, but phone backup started working. I was about to give up and use another email app, when today the September security update arrived in 61.0.A.14.3 update. Being desperate to try anything I updated without hesitation.
This seems to fix the problem and I am getting my gmail notifications.
Not getting my hopes up too much and just continue monitoring but I hope this the end of my google problems.

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