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in the opinion of everyone that reads this post i want to see what the best firmware is for the touch pro, everyones input is welcome...i plan on flashing my first rom very soon...the stock rom seems unstable and rough
i have only seen a couple available but am interested in this as well. Especially the Fuze rom.
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in the opinion of everyone that reads this post i want to see what the best firmware is for the touch pro, everyones input is welcome...i plan on flashing my first rom very soon...the stock rom seems unstable and rough
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It's unlikely you'll get an answer to that without telling for what country/network... That is unless you don't use it as a phone
I'm looking for a ROM that is fast in performance and also ROMs that are good on battery life.
Any suggestions?
Currently, I'm using NATF's 2.3 ROM, so this one is pretty early. I don't like to flash ROMs too often, because I have to get in there and load in the files that my phone previously had and I find that to be a pain...right now,
id also like to know your guys's opinions too. i posted this same kind of thread last week and it got shut down by one of the mods... its ok though.
like im having a hard time finding one i want, that has good features+quality+speed and whatnot..
you guys know what i mean?
You can flash a rom pretty fast. I have test most of the roms but what i want and like in a rom may be different then what you want and like. Try all of them and see what you like.
Man you are gonna get so many different answers. It's really up to your preference. Try a few and see what suits you, use PIM Backup or Spb Backup so you don't lose anything. I flash ROMs later at night when I usually don't get much coming into my phone during the few minutes of down time.
The reason we are quick to close "whats the best xxxx" threads is because it usually depends on an individuals opinion on the "best xxxx".
As with most threads of this nature it usually ends up in a poorly backed up argument over a few users who wont back down from the argument.
I'll leave this open for now but should this thread fall into that situation its gonna be locked.
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The reason we are quick to close "whats the best xxxx" threads is because it usually depends on an individuals opinion on the "best xxxx".
As with most threads of this nature it usually ends up in a poorly backed up argument over a few users who wont back down from the argument.
I'll leave this open for now but should this thread fall into that situation its gonna be locked.
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can we have a post just a pool which is your favorite ROM, without any comment or reply?
I've tried almost all the ROM here, and still very intrigued on knowing which ROM is the most used. Also it would help other to give other ROM a chance.
The correct answer is : there is no best ROM.
Or if there is, no one has ever seen it yet. (And it is a build of WinMo7)
Each rom is customized to however the chef desires. That could match your desires exactly, it could not. This, combined with the individual skill and dedication of the amazing chefs to work out bugs, maximize tweaks and release updates, is what makes up if a rom is good or not.
It is your own self who defines good, however.
In terms of battery life:
You will find it will vary a little from rom to rom, naked and manila-free roms usually outperforming the rest. However, if you are truly looking for performance differences, try out a few different radios. Those have an actual large bearing on signal stregnth and battery life.
What roms have I used:
Quick history
Stock ATT Fuze rom + Reg tweaks + manila tweaks - (1-2 days)
ROMeOS (1-2 weeks)
Elite RC2 (1 month)
RRE (2-3 weeks)
ROMeOS (1-2 days)
I dont give version numbers since I choose a rom track and stick with it through the updates. Meaning I flashed all the updated versions to ROMeOS until switchted to RC2, then I did the same thing with RRE. Made it kind of difficult when it was jumping 4.x seemingly daily
Either way, they all performed great, just better in certain areas. Currently I am very happy with the current ROMeOS rom. However, I am eyeballing RC3 and actually considering testing out a few things on the stock att rom once again.
My input!
Well, I’ll take a stab at this. Sounds like you’re in the boat I was in just a few weeks ago, so I’ll try and give as unbiased opinion about the ROM I choose as possible. Because let’s be honest here, there is NO BEST ROM. From what I can tell, all the ROMs in XDA are well though out, and clearly have a lot of hard work invested in them, typically by freelance developers. So they definitely deserve a “Tip of the Hat” as far as all their hard work is concerned.
I actually started out knowing little to nothing about ROM flashing. So naturally I started at Flashing your First GSM Raphael Rom thanks mskip! I was fortunate enough to have had a friend that flashed his Tilt and explained to me the joys of flashing a non-stock ROM to clear up all the bloat ware that’s normally shipped with them. I had a lot of time between when I had ordered my Fuze and receiving it, so that gave me an edge in researching what I though was going to be the best ROM for me ( operative word here, ME ). Because as mrvanx pointed it, the “best” ROM is purely subjective based on the user.
I looked at pretty much all the most heavily posted on/used forums. Read what people had to say about the ROM, the problems they were experiencing, the pro/cons and overall just tried to get the best gist of what people thought about the ROM’s performance.
I looked at Lantis, NATF V4, PROven, Elite RC2 ( also RC3 ), ROMeOS^2, Da_G Clean, DCS-TouchPro-v15, TouchXperience (not yet released) and finally T.i.R. v10 R + P.D.M. 4.1. There’s many others that I’ve not mentioned, not because their any less worthy but because I just didn’t run across them in my search.
Let me say this off the bat. ALL of the above listed were in my opinion amazing looking ROMs. There were things I liked about all of them, and also things that concerned me as far as some of the problems that people were experiencing with them. That said, I realize ( as should everyone ) there will always be problems with the ROM you choose. Even the stock ROM that AT&T subjects you too is going to have problems.
What was I looking for in a ROM? User ability, overall speed and response of TF3D, the programs installed/removed from stock and the look and feel of the TF interface. I was also looking for which ROM I felt had still retained all the functions of the stock ROM with out the added useless software. PPT for instance, I didn’t need, so why would I want a ROM that has it installed, using vital memory when I’m never going to use it?
In the end, I chose T.i.R. v10? Why? The reason may surprise you, because it was blue. Yeah, I know, it’s a dumb reason, but hey, that’s my reason; well at least it’s what initially attracted me. But additionally, it encompassed what the other ROMs had as far as TF3D was concerned, used a minimum amount of memory ( not the best utilization mind you, look to Da_G Clean build for that ). Still retained functions like the FM radio, Quick GSP, Opera 9.5, easy task manager, youtube, ZIP, Labyrinth ( what? The game is addicting! ), G-Sensor Calib, enhanced Camera functions and etcetera. But overall, what I liked the most was the look and feel of TF3D in blue and the new icons.
It really was a toss up between T.i.R., Lantis and PROven. They all had features I liked, but like I said, T.i.R. was a little more unique in it’s graphics. Is T.i.R. the best? No, like I said, what’s best for one, is not going to be best for another. But I like it, and I’m resilient to flash something else at the moment because nothings broke yet, so no need to fix it! Overall, the T.i.R. team did a great job with the visuals and keeping TF3D fast. Clearly faster then the stock ROM, and far cleaner as far as third apps are concerned. It did not have a slid to answer feature, but I found a separate CAB file for that.
Overall, they’re all going to have their strong points and weak points and it’s all a matter of what you find most appealing and how you use your phone on a daily basis. Something’s you may find essential may be features like slide to answer and the in call guard screen. And obviously the keyboard fix if you’re a Fuze user.
I hope that give you, and others, a little insight about what to look for and how to choose. Research, flash and try it. If it doesn’t fit flash something else. Hopefully others join in with what they’ve experienced in flashing. What they like and dislike. (^_^) Bare in mind, the more feed back we leave, the better.
yup, Plazma pretty much covered all the bases!
1 thing that wasn't mentioned is that some ROMS contain some programs that others don't. But people here are more than welcome to supply you with a .cab that will take care of that for you.
Hands Down SSK 1.5 his rom runs smoother and is more stable than any other rom i have flashed including Juicy 4.13, MightyRom4.13, Juggalo's Newest and many more. I know this is just my personal favorite you should try it!!!
energyrom 2.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481402
look at 2nd post. has the new tp2 manilla also. pretty stable and smooth
Quite surprisingly I couldnt find a thread like this, though it is a very interesting one for newbies... I tested Proven Manila HD and Panosha Pro 1.0. I must admit that of the two Proven is better and overall reeeeally nice. Both in terms of graphics/icons and speed and addon apps. I wonder if there is any other ROM worth testing. I repeat: my criteria is:
a) speed
b) stability
c) nice and usefull apps but not too many
d) nice looking and working TF3D (can be HD or TP2).
Any ROM with known issues or bugs that cant be overcome and are important are not fit for me...
Any ROM candidates for testing then to challenge Proven?
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Quite surprisingly I couldnt find a thread like this, though it is a very interesting one for newbies... I tested Proven Manila HD and Panosha Pro 1.0. I must admit that of the two Proven is better and overall reeeeally nice. Both in terms of graphics/icons and speed and addon apps. I wonder if there is any other ROM worth testing. I repeat: my criteria is:
a) speed
b) stability
c) nice and usefull apps but not too many
d) nice looking and working TF3D (can be HD or TP2).
Any ROM with known issues or bugs that cant be overcome and are important are not fit for me...
Any ROM candidates for testing then to challenge Proven?
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the link above is what you want. its awsome. ive tested a few roms and this is a rom with alot of new fetures. 8/10
It’s really all about preference. I have tested out almost every ROM that has been posted in the past two months and they are all nice but I keep going back to RRE ROMs. Here is the thread for the newest build: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488781
Mine of course
Another vote for Energy
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energyrom 2.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481402
look at 2nd post. has the new tp2 manilla also. pretty stable and smooth
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Another vote for Energy 2.0 - this rom rocks - very fast and stable despite the new TF3d still not being totally ported.
I've been using Energy since I got my Fuze, the latest I have is 1.5, no tf3d, and my memory usage at boot is 150mb free. That is just amazing. I have been into pointui2, it seems to slow after awhile, and has some bugs, but is much prettier and more useful than tf3d. Once the community over at pointui.com gets into it, it may be the best homescreen plugin. On my tilt I used Gsmart touch, and loved it. I need to try a few others, but am a tweak hog and the least memory used normally wins for me.
First off let me just say that this forum is great and very informative. With that being said I know that there are a lot of great Rom Chefs that come up with some excellent Rom choices. What I want to know is with so many excellent choices available and so many great chefs coming up with new stuff all the time what made you or what helped you decide which one you were going to use? It doesnt seem like you can go wrong no matter which one you pick but what was it about a paticular Rom that made you decide this is the one for me?
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First off let me just say that this forum is great and very informative. With that being said I know that there are a lot of great Rom Chefs that come up with some excellent Rom choices. What I want to know is with so many excellent choices available and so many great chefs coming up with new stuff all the time what made you or what helped you decide which one you were going to use? It doesnt seem like you can go wrong no matter which one you pick but what was it about a paticular Rom that made you decide this is the one for me?
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really this question is asked quite often but at the end it really boils down to your individual preference. I like alot of different chef's so for me it is extremely hard to stick to one rom for more than a few days... Yes i admit i am a rom flashing junkie ..
I would list some chefs but than that would be discriminating to all the other chefs whos roms i love equally.
It really is a hard thing to pin point your choice to one rom especially for me.
Stability, stability, stability. Repeat after me: Stability.
If something doesn't work, it's not something I'll use. I always check the ROM threads to see how stable something is before I try it. Other than that, I look at which apps are included and which aren't - added bloat that you can't remove is a pain. Likewise if there's a lot of apps you have to add manually that normally should have been included. UC compatibility is a must, regardless.
It is more than understood that the questio, what is the best ROM for my phone? Does not have a valid, absolute, answere. Its more of a whatever suits your needs.
But since the question still remains, and one can easily tell if a ROM is popular by the hits and posts on its corresponding thread. I think that a POLL where people simply say what is their favorite ROM and why, could be of some general help.
So in simple words just vote for your favorite ROM and if you want to, explain why it is your favorite ROM.
This is not a discussion or debate, its a POLL
I Will add your nominees to the POLL as soon as you start posting
My Fuze lost its virginity to NATF, had an affair with Chrome but in the end got married to EnergyRom. Much thanks to all of the Chefs and their hard work keeping us happy!
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My Fuze lost its virginity to NATF, had an affair with Chrome but in the end got married to EnergyRom. Much thanks to all of the Chefs and their hard work keeping us happy!
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^ that pretty much sums up my story haha
Hey guys, a little help, this is the first time I start a poll, i limited it to 15 option but could only think of 2 when I started, how can I add Chrome series? Does a moderator have to do that or as the started of the thread I have to possibility to modify it?
Also could be useful to post as well as you probably did on the ROMS corresponding thread, what Radio seems to work good with your ROM. I like the EnergyROM + 1.14.25.35 Radio
You pretty much have to include all the polling options before people start voting, otherwise it would skew your results anyways...You could have just gone down the first two pages of the ROM development board, and found over a dozen discrete ROMs, FWIW.
FWIW, I do prefer NRG ROMs, but only slightly. All of the most recent crop of Raphael ROMs seem to be cut from the same cloth. The only really interesting new ROM I've seen recently is the one from twopumpchump, and that's really only interesting to me because he pre-packaged a $#!+-load of CHome Panels into the ROM, to make 6.5 a little more feature-rich. At the end of the day, the functionality of even this different-looking ROM is pretty much the same as all other 6.5 ROMs. When I want maximum bang for home-screen action, I still revert to TF3D.
Show me a ROM with an actual unique and functional interface (and I'm not asking anyone to cook in a paid solution like spb mobile), and I will be your biggest spokes-hole ever. Until then, I'll sit on what I've already got.
IMHO,
You poll will only provide value if you first create a checklist (criteria) by which to base the poll on. For example, the first post of the thread should list the functionality/features that one should use to make an informed POLL selection. Example sections could be:
Battery Consumption (1=poor, 5=great)
_ During call
_ During standby
_ During Wi-Fi
- During BT
Interface Speed (1=poor, 5=great)
_ Using TF3D
_ Using Native Mobile UI
Ease Of Use (1=poor, 5=great)
_ Shortcut (app) location
...
etc.
Once you create a comprehensive selection list, it would be necessary to shortlist the ROM's in the actual POLL. For example:
_ Energy 6.1 Std
_ Energy 6.1 Pro
_ Energy 6.5 Pro
_ NATF 4.0
_ NATF 4.5
...
etc.
Ok, I didnt have that in mind, Should I start a new one?
I don't know if I like the idea of this poll. I was on one for a while, I went back to the other, I may try another.. Shouldn't signatures be enough? I like how the chefs do this because they like doing it, and I'd hate to see a popularity contest create any bad blood or jealous feelings.
The other more important thing is that the ROMS are changing all the time, and the 'best' one today may not be that tomorrow...
One thing about a poll like this being up on this forum is that newcomers may just buy their Raphael, come and see this, and pick the leading ROM without looking into the issue in depth, lurking on the different forums, or trying ROMS for themself. I'm glad I actually tried different ROMs instead of getting my loyalty immediately hooked on a favorite.
EDIT: It would however be a lot more scientific/harmless/useful if done as hilaireg suggested, feature by feature. Some ROMS are optimized for speed, some for battery.. some are flashy, some are barebones.
Ok, I agree with burnblue, I have pretty much tried every WinMo6.5 ROM out there, and for the meanwhile stuck with my personal favorite. I'd though that since there are a few radio polls why not make a ROM one just to see what people think about the ROMs they like. And it is clearly stated, this is not for discussions or flaming. It is of popular knowledge that ROMs are created to serve different needs therefore opinions are 100% subjective and not by any means objective. I will post a new thread tonight having in mind all the parameters mentioned above to improve the objectivity of the poll itself.
All suggestions are welcomed and if the majority think that such poll is of poor taste or will start "a popularity contest create any bad blood or jealous feelings." I will not post a new poll and request a moderator to remove this one as well.
I dont feel it would be a terrible idea since it could potentially reduce the number of new threads just to ask the same question. At least if there were one thread kept open questions could be sent to that thread
That said, I think my favorite ROM is Chrome , but also enjoyed Energy and NATF when I used them. They all have their strengths and weaknesses and like its been said one ROM could be the greatest for me, but be the worst for you just depending on personal preference. I prefer TF3D over Titanium, so do not put any extra plugins in titanium anymore. With the use of UC, SASHIMI, or any other user customization program you can have whatever plugins you want withiout installing them individually or using software to disable plugins you dont use.
RRE rocks!!!
I vote that we close the poll. Who cares if there are disenfranchised voters? The exit polls show a strong bias for switching ROMs. We'd then have to face the legal battles between NRG, NATF, and others. They'd want a recount and take it all the way to moderators! CLOSE THE POLLS!!!!
(Just joking here - couldn't resist0
IMO this is kinda silly...I have used everyone’s ROMs and I could vote for who’s is the best right now....but then I would not be able to take my vote back if another ROM caught my eye...so to me that makes this poll silly…can we just agree that everybody has their own needs and preferences and that the work done by all of the chefs is appreciated with out having to vote?
I will only vote if there is an option for undecided or all...because who know what the future holds...
i see how elite project roms arent featuring here. i wish they would not sticky their roms in toe forum... not many people care for their roms it seems.
I dont want to be a total idiot, but can such thing be arranged with a moderator? Like you have only one vote but it can be changed every so many days? and new nominees be updated? Is that possible in a thread powered by vBulletin?
I like RRE.
i want to thank all cheifs. and enjoy testing all of them
I dont want to be a total idiot, but can such thing be arranged with a moderator? Like you have only one vote but it can be changed every so many days? and new nominees be updated? Is that possible in a thread powered by vBulletin?
Don't you think that you can determine the popularity of the roms just by looking at the number of posts in the rom threads? Or the number of posts per day? There aren't many 3,000+ post rom threads out there filled with hate-mail. Just looking at the current poll, you're looking at ~8:1 ratio favoring one of the roms. Take a look at the ratio of posts for the two roms (ok, nrg has a ton of threads). It's something like 3,500:500, which is what you would expect.
(If request threads are frowned upon, my apologies. Feel free to delete or move this thread.)
Are there others of you out there that would appreciate a ROM that is a phone / PDA first and lotsa colorful graphics left to a minimum?
Here's why I ask. I've recently been looking at the reviews of the new HTC PURE (AT&T.) Looking at its TF3D screens my first reaction was, "I dig the blue theme, but man those mono color sliders sure look boring! The ROMs at XDA sure have better graphics!"
That was, however - a short lived reaction. . . .
We have a stock AT&T FUZE here in the house, and as everyone knows its theme is gray, gray, and more gray - boring.
However -
When a text message or email comes in, the little bright orange notification circles that pop up on the sliders are quite noticeable and stick out like a sore thumb. Some may consider this ugly, but it IS functional.
Once the modding stops and life restarts, these are, after all phone / PDAs. And in a busy life full of varying light conditions, the boring AT&T themes seem more useful than many cooked ROMs. Their basic two toned themes make it easier and faster to interact with the phone while on the go. The alerts are not distracted by the multicolors all over the interface.
I really do not like the features, bloat, and outdated stock AT&T ROM for the FUZE. And I really appreciate the great ROMs here on XDA and prefer them.
I'm wondering if there are others like me out there and a chef willing to make a go at a simple two toned ROM with bold alerts?
Feedback?
NBP Pipsquack Bird said:
(If request threads are frowned upon, my apologies. Feel free to delete or move this thread.)
Are there others of you out there that would appreciate a ROM that is a phone / PDA first and lotsa colorful graphics left to a minimum?
Here's why I ask. I've recently been looking at the reviews of the new HTC PURE (AT&T.) Looking at its TF3D screens my first reaction was, "I dig the blue theme, but man those mono color sliders sure look boring! The ROMs at XDA sure have better graphics!"
That was, however - a short lived reaction. . . .
We have a stock AT&T FUZE here in the house, and as everyone knows its theme is gray, gray, and more gray - boring.
However -
When a text message or email comes in, the little bright orange notification circles that pop up on the sliders are quite noticeable and stick out like a sore thumb. Some may consider this ugly, but it IS functional.
Once the modding stops and life restarts, these are, after all phone / PDAs. And in a busy life full of varying light conditions, the boring AT&T themes seem more useful than many cooked ROMs. Their basic two toned themes make it easier and faster to interact with the phone while on the go. The alerts are not distracted by the multicolors all over the interface.
I really do not like the features, bloat, and outdated stock AT&T ROM for the FUZE. And I really appreciate the great ROMs here on XDA and prefer them.
I'm wondering if there are others like me out there and a chef willing to make a go at a simple two toned ROM with bold alerts?
Feedback?
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looking on the ROM page I see many stock like or simple ROMS. Have you tried any of those? To me the idea behind cooked ROMS is to be different from the ones who use stock ROMS. I personally during a day go from my car to my office to a warehouse to my car then out to lunch at many different places then back to my office and then home as well as stores and shopping and have not had an interaction issue with a single ROM I have tried. Furthermore all ROMS put a notification icon on the task bar as well when you have mail or messages. For me functionality has never been an issue. What I would like is a more personal way to ad or remove apps I never use such as all the multimedia and messaging crap.
Try Timolol's ROMs as bare and boring as they can be but with great speed.
And this topic is not worth a new thread.
Please be careful next time you start a new thread.
yeah i would use timolols if ur interested in a bare looking and yet functional rom.
I concur with more function over looks
It would be nice to see more roms that are naked or use UC to put in the programs you want or exclude those that you may not need.
I'll take a look at Timolol's
sa-10 has a good idea with choice through UC.
One thing I like with many ROMs is the choice to run with TF3D or Titanuim baked into the same ROM. I was just wondering if there would be much popular support for an option to run with a very basic theme.
I don't dispute Solarenemy68's expereinces day to day. But for me, I have become vision impaired. I didn't want to make this thread about me or a disability, so I thought I'd see if other folks would find a simple to see, functional ROM useful.
madnish30 said:
Try Timolol's ROMs as bare and boring as they can be but with great speed.
And this topic is not worth a new thread.
Please be careful next time you start a new thread.
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You wanna watch how you speak to people, who are you to decide what deserves a thread and what dosent
Quite an ironic response for someone with "Learn How to use XDA well.Love all.Respect all." in there sig lol
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You wanna watch how you speak to people, who are you to decide what deserves a thread and what dosent
Quite an ironic response for someone with "Learn How to use XDA well.Love all.Respect all." in there sig lol
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Watch how you speak ?! Read again and if you take offense to that your sissy nothing else.
Whats Ironic huh ?
Dude only if you had read the Rules in that link !
And Who am I to decide well, I'm a member of this community as much as you are !
Is anyone stopping you from posting something ?
Or you just go around flaming ?
The message about the thread was for the OP with respect okay ?
Not for you so stop sticking your leg in between.
P.S: if the OP got and problem with what i said he/she can please tell me. I meant no offense to the OP.
But strangers please stay out.
Peace.
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Watch how you speak ?! Read again and if you take offense to that your sissy nothing else.
Whats Ironic huh ?
Dude only if you had read the Rules in that link !
And Who am I to decide well, I'm a member of this community as much as you are !
Is anyone stopping you from posting something ?
Or you just go around flaming ?
The message about the thread was for the OP with respect okay ?
Not for you so stop sticking your leg in between.
P.S: if the OP got and problem with what i said he/she can please tell me. I meant no offense to the OP.
But strangers please stay out.
Peace.
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would it not be an idea to talk to an moderator instead of saying this things that can be dually explained ?
PS: maybe not the right timing but it would be a good idea to let chefs make a bare rom and just add the stuff through UC which one can download and unpack on a sd-card ?
I don't mind a MOD judging me as I was not Wrong !
I can't stand baseless acquisitions !
And will defend myself.
And UC on SD card would be good but then the ROM of one chef would not be different from anothers which would make things repatitive.
Plus UC will take so long to install so many apps and things.
People will have different demands and many demands for custom UC.
But maybe it could be tried by upcoming chefs.
Just PM'd two MODs Captain_throwback and the-equinoxe two look into the matter.
I will agree with whatever they will say.
No offense was taken.
Many times how I express myself in text is misunderstood as text doesn't allow for tone of voice, pauses, voice inflectoin etc.
So, Im not one to cast stones on this. No harm, no foul.
That said, I didn't post this thread to attract trouble or controversy.
I simply wished to make a request where chefs and patrons could take note and chime in if they like.
Yes, this was posted selfishly seekling a ROM a bit more user friendly to my disability. But before posting I tried to phrase things inclusively with the idea others might also like such a ROM for whatever reason.
Just a request, wondering if others feel they would benefit too.
No trouble intended.
NBP Pipsquack Bird said:
No offense was taken.
Many times how I express myself in text is misunderstood as text doesn't allow for tone of voice, pauses, voice inflectoin etc.
So, Im not one to cast stones on this. No harm, no foul.
That said, I didn't post this thread to attract trouble or controversy.
I simply wished to make a request where chefs and patrons could take note and chime in if they like.
Yes, this was posted selfishly seekling a ROM a bit more user friendly to my disability. But before posting I tried to phrase things inclusively with the idea others might also like such a ROM for whatever reason.
Just a request, wondering if others feel they would benefit too.
No trouble intended.
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glad to hear that.
you don't need to be sorry OP.
you are at no fault
glad to see you 2 get along now all of a sudden
donno what happend but it is gifted by the gods
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I was never against the OP !
This thread seems to be a fair request, imo.
That being said, it's always a good idea to look at the ROM threads before posting, to see which ROM meets your needs. If you don't see one, perhaps starting a thread like this gives the OP an opportunity to get people's opinions. This isn't one of those "which ROM is the best" threads, which serve no real purpose, as the answer to that question is quite subjective.
I'm glad to see that the disagreement has been worked out.
I'm also not one for "pretty over functional" ROMs, though don't get me wrong - I like pretty. But I also like having the latest features/ports working on my device (i.e. Manila 2.5).
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I'm actually close to (FINALLY) releasing my own ROM, which I'm *trying* to keep simple and functional (it's tough though, with so many goodies out there). My philosophy is to install as many apps as possible via CAB, rather than cooking in, which not only keeps the \Windows folder cleaner, but allows the end-user to uninstall anything they don't like or won't use. I actually created the placeholder for my ROM 2 months ago, and it's just now finally getting to the point of completion (several ports and hundreds of builds later). Maybe you'll want to check it out, in addition to the other suggestions offered here.
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Anyway, just make sure everyone keeps respecting each other here in the forum. We just here to help each other. No reason to scold anyone for starting a thread. If it shouldn't be here, the Mods will take care of it.
Yes, it would be great to have a basic ROM, all,ost all the other ones are overloaded with things most people don't need...
You then could upload a package with CABS so that people can install only the things they want.
It would be great indeed...
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This thread seems to be a fair request, imo.
That being said, it's always a good idea to look at the ROM threads before posting, to see which ROM meets your needs. If you don't see one, perhaps starting a thread like this gives the OP an opportunity to get people's opinions. This isn't one of those "which ROM is the best" threads, which serve no real purpose, as the answer to that question is quite subjective.
I'm glad to see that the disagreement has been worked out.
I'm also not one for "pretty over functional" ROMs, though don't get me wrong - I like pretty. But I also like having the latest features/ports working on my device (i.e. Manila 2.5).
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I'm actually close to (FINALLY) releasing my own ROM, which I'm *trying* to keep simple and functional (it's tough though, with so many goodies out there). My philosophy is to install as many apps as possible via CAB, rather than cooking in, which not only keeps the \Windows folder cleaner, but allows the end-user to uninstall anything they don't like or won't use. I actually created the placeholder for my ROM 2 months ago, and it's just now finally getting to the point of completion (several ports and hundreds of builds later). Maybe you'll want to check it out, in addition to the other suggestions offered here.
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Anyway, just make sure everyone keeps respecting each other here in the forum. We just here to help each other. No reason to scold anyone for starting a thread. If it shouldn't be here, the Mods will take care of it.
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Appreciate that you had a look here.
And wasn't scolding was just expressing what i felt.
And i think i can do that
Yeah solved OP got no problem i got no problem.
But Captain i heard that once apps are cooked in ROMs they perform better rather than when installed ?
Could you explain that ?
madnish30 said:
But Captain i heard that once apps are cooked in ROMs they perform better rather than when installed ?
Could you explain that ?
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It all depends. If you're talking about an app that is located in \program files, it doesn't matter at all how it got there. Apps that appear in rom (in the \windows folder) can work much better when cooked in (voice command comes to mind).
I would love to have a clean ROM. I have acculmulated most of the Software that I won't already in CABs. I have found a lot of really nice ROMs out there but say in 1 I don't like this feature, or in another, I don't like that. I wouldn't mind having just a ROM cooked WinMo 6.5.#, a good radio with only Titanium setup to work with my Fuze on ATT and I can probley do the rest. I don't generally run Manila and the only HTC specific programs i really like are the HTCcalculator and the HTC Comm Manager.
I just saw that people are arguing on different rom threads and saying oh yours is better since you made this first but I tweaked it. (I mean no disrepect in that comment.)
Point being here is a interesting thing I thought of just to see what anyone else thought of. We have four main froyo roms Tazz, Kaos, Sheds and Conaps.
If people are fighting over whos to choose I was thinking maybe the four of them should make a combined rom since everything they use to build them is a combined effort anyway. I just personally think it would be interesting to see what they all would contribute and it would be the best rom all around due to it has everyones input. Its nice how they all are unique by themselves but it would be awesome to have them all mashed together if that makes sense. It would be fast, stable, and could probably even be updated more due to whomever had more time would be able to work on it.
I am not posting this to make people mad or to say one rom is better than the other I just think it would be rather neat to have one huge awesome rom to choose from. I know it would probably never happen but its a interesting thought.
I do not mean any disrespect or harm in this post either. I just figured maybe it would cause less arguments.
I just wanted to share an idea I had. What do you all think? Negative or positive.
sounds cool they all do seem to work together enough, lending each other things and being really quite friendly to each other on their posts. to have them together on a test ROM would be cool but i think they all have their individual ideas that keep them just different enough to make everyone happy no matter what their style i'm using Nonsensikal 16.1 now but i'm about to switch to Tazz... i'm not sure Vanilla or Gingerbread... overall though lol yeah i think that would be a great idea!! sorry i rant >< xD!
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I just wanted to share an idea I had. What do you all think? Negative or positive.
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Having things in public view surely makes "who did what first" a non-argument - because one merely needs to look at the commits to find out who did what when.
As a reminder, devs who work on AOSP ROMs are under a GPL obligation to release their sources.
Without a doubt though, asking that cooks/devs publicly document their trickery increases their workload (in addition to build & test, add some "documentation" tasks) - so, the trade off might be better documentation - but fewer ROM updates per developer.
It is possible that having more information available about methods which are Eris hardware specific might encourage more people to participate in ROM "porting" activities, e.g. hacking of backlights, notification delivery, gps/sensor, and "pre-built" library requirements.
It is my impression that devs have shared some of this informally in private communications/IRC, but you would be hard-pressed to find explanations or mini-tutorials on most of these topics here on XDA (Eris) forums. That makes it more challenging for any would-be "ROM porting developer" - because they must re-invent those same wheels from scratch, or go begging to devs that have worked through those issues before. The latter certainly won't happen if they view the devs as combative or secretive.
I would suggest that if you can gain any traction with the devs on this, the baseline ROM should be AOSP - that way the GPL disclosure requirements align well with the benefit of making information readily available. (Perhaps never in the form of tutorials, but at least in the form of public source code).
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Its nice how they all are unique by themselves but it would be awesome to have them all mashed together if that makes sense.
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Well a lot of people don't like Sense UI so... But I think it could be a good idea. It's just hard to have to download the latest and greatest version anytime a dev wants to make a change, and two could never change it at the same time unless they were like teamviewing or something.
Yes it is hard having to switch versions everytime they make improvements & I didnt mean the sense ui. I meant i hoped the sentence made sense. Meaning all the newer froyo non sense roms rolled into one. Sorry for any confusion.
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I think Tenzo and Tazz have slowed down some of their development until they can get some common problems worked out.